As a 120 lover long before the beyond light buff with the big dog rolls like Slideshot+Iron Grip Stead Hand, the unexpected buff made me happy to look into my niche 120s long forgotten. I really am hoping to be wowed by rolls like my Subsitence+High Impact Reserves Bottom Dollar or my Perpertual Motion+ Focus Fury Pure Poetry…
@Sly_Tendencies it took many engrams to just get an Eye of the Storm and Fragile Focus Pure Poetry... I want Perpetual and Swashbuckler though... but I'm tired of running boring nightfalls for engrams.
Better Devils has a niche no one's talking about: Swashbuckler on prismatic titan. Why? When you put the fragment that gives you radiant on melee hit/kill, as well as consider how easy it is to get melee kills with the knockout aspect, Better Devils becones a 2 TAP 140. Coolguy mentioned the fragment for unravelling rounds, which is also good here. TL; DR: Prismatic titans already have ridiculous kill chaining with diamond lances, but adding a 2 tapping better devils just makes it crazier. Super fun setup.
Great to see older and slept on handcannons back but still extremely difficult to not have someone use rose. 20+ mobility. Slideshot for auto load, 20-25 range and stability paired with opening shot, eye of the storm or elemental cap… excluding the fact that it has ballistics too. Yeah very hard to majority of people stop using that.
Got two igneous hammers, one is pure consistency with Encore/ Eye of the Storm, and one with getting out max range with Keep Away and Opening Shot. Both have been so fun in this sandbox, and I should really try and get myself one last round Robin to actually craft the damn thing. Yes, I still don't have a craftable version after all this time. 😂
Makes me laugh that Bungie drops a bunch of 120s with Precision Instrument to provide options other than Igneous Hammer, makes a special call-out to this perk being put on new 120s so they can get players farming for it, all the while knowing they fully intended to essentially roll back the nerfs in order to make PI no longer necessary and invalidate all that farming. Just to, in true Bungie fashion, accidentally bring back 120 two-taps. Sure is great being a Bungie balance developer.
I've been glued to my smallbore accurized, rapid hit, eye of the storm Rose since I got it but maybe I'll take the others for a spin and see how they feel
@Coolguy. What would you say is you favorite 120 in the primary slot and with what perk combo? I'm not a big handcannon guy but with this buff I figured I'd give it a chance.
I'm using PI as a range perk personally. Bungie will need to pry my Igneous from my cold, lightless hands. It feels so flawless in my mouse and keyboard. Perfect looks, sound and feel. It could have the stats of True Prophecy and I'd use it.
I was on killclip crimils when everybody else was on igneous back in the 120 meta. Also Finally matched with Coolguy with the playerbase so small 😅 we were on anomaly
I think they should've changed precision instruments rather than a blanket buff. I've pretty much decided to avoid pvp for the rest of the season at this point.
Ok duke 44 looking good. Got my rampage roll and my kill clip roll I’ll mess around with both. But I too have all the “new hotness” rolls on newer 120’s BUNGIE ADD MORE VAULT SPACE FFS
Bungie cooked making 120s 2c1b again I love my ignious but I didn't have p.i on it so my exuvie or how ever it's spelt took the top hand cannon spot for me
i dont think handcannons should 2 crit, 1 body at pretty much every duling range, at every resil with the huge flinch they already have. they 100% will dominate in pvp. they have been for the longest time. handcannons should not flinch as hard as they do rn.
I’m just gonna safely assume that the reason why you didn’t bring up the Duke 44 is because you don’t have one 😢 it’s still the best hc in the game I can 1tap anyone and it getting me a lot of angry salty messages that just make me 😊
Hand cannons have too much aim assist especially for peek shooting. They need to be tamed down with their accuracy cone and their ranges need to be tamed down to more weapon accurate stats. Short barrels means shorter range that should be capped at 30 meters max for 120’s but more realistically shouldn’t go past 25 meters because they’re hand cannons not shout rifles.
Isn’t this the reason bungie nerfed 120s to begin with? Its capability to 2 tap with damage perks. We’re going back to this meta that bungie didn’t like. Mark my words, this will run rampant in PvP. People thought high ground was bad with a .6 ttk. Now we’re gonna deal with .5 ttk corner peaking hand cannons 🤦🏻♂️ this literally broke PvP back then. Why are we doing this again bungie. It’s gonna get nerfed again, once everyone and they momma start using 120s
@@MM-he2iq it's gone from a general ease of use perk to a niche anti-rift/anti-overshield perk. Still good for that specific scenario and for potentially extending your 3 tap range, but otherwise I don't think it's worth running any more since all 120s will 2c1b without it
thank you for watching! What hand cannons are you liking?
@@CoolGuyGames Crimil's, Vulpecula, Crimson.
Duke 44 is back on the menu boys.
I deleted mine a long time ago sigh 😔
I think I deleted mine too 😒
@nighttrain3430 ah damn... it was one of my favorites from Forsaken... still is. Crimils has taken its spot now because of enhancement though.
Big facts. Still have mine with opening shot, kill clip
The rapid/kill clip one never left my vault 😎
Adagio on Crimil's is a. 6 while extending range with no resil gate.
@@lonbordin what kills me about Adagio is the change in the rate of fire. It just doesn't feel right.
Kinda funny how this Inadvertently became a Strand-cannon appreciation video
As a 120 lover long before the beyond light buff with the big dog rolls like Slideshot+Iron Grip Stead Hand, the unexpected buff made me happy to look into my niche 120s long forgotten. I really am hoping to be wowed by rolls like my Subsitence+High Impact Reserves Bottom Dollar or my Perpertual Motion+ Focus Fury Pure Poetry…
@Sly_Tendencies it took many engrams to just get an Eye of the Storm and Fragile Focus Pure Poetry... I want Perpetual and Swashbuckler though... but I'm tired of running boring nightfalls for engrams.
Better Devils has a niche no one's talking about: Swashbuckler on prismatic titan.
Why? When you put the fragment that gives you radiant on melee hit/kill, as well as consider how easy it is to get melee kills with the knockout aspect, Better Devils becones a 2 TAP 140. Coolguy mentioned the fragment for unravelling rounds, which is also good here.
TL; DR: Prismatic titans already have ridiculous kill chaining with diamond lances, but adding a 2 tapping better devils just makes it crazier. Super fun setup.
Cool guy was in my lobby yesterday with the round robin.
They should update headrush to proc after a slide. Would instantly upgrade this to a great origin trait
It doesn't?
@ no I think it’s gotta be longer than a slide would take
Midnight coup with zen, ep, and the anti flinch mod doesn’t move its gorgeous
Still got a Duke MK.44 with rapid hit / kill clip! Can’t wait to try it!
1:12 bro was flabbergasted 😂
I would be too when I get suddenly launched. 😂
😭
What even was that 😂
Bro! What happened there? Lmao
Finallyyy strandcannons for my prismatic warlock pvp build thank you Cool guy
Why is it that HCs get so much love but let an AR so much as peep its head it would get shut down so fast you'll get whiplash.
Because whether you agree or not, nobody enjoyed the Auto spam metas, and I was one of the few who thought it was fun for a while.
Man I enjoyed the 450 auto meta. People actually moved around. Miss my prosecutor.
1:12 was that a ghost lmao
The heavy burst 2 tap is addiction love my wardens law 95 range kill clip but I wouldn’t take it into trials. Not there yet. Still fun in 6
When get kill clip going man I put up 1000 kills in 2 days it can bang
Great to see older and slept on handcannons back but still extremely difficult to not have someone use rose. 20+ mobility. Slideshot for auto load, 20-25 range and stability paired with opening shot, eye of the storm or elemental cap… excluding the fact that it has ballistics too. Yeah very hard to majority of people stop using that.
This is why i sub to coolguy..thanks for the vid man
So glad I kept my to the pain killers clip Something New. It’s insane
8:25 i got my first ever we ran with yesterday's question, so it holds a special place in my heart
Yeah, gotta love them new mods. I wish we could put them on D.F.A Adept and Fatebringer Timelost
Got two igneous hammers, one is pure consistency with Encore/ Eye of the Storm, and one with getting out max range with Keep Away and Opening Shot. Both have been so fun in this sandbox, and I should really try and get myself one last round Robin to actually craft the damn thing.
Yes, I still don't have a craftable version after all this time. 😂
Used my targeted redaction all weekend, felt really good with perfect float
Don't sleep on desperate measure as well on a 120. That can be nasty if built right.
Haven’t picked up my steady hand with iron grip since the nerf to 120s, picked it up again just now for IB and absolutely loved it. Love this buff
Targeted redaction being on the table makes me so happy. It’s so underrated.
"Hey babe.. new CoolGuy video... Don't u dare watch it without me again"
Bringing out my pure poetry, always loved the Hakke handcannon look
You don’t see the 120 kill clip hand cannons yet because most people didn’t keep them . They will creep back as people farm
Makes me laugh that Bungie drops a bunch of 120s with Precision Instrument to provide options other than Igneous Hammer, makes a special call-out to this perk being put on new 120s so they can get players farming for it, all the while knowing they fully intended to essentially roll back the nerfs in order to make PI no longer necessary and invalidate all that farming.
Just to, in true Bungie fashion, accidentally bring back 120 two-taps. Sure is great being a Bungie balance developer.
I've been glued to my smallbore accurized, rapid hit, eye of the storm Rose since I got it but maybe I'll take the others for a spin and see how they feel
@Coolguy. What would you say is you favorite 120 in the primary slot and with what perk combo? I'm not a big handcannon guy but with this buff I figured I'd give it a chance.
I'm using PI as a range perk personally. Bungie will need to pry my Igneous from my cold, lightless hands. It feels so flawless in my mouse and keyboard. Perfect looks, sound and feel. It could have the stats of True Prophecy and I'd use it.
Sturm feels good to use. It felt good before but i love it better now.
Check out my vault. Came across that air trigger /KC criminal dagger. NOICE. Not max range, but close enough for a dad gamer like myself.
Adagio is back!
Kill Clip+ Tunnel Vision Combined Action with a reload MW and 69 range.
Nice
I’ve got a slice/zen moment Better Devils that I love using. Slice/swashbuckler is pretty good on titan too. Can two tap with radiant and swashX5
Igneous Feels good because Bungie is using an Adaptive Model and gave it 120 stats.
The 74 range 94 stab Austringer 😅
I saved a Crimil's Dagger with Adagio which can 2 tap T10 Resil, I think it feels great.
I just need Hawkmoon to be craftable, it with other mag options would be insane
I was on killclip crimils when everybody else was on igneous back in the 120 meta.
Also Finally matched with Coolguy with the playerbase so small 😅 we were on anomaly
Igneous should have been an easy -5 to those stats. Not sure what they are thinking? Gun is broken.
My Opening Shot + Kill Clip Duke is back on the menu
There isn't a single hc that eats flinch like austringer. Genuinely busted.
I'm still holding on with my perfect spare rations that two taps up to 40 meters. You'll never stop me.
What roll 2 taps at 40m?
@@TheSwayzeTrainthats what im trying to figure out
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You can only get 37.5 meters of range at 100 Range with Spare Rations according to D2 Foundry.
@@TheSwayzeTrainidk bout 40m but it sounds like a Swashbuckler x5 w/ Radiant would 2tap
How do you feel about Combined Action with Adagio after this buff to 120's?
Rain of Fire + Harmony 120 = funni 2 tap on all resil :)
Yeah Handcannons feel great again
Gotta get over to neomuna for the R Robin
exuviea from act I rolls desperate measures. getting radiant from a melee kill will 2 tap
How are these changes with rampage? Still got a true prophecy with range finder rampage with 4000+ kills on it.. would love to use it again as well
Coolguy could you do a video showing us your controller setting ?
Like sens and ads sens , turn rate scalar and radar opacity etc...
We might get a real painful iron banner from this time will tell
Wish spare rations got some love. Max range is 66... how on a 140 is it 66
I think they should've changed precision instruments rather than a blanket buff. I've pretty much decided to avoid pvp for the rest of the season at this point.
I JUST DELETED ROUND ROBIN. Bungie timing strikes me again😂
What's the counter to a 40m two/three tap weapon?
Were you running an igneous with tricorn Sunday night in 6's? I think I ended up playing a matching with you
HAHA jk you 3 tapped me in the video 😂😂😂 I was Shelby, the titan on widows court
Make. Sure.
Ok duke 44 looking good.
Got my rampage roll and my kill clip roll I’ll mess around with both.
But I too have all the “new hotness” rolls on newer 120’s
BUNGIE ADD MORE VAULT SPACE FFS
I despise 120 metas can’t wait for this to be re-nerfed so have yall fun while you can
Been trying to get a rangy Air Trigger/PC and KC Crimils for awhile now😢
Air trigger + Adagio is a 2 tap at any resil .6 + fast reload
You don't need a reload to proc adagio, or do you?
@@me1203nope but the reload on crimils is terribly slow so air trigger takes away that weakness of it
Non Ximmers are getting farmed. They know it, too.
Bungie cooked making 120s 2c1b again I love my ignious but I didn't have p.i on it so my exuvie or how ever it's spelt took the top hand cannon spot for me
ain't no fucking way im loosing my youth using a 120
Can anyone confirm if its still possible to get round robin and (or) Austringer please ?
Round Robin is a drop from the Nemuna vendor forgot the dudes name. And Austringer is a drop from DMT exotic mission rotator.
Forgot to mention Combined Action with Adagio. Two tap city
Kill clip still dead, cause it 2 tap only t8 while adagio can 2 tap on all res.
Yay!
Not forgetten has Zen
no mention of Adagio :(
Sturm gang where you at?
I have never been a fan of 120s. They just don't feel "good" to me. 140s will always be my favorite.
i dont think handcannons should 2 crit, 1 body at pretty much every duling range, at every resil with the huge flinch they already have. they 100% will dominate in pvp. they have been for the longest time. handcannons should not flinch as hard as they do rn.
Eyesluna broken af
Duke mark 44 time
yo
I’m just gonna safely assume that the reason why you didn’t bring up the Duke 44 is because you don’t have one 😢 it’s still the best hc in the game I can 1tap anyone and it getting me a lot of angry salty messages that just make me 😊
Hand cannons have too much aim assist especially for peek shooting. They need to be tamed down with their accuracy cone and their ranges need to be tamed down to more weapon accurate stats. Short barrels means shorter range that should be capped at 30 meters max for 120’s but more realistically shouldn’t go past 25 meters because they’re hand cannons not shout rifles.
Isn’t this the reason bungie nerfed 120s to begin with? Its capability to 2 tap with damage perks. We’re going back to this meta that bungie didn’t like. Mark my words, this will run rampant in PvP. People thought high ground was bad with a .6 ttk. Now we’re gonna deal with .5 ttk corner peaking hand cannons 🤦🏻♂️ this literally broke PvP back then. Why are we doing this again bungie. It’s gonna get nerfed again, once everyone and they momma start using 120s
😂 wasn’t it rampage that was op? Were you not having fun in that meta?
Remember the 120 HC reign of terror from Beyond Light at launch? Those were funny times.
Sturm, felwinters, behemoth titan was a good time back then. What a time to be alive
wish bungie would delete hand cannons from the game😅
It only took a massive exodus for them to make these changes they're kidding themselves if they think anyone's coming back buncha clowns
Rip to everyone who grinded a precision instrument igneous
“It’s absolutely worth it, top choice” seems to be Cool Guys take on the perk, sounds still a great perk to have in 120s
@@MM-he2iq it's gone from a general ease of use perk to a niche anti-rift/anti-overshield perk. Still good for that specific scenario and for potentially extending your 3 tap range, but otherwise I don't think it's worth running any more since all 120s will 2c1b without it
I think this buff was unwarranted, I feel like 120s were fine
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