Major props to Zeke for the maturity and for reconciling with Magic and Karl Malone. As far as MJ, I always loved both MJ and Zeke as players but Zeke is definitely the more mature person today.
shawn seawood What this shows me is Zeke cleared the air with Magic and the Mailman, the only reason he hasn’t cleared the air with mike must be because Mike isn’t willing to. If Mike is still harboring ill feeling towards Barkley, his suppose to be friend, there’s no way he’s having a sit down with Zeke
I love Zeke I’m from Detroit but I gotta say he’s like a politician lol I mean like he has a perfect explanation for every scenario and every situation to make it seem like him and or the pistons have been done wrong Zeke will never say it publicly but he honestly believes he was the best or damn near on the same level as mike, bird, magic and he feels left out because his name never comes up when discussing those 3 when in reality he and the pistons were the 4th best team of that 80s-90s era
You are a mind reader then. Is easier to take a guy by his acts and to see if those acts back up his words. And what he says and does... pretty much coincide.
Zeke was a nice guy placed on a hard-ass team. If he was spinning tales there would be alot of stories out there but he gets full respect from his peers and those that came after him. Ofcourse you always take a man's word with a grain of salt. But his work and his word are usually not far apart.
@@kaydee1485 a nice guy perhaps off the court. As Robert Parish said," I love Zeke but he started all that stuff." I say it was more than happy to let Rodman and lamb deer be seen as the bad guys. The fact is he was a cheap-shot artist himself and got a lot of stuff started. And wanted no responsibly for it. At least Bill and Dennis more or less owned up to it.
I love how Michael JORDAN just stays out of it all. He doesn't need to make up or apologize to Isiah Thomas if he doesn't feel he needs to or have anything to apologize for. It's ok if folks don't like one another. Happens every day in life. JORDAN said what he said during the last dance and clearly has gone on with his life. Has a new film dropping, nascar team, and potentially about to sell his majority stake in the Hornets for billions compared to what he paid. After he does that I doubt if we ever see or hear from him again. Kudos to him for ignoring all this talk and continuing on with his life. I'd do the same thing.
Whilst that is definitely very respectable because everyone has the right to stand on their principles, it's been 30 years MJ. Let it go. They could easily be homies again but to Jordan, it's all personal.
I just think JORDAN has gone on with his life. The its "personal" thing I believe is overblown because none of us really know what truly happened between him and Isiah. I'm glad he's not talking and has apparently moved on in his life. I'd rather that then having him fake an apology or something. Sometimes it's best to fallback and remain silent like he has. Many people could and should learn to do that out here this day and age.
Jordan doesn’t have to speak on it anymore because he’s one of the most famous athletes ever, he’s smart and savvy enough to throw out his opinions/issues then use the media and his worshipper like fans to defend him, just as he did in ‘91 calling the Pistons “undeserving champions” … MJ seemingly ‘living his life’ while Zeke constantly gets asked questions about their “feud” only exists because MJ takes a passive aggressive approach to the situation, he always has. MJ won’t ever ‘let it go’ but makes it seem as if Isiah is the antagonizer
@@TommyGibbs1 They both living they life. Jordan rarely do interviews. Zeke said jordan tried to apologize behind the scenes lol. He called the pistons undeserving champions. But the pistons dominated them when they played in the playoffs.
Nobody really knows if JORDAN apologized to him behind the scenes or not. That's only what Isiah said but who really knows. JORDAN to me has never been passive aggressive. He said what he said and moves on. He never does interviews so how is that passive aggressive. Nonetheless Isiah could also stop answering questions about him if he chooses. It's not like he's forced to do that. JORDAN has moved on. I wish Isiah would do that also. Nobody said you have to like one another. Again it happens every day in life. There are people you rock with and people you don't. Plain and simple
Isiah Thomas is so full of it!!! He is acting like he was a sweet Angel in the NBA. Im older enough to know and remember all the things he did. I lost a little respect for Matt and Stephen for letting him get away with all these lies without questioning him on some of his antics.
@@kaydee1485 i think maybe its just that as the leader of the bad boys he would tell laimbeer and rodman to "put people on their ass" and then laugh when they did. even if they got injured .then again he is much older now and not the same person.
Bro it's not hard to find out. Karl Malone elbowed him so bad he needed stitches. He and Magic clashed hard in the finals, which fractured they already existing friendship. Zeke could separate life and basketball, Magic couldn't and their teams didn't want them to be friends to begin with. With Mike, the Pistons where a physical team, and didnt shake hands with the Bull when the Bulls won. Mike had alot of choice words for them in the media including calling the Pistons 'undeserving winners', from the Pistons' side they did the same thing the Celtics did to them, they didn't see the need to congratulate their opponents.
@@kaydee1485 Malone retaliated for how they fouled his teammate..sorry buddy you wrong..MJ had choice words after two years of them trying to hurt him..you lying again..and Isiah and Magic fell out cuz Isiah called him gay after he contracted aids..move along you wrong and Isiah looked for MJ after the buzzer when they beat him but want man enough to walk by with his chest out he cowered like a b(&@
Thats a Kingdom principle or law: Forgive someone so you can be Forgiven👑 For IF you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Luke 6:37 In the Kingdom constitution 👑
This man is a con. Are we supposed to respect the dirty fouls we witnessed? The man could play BUT he was the leader of the Jordan Rules. I’m sure he’s tired of people calling him out. Hence to him now playing the victim and now “can’t we all just get along” CHARADE.
If he has made amends with folk, that's great, but why is he telling us about it? Why does he think that we need to know? He's made-up with Magic but why was there a falling out? I'm also wondering, is he still laying the blame at MJ*s doorstep for his exclusion from the Dreamteam? Isiah is not someone who you should take at his word. He twists things, and will misrepresent things and make stuff up. He does it ever so subtly as to give himself "an out" should the truth be discovered. Isiah is disingenuous at best, and a very cunning manipulator and liar at worst. No matter which, he will always present himself as the victim. This man is not to be believed or trusted.
All those reasons have all been brought up already my guy. Jordan was the one who got him excluded. There is a recording of Jordan saying if Isiah on the Dream Team I won't play. Isiah is not a victim in anyway. It was just basketball too him. It's everybody else that took it personal. They kept them lingering feelings off the court where they should have stayed.
Real talk from a legend about other legends. Letting that shit go is maturity and the best for a healthy person.
Major props to Zeke for the maturity and for reconciling with Magic and Karl Malone. As far as MJ, I always loved both MJ and Zeke as players but Zeke is definitely the more mature person today.
Zeke and MJ should have a major sit down talk. Like Zeke and Magic did.
shawn seawood
What this shows me is Zeke cleared the air with Magic and the Mailman, the only reason he hasn’t cleared the air with mike must be because Mike isn’t willing to. If Mike is still harboring ill feeling towards Barkley, his suppose to be friend, there’s no way he’s having a sit down with Zeke
How is Zeke more mature when Zeke is demanding a public apology, the bigger man would just let it go
Zeke is the one who started it but wants a apology
@@ssj-rose4572absolutely untrue
I like the Kenyon Martin reference 😂😂
Fake tough guy K-mart
@@bitcoinethereum9702 he’d beat your ass
2:10 Lmaoooo we all grown but somebody gotta pause that
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obviously you not grown
@@minkim4517 Shutupppppppp
You gotta grow up bruh lol. You don't embrace people?
Marin you the best for that vengeance doesn't have a time limit
Healing is everything
Stephen Jackson nose be on FLEEK!!! Even on a far camera angle that thang look like it's bout to pop off the screen 😂😂
😂😂😂Kenyon got Karl for what he did to Zeak
Yup Kmart good wit me forever for that clothesline he put on the Mailman
I love Zeke I’m from Detroit but I gotta say he’s like a politician lol I mean like he has a perfect explanation for every scenario and every situation to make it seem like him and or the pistons have been done wrong Zeke will never say it publicly but he honestly believes he was the best or damn near on the same level as mike, bird, magic and he feels left out because his name never comes up when discussing those 3 when in reality he and the pistons were the 4th best team of that 80s-90s era
You are a mind reader then. Is easier to take a guy by his acts and to see if those acts back up his words. And what he says and does... pretty much coincide.
I remember when the late Chuck Dailey, said: if Zeke was 4 inches taller. He would have been better than Jordan ( crying ass ) hands 👐 down !!!
Zeke was a nice guy placed on a hard-ass team. If he was spinning tales there would be alot of stories out there but he gets full respect from his peers and those that came after him. Ofcourse you always take a man's word with a grain of salt. But his work and his word are usually not far apart.
@@kaydee1485 a nice guy perhaps off the court. As Robert Parish said," I love Zeke but he started all that stuff."
I say it was more than happy to let Rodman and lamb deer be seen as the bad guys. The fact is he was a cheap-shot artist himself and got a lot of stuff started.
And wanted no responsibly for it. At least Bill and Dennis more or less owned up to it.
How come no other Black Men in the NBA kissed, other than Isiah & Magic & yet the irony is, both of their Sons came out 💅🏾flimsy?
That's better than being a friend of a pedo which is exactly what Malone is.......AN F'ing PEDO!
I suspect those 2 were in a relationship.
Exactly
Hugging is cool but to kiss on the lips is gay him and magic most definitely probably DL
I love how Michael JORDAN just stays out of it all. He doesn't need to make up or apologize to Isiah Thomas if he doesn't feel he needs to or have anything to apologize for. It's ok if folks don't like one another. Happens every day in life. JORDAN said what he said during the last dance and clearly has gone on with his life. Has a new film dropping, nascar team, and potentially about to sell his majority stake in the Hornets for billions compared to what he paid. After he does that I doubt if we ever see or hear from him again. Kudos to him for ignoring all this talk and continuing on with his life. I'd do the same thing.
Whilst that is definitely very respectable because everyone has the right to stand on their principles, it's been 30 years MJ. Let it go. They could easily be homies again but to Jordan, it's all personal.
I just think JORDAN has gone on with his life. The its "personal" thing I believe is overblown because none of us really know what truly happened between him and Isiah. I'm glad he's not talking and has apparently moved on in his life. I'd rather that then having him fake an apology or something. Sometimes it's best to fallback and remain silent like he has. Many people could and should learn to do that out here this day and age.
Jordan doesn’t have to speak on it anymore because he’s one of the most famous athletes ever, he’s smart and savvy enough to throw out his opinions/issues then use the media and his worshipper like fans to defend him, just as he did in ‘91 calling the Pistons “undeserving champions” … MJ seemingly ‘living his life’ while Zeke constantly gets asked questions about their “feud” only exists because MJ takes a passive aggressive approach to the situation, he always has. MJ won’t ever ‘let it go’ but makes it seem as if Isiah is the antagonizer
@@TommyGibbs1 They both living they life. Jordan rarely do interviews. Zeke said jordan tried to apologize behind the scenes lol. He called the pistons undeserving champions. But the pistons dominated them when they played in the playoffs.
Nobody really knows if JORDAN apologized to him behind the scenes or not. That's only what Isiah said but who really knows. JORDAN to me has never been passive aggressive. He said what he said and moves on. He never does interviews so how is that passive aggressive. Nonetheless Isiah could also stop answering questions about him if he chooses. It's not like he's forced to do that. JORDAN has moved on. I wish Isiah would do that also. Nobody said you have to like one another. Again it happens every day in life. There are people you rock with and people you don't. Plain and simple
Martin only did that when Malone was at his 18th season. Prime Malone would eat that mediocre pf for breakfast
When last did he speak with Larry?
Exit interview when Larry fired him
3:00 BRO SAID HE HAD 2 GET EM BACK 4 U💯😳
This bishhhhh never did nothing to nobody
Leave zeke alone he been thru a lot 😅
Some women don't recognize maturity and realness. They just keep on being sarcastic and joking.
@@teehud313 ikr the sad world we live in
@@drey_scorchin appreciate it
@@teehud313 no problem amigo
Isiah Thomas is so full of it!!! He is acting like he was a sweet Angel in the NBA. Im older enough to know and remember all the things he did. I lost a little respect for Matt and Stephen for letting him get away with all these lies without questioning him on some of his antics.
Bad boy wanna be remembered as a good guy!
100 percent. He is full of shit
So what did he say in the clip that's gotten you all flustered?
@@kaydee1485 i think maybe its just that as the leader of the bad boys he would tell laimbeer and rodman to "put people on their ass" and then laugh when they did. even if they got injured .then again he is much older now and not the same person.
Isaiah must have forgotten bill Cartwright knock his tail out, Zeke won't mention him.
Who the fucc was that?? Why should zeek talk about him when all they had between them was justin basketball game, nothing like magic and the mailman
Cap, Cartwright never KO Isaiah...Nobody has ever been KO in the NBA due to fighting...You are all cap miss
It’s Isiah and they were talking about the Dream Team. Bill wasn’t part of that
@@truthiscensored Rudy Tomjanovich was knocked out like no one
Were all humans- Hu means humonous(dirty body) and MAN(A spirit in a body).
A spirit in a dirt body👑
Most NBA players called him a Snake
Anyone who watch 80s 90s NBA know who and what a liar this dude is.
He was a good player but a damn snake
It's only right that two egregious individuals become friends
Says the perfect being, shut up.
Did he tell y’all what he did to fk it up? He’s the common denominator in all these problematic relationships
hes from the hood
Bro it's not hard to find out. Karl Malone elbowed him so bad he needed stitches. He and Magic clashed hard in the finals, which fractured they already existing friendship. Zeke could separate life and basketball, Magic couldn't and their teams didn't want them to be friends to begin with. With Mike, the Pistons where a physical team, and didnt shake hands with the Bull when the Bulls won. Mike had alot of choice words for them in the media including calling the Pistons 'undeserving winners', from the Pistons' side they did the same thing the Celtics did to them, they didn't see the need to congratulate their opponents.
@@kaydee1485 Malone retaliated for how they fouled his teammate..sorry buddy you wrong..MJ had choice words after two years of them trying to hurt him..you lying again..and Isiah and Magic fell out cuz Isiah called him gay after he contracted aids..move along you wrong and Isiah looked for MJ after the buzzer when they beat him but want man enough to walk by with his chest out he cowered like a b(&@
Why didn't Chuck Daly stand up for Isiah?
Thats a Kingdom principle or law: Forgive someone so you can be Forgiven👑
For IF you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Luke 6:37 In the Kingdom constitution 👑
This man is a con. Are we supposed to respect the dirty fouls we witnessed? The man could play BUT he was the leader of the Jordan Rules. I’m sure he’s tired of people calling him out. Hence to him now playing the victim and now “can’t we all just get along” CHARADE.
If he has made amends with folk, that's great, but why is he telling us about it? Why does he think that we need to know?
He's made-up with Magic but why was there a falling out?
I'm also wondering, is he still laying the blame at MJ*s doorstep for his exclusion from the Dreamteam?
Isiah is not someone who you should take at his word. He twists things, and will misrepresent things and make stuff up. He does it ever so subtly as to give himself "an out" should the truth be discovered. Isiah is disingenuous at best, and a very cunning manipulator and liar at worst. No matter which, he will always present himself as the victim. This man is not to be believed or trusted.
All those reasons have all been brought up already my guy. Jordan was the one who got him excluded. There is a recording of Jordan saying if Isiah on the Dream Team I won't play. Isiah is not a victim in anyway. It was just basketball too him. It's everybody else that took it personal. They kept them lingering feelings off the court where they should have stayed.
Does anybody know how Isiah became the Victim of the NBA?
MJ achieved a status where he can never be wrong...that's how.
It seems like (3) people mentioned in this title valued friendship > competition. The con man strikes again.
OG! Magic not your homie.
It’s no wonder MJ is driven away from Isiah and his fruitiness
Zeke think he slick
Karl Malone got a 13 year old pregnant abandoned the kid, that kid end up being Demetrius Bell of the NFL 💯
What!?!?!?!?! Are u serious
@@slovell920 shit crazy
@@slovell920yup its true
@@slovell920when Karl was 19 in college, yeah
And guess what? Nobody gives a fuck
This is boring. LOL.