TDG: Cody's Top Ten Fantastical Wargames!

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  • @nemisysone
    @nemisysone 4 роки тому +1

    Found it!!! Battlelore is one of my favorite things to play! Now I also have to add Conquest of Nerath, Leviathan, Battle of the Five Armies, Axis and Allies and Zombies, Talon, and Star Wars Armada to my "potential purchase" games list! Thanks for showing me all these great games! Will watch your War Room review next...

  • @mikolajwitkowski8093
    @mikolajwitkowski8093 4 роки тому +6

    I loved the list, I was incredibly surprised when I heard your number one, as I bought this game yesterday :) Also, thanks a lot for the film recommendation, I missed it and it looks very interesting :)

  • @1313qwertyqwerty
    @1313qwertyqwerty 4 роки тому +5

    Great job Cody! I hope you dive into War of the Ring soon. The new expansion for the second edition will come out soon, War of the Ring: Kings of Middle Earth.

  • @didelphidae5228
    @didelphidae5228 Рік тому +1

    A fantastical Axis & Allies sounds awesome, I'm keeping it on my radar.

  • @befirmbefair6674
    @befirmbefair6674 3 роки тому +1

    Odd list when you combine Sci Fi and Fantasy. Still fun to hear your take on games that I've never played.

  • @JohnSmith-pu3pm
    @JohnSmith-pu3pm 2 роки тому +1

    Great list. Plenty of more games for me to buy. Just picked up Axis & Allies & Zombies.

  • @merasmussen82
    @merasmussen82 4 роки тому +3

    I'm a simple guy. I see a video from TDG, I hit that like button. I dunno, I guess "I get a kick out of it".

  • @misomiso8228
    @misomiso8228 3 роки тому +2

    8:31 i too love Armada. I think it's really really good and underrated, and I love the 'shoot first, move second' as that's so different to normal wargames.
    Plus the capital ships v Fighters is f antastic!

  • @BananenBrot484
    @BananenBrot484 4 роки тому +1

    Please more Videos like this! Greetings from Germany!

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      Danke. Videos like this take a lot of time, so I don't make them too often, but there will be more. Where in Germany are you from? I attended the Free University in Berlin years ago.

    • @BananenBrot484
      @BananenBrot484 4 роки тому +1

      The Discriminating Gamer Wunderbar! I am from a small town called Leverkusen. It is right next to cologne. Sadly I Never have been in Berlin before.

  • @martyrking2288
    @martyrking2288 4 роки тому +8

    Was waiting for Forbidden Stars, but it only got an honorable mention in the background.

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому +1

      I need to play that one again.

    • @tabletopcloset8992
      @tabletopcloset8992 4 роки тому +1

      @Babes & Board Games You really think so? I feel that Forbidden Stars is relatively straightforward and elegant, considering the type of game. Combat can be a bit slow but found it quite lean otherwise. Never played Starcraft but have actually heard it being described as a bit bloated and fiddly. Definitely a cool IP though.

    • @tabletopcloset8992
      @tabletopcloset8992 4 роки тому +1

      @Babes & Board Games Ah, I thought there was a fair bit of difference between the two in terms of the orders and technologies so didn't realise they were so similar. It is a real shame that FFG lost the licence and that the expansion had to be canned. However I think FB is still an excellent game in its own right. The factions are all very varied but still very well-balanced. In terms of the planned expansion I'd love access to new factions, but would be against adding more players. I wouldn't ever want to play over 4 due to excessive downtime. In fact I think 3 is the ideal player count. Maybe it's different for StarCraft though.

    • @dustinboatman6134
      @dustinboatman6134 4 роки тому +3

      @@tabletopcloset8992 The game isn't incomplete at all, that's silly. It just doesn't play up to six. No need to play with that number of players anyway. FS is an amazing game, and one of the best ever.

    • @mikejonesnoreally
      @mikejonesnoreally 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheDiscriminatingGamer If you don't get to play it much, that's probably why it didn't make it. :) It's still heresy though. xD

  • @femmedracula6857
    @femmedracula6857 4 роки тому +1

    I love Jim Krohn's Talon designer notes regarding realistic space combat mechanics and how he can just blow them off and do what he wants.

  • @richhutnik2477
    @richhutnik2477 Рік тому +1

    Mom, Cody is playing with monsters again!

  • @jasenlakic5033
    @jasenlakic5033 4 роки тому +1

    Have Forbidden Stars but didn't have a chance to play yet, will try to make it happen this week :)

  • @newworld75
    @newworld75 4 роки тому +1

    I love Conquest of Nerath. A couple of house rules we use: (1) You can have unlimited numbers of footmen, but the other units are “locked” to the number that comes with the game. (2) You can take footmen into dungeons with the heroes.

  • @jeremyfrost3127
    @jeremyfrost3127 4 роки тому +1

    Cthulhu Wars is my #1 game of all time. Gets better with every play.

  • @ItsJustJerFromJersey
    @ItsJustJerFromJersey 4 роки тому +1

    completely agree with your take on Dr. Sleep (unless you are being sarcastic). Saw it in a good theater with amazing sound (heartbeats). Thought the end was a little cheesy but i went in not expecting it to have the Kubrickian slow tormenting feel that I love. having separated it from the shining and judging it on its own i loved it!

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      I really did enjoy it quite a bit. Kubrick is my favorite filmmaker, so I was skeptical that this would be good. It blew me away. Best SK adaptation since The Shining, IMO.

    • @ItsJustJerFromJersey
      @ItsJustJerFromJersey 4 роки тому +1

      The Discriminating Gamer yep never been better than Kubrick, Lyndon is rediculous. Most sk adapts are cheesier than chuck e. IT was a train wreck. Talk about the wrong director.

  • @drunkengamer1153
    @drunkengamer1153 4 роки тому +1

    Conquest of Nerath doesn't get enough love. I bought it years ago on a whim as my FLGS had stacks of them overstocked and on sale at massive discount. Was not disappointed in the least.

  • @gcn9
    @gcn9 4 роки тому +1

    Good list Cody. Battle of the Five Armies - I WANT! It needs an affordable reprint.

  • @henryrodriguez6260
    @henryrodriguez6260 4 роки тому +2

    You opinions, which generally track mine, have made me look at a few games I had not considered. Thanks!

  • @joerobert7847
    @joerobert7847 4 роки тому +2

    Man if we lived close I would be down for War Room more often than not.

  • @Isrephael1
    @Isrephael1 4 роки тому +1

    Great list. Have you played Battletech? One of the venerable sci-fi game systems that has stood the test of time, and it as simple (big, stompy mechs) or as complicated (BSM plus infantry, tanks, hovercraft, ships, aircraft, orbital craft, and tons of environmental rules, which can all be added modularly as you wish). Great stuff.

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      I haven't. Heard good things, though.

    • @Isrephael1
      @Isrephael1 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheDiscriminatingGamer It is experiencing a bit of a resurgence currently. They have a great new starter box out (Battletech: A Game of Armored Combat) which might be worth a review. There is also a Kickstarter wrapping up which will see a tremendous amount of new material and great new sculpts of Mechs in a staggered release over the next year or two. I've watched everything you've done, and it seems right up your alley.

  • @charleslatora5750
    @charleslatora5750 4 роки тому +1

    Cthulhu Wars has been on my radar since I got back into gaming year-and-a-half ago when I retired. Been adding lots of games to my collection mostly Avalon Hill games that I never got decades ago.
    Been picking up a few that I sold when I needed money. I have not bought too many brand new war games. Maybe 6 or 7. Mostly Compass Games n a couple of GMT.
    But mostly I have war games of one type or another. I have picked up wingspan, A.&A.& Zombies, forbidden island and horrified. "Man cannot only live by PZKW IV's." there's a couple on your list then I'm going to have to add to my I think I want list, so Thank You. And if I may input a game, I really like A.H. Amoeba Wars. And as always thank you thank you thank you.

  • @johnpanagos5835
    @johnpanagos5835 4 роки тому +1

    great list, i love it!

  • @keithr9640
    @keithr9640 4 роки тому +1

    Playing Chthulu Wars tonight! A couple on your list I've not even heard of so looking forward to hunting them down.

  • @IronSalamander8
    @IronSalamander8 4 роки тому +1

    Space Empires the board game is based on the 4X series of computer games and specifically Space Empires 4, as the art is the same for ships and such. I love Space Empires 4 Gold, I've had it for years.

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому +1

      I haven't played the video game, but I loves me the board game.

    • @IronSalamander8
      @IronSalamander8 4 роки тому +1

      There are similarities of course beyond the art but the PC game is much too complex for a1:1 translation to a board game. It would take forever and the PC game already tends to be super long! I only played the board game once and it didn't take all that long to complete.

  • @conmchugh6691
    @conmchugh6691 4 роки тому +1

    Great selection Cody 👍.The last time I played Conquest of Nerath was the year it came out.😳. Might be time to take it off the shelf for another go.😉

  • @inttruders
    @inttruders 4 роки тому +1

    I own 9 of these. These are some excellent choices.

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      Thank you, sir. Which one was the odd man out?

    • @inttruders
      @inttruders 4 роки тому

      Imperial Stars ll. Mostly because I own Space Empires already.

  • @nathanjs55
    @nathanjs55 4 роки тому +2

    Hey Cody! You wrote for Deseret News? Are you from SLC? If so, howdy from Lehi.

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I was in Midvale until a few years ago when I moved to Texas.

    • @nathanjs55
      @nathanjs55 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheDiscriminatingGamer Right on. I'm a native Arizonian. Don't know why I'm in Utah - so cold!

  • @douglaspearson1647
    @douglaspearson1647 4 роки тому +1

    Wow I have not played any of these but would really like to. Almost bought your #1. Wish I had. Among other issues I have I like more games than I dislike, so I could never be a reviewer. My list 1) Mage Knight, 2) Earth Reborn (Scenario Auto Generating System & a ton of terrain tiles so the make your own scenairios make you own scenarios are uninitiated), 3) Warhammer 40k: Forbidden Stars ( Only Problem is the due to split of companies no expansions for other factions but still a good game with what is there), 4) Warhammer 40k: Horus Heresy (GMT this game is a Blast), 5) Level 7 (Omega Protocol) (Really unique Mechanic of what you due or don't determines what the Aliens can do) 5) Sky Galleons of Mars ( Love this game which is Wooden Ships & Iron Men set in on Mars in 1889 with Space Ship combat. Love the Theme straight out if Jules Verne). 6) Warhammer 40k: Conquest (GMT LCG love this game I think there are 9 factions that all play differently). 7) Core Worlds, 8) Star Fleet Battles), Battle Tech, 9) Golem Arcana (Like this game becasue it was unique using an App and beautifully painted minis) 10) Summoner Wars Master Set). I know I will get heat for this but I have a few Beer & Pretzel Guilty Pleasure honorable mentions. 1) Battle Beyond Space (A shoot'em up and I have a blast playing it), 2) Battue ( Ever time you play the board can be different. Another game I have a Blast playing), 3) Godzilla: Kaiju World Wars (This game I like due to the fact I loved Godzilla as a Kid. I like the painted minis, the 3d Buildings that once destroyed filp 1 over and its rubble, I like were 2 players have combat by showing defense & offensive cards lining them up for a result unique and you can Nuke the City). I do not want to recommend any of my games people have different taste and a lot of my games have poor reviews. But I enjoy them what can I say.

  • @misterman99
    @misterman99 4 роки тому +1

    Cthulhu Wars is really a super fun game! I love its length too since it makes it realistic to be able to actually try all the factions plus any number of expansions. TI4 is probably still my favorite game but I will also age around 10 years before I get enough sessions in with all my other games to try all the factions haha.

  • @lokihve6591
    @lokihve6591 4 роки тому +1

    Few notes
    1. Hannibal & Hammilcar is not on your list, you prefer Battlore 2nd edition for instance?
    2. Have you played Memoir 44 overlord scenario?
    3. Have you played Axis and Allies Anniversary Edition?
    4. Have you played Sekigahara, Hammer of the Scots....?
    5. Have you played Maria?
    6. Have you played any of the Coin series and if so which?
    Thanks in advance for answers :)

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому +1

      Hannibal and Hamiclar is an historical wargame. I have not played Overlord. I have played A&A Anniversary, and reviewed it. I have played both Sekigahara and Hammer of the Scots (again, historical games). I have not played Maria, though I do own it. I have not played any of the COIN games. You can check out my historical wargames list here: ua-cam.com/video/9P0VavV_YSA/v-deo.html

    • @nmorlino
      @nmorlino 4 роки тому +1

      The Discriminating Gamer I think he was being funny...:)

    • @lokihve6591
      @lokihve6591 4 роки тому

      @@nmorlino actually i have to admit i just saw top 10 war games in the title and that is that

  • @bobdole8830
    @bobdole8830 4 роки тому +8

    I liked how you misspelled Rising Sun and Chaos in the old World for your first two picks! Oh, silly you!

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому +1

      Ha!

    • @henryrodriguez6260
      @henryrodriguez6260 4 роки тому +4

      Brilliant! I must agree, Chaos in the Old World was the first and best in this family of games (i.e. Cthulhu Wars, Blood Rage, Rising Sun)

    • @bobdole8830
      @bobdole8830 4 роки тому +1

      @@henryrodriguez6260 absolutely

    • @ProfOfHifi
      @ProfOfHifi 4 роки тому

      Somehow area control games dont feel like a war games to me. Maybe i have got so used to tactical miniatures games that area control games dont feel so immersive from the war side.

    • @henryrodriguez6260
      @henryrodriguez6260 4 роки тому

      @@ProfOfHifi Recall wargames cover a range of scales, from tactical to operational and strategic. Tactical wargames are but one subset. Area Control games share some similarities to strategic-level wargames. These appeal to me, in part because of my love for strategic level wargames.

  • @dandechino2
    @dandechino2 3 роки тому +1

    Conquest of Nerath looks sweet

  • @AchanhiArusa
    @AchanhiArusa 4 роки тому +1

    Going to go play Armada this weekend for the third time with my flying Potato and the Profundity. And I will agree, I do have problems turtling in games and so I lost badly at Cthulhu Wars.

  • @ProfOfHifi
    @ProfOfHifi 4 роки тому +1

    There was a time Battlelore second edition was my only fantastical tactical miniatures game. I didnt like how little it got support from FFG and i felt they went on wrong direcgion with the few expansions the game got. So i sold Battlelore 2nd edition. I then backed from Kickstarter 3 games: Mythic Battles: Pantheon, The Edge: Dawnfall and Godtear. Nowadays i have a lot more this type of games. I love them even if the large two player games are difficult for me to get on the table.
    So i have to give a credit to Battlelore 2nd edition which started that type of game for me.

  • @crepusculo1027
    @crepusculo1027 4 роки тому +1

    What about a review of Conquest of Nerath? :-)

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      That's one I've been wanting to do for a long time. I keep telling myself, "one day".

  • @LeeroyPorkins
    @LeeroyPorkins 4 роки тому +1

    My dad loves King of the TableTop.
    Mine:
    1. Conquest of Nerath
    2. Axis and Allies and Zombies
    3. Blood Rage (?)
    4. Fortress America
    5. Heroes of Land Air and Sea (?)
    6. Battle Beyond Space
    7. Starship Samurai
    8. Cyclades (?)
    9. Galactic Warlords

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому +1

      I don't think I'd classify Starship Samurai, Blood Rage, or Battle Beyond Space as wargames. I realize its a fine line, and we may all have our own criteria, but they feel more Euro-y to me.

    • @LeeroyPorkins
      @LeeroyPorkins 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheDiscriminatingGamer 👍 Battle Beyond Space is actually like checkers with programmable movement.

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому +1

      @@LeeroyPorkins I've played it.

    • @LeeroyPorkins
      @LeeroyPorkins 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheDiscriminatingGamer 👍 What about Indagar?😉

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому +1

      @@LeeroyPorkins Ha!

  • @Falkdr
    @Falkdr 4 роки тому +1

    I really like Imperial Stars II and with the expansion you have a tiny two player 4X game.

  • @dhmcarver
    @dhmcarver 4 роки тому +1

    Another great list - was really interested in your choices (and asides, like Armada vs. X-Wing). It pains me that Conquest of Nerath, Cthulhu Wars, and Battle of the Five Armies are all available only if you have an arm and a leg to spare. I also loved your term “fantastical” for this list - and was smirking at all of the grumbling I saw about terminology in the comments. I never understand why gamers get so hung up on semantics.

  • @douglaspearson1647
    @douglaspearson1647 4 роки тому +1

    BTW do you have any Beer & Pretzel or Guilty Pleasure games? By guilty pleasure game I mean something very few people like but you do.

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      Can't think of one off the top of my head.

    • @douglaspearson1647
      @douglaspearson1647 4 роки тому +1

      Hey that's pretty good when your group likes the same games it makes things easy. It saves on a lot of moaning & groaning not to mention whining.

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      @@douglaspearson1647 Indeed.

  • @shy_gamer
    @shy_gamer 4 роки тому +1

    I like the song Sin at the end of the video but cannot find the song on iTunes. There is only one album by Rev Mayhem that I see and Sin is not on it. Does anyone know how I can get that song?

    • @Shawnpzum77
      @Shawnpzum77 4 роки тому +1

      This is SHAWN ZUMBRUNNEN I wrote that song you can private message me on Facebook and I’ll shoot a copy to you

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      @@Shawnpzum77 THE SHAWN ZUMBRUNNEN???

  • @jwspiker
    @jwspiker 4 роки тому +3

    have you played Glorantha: the gods war?

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      I have not. Good?

    • @jwspiker
      @jwspiker 4 роки тому +3

      @@TheDiscriminatingGamer supposed to be like chtulu wars but different feel as to how it plays out

  • @daveyjones5702
    @daveyjones5702 4 роки тому +1

    dude leviathans is coming back :D

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      Excellent!

    • @daveyjones5702
      @daveyjones5702 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheDiscriminatingGamer i know right?! i missed out the first time around and have been hoping they would do it ever since.
      finally the time has come :D

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      @@daveyjones5702 Do you have a link?

    • @daveyjones5702
      @daveyjones5702 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheDiscriminatingGamer boardgamegeek.com/thread/2246257/coming-kickstarter-2020

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      @@daveyjones5702 Fantastic!

  • @MrPicklerwoof
    @MrPicklerwoof 4 роки тому +1

    War of the Ring beats all of them!! But a nice list nonetheless.

  • @tyrussleightholme7261
    @tyrussleightholme7261 4 роки тому +1

    Curious as to why you are including sci-fi picks in a "fantastical wargames" list. I consider there to be a distinctive difference in what is fantasy vs. Sci-fi

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому +1

      It's "Fantastical" which I use as a catch all for anything that is not "Historical."

  • @RicksPoker
    @RicksPoker 4 роки тому +1

    Have you tried, "Eclipse"? My favorite 4X space conquest game.
    Warm regards, Rick.

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      Rick Smith I have. I really enjoy it, but I don’t consider it a wargame. It’s far too Euro, but has elements of Ameritrash.

  • @redblackmonkey
    @redblackmonkey 4 роки тому +1

    So, the best all time fantastical wargame will be the Nerathian War Room of Conquest?...

  • @Tombonzo
    @Tombonzo 4 роки тому +2

    Couple of things....
    1. I Love the Shining! For those who get the movie, it’s one of the best!!
    2. Conquest of Narrath. Always wanted this, but no o e to really play with. Wish it was Solo.
    3. Got me interested in Cthulhu Wars!
    4. I was NOT disturbed while watching the vid 😜

  • @benitoc4332
    @benitoc4332 4 роки тому +2

    Battletech???

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      What is, a game I have never played? I'll take Obscure Movie Quotes for $400, Alex.

    • @benitoc4332
      @benitoc4332 4 роки тому +1

      Do you have an aversion toBT, or just by chance haven't given it a go in the past 35years? Alpha Strike is a fun ,streamlined flavor.
      Thanks for all the great reviews and suggestions Cody!

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      @@benitoc4332 Just haven't had a chance to play it.

  • @marcbennett9232
    @marcbennett9232 4 роки тому +2

    no love for star trek ascendancy? you had such high praise for it.

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому +1

      Again, I see ST Ascendancy as a civ building game rather than a war game. I do love it very much. See my Top Ten Civ Building video: ua-cam.com/video/xOFaW75irIE/v-deo.html

    • @marcbennett9232
      @marcbennett9232 4 роки тому +1

      Thsts funny i find the civ aspect of ascendancy weak. I find it more od a diplomatic game more than anything else. With combat secondary

  • @FredAlleanKabaret
    @FredAlleanKabaret 4 роки тому +1

    A very democratic list. Thanks for the video!

  • @dustinboatman6134
    @dustinboatman6134 4 роки тому +1

    Cthulhu Wars was so weak to me. I love the theme, as I have read all of Lovecraft's work, so I really wanted to play it. This is also my favorite genre of board game, so I was hyped. What a let down. The combat is boring. You spend the whole game just running away because there aren't enough hits on the dice. Build up armies, both roll tons of dice......to have one army just move to the next area. Silly. Chaos in the Old World(#1), Forbidden Stars, War of the Ring, The Battle of Five Armies, Assault of the Giants, Blood Rage, Cyclades, Kemet, and Cry Havoc are all way better games than CW.

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      Agree to disagree.

    • @dustinboatman6134
      @dustinboatman6134 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheDiscriminatingGamer Definitely. There are things I liked about it, just the combat felt very anticlimactic and an afterthought. I love asymmetrical powers, but a few of the other games I listed do that and have way cooler combat systems.

  • @davedogge2280
    @davedogge2280 4 роки тому

    Pair Of Geeks has a good house rules video for Conquest of Nerath ua-cam.com/video/orvTjfhnj9Q/v-deo.html to make the game more fun / balanced

  • @bergsteiger09
    @bergsteiger09 4 роки тому +1

    You said it you ever design a war game...why don't you?

    • @TheDiscriminatingGamer
      @TheDiscriminatingGamer  4 роки тому

      I've got some ideas! I'm actually working with Academy Games right now on a game, but it is a negotiation game. Maybe once that's up and running I can look at other projects.

    • @bergsteiger09
      @bergsteiger09 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheDiscriminatingGamer Holler if you get anything going on kickstarter. I like your take on games. Would be interested to see what you come up with.

  • @tyrussleightholme7261
    @tyrussleightholme7261 4 роки тому +1

    TI 4 is also not fantastical it is science fiction

  • @bivibuddydan
    @bivibuddydan 4 роки тому

    "UM, ER, You know, just kind of,......, an,an,an," = can't be bothered to reherse or edit or do it right.