The "kindness" and "posivity" she preaches is always just to her. Be kind to her, praise her, do not judge her, or you are fatphobic and racist, while she judges and sexualises others all the time.
I never liked her because she never been a body positivty person, she's lazy and keep lying. Being lazy shouldn't be a body positivty, body positivity should apply to peoples that have issues with their bodies, not to those who love to destroy their bodies and to act like is good and a vibe, then to make other innocent peoples follow them into destroying their bodies.
Why do we have to consent to thinking someone is sexy or attractive? Like, that is such a snowflake response to say that we aren't allowed to think that about someone.
@RSully94 You can't really control your thoughts, so you can think that way about someone, but you shouldn't act on it. I think that's what op meant by sexualizing because if you sexualize someone, that means you said something or did something to that person. In this case Lizzo did sexualize BTS because she made a comment about having sex with them. No one would've said anything if she just thought it and kept it to herself, but obviously most people wouldn't be comfortable hearing such comments from a stranger.
@@RSully94 Try to imagine how grossed out the members of BTS might've felt if they knew about what she said. This random woman they don't even know is talking about having sex with them. So fuckn weird. Leave your fantasies about people in your head. There is no need to tell people about it.
@@RSully94we are allowed to think whatever we want but that doesn't mean that the person we think is hot wants to hear it, specially when you say you want to have sex with them for the whole world to know, it's common sense. if it was a man talking like that about a group of girls younger than him, he would not have the same treatment as she did
Don't be shocked, Ellen DeGeneres did the same thing for year before she was exposed as a fraud. Normally if they're going overbroad with the preaching, then they're a fake
@@howeffingridiculous A gold-digger is a person who has a relationship with someone who is rich in order to get money or expensive things from them. These girls were hire to dance on her tour. Suing someone for mistreatment in the work force is not Gold digging you muppet
It's the talent I put on a pedestal...their amazing talents have helped me got through life... I don't expect them to be less human than anyone on this planet .
This whole saga disappoints me because in public she always seemed to be about positivity and diversity. I had hoped she was really that person, but she hid it all behind the scenes. I guess the first sign things weren’t right was that she said Chris Brown was her favorite person on Earth… Also, I find it really weird how people are trying to “hold Lizzo accountable” or “put her in her place” by being fatphobic. We can be upset at her without fighting fire with fire, y’all.
All this positivity is all going way over your heads. you guys need to stop accepting being fat, it is not shameful but u gotta understand it is not healthy that is just plain stupid and dont force people to look at you with interest if u have an arm that weights like legs fuck that
She always seemed like someone who was using body positivity to break into the mainstream but was actually just doing it for fame and attention. I totally believe that she could be a mean girl fueled by fame.
Body positivity should not be associated with being just a fat person. Smh this mouvement was created to uplift disabled people, people who were disfigured, not people who enjoy eating too much. Anyhow, this mouvement is so commercialised is actually insane
Yeah, she probably assumed it was the best way for someone like her to gain popularity. It's harder to become popular when your that size, but when you make your whole presence apart of overcoming the odds... well I guess it's more "marketable"
@@drawl1591thx for saying this Lots of Selena stans are protecting her every move and she seems to know this well and controls her fans At every drama she seems to be the victim Shes like the hidden villain Devil in disguise
@@drawl1591when I see the shit that the celebrities are going under for recently, Selena legit seems like saint. Like the fuck did she do?? Was shady to hailey, who isn't that great of a person either?? Or "supposedly" abandoning her kidney donor when she is now friends with her?? I seriously don't get it
Biggie as well. The man is huge and is a certified rap legend, but he never made his music about body positivity and it didn't become the focus on his personal life either.
Maybe just Let people sing about what they want? Your favourite rapper sings about being black and being poor but you don't complain. Literally just let people sing about what they want.
@@mpumelelokhumalo7107lemme make u a fat rap. I'm fat, my flab protects me from hits from a bat. I eat slabs of meat, every day a cheat day for me. I say what I wanna say, and say what I wanna eat. If you don't like it you can beat your meat.
her comments about men have always been disgusting. If I man said the things she did - in fact WHEN they have (like saying she couldn’t be around BTS without having s*x with all of them 🤢🤮🤮🤮) they have been dragged, and rightfully so. Why does she get a pass? She’s genuinely disgusting and her and her fans essentially force this upon the men she becomes obsessed with. It’s always been weird.
It's really ridiculous. is it bc she's a woman, she thinks she gets a free pass? it's so normalized these days to just say whatever that crosses ur mind atm, even if it's inappropriate. 😠
She is that fake and toxic coworker that smiles at you but as soon as you turn around she shows her true colors. She is that coworker that creates a hostile and toxic environment at work! 👎🏼 She is practically selling to people an image that is not real.
You can be open about your sexuality, but that doesn’t mean, go around, and have people sexually assault others, and you make sexual jokes about YOUR subordinates, that’s abuse of power right there. I’m glad I’m witnessing her downfall in real time.
I'm just wondering why anyone ever thought the woman who walked her ass up to Chris Brown and said "you're my favorite person EVER" is a good person. Talking about the respect we deserve as women after supporting a known abuser... yeah I genuinely hope she never comes back from this
Years ago Lizzo accused a delivery woman of eating her food, showing her name and picture on her twitter, exposing her to her millions of followers and threatening her livelihood. Yet people would run to her defense playing the race/fat/female card, so she got a pass. She probably thought she could play the oppressed card forever to get away with anything, so I'm not surprised about this situation at all.
As a plus-sized person, Lizzo made my world less shitty by showing confidence no matter what. If the allegations are true imma be so disappointed in her and I am glad that there is a lawsuit so that we are all getting closer to the truth and I wish all the victims the best.
@@Rieky22thank you so much, your comment is indeed what most people don’t want to hear. Losing weight isn’t easy but discipline and commitment could save so many from the psychological traumas and medical problems encountered instead of a false confidence in a body type that endangers your life. FYI, I too had to work on my weight issue.
@@Rieky22 You are not this person’s doctor (that’s obvious). The human body is VERY complicated, losing or gaining weight is not automatically an easy process for everyone. Please have some empathy and understanding, telling a random stranger on the internet or the street that “they should just lose weight” is not a compassionate heartfelt plea for that person’s health/quality of life, it’s more like a sh*tty thing to say that helps no one.
Honestly I think most our favs are like this behind the scenes. That’s why I’m just over celebrity at this point. I just listen to the music I enjoy then peace out
@@DesignzRUs1 Me with Jason Aldean and Miranda Lambert too these pas tmonths. I've been a huge fan of them for years, but Jason's recent songs have definitely pandered to political thumping and it comes off disingenuous after what he firsthand experienced at the Vegas concert shooting, and Miranda continuously being the country version of Cardi B over the past couple of years have put me off of their music for a while. Like honestly, the only current country artists I listen to now are Megan Moroney, Tyler Childers, Jon Pardi, Kelsea, and Taylor's older catalog.
They really are :( I have friends who have danced for Mary J Blige and Rihanna and apparently they were both unreasonable nightmares to work with.. I don't wanna know anything about these people anymore, I'll just enjoy the music. Beyoncé is apparently pleasant though
It's a shame that Lizzo literally played into every stereotype that people perceived her as: a ratchet, fat, oversexualized, nymphomaniac Black Woman with no respect for herself. I'm not saying all these things are necessarily true (the truth is probably somewhere in between), but she certainly didn't help her image by participating in some of this nonsense 🙄
@@Laura-wt5kq keeping it short, Azealia said Lizzo is talented but also that Lizzo plays into the minstrel mammy trope and does a bunch of foolish acts (like showing her cheeks at a basketball game) to stay relevant
This was honestly (pun intended) something that made me sit down and contemplate. How someone could be so crude yet have another side of them shown to the public as uplifting, and positive, what the actual flip?
Sadly this happens all the time, even in other aspects of society. Often the side that professionals and or institutions (in whatever profession it is) show to the public , is a way to sellout to whatever is trendy or "en vogue". They often do not actually believe in the things that they preach it is just marketing in a way.
@@headshot217 excuse me but please do not tell me who I am, I understand that there are celebrities that do this, however this is a person of which their brand is built on large and positive movements you have to admit that not everybody thought this would happen. Do not judge me if you don’t know me take ur attitude somewhere else know it all
Her past controversies already showed that she did not actually believe in her own message. Her outfit during the game was not it. People told her and she get upset and could not listen to the feedback: like there is kids at the game too? Not everything is about being fatphobic. She always was doing soo much. She also was the only one to play the flute on the met gala. Why cant she just exist like the other celebs there? And there is many other examples of her behaviors that showed that she did not believe what she preached. So honestly the fatshaming her dancers part did not shock me.
Tbh I like her, but the over-emphasis on body positivity was a sign. She seemed wholesome and positive, but it seems like she was never as secure in herself as her public persona let on. If this was just about work ethic, I’d say they’re blowing it out of proportion. Beyoncé makes people work hard too. But the weird sexual stuff with bananas and shit makes me think that’s something more.
Well Beyonce is perfectionist that is why she is like that with people she works with and a reason why she is so great at performing live but lizzo's behavior is just disgusting.
@@EvelynL.1112I wouldn't say sold their soul to the devil. Plenty of non celebs do just as fucked up shit all the time, you just don't hear about it. Celebs are people and just like other people will make bad decisions
She has no boundaries and she isn’t secure with her own image and weight. She threw around her wealth to combat the criticism. Lost me as a fan and I wouldn’t be surprised if she is guilty.
I can see both ways honestly, but the details were so horrific and specific I don’t see anyone lying about this. I’d hate to victim blame but if you are staying neutral here, at least be neutral until anything happens disproving such.
You never know, it could be false. It might not be, but still. There are many reasons why someone would falsely accuse someone of something, and it is also possible for them to gang up on them even without communication; in fact, that's actually a great strategy if you want people to believe your false claims.
@@danielbuddenmusic1502theres been other people not even involved in the lawsuit speaking up corroborating the kind of experience the dancers have so….. i mean anything could be true and anything could be a lie but looking at the facts its not looking good for lizzo
What she basically is can be described as a covert narcissist. She creates this amazing and positive public persona that make people really like her and what she stands for, but it's a totally fake persona. In reality she is a total narcissist, who loves power and control, and mainly only thinks and cares about herself.
Yeah this is kinda exactly why it isn’t 100% shocking sadly :( she’s constantly projecting out to the world what she wants to hear from herself to herself. It’s sad
I wasn't even a huge Lizzo fan before this lawsuit came out. I had at most two of her songs in my playlist and I don't follow her on any social network app, but for some reason, I am really really disappointed by this. Definitely really sad regardless of whether the allegations are true.
Can you explain what made you so.disappointed? Is it because of her image? Or what she did to those dancers? I also don't follow her closely, but I thought she was funny and something different and new. Unfortunately she turned out to be like this.
Same, I listened to a few of her songs and thought they were good. I dont feel disappointed though, cause I didnt expect anything from her. But I'm really pissed by what the dancers have to pass through, even if they win the lawsuit I'm sure they'll be traumatized forever, even more now that they exposed their names and their faces and I'm sure Lizzo's minions are coming after them.
As an overweight gay man, she was an inspiration to me after years of being cyberbullied by the gay community for my weight. So when these allegations came out, I was extremely disappointed. She's over. I hope that if we get another person in her place that they actually are a decent human being and genuine artist.
It's insane. I made a video regarding the clip of her talking about BTS. When I was a baby ARMY (their fanbase), I remember seeing that video for the first time, and was shocked that she even said that about them. I went to the comments, and it seemed as if people were completely ignoring her saying that, or people were agreeing with that statement, given her over-the-top character. Given the recent news, I hope her former dancers get the justice they do deserve. If the allegations are false, however, then I hope that both parties are able to come to a peaceful and justified agreement.
I’m an army since 2015 That comment she made about them In raged me it was completely disgusting and inappropriate and all the other antics she does then cries when she gets backlash turned me completely off from her and part of me thinks these allegations are true
I am not a fan of BTS but this enraged me. If it was a man who said that about girls, he would have been publicly stoned to death by everyone. The double standards is apalling.
Im not an army anymore but her saying that about bts got ne fired up. Nobody is more passionate about music then BTS they put their heart and soul into every piece of music and it genuinely pisses me off how Lizzo completely disregarded that just to sexualise them I'm willing to bet she doesn't even know their names let alone them as people because nobody who knows them whether as a fan or personal would ever say that
@@satoriluvsoreos she actually had hung out with them back in late 2021, with J-Hope, V, Jungkook and Jimin. Was buddied up and everything, even said that VMin were the finest, and had a crush on them.
Honestly I feel alone in feeling not shocked by any of this. People who have to make themself a brand off of being a good person usually aren’t. I’m more shocked at the shit she made the dancers do, but I dunno.. something always get off about her, so for me all of this checks out
It's what I'm saying. It was obvious since her previous scandals that this woman means problems. Years ago, she had said disgusting things about other artists (BTS, Harry Styles). There is a clip where she talks about how "hot" is the idea of "these bananas" (what it's said in the lawsuit) for God's sake! But people seemed blind to her actions, acting like others were being mean. So, don't fake surprise when the woman who was saying and doing all that stuff publicly happens to be a bad person.
People who place constant emphasis on “positivity” and “respect” and “self love” and “empowerment” only make me believe they don’t practice what they preach and they have something deeper going on. I’m so tired of this kind of moralistic exhibitionism that they themselves don’t even believe, cause they sure as hell don’t convince me.
I remember I saw her on “Hot Ones” and she seemed rude to me, but the host was very polite. It made me feel uncomfortable like this person is not what they seem. It confused me because the host praised her for her positivity yet in her replies I didn’t know if she was acting or actually being passive aggressive. One things for sure, when a person’s actions confuse you and don’t match their words, then something’s up. Genuine people are not confusing.
People should have already confronted her about the s*xual harassment she's done to many male public figures, and several other things This lady is very talented, but she's been doing some things that should have left us all speechless
That one clip of her talking about BTS like that was circulating on Stan Twitter. I have even had Armys say that they received ☠️ threats for calling her out. Let's not even begin to mention how I always thought she was pandering to White audiences heavy, but I don't know if that's just me or not.
@@loserbutch0 idk, I just always felt like she was pandering to mostly White audiences than anything given her persona in general (along with most of her music), plus one of the allegations was that the people of color on her team were unfairly treated compared to the White people. It's a messy situation.
A lot of artist don’t take the people that are helping their show into consideration more dancers employees back staff need to come out about abuse #wesupport
Lizzo doesn’t love being obese, she never did. She isn’t body positive. She pretends to be because there’s no perceived shame in being “purposely” fat like it’s your goal and your preference than it is to admit you want to be skinny but can’t maintain the willpower to control your overeating habits and addiction to food. It can’t be perceived as a “failure” or weakness of self control if you push the narrative that you aren’t _trying_ to lose weight and are intentionally overweight. I used to be that way. I’d tout “I love my curves” and “I wouldn’t want to be skinny” while simultaneously hating my body and being fatphobic at heart. In disordered eating, the feelings of envy, self-hate, weight loss failure and being seen as a “pig” are rife. Her mask slipped when she fired a dancer for gaining weight.
I don't follow Lizzo, but I do admire her dedication, but she does come across as a character and maybe the fame has gone to her head. Lizzo will put out a scripted message to fans, but fans really don't know the artist till you hang out or work with them. I like your videos, I am a Metaller, but I do like to keep up to date on what is going on in the Commercial Music genre, seeing what the latest trends are.
I feel like pretty much every rock/pop star is like this behind the scenes, with some exceptions ofc, but it’s strange that she would behave like this when her brand is all about positivity and inclusivity. She’s made such a positive impact, and I really hope she can learn from this and fix her behavior, and make things right with the dancers. Also I think she’s denying everything rn for the sake of the lawsuit, but I hope when it’s over she can have an honest conversation about it. It’s truly sad, but it’s also sad she’s being scrutinized so much compared to the male rock stars that have always been like this. I really am praying that all of this has a happy ending, because it sucks that someone like her has been able to make it big but ended up going through a tragic downfall. I do wanna give her the benefit of the doubt and believe that she can get through this and look at herself and become a better person, and that she can truly practice what she preaches, because her being completely cancelled will make it difficult for another big black girl to make it big.
Like what is said in this video, male and female singers have their controversies, what makes Lizzo's MORE unbearable is that this controversy is a literal 180 to what she has been doing. She was a breath of fresh air for the music industry and a pillar of hope and positivity for many...and then these accusations brought it all to naught.
@@bakurahirasawa6596 her image of positivity and self love had to come from somewhere, and she has had an undeniable positive impact. I feel like there has to be some explanation, like that the fame completely went to her head and she has a self-hatred complex, and maybe a god complex too, and she projects it onto her team. I hope it’s something she can genuinely work on and fix, and remember what made her special in the first place. And also some humility and respectfulness.
A very good point someone made abt the dancers was that they truly would not be able to work as dancers because none is actually booking overweight dancers (as in other artists). So if they wanted a job and roof over their heads they were more vulnerable than other dancers in the industry. Also in general dancers are not treated well. And have no job security. I feel that Hollywood and the music industry is imploding honestly speaking. They are not paying people their worth. They are mistreating their staff etc. I think if there is no big changes made the entertainment industry will implode. But maybe that is necessary with all.the recent problems.
Everyone sane who isnt totally naive knew what she was. This woman has always been vulgar and fake her entire career. Shes also part of Hollyweird...its demonic so what did you guys expect huh? Are you all children? Idol worship always backfires and how a morbidly obese woman can be anyones idol is beyond me. The degeneracy in the US is wild.
True and another reason why I’m starting to delete my social media accounts especially UA-cam cause it just shows how the world is getting darker and people now and days are just so dark
I can almost bet her next lead single will be titled "Homewrecker" at this point just so the music is the only thing that will show up when someone googles it.
To me Lizzo always had this inappropriate, attention seeking, deluded and i’m sorry but obnoxious persona. And it has nothing to do with her being overweight.
Her choreographer came out in a video response too (the one being accused of trying to indoctrinate the dancers and inappropriate with her sex comments) and she sounded crazy. If that’s how she sounds trying to defend herself, how does she sound when talking to those dancers.
the bt’s stuff is so disgusting but sadly not surprising…sexualising asian men particularly east asian men is becoming so normal and like…quirky?? it’s so gross and sad especially because a lot of these idols are either really young or underage in some cases..no matter what gender you are, no matter what gender they are, oversexulising people is weird and gross and creepy. STOP IT.
Exactly. It’s crazy how a person of colour can say something so gross and sexual to a group of guys that are also of colour as well. If a white said it. It would taken as racial fetichism or something racist
While I’m saddened for the dancers and team members, I’m not surprised that Lizzo is capable of this level of abuse. Look at Ellen. Look at EVERY reality show. Now, yes, in contract you’re supposed to hold a certain size for costuming. Usually you CAN NOT gain weight or lose weight because of tailoring and money while touring. But the punishment of a sudden death re-auditioning? Having your choreographer ask which dancers have had sex? Nope. Wrong. Just wrong.
This is what happens when we put these celebrities on a pedestal because they entertain us with messages that we like. Lizzo found a lane with her positivity and "big girls can do it too" messaging. The reality is, Lizzo is a person with flaws just like.the rest of us. Her music and public personality is a BUSINESS. She doesn't live the life she sings about and that's ok. It's up to us consumers to separate Lizzo the entertainer, and Lizzo the person and realize that they are NOT the same
Pretty sure we can just NOT want to separate art from artist when artist is sexually abusive towards employees. We can trash all of the art along with the artist.
For sure it's a personal choice to separate art from the artist. I just think lizzo or any celebrity who eventually is involved in a controversy makes a fool of their fans who believed in them to begin with. If I was lizzo fan I would feel beyond betrayed.
@@leemythic4400 yeah, I think we can take the message and embarrass it for also remember that the artist is also not living that life. It's like rappers like Drake. Drake's talk about all this gangsta stuff, but does he really do that stuff? Nope, but people want to hear it, so he gives it to them
for everyone saying the victims are liars, let me tell you something: everyone assumes victims lie for attention and money, but you do realize that it takes MONEY to sue someone, right? it's not free. all those legal fees add up. plus, the audacity to sue someone over something you know they didn't do, with no proof, is extremely unlikely. they know they wouldn't get away with it so it would just be a waste of time and money. there's multiple victims in this case, you think if they were faking it not one person said "hey this is wrong and we wouldn't even get away with it"? highly unlikely. also, what "fame" could these girls possibly get? when victims come forward with accusations, they're always criticized, harassed, and go through a living hell just for speaking out. especially speaking out against someone with money, fame, and power, they know its a big risk cuz they could be forced into silence by other powerful figures and lizzo's giant fanbase. there's no rational reason as to why anyone, especially multiple people, would lie about this. i know its just a small minority of ppl who don't believe them but i wanted to put this out there. the same goes for male celebrities too. im glad lizzo is getting called out but i feel like most ppl have more skepticism about accusations when its against a male celebrity. call out any male the same way you're calling out lizzo.
The crazy thing is though it’s alot of people that would do that no matter the cost. You have ppl that lie all the time so no it’s not surprising someone would that just for fame . People would go beyond and do insane stuff just for fame so pls don’t let that go over your head you got some messed up people the world. I’m not saying that the girls are lying but I’m not gonna jump to conclusions
I'm not assuming.I'm saying we don't actually know. For example I see no proof of these interactions ever happening,no photos,no video,no audio.Just women talking and saying things. There's nothing to prove any of it happened. 🙄 this is about as reliable as ''leaving neverland'' and the train station that didn't exist. 🙄
narcissists are known to create ridiculous,elobrate stories[false ones] so it's highly possible they might not be telling the truth and I do notice they sound self-centered when they speak.A lot of ''me,me,me!'' talk. Something isn't right,my spidey-senses are tingling with this one.
Body positivity has always been odd to me. Because the body positivity seems to evaporate when a women with a gorgeous hourglass figure walks in. Secondly lizzo was never a good role model, she uses her weight for attention and that’s how she makes her money. I doubt she started making music for inclusivity and the big girls around the round. It just happened suddenly that she became the spokes person for big girls during this body positivity era
Cue the anti-fat comments because I know they're coming. Y'all know y'all can dislike or disagree with someone and not be anti-fat right? *some refer to anti-fat as fatphobia but I refuse to pathologize bigotry.
Some of the comments here are so disappointing... We get it random commenter, you hate fat people. But fat people don't need to hear more trash talk about their weight because I can guarantee that like 99% of them already feel bad and ashamed about their situation.
Her being a mean girl doesn't surprise me. These celebrities are not nice people behind the scenes. Which is why celebs need to stay away from being The Queen Of Nice (just ask Ellen).
I've worked with the public all my life, over time you develop a sense of spotting dishonest people. The first time I saw an interview with her, I immediately saw that she didn't have a frank and honest look. I could be wrong, but that rarely happens.
I saw an episode of Dave Letterman where she was the guest. Let me preface this by saying, I don’t dislike her. I don’t follow her or her music. I’m just older and I enjoy the music I grew up with. That said, I felt there was something disingenuous about her, just a feeling. Like she was trying too hard to be liked. I can believe that she is a mean girl. I think when some entertainers (not all)that reach her status, they think their ish doesn’t stink. I believe these dancers had to go along to get along, until they couldn’t take it anymore.
I'm honestly not shocked by this i have been side eyeing lizzo ever since she tweaked at a basketball games in front of kids. I knew it was all a facade ,and lizzo comes off as very insecure which is why I'm not surprised by this.
I see alot of "body positivity" that is only positive if its a fat female. They are also usually negative towards skinny women and fat men. Call it what it is its "female fat positivity" or "health denial"
As much as i’ve always liked some of her music because she is a talented artist, singer and songwriter i never followed her on social media or been 💯 with her personality because she always seemed forced in her embrace of body positivity which is actually a great movement but she always seemed to use it to simplify mask her insecurities and get people to like her rather than really believing and live it. Like her excessive push of nudity and over sexualizing of herself which i really don’t like when the girlies these days just gratuitously over sexualize themselves. Especially when they have all the talent already. The industry pushes them to do that and in a way so does the average public because people react to that more than anything. I think as millennials and gen z generations some of us are just tired of that trope. It’s basically like what Lena dunham used to do a few years back like this performative body positivity but secretly or not so secretly projecting insecurities onto others, and also being super freaky masking it as quirky. I dont mind that quirkiness and freaky side as we can relate but again doesnt seem genuine all the time or off. Its like the girls who never got picked growing up but grew up to crack the system and a very niche area that made them famous and now with the power of money and influence run wild. Self hatred is dangerous to oneself but also the surroundings of that person who experiences it not doing the therapeutic work to understand their patterns and heal towards self acceptance. Thats just my observation of people like Lizzo and others. Regardless if this is true or not, i still see some of her branding as not as genuine and that response didn’t result help
omg I'm sick of these offended snowflakes everywhere and canceling people - in fact, targeting celebs - on purpose, for 15 minutes of fame and money. and bullying is still not a crime. being a jerk is not a crime. nowadays we are canceling people for bs like this - they are people in this world who are rude and those who are nice, live with it, it has always been like this. also, it all depends on the context and is always subjective. you weren't there, and these dancers could be exaggerating as well. Lizzo maybe had a bad day. and maybe it happened once - you don't know. or maybe for these dancers, it was rude or abusive, but if one of us saw it, for us, it wouldn't be. the problem is it's always told by someone through their own filters and that is not universal. abuse is often subjective, especially nowadays when people are crying and are offended by every little thing! the only abuse which is not subjective is hitting someone on purpose, attacking, yelling - like yelling insults 24/7 without a reason, or other serious stuff. But being demanding and mean is not a crime or real abuse, period.
I really try to play “innocent until proven guilty” especially with after what happened with Kwite. But I’ve heard that the more outlandish it sounds, the more likely it is to be true
I hope you guys weren’t eating when you watched this video, because the story about the bananas was just plain *weird.* I probably lost my appetite when I heard Lizzo allegedly did that to her dancers. 😳
I always knew she was a fake, lol. Seriously every time she talked about body positivity it was all about herself. On top of that she ALWAYS talked about being attracted to fit men. She never once talked about being attracted to a bigger body to men, or even gave them any kind of a shout out or love lol it was always about propping herself up. It kind of reminds me as a gay man when I’ve seen other POC who complain about “No fats no fems no black or Asians” or whatever. And they ONLY date white people and never their own race. And it was all projection to lift themselves up but no one else.
you don't really ''know'' anything about her.Neither do I except what is shown. But from what I can see it's possible this could be a set-up,something feels fishy about all of this,and why mention it when a tour is out? really sounds like a twisted plan to crush a rival's success more than a victim story. 🤨
It kind remind of billie. She was kinda the same with Billie Eilish. Everyone thought she was super clean and never say anything offensive but we'll she has a pass.
We live in a day and age where anyone can say anything about someone and people will believe it. I’m just gonna wait until this trial is over before deciding to slander Lizzo or her dancers. People need to understand that you weren’t actually there you don’t know what actually happened. We live in a sick world where sometimes these allegations are true and sometimes they aren’t. There’s no proof or anything to deny it as of now so I’m staying neutral.
THIS! That's the thing... anyone can make up anything about someone and people will believe it. Even if the person accused is actually found innocent. There is always a group of people online who will constantly bring the false accusations/rumors up and never let them rest. Its sad but it happens. That's why innocent until proven guilty is so important, but nowadays its guilty and still guilty even if proven innocent.
If I am being completely honest, I’ve always felt that the people associated with the “body positivity movement were always a bit off. I’m not saying that one shouldn’t love their body, but to make your entire personality/career based off your weight just screams insecurity. Now imagine an entire team of insecure people being lead by an insecure leader…. conflict is bound to happen.
Before, i didn't really care about her. I had a love-hate relationship with her approach to body positivity. HOWEVER, when i heard her talk like that about BTS, i lost all my respect for her. Like, as an artist, how can you sexualise another artist that you dont even know ? Imagine the outcome if a male artist said the same about a girl group.. Anyway, im not surprised about this scandal.. usually, the people trying to act the most positive and perfect are the most flawed..
I don't think it will affect her that much..especially after one of the plaintiffs was singing Lizzo’s praises months before the lawsuit in a video, saying how wonderful it was working with her the previous year…Yes, I can see some bad behavior on her part but fired disgruntled suing bosses is nothing new….
That employee could have been hiding the bad stuff so they couldn't get fired. Now I don't want to say much because I don't want to end up treating her harsher then others who have done a lot worse but that is a consideration
@@henrywayne5724Check out the TMZ segment with the plaintiff saying it was an absolute pleasure working with her before she was fired…just 4 months ago..why would anyone want to continue working with her under such horrible conditions?..🤔
@@Cliodhna-z1i The court of public opinion has decided.. The entire concept behind cancel culture..Sounds like the narrator has made up his mind already..
Omg the disgusting thing she said about BTS! I hope they didn't hear about it, especially Taehyung. He said he liked her music and played it before. 4 of the members watched the Harry concert next to her, and they greeted her. How could she dehumanise them after having a friendly relationship with them.
While some artists don’t want dancers to outperform them, Lizzo seems to not want dancers to outweight her. 😭 horrible
No dude she shamed people for being FAT or basically for gaining weight
@@smileyface8057 ironic
That's what they said
imagine a job where a requirement is to have diabetes or get out
@@smileyface8057thats literally what this comment was suggesting read again
The "kindness" and "posivity" she preaches is always just to her. Be kind to her, praise her, do not judge her, or you are fatphobic and racist, while she judges and sexualises others all the time.
exactly
Woooow, woke culture in a paragraph
yup, she’s a narcissist
@@sanestebanmejia telling the truth is woke and you're a sleeping sheep. Wake up. Where were you when Lizzo objectified Chris Evans
I never liked her because she never been a body positivty person, she's lazy and keep lying. Being lazy shouldn't be a body positivty, body positivity should apply to peoples that have issues with their bodies, not to those who love to destroy their bodies and to act like is good and a vibe, then to make other innocent peoples follow them into destroying their bodies.
there’s a difference between being open with your sexuality and sexualising other people without their consent…
Why do we have to consent to thinking someone is sexy or attractive? Like, that is such a snowflake response to say that we aren't allowed to think that about someone.
@RSully94 You can't really control your thoughts, so you can think that way about someone, but you shouldn't act on it. I think that's what op meant by sexualizing because if you sexualize someone, that means you said something or did something to that person. In this case Lizzo did sexualize BTS because she made a comment about having sex with them. No one would've said anything if she just thought it and kept it to herself, but obviously most people wouldn't be comfortable hearing such comments from a stranger.
@@RSully94 Try to imagine how grossed out the members of BTS might've felt if they knew about what she said. This random woman they don't even know is talking about having sex with them. So fuckn weird. Leave your fantasies about people in your head. There is no need to tell people about it.
@@RSully94we are allowed to think whatever we want but that doesn't mean that the person we think is hot wants to hear it, specially when you say you want to have sex with them for the whole world to know, it's common sense. if it was a man talking like that about a group of girls younger than him, he would not have the same treatment as she did
None of these is probably true
How can you make positivity your whole brand and be such a horrible person behind the scenes? The hypocrisy is UNREAL.
Don't be shocked, Ellen DeGeneres did the same thing for year before she was exposed as a fraud. Normally if they're going overbroad with the preaching, then they're a fake
It’s called the Ellen curse
It is real , because many do this .
Do you know for sure that the accusations are true? Could the accusers be gold diggers?
@@howeffingridiculous A gold-digger is a person who has a relationship with someone who is rich in order to get money or expensive things from them. These girls were hire to dance on her tour. Suing someone for mistreatment in the work force is not Gold digging you muppet
Don't put celebrities on a pedestal. They are human just like the rest of us, they will disappoint you at some point.
@Darkvelvet377 😑
@Darkvelvet377you're corny
It's the talent I put on a pedestal...their amazing talents have helped me got through life... I don't expect them to be less human than anyone on this planet .
I'm better than a lot of them.
@@cleftheart1969 And this is why I can still listen to RKelly's music.. even tho he was a monster.
This whole saga disappoints me because in public she always seemed to be about positivity and diversity. I had hoped she was really that person, but she hid it all behind the scenes. I guess the first sign things weren’t right was that she said Chris Brown was her favorite person on Earth…
Also, I find it really weird how people are trying to “hold Lizzo accountable” or “put her in her place” by being fatphobic. We can be upset at her without fighting fire with fire, y’all.
It's pretty expected, dumbass people did that before this came out, now they feel like she gave em a reason lol
Her behavior is unacceptable and just plain right disgusting!
All this positivity is all going way over your heads. you guys need to stop accepting being fat, it is not shameful but u gotta understand it is not healthy that is just plain stupid and dont force people to look at you with interest if u have an arm that weights like legs fuck that
Lizzo has had her ego stroked for being fat for the past few years. If it's true she's a horrible person NO ONE should be suprised.
Y’all have to stop believing in these celebs. Their whole entire existence is meant to sell you an image
She always seemed like someone who was using body positivity to break into the mainstream but was actually just doing it for fame and attention. I totally believe that she could be a mean girl fueled by fame.
Me too
Body positivity should not be associated with being just a fat person. Smh this mouvement was created to uplift disabled people, people who were disfigured, not people who enjoy eating too much. Anyhow, this mouvement is so commercialised is actually insane
@@khadyadjisall5708agreed people are ridiculous
@@serenity2010sh I see what you did there.
Yeah, she probably assumed it was the best way for someone like her to gain popularity. It's harder to become popular when your that size, but when you make your whole presence apart of overcoming the odds... well I guess it's more "marketable"
Most celebrities who try to push positivity or "kind" personas tend to be the opposite. See: Ellen Degeneres.
Selena Gomez
Keisha
@@drawl1591thx for saying this
Lots of Selena stans are protecting her every move and she seems to know this well and controls her fans
At every drama she seems to be the victim
Shes like the hidden villain
Devil in disguise
Brendon Urie
@@drawl1591when I see the shit that the celebrities are going under for recently, Selena legit seems like saint. Like the fuck did she do?? Was shady to hailey, who isn't that great of a person either?? Or "supposedly" abandoning her kidney donor when she is now friends with her?? I seriously don't get it
Queen Latifah and Missy Elliot were also plus size, but they didn't make their music about that fact, they just made good music
Biggie as well. The man is huge and is a certified rap legend, but he never made his music about body positivity and it didn't become the focus on his personal life either.
Maybe just Let people sing about what they want? Your favourite rapper sings about being black and being poor but you don't complain. Literally just let people sing about what they want.
@@mpumelelokhumalo7107lemme make u a fat rap.
I'm fat, my flab protects me from hits from a bat.
I eat slabs of meat, every day a cheat day for me.
I say what I wanna say, and say what I wanna eat.
If you don't like it you can beat your meat.
@@mpumelelokhumalo7107 It really went over your head
Neither did Jill Scott, Angie Stone or Adele
The BTS joke was awful. Imagine if a man said the same thing, people would cancel him in a second
Eh I seen men celebs say it and have great careers or don’t get called out en till their old
@@tamialeslie7187doesn’t make it acceptable eitherway
Ikr it was so disrespectful someone said that she apologized but I dont think she did.
her comments about men have always been disgusting. If I man said the things she did - in fact WHEN they have (like saying she couldn’t be around BTS without having s*x with all of them 🤢🤮🤮🤮) they have been dragged, and rightfully so. Why does she get a pass? She’s genuinely disgusting and her and her fans essentially force this upon the men she becomes obsessed with. It’s always been weird.
I think it's because for men, it's more socially expected for men to be lewd then women who are socially conditioned to be less sexual then men
Bro her Chris Evans comments were always so weird.
It's really ridiculous. is it bc she's a woman, she thinks she gets a free pass? it's so normalized these days to just say whatever that crosses ur mind atm, even if it's inappropriate. 😠
Exactly !!!!
Facts
She is that fake and toxic coworker that smiles at you but as soon as you turn around she shows her true colors. She is that coworker that creates a hostile and toxic environment at work! 👎🏼
She is practically selling to people an image that is not real.
You can be open about your sexuality, but that doesn’t mean, go around, and have people sexually assault others, and you make sexual jokes about YOUR subordinates, that’s abuse of power right there. I’m glad I’m witnessing her downfall in real time.
I'm just wondering why anyone ever thought the woman who walked her ass up to Chris Brown and said "you're my favorite person EVER" is a good person. Talking about the respect we deserve as women after supporting a known abuser... yeah I genuinely hope she never comes back from this
Years ago Lizzo accused a delivery woman of eating her food, showing her name and picture on her twitter, exposing her to her millions of followers and threatening her livelihood. Yet people would run to her defense playing the race/fat/female card, so she got a pass.
She probably thought she could play the oppressed card forever to get away with anything, so I'm not surprised about this situation at all.
As a plus-sized person, Lizzo made my world less shitty by showing confidence no matter what. If the allegations are true imma be so disappointed in her and I am glad that there is a lawsuit so that we are all getting closer to the truth and I wish all the victims the best.
Don’t look up to celebrities and plus if you were having trouble that badly you can always loose weight
@@Rieky22unnecessary
@@Rieky22thank you so much, your comment is indeed what most people don’t want to hear. Losing weight isn’t easy but discipline and commitment could save so many from the psychological traumas and medical problems encountered instead of a false confidence in a body type that endangers your life. FYI, I too had to work on my weight issue.
gross
@@Rieky22 You are not this person’s doctor (that’s obvious).
The human body is VERY complicated, losing or gaining weight is not automatically an easy process for everyone.
Please have some empathy and understanding, telling a random stranger on the internet or the street that “they should just lose weight” is not a compassionate heartfelt plea for that person’s health/quality of life, it’s more like a sh*tty thing to say that helps no one.
Honestly I think most our favs are like this behind the scenes. That’s why I’m just over celebrity at this point. I just listen to the music I enjoy then peace out
My exact thoughts
Exactly…look what’s happening with Doja Cat and Ariana Grande. So disappointing.
You can’t look up to ANY of them.
@@DesignzRUs1 Me with Jason Aldean and Miranda Lambert too these pas tmonths. I've been a huge fan of them for years, but Jason's recent songs have definitely pandered to political thumping and it comes off disingenuous after what he firsthand experienced at the Vegas concert shooting, and Miranda continuously being the country version of Cardi B over the past couple of years have put me off of their music for a while. Like honestly, the only current country artists I listen to now are Megan Moroney, Tyler Childers, Jon Pardi, Kelsea, and Taylor's older catalog.
They really are :( I have friends who have danced for Mary J Blige and Rihanna and apparently they were both unreasonable nightmares to work with.. I don't wanna know anything about these people anymore, I'll just enjoy the music. Beyoncé is apparently pleasant though
@@DesignzRUs1 That was me with Sia. I hope Carly Rae Jepson stays clear.
It's a shame that Lizzo literally played into every stereotype that people perceived her as: a ratchet, fat, oversexualized, nymphomaniac Black Woman with no respect for herself. I'm not saying all these things are necessarily true (the truth is probably somewhere in between), but she certainly didn't help her image by participating in some of this nonsense 🙄
I really never thought I'd say this, but Azealia* Banks was right about what she said regarding Lizzo
@@karaiakauma3179what did she say about Lizzo??
@@Laura-wt5kq keeping it short, Azealia said Lizzo is talented but also that Lizzo plays into the minstrel mammy trope and does a bunch of foolish acts (like showing her cheeks at a basketball game) to stay relevant
Right!
Exactly she plays that role too well
This was honestly (pun intended) something that made me sit down and contemplate. How someone could be so crude yet have another side of them shown to the public as uplifting, and positive, what the actual flip?
Most celebrities who try to push "positive" or "kind" personas tend to be the opposite. See: Ellen Degeneres.
Sadly this happens all the time, even in other aspects of society. Often the side that professionals and or institutions (in whatever profession it is) show to the public , is a way to sellout to whatever is trendy or "en vogue". They often do not actually believe in the things that they preach it is just marketing in a way.
You are extremely naive
@@OneVagabondWomanTHAT'S What I've Noticed Over n OVER! Wolves Undercover Like False Teachers/Preachers Basically.... Entertainers 💯👌
@@headshot217 excuse me but please do not tell me who I am, I understand that there are celebrities that do this, however this is a person of which their brand is built on large and positive movements you have to admit that not everybody thought this would happen. Do not judge me if you don’t know me take ur attitude somewhere else know it all
Her past controversies already showed that she did not actually believe in her own message. Her outfit during the game was not it. People told her and she get upset and could not listen to the feedback: like there is kids at the game too? Not everything is about being fatphobic. She always was doing soo much. She also was the only one to play the flute on the met gala. Why cant she just exist like the other celebs there? And there is many other examples of her behaviors that showed that she did not believe what she preached. So honestly the fatshaming her dancers part did not shock me.
Tbh I like her, but the over-emphasis on body positivity was a sign. She seemed wholesome and positive, but it seems like she was never as secure in herself as her public persona let on. If this was just about work ethic, I’d say they’re blowing it out of proportion. Beyoncé makes people work hard too. But the weird sexual stuff with bananas and shit makes me think that’s something more.
The “Chris brown is my favorite person” was definitely a red flag
Well Beyonce is perfectionist that is why she is like that with people she works with and a reason why she is so great at performing live but lizzo's behavior is just disgusting.
I agree with you except for the work ethic part. 12 hours of straight dancing and essentially not being allowed to use the bathroom?
@@kimnoirBeyoncé does something similar too and you don't see ppl with their pitchforks. It's selective outrage in my view
@@TCt83067695 What's your point? Does a double standard make it right?
Why are so many celebrities spiraling out of control!?
Because their true self is being exposed. This is the entertainment industry.
@@wildnfearless9840*true self But yeah, it's like celebrities sold their soul to the devil or something.
@@EvelynL.1112 Oops, autocorrect. Yeah, or they're just sketchy.
@@EvelynL.1112I wouldn't say sold their soul to the devil. Plenty of non celebs do just as fucked up shit all the time, you just don't hear about it. Celebs are people and just like other people will make bad decisions
Fame is not for everyone
She has no boundaries and she isn’t secure with her own image and weight. She threw around her wealth to combat the criticism. Lost me as a fan and I wouldn’t be surprised if she is guilty.
I dont wanna believe lizzo did it but i refuse to Believe that these woman just band together and came up with these Alligations
Specially since it’s in Amsterdam like that place anything is ok I think
I can see both ways honestly, but the details were so horrific and specific I don’t see anyone lying about this. I’d hate to victim blame but if you are staying neutral here, at least be neutral until anything happens disproving such.
You never know, it could be false. It might not be, but still. There are many reasons why someone would falsely accuse someone of something, and it is also possible for them to gang up on them even without communication; in fact, that's actually a great strategy if you want people to believe your false claims.
@@danielbuddenmusic1502theres been other people not even involved in the lawsuit speaking up corroborating the kind of experience the dancers have so….. i mean anything could be true and anything could be a lie but looking at the facts its not looking good for lizzo
@@Allgloss312 I know, but still.
She’s always had weird energy. Could see right through her… not a kind person.
y’all say this every time a celebrity is under heat, you couldn’t see through anything because you do not know this woman in real life 😂😂😂😂
@@kennedyrianne right😂
@@kennedyrianne Preach!!!
@@kennedyriannenot everyone is everyone lol
@@kennedyriannerifht
“NDA NO LOOSE LIPS” yeaa she snitched on herself if anything 😭
What she basically is can be described as a covert narcissist. She creates this amazing and positive public persona that make people really like her and what she stands for, but it's a totally fake persona. In reality she is a total narcissist, who loves power and control, and mainly only thinks and cares about herself.
I believe all these body positivity comes from her own insecurities about herself.....!
Yeah this is kinda exactly why it isn’t 100% shocking sadly :( she’s constantly projecting out to the world what she wants to hear from herself to herself. It’s sad
"Girl, you made a whole song about false allegations, what are you talking about?"
I QUACKED 😭😭😭💀
I wasn't even a huge Lizzo fan before this lawsuit came out. I had at most two of her songs in my playlist and I don't follow her on any social network app, but for some reason, I am really really disappointed by this. Definitely really sad regardless of whether the allegations are true.
Can you explain what made you so.disappointed? Is it because of her image? Or what she did to those dancers? I also don't follow her closely, but I thought she was funny and something different and new. Unfortunately she turned out to be like this.
Same, I listened to a few of her songs and thought they were good.
I dont feel disappointed though, cause I didnt expect anything from her.
But I'm really pissed by what the dancers have to pass through, even if they win the lawsuit I'm sure they'll be traumatized forever, even more now that they exposed their names and their faces and I'm sure Lizzo's minions are coming after them.
She had one too many scandals for me. My appreciation for her slowly faded after every antic. This is the last straw.
As an overweight gay man, she was an inspiration to me after years of being cyberbullied by the gay community for my weight. So when these allegations came out, I was extremely disappointed.
She's over. I hope that if we get another person in her place that they actually are a decent human being and genuine artist.
Maiya The Don maybe? She’s also a plus size woman, who doesn’t have this kind of background.
I was rooting for her too because I'm a straight plus size woman that looks like me. Men often overlook me because of being plus size.
@@tjj6362
Then do something about it. It's not their problem. It's yours.
You don't need a "community" or somebody to validate you.
Needing community is being human. That’s why community exists.
It's insane. I made a video regarding the clip of her talking about BTS. When I was a baby ARMY (their fanbase), I remember seeing that video for the first time, and was shocked that she even said that about them. I went to the comments, and it seemed as if people were completely ignoring her saying that, or people were agreeing with that statement, given her over-the-top character. Given the recent news, I hope her former dancers get the justice they do deserve. If the allegations are false, however, then I hope that both parties are able to come to a peaceful and justified agreement.
I’m an army since 2015 That comment she made about them In raged me it was completely disgusting and inappropriate and all the other antics she does then cries when she gets backlash turned me completely off from her and part of me thinks these allegations are true
@@orionb5217 I completely agree.
I am not a fan of BTS but this enraged me. If it was a man who said that about girls, he would have been publicly stoned to death by everyone. The double standards is apalling.
Im not an army anymore but her saying that about bts got ne fired up. Nobody is more passionate about music then BTS they put their heart and soul into every piece of music and it genuinely pisses me off how Lizzo completely disregarded that just to sexualise them I'm willing to bet she doesn't even know their names let alone them as people because nobody who knows them whether as a fan or personal would ever say that
@@satoriluvsoreos she actually had hung out with them back in late 2021, with J-Hope, V, Jungkook and Jimin. Was buddied up and everything, even said that VMin were the finest, and had a crush on them.
Honestly I feel alone in feeling not shocked by any of this. People who have to make themself a brand off of being a good person usually aren’t. I’m more shocked at the shit she made the dancers do, but I dunno.. something always get off about her, so for me all of this checks out
The bts comment is so disgusting ,she should have been canceled the moment she said it💀
Big downfall for her. Took a real tumble.
In all fairness, you have to have been pretty gullible to believe Lizzo was a genuine person in the first place
It's what I'm saying. It was obvious since her previous scandals that this woman means problems. Years ago, she had said disgusting things about other artists (BTS, Harry Styles). There is a clip where she talks about how "hot" is the idea of "these bananas" (what it's said in the lawsuit) for God's sake! But people seemed blind to her actions, acting like others were being mean. So, don't fake surprise when the woman who was saying and doing all that stuff publicly happens to be a bad person.
Deadass. She’s shown questionable behavior from the jump. It’s odd.
Exactly.
Seriously. I'm not surprised one bit
People who place constant emphasis on “positivity” and “respect” and “self love” and “empowerment” only make me believe they don’t practice what they preach and they have something deeper going on. I’m so tired of this kind of moralistic exhibitionism that they themselves don’t even believe, cause they sure as hell don’t convince me.
I remember I saw her on “Hot Ones” and she seemed rude to me, but the host was very polite. It made me feel uncomfortable like this person is not what they seem. It confused me because the host praised her for her positivity yet in her replies I didn’t know if she was acting or actually being passive aggressive. One things for sure, when a person’s actions confuse you and don’t match their words, then something’s up. Genuine people are not confusing.
People should have already confronted her about the s*xual harassment she's done to many male public figures, and several other things
This lady is very talented, but she's been doing some things that should have left us all speechless
That one clip of her talking about BTS like that was circulating on Stan Twitter. I have even had Armys say that they received ☠️ threats for calling her out. Let's not even begin to mention how I always thought she was pandering to White audiences heavy, but I don't know if that's just me or not.
not gonna say you wrong but how was she pandering to white people? I'm not really into her stuff like that.
@@loserbutch0 idk, I just always felt like she was pandering to mostly White audiences than anything given her persona in general (along with most of her music), plus one of the allegations was that the people of color on her team were unfairly treated compared to the White people. It's a messy situation.
A lot of artist don’t take the people that are helping their show into consideration more dancers employees back staff need to come out about abuse
#wesupport
Lizzo doesn’t love being obese, she never did. She isn’t body positive. She pretends to be because there’s no perceived shame in being “purposely” fat like it’s your goal and your preference than it is to admit you want to be skinny but can’t maintain the willpower to control your overeating habits and addiction to food. It can’t be perceived as a “failure” or weakness of self control if you push the narrative that you aren’t _trying_ to lose weight and are intentionally overweight.
I used to be that way. I’d tout “I love my curves” and “I wouldn’t want to be skinny” while simultaneously hating my body and being fatphobic at heart. In disordered eating, the feelings of envy, self-hate, weight loss failure and being seen as a “pig” are rife. Her mask slipped when she fired a dancer for gaining weight.
And you know this how? Are you her friend? You are just talking BS
I love how the dance captain is a devout Christian but she at a whole banana bar eating bananas out of pum pum
😂😂😂
They said she's religious not necessarily a devout Christian. There are many religions and let's not assume hers is Christianity.
@@moreblessingmushohwe6506 girl get tf from out my business, I don’t know what religion they encourage eating a banana out a punani
The notes app should change its name to the apology app
ALL of her blind items came true! These were behind the scenes rumors, not to mention she's fired several of her tour managers.
I don't follow Lizzo, but I do admire her dedication, but she does come across as a character and maybe the fame has gone to her head. Lizzo will put out a scripted message to fans, but fans really don't know the artist till you hang out or work with them. I like your videos, I am a Metaller, but I do like to keep up to date on what is going on in the Commercial Music genre, seeing what the latest trends are.
Same metal head here too 🤟🏽
Metallica Or Megadeth?
@@Beyond1904 Metallica
@@Beyond1904Megadeth
I hope it's not true, there are people that relied on for her acceptance. I know, never worship celebs.
I feel like pretty much every rock/pop star is like this behind the scenes, with some exceptions ofc, but it’s strange that she would behave like this when her brand is all about positivity and inclusivity.
She’s made such a positive impact, and I really hope she can learn from this and fix her behavior, and make things right with the dancers.
Also I think she’s denying everything rn for the sake of the lawsuit, but I hope when it’s over she can have an honest conversation about it.
It’s truly sad, but it’s also sad she’s being scrutinized so much compared to the male rock stars that have always been like this. I really am praying that all of this has a happy ending, because it sucks that someone like her has been able to make it big but ended up going through a tragic downfall.
I do wanna give her the benefit of the doubt and believe that she can get through this and look at herself and become a better person, and that she can truly practice what she preaches, because her being completely cancelled will make it difficult for another big black girl to make it big.
Like what is said in this video, male and female singers have their controversies, what makes Lizzo's MORE unbearable is that this controversy is a literal 180 to what she has been doing.
She was a breath of fresh air for the music industry and a pillar of hope and positivity for many...and then these accusations brought it all to naught.
@@bakurahirasawa6596 her image of positivity and self love had to come from somewhere, and she has had an undeniable positive impact.
I feel like there has to be some explanation, like that the fame completely went to her head and she has a self-hatred complex, and maybe a god complex too, and she projects it onto her team.
I hope it’s something she can genuinely work on and fix, and remember what made her special in the first place. And also some humility and respectfulness.
A very good point someone made abt the dancers was that they truly would not be able to work as dancers because none is actually booking overweight dancers (as in other artists). So if they wanted a job and roof over their heads they were more vulnerable than other dancers in the industry. Also in general dancers are not treated well. And have no job security. I feel that Hollywood and the music industry is imploding honestly speaking. They are not paying people their worth. They are mistreating their staff etc. I think if there is no big changes made the entertainment industry will implode. But maybe that is necessary with all.the recent problems.
This is an example on why we should not idolize celebrities...you may never know what they really are. Everything is pretend nowadays.
Everyone sane who isnt totally naive knew what she was. This woman has always been vulgar and fake her entire career. Shes also part of Hollyweird...its demonic so what did you guys expect huh? Are you all children? Idol worship always backfires and how a morbidly obese woman can be anyones idol is beyond me. The degeneracy in the US is wild.
True and another reason why I’m starting to delete my social media accounts especially UA-cam cause it just shows how the world is getting darker and people now and days are just so dark
Lol who would idolize her?? 🤣🤣🤣
These celebs are out of control! Can you also make a video on Ariana being a homewrecker?
I hope he does.
I can almost bet her next lead single will be titled "Homewrecker" at this point just so the music is the only thing that will show up when someone googles it.
These are way to specific to not have truth to it
It doesn't surprise me, honestly. Celebrities love to act like they're body positive and crap. It's nothing more than a way to gain fans and money.
To me Lizzo always had this inappropriate, attention seeking, deluded and i’m sorry but obnoxious persona. And it has nothing to do with her being overweight.
I’ve been saying for ages, I don’t know what that is but there’s something about her I just don’t like…
This is like the equivalent to the chatholic church getting called out for mistreatment 😮😮
Her choreographer came out in a video response too (the one being accused of trying to indoctrinate the dancers and inappropriate with her sex comments) and she sounded crazy. If that’s how she sounds trying to defend herself, how does she sound when talking to those dancers.
She literally hired the lawyer who has worked with all the abusers: Johnny Depp, Bill Cosby, Chris Brown, etc. That is a HUGE red flag.
Nah.
the bt’s stuff is so disgusting but sadly not surprising…sexualising asian men particularly east asian men is becoming so normal and like…quirky?? it’s so gross and sad especially because a lot of these idols are either really young or underage in some cases..no matter what gender you are, no matter what gender they are, oversexulising people is weird and gross and creepy. STOP IT.
Exactly. It’s crazy how a person of colour can say something so gross and sexual to a group of guys that are also of colour as well. If a white said it. It would taken as racial fetichism or something racist
I am really uncomfortable with SZA supporting her.
While I’m saddened for the dancers and team members, I’m not surprised that Lizzo is capable of this level of abuse. Look at Ellen. Look at EVERY reality show.
Now, yes, in contract you’re supposed to hold a certain size for costuming. Usually you CAN NOT gain weight or lose weight because of tailoring and money while touring. But the punishment of a sudden death re-auditioning? Having your choreographer ask which dancers have had sex? Nope. Wrong. Just wrong.
This is what happens when we put these celebrities on a pedestal because they entertain us with messages that we like. Lizzo found a lane with her positivity and "big girls can do it too" messaging. The reality is, Lizzo is a person with flaws just like.the rest of us. Her music and public personality is a BUSINESS. She doesn't live the life she sings about and that's ok. It's up to us consumers to separate Lizzo the entertainer, and Lizzo the person and realize that they are NOT the same
Pretty sure we can just NOT want to separate art from artist when artist is sexually abusive towards employees. We can trash all of the art along with the artist.
For sure it's a personal choice to separate art from the artist. I just think lizzo or any celebrity who eventually is involved in a controversy makes a fool of their fans who believed in them to begin with. If I was lizzo fan I would feel beyond betrayed.
@@leemythic4400 yeah, I think we can take the message and embarrass it for also remember that the artist is also not living that life. It's like rappers like Drake. Drake's talk about all this gangsta stuff, but does he really do that stuff? Nope, but people want to hear it, so he gives it to them
Her BTS comment was incredibly gross. I can only imagine if that were Rick Ross (or any man really) saying that about NewJeans or something.
it’s so chilling to know that everything lizzo has said or done in public eye was all a facade
for everyone saying the victims are liars, let me tell you something:
everyone assumes victims lie for attention and money, but you do realize that it takes MONEY to sue someone, right? it's not free. all those legal fees add up. plus, the audacity to sue someone over something you know they didn't do, with no proof, is extremely unlikely. they know they wouldn't get away with it so it would just be a waste of time and money. there's multiple victims in this case, you think if they were faking it not one person said "hey this is wrong and we wouldn't even get away with it"? highly unlikely.
also, what "fame" could these girls possibly get? when victims come forward with accusations, they're always criticized, harassed, and go through a living hell just for speaking out. especially speaking out against someone with money, fame, and power, they know its a big risk cuz they could be forced into silence by other powerful figures and lizzo's giant fanbase.
there's no rational reason as to why anyone, especially multiple people, would lie about this. i know its just a small minority of ppl who don't believe them but i wanted to put this out there. the same goes for male celebrities too. im glad lizzo is getting called out but i feel like most ppl have more skepticism about accusations when its against a male celebrity. call out any male the same way you're calling out lizzo.
The crazy thing is though it’s alot of people that would do that no matter the cost. You have ppl that lie all the time so no it’s not surprising someone would that just for fame . People would go beyond and do insane stuff just for fame so pls don’t let that go over your head you got some messed up people the world. I’m not saying that the girls are lying but I’m not gonna jump to conclusions
I'm not assuming.I'm saying we don't actually know. For example I see no proof of these interactions ever happening,no photos,no video,no audio.Just women talking and saying things. There's nothing to prove any of it happened. 🙄 this is about as reliable as ''leaving neverland'' and the train station that didn't exist. 🙄
I don't see any proof so far. Just words.🙄@@ayeekid5186
narcissists are known to create ridiculous,elobrate stories[false ones] so it's highly possible they might not be telling the truth and I do notice they sound self-centered when they speak.A lot of ''me,me,me!'' talk. Something isn't right,my spidey-senses are tingling with this one.
Let's be honest, we all saw this coming from all the way across the observable universe.
Body positivity has always been odd to me. Because the body positivity seems to evaporate when a women with a gorgeous hourglass figure walks in. Secondly lizzo was never a good role model, she uses her weight for attention and that’s how she makes her money. I doubt she started making music for inclusivity and the big girls around the round. It just happened suddenly that she became the spokes person for big girls during this body positivity era
Cue the anti-fat comments because I know they're coming. Y'all know y'all can dislike or disagree with someone and not be anti-fat right?
*some refer to anti-fat as fatphobia but I refuse to pathologize bigotry.
Some of the comments here are so disappointing... We get it random commenter, you hate fat people. But fat people don't need to hear more trash talk about their weight because I can guarantee that like 99% of them already feel bad and ashamed about their situation.
@Darkvelvet377 It's not funny. And being soft or sensitive isn't a bad thing. Using soft as an insult just adds to the stigma of vulnerability.
Well… at least she didn’t play the flute on her apology.
First Doja, and now Lizzo, like wtf is going on???? 😭😭😭
like are we surprised ??? cus im not 💀
She responded to early, it felt like a heat of the moment response 😬
you know a celebrities career is over when the retrospective videos start coming out 😭
The "downfall" if Lizzo is gonna cause the world's largest earthquake 😂
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Her being a mean girl doesn't surprise me. These celebrities are not nice people behind the scenes. Which is why celebs need to stay away from being The Queen Of Nice (just ask Ellen).
Thank God I never supported her.
I've worked with the public all my life, over time you develop a sense of spotting dishonest people. The first time I saw an interview with her, I immediately saw that she didn't have a frank and honest look. I could be wrong, but that rarely happens.
I saw an episode of Dave Letterman where she was the guest. Let me preface this by saying, I don’t dislike her. I don’t follow her or her music. I’m just older and I enjoy the music I grew up with. That said, I felt there was something disingenuous about her, just a feeling. Like she was trying too hard to be liked. I can believe that she is a mean girl. I think when some entertainers (not all)that reach her status, they think their ish doesn’t stink. I believe these dancers had to go along to get along, until they couldn’t take it anymore.
They calling Lizzo R Belly 😅
I'm honestly not shocked by this i have been side eyeing lizzo ever since she tweaked at a basketball games in front of kids. I knew it was all a facade ,and lizzo comes off as very insecure which is why I'm not surprised by this.
I see alot of "body positivity" that is only positive if its a fat female. They are also usually negative towards skinny women and fat men. Call it what it is its "female fat positivity" or "health denial"
After the TMZ interview, I feel like there Lizzo has a slim chance of recovering instead of a 0% chance before when the controversy started
As much as i’ve always liked some of her music because she is a talented artist, singer and songwriter i never followed her on social media or been 💯 with her personality because she always seemed forced in her embrace of body positivity which is actually a great movement but she always seemed to use it to simplify mask her insecurities and get people to like her rather than really believing and live it. Like her excessive push of nudity and over sexualizing of herself which i really don’t like when the girlies these days just gratuitously over sexualize themselves. Especially when they have all the talent already. The industry pushes them to do that and in a way so does the average public because people react to that more than anything. I think as millennials and gen z generations some of us are just tired of that trope. It’s basically like what Lena dunham used to do a few years back like this performative body positivity but secretly or not so secretly projecting insecurities onto others, and also being super freaky masking it as quirky. I dont mind that quirkiness and freaky side as we can relate but again doesnt seem genuine all the time or off. Its like the girls who never got picked growing up but grew up to crack the system and a very niche area that made them famous and now with the power of money and influence run wild. Self hatred is dangerous to oneself but also the surroundings of that person who experiences it not doing the therapeutic work to understand their patterns and heal towards self acceptance. Thats just my observation of people like Lizzo and others. Regardless if this is true or not, i still see some of her branding as not as genuine and that response didn’t result help
omg I'm sick of these offended snowflakes everywhere and canceling people - in fact, targeting celebs - on purpose, for 15 minutes of fame and money. and bullying is still not a crime. being a jerk is not a crime. nowadays we are canceling people for bs like this - they are people in this world who are rude and those who are nice, live with it, it has always been like this. also, it all depends on the context and is always subjective. you weren't there, and these dancers could be exaggerating as well. Lizzo maybe had a bad day. and maybe it happened once - you don't know. or maybe for these dancers, it was rude or abusive, but if one of us saw it, for us, it wouldn't be. the problem is it's always told by someone through their own filters and that is not universal. abuse is often subjective, especially nowadays when people are crying and are offended by every little thing! the only abuse which is not subjective is hitting someone on purpose, attacking, yelling - like yelling insults 24/7 without a reason, or other serious stuff. But being demanding and mean is not a crime or real abuse, period.
One of Lizzo’s charges is sexual harassment.
I don't dislike lizzo but I saw this coming...... Idk why
Because she's totally full of it
Her persona was going to be impossible to keep up forever either way, especially if it's not really her nature. Only a matter of time...
@@brionnalane6231yup. People will typically tell ya who they are but it's up to the listener to be listening
@@brionnalane6231Just like Ned Fulmer and other celebs
Oh dear this woman is really something else I’m so disgusted I don’t even know what to say
The “downfall” shouldn’t hurt much since her self respect was already near rock bottom. Hope she gets help.
the BIGGER they are the HARDER they fall!
I really try to play “innocent until proven guilty” especially with after what happened with Kwite. But I’ve heard that the more outlandish it sounds, the more likely it is to be true
fr who would lie abt the banana thing
it’s so weird
RIP to her career.
I always saw her as someone too lazy to do anything,so she started body positivity bs.
I hope you guys weren’t eating when you watched this video, because the story about the bananas was just plain *weird.* I probably lost my appetite when I heard Lizzo allegedly did that to her dancers. 😳
I always knew she was a fake, lol. Seriously every time she talked about body positivity it was all about herself. On top of that she ALWAYS talked about being attracted to fit men.
She never once talked about being attracted to a bigger body to men, or even gave them any kind of a shout out or love lol it was always about propping herself up.
It kind of reminds me as a gay man when I’ve seen other POC who complain about “No fats no fems no black or Asians” or whatever. And they ONLY date white people and never their own race. And it was all projection to lift themselves up but no one else.
you don't really ''know'' anything about her.Neither do I except what is shown. But from what I can see it's possible this could be a set-up,something feels fishy about all of this,and why mention it when a tour is out? really sounds like a twisted plan to crush a rival's success more than a victim story. 🤨
It kind remind of billie. She was kinda the same with Billie Eilish. Everyone thought she was super clean and never say anything offensive but we'll she has a pass.
*Lizzo is the XXL Black Ellen*
Ellen didn't did what lizzo did
Nah Ellen was rude ash but Lizzie is a whole nother level what type of bullshit is she doing? This ain’t normal
We live in a day and age where anyone can say anything about someone and people will believe it. I’m just gonna wait until this trial is over before deciding to slander Lizzo or her dancers. People need to understand that you weren’t actually there you don’t know what actually happened. We live in a sick world where sometimes these allegations are true and sometimes they aren’t. There’s no proof or anything to deny it as of now so I’m staying neutral.
Yeah, the Internet is insane to not have an unbiased thought. Everyone literally is crying in every comment section.
THIS! That's the thing... anyone can make up anything about someone and people will believe it. Even if the person accused is actually found innocent. There is always a group of people online who will constantly bring the false accusations/rumors up and never let them rest. Its sad but it happens. That's why innocent until proven guilty is so important, but nowadays its guilty and still guilty even if proven innocent.
Finally people with common sense
I get that, but for now, I’d rather believe potential victims rather than someone who did everything she is being accused of
Honestly she’s always gave narcissist vibes to me.
If I am being completely honest, I’ve always felt that the people associated with the “body positivity movement were always a bit off. I’m not saying that one shouldn’t love their body, but to make your entire personality/career based off your weight just screams insecurity. Now imagine an entire team of insecure people being lead by an insecure leader…. conflict is bound to happen.
Before, i didn't really care about her. I had a love-hate relationship with her approach to body positivity. HOWEVER, when i heard her talk like that about BTS, i lost all my respect for her. Like, as an artist, how can you sexualise another artist that you dont even know ? Imagine the outcome if a male artist said the same about a girl group..
Anyway, im not surprised about this scandal.. usually, the people trying to act the most positive and perfect are the most flawed..
I don't think it will affect her that much..especially after one of the plaintiffs was singing Lizzo’s praises months before the lawsuit in a video, saying how wonderful it was working with her the previous year…Yes, I can see some bad behavior on her part but fired disgruntled suing bosses is nothing new….
It's more than fired disgruntled suing bosses lol...we have sexual harassment involved☠️
That employee could have been hiding the bad stuff so they couldn't get fired. Now I don't want to say much because I don't want to end up treating her harsher then others who have done a lot worse but that is a consideration
@@henrywayne5724Check out the TMZ segment with the plaintiff saying it was an absolute pleasure working with her before she was fired…just 4 months ago..why would anyone want to continue working with her under such horrible conditions?..🤔
And also nothing has been confirmed. It's just allegations
@@Cliodhna-z1i The court of public opinion has decided.. The entire concept behind cancel culture..Sounds like the narrator has made up his mind already..
my verbally abusive coach always played her in high school so I never liked her music lol.
Omg the disgusting thing she said about BTS! I hope they didn't hear about it, especially Taehyung. He said he liked her music and played it before. 4 of the members watched the Harry concert next to her, and they greeted her. How could she dehumanise them after having a friendly relationship with them.