Hidden message when talking about Pyra: Any character that can't take advantage of her lack of speed is extremely fucked. She has amazing range and every move she has kills besides d-air on stage...which perfectly sets up for kill moves lol.
This guide did a really good job of still providing a lot of good info for not just beginners, but intermediates as well. Really liked seeing you cover some of the mental aspects of the character, like how some options can bait into things you can punish with other options. Thx VoiD
-Foward smash can 2 frame most of the cast. -Mythra's half of the up B can ledge snap. -Mythra's up smash is her fastest offensive OoS option (9 frames) -Pyra's side B wheel can 2 frame as well. -Fox trotting with Pyra is faster than running. -Pyra's bair can 2 frame. -Mythra's side B is a good tech roll in punish if u don't have enough time to react and swap. 23% dmg and sends opp in disadvantage and potentially off stage. - Her best landing move out of tumbling to avoid commiting to air dodge or teching is up air. - Pyra's B move is good for punishing tethers.
@ around 10:05 he said when neutral b is fully charged it ignores weight. More specifically it sets every character getting hit to the same weight value. This, however, is also true when it is used in the air which is what he was demonstrating but never said out right.
There is an insane amount of flexibility with these characters, you can always switch at random times to throw off whatever strategy a player uses against you. The second someone figures out what youre up to you can always reformulate and try all sorts of stuff.
@@myideology2048 Written guides online are really helpful not just videos. But modsville usa made a series I followed as well as eradicating love. Join discords and ask around
If anyone is still here, a nice mix up for Pyra on someone's shield is to full charge neutral B into spot dodge down smash. It works but don't be too predictable. When I do use this option I usually fall while charging which can leave Pyra vulnerable.
Really enjoyed this video. I like how you demonstrated a progressive methodology, showing beginner and then advanced tech. I have zero doubt this character will be nerfed hard sometime soon. But she will _always_ be a fun pick.
Great channel with really useful content. Void (and probably a few editors) made the guide feel very profesional, but also friendly to casual players who want to improve.
I like the thumbnail. Pyra looks like her usual self but Mythra looks like she needs coffee to the point she'll just chug it from the pot, no mug required.
I think it's worth noting that you can animation cancel the catch of Blazing End and save yourself 14 frames. The most notable way to do this is that the 3-frame jump squat cancels the catch directly into a jump allowing for immediate aerial follow-ups. I personally buffer spot dodge into jump to guarantee you always get a cancel since the 3 frame window is rough to time online, but it works. It's not perfectly optimal (best would be catch on the 3rd frame of the jump squat) but it's consistent. I never see Pyra players do this, which strikes me as odd since it's really strong.
I agree. She's definitely not Bayo level, but I do think without nerfs this character will centralize the meta over time She outclasses pretty much everyone
Note for Mythra’s neutral B kills. I don’t see anyone else talking about this so I’ll bring it up. Dtilt on ledge into the vacuum hit of neutral b is absolutely silly and covers DI out on dtilt when their DI doesn’t go into the charge hit box of neutral b you want to go into. You won’t be able to charge the neutral b but since you’re ending your hit with your opponent halfway quite a bit past the stage you can do some silly stuff like killing Bowser at 110
Really surprised you guys didn't put the 'let the lesson begin' Byleth taunt voice line in the intro. Still awesome! Is that look on her a mod or a model edit? Would love a mod for it.
All characters can technically perform the action, but the usefulness varies across the cast. Definitely check out this video by Beefy Smash Doods if you want to learn all about roll cancel grabs! ua-cam.com/video/y1If8eSLKwI/v-deo.html
I think Pythra is the best char in the game, or at least top 3. Mythra has insane neutral and switching to Pyra for the kill can be done so quickly. Pyra also has good ledgetrapping
@@brandonmorehouse7507 no way. They’re top 3 easily, arguably top 2. Pikachu is easily better and Joker might be better, but no other character is better than Pythra
@@brandonmorehouse7507 Check again, you actually wrote it 3 months ago. Also, the original commenter ACTUALLY wrote their comment 6 months ago, yet you decided to reply to him 3 months later. So what’s your point?
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Optimal comment
Even on youtube Gimr option selects
Same
TRUE
Agree
this channel has potential to go huge. PLEASE KEEP THE CONTENT COMING I'M LEARNING LOTS
Agreed
Hidden message when talking about Pyra: Any character that can't take advantage of her lack of speed is extremely fucked. She has amazing range and every move she has kills besides d-air on stage...which perfectly sets up for kill moves lol.
gannondorf struggles
@@Matanumi They really are pretty similar characters.
@@randumo24 it's like if ganon could turn into sheik for neutral and keep his kill power in advantage
Aegis on wifi is so terrifying.
BROOO the intro is sick everytime
I didn’t know about the dash grab/foresight tech and I main this damn character. That’s sick
This guide did a really good job of still providing a lot of good info for not just beginners, but intermediates as well.
Really liked seeing you cover some of the mental aspects of the character, like how some options can bait into things you can punish with other options. Thx VoiD
I'm just very glad that Pyra/Mythra are really good I've wanted then for around 2 almost 3 years now and I'm happy they're finally in!
I think they're a little TOO good, but we'll see :p
-Foward smash can 2 frame most of the cast.
-Mythra's half of the up B can ledge snap.
-Mythra's up smash is her fastest offensive OoS option (9 frames)
-Pyra's side B wheel can 2 frame as well.
-Fox trotting with Pyra is faster than running.
-Pyra's bair can 2 frame.
-Mythra's side B is a good tech roll in punish if u don't have enough time to react and swap. 23% dmg and sends opp in disadvantage and potentially off stage.
- Her best landing move out of tumbling to avoid commiting to air dodge or teching is up air.
- Pyra's B move is good for punishing tethers.
thanks
@ around 10:05 he said when neutral b is fully charged it ignores weight. More specifically it sets every character getting hit to the same weight value. This, however, is also true when it is used in the air which is what he was demonstrating but never said out right.
appreciate this clarification, thanks!
This was patched though, correct?
@@silksong6596 yes, it was patched out
@@e77gma alright thanks
There is an insane amount of flexibility with these characters, you can always switch at random times to throw off whatever strategy a player uses against you. The second someone figures out what youre up to you can always reformulate and try all sorts of stuff.
You dont understand how needed this was.
Man I wish there was a White/Black color alt for every character in the game
There's a modded one for pyra/mythra over on game banana
@@elijahmcgrath5918 is there a good tutorial video on how to mod your switch?
@@myideology2048 I want to know the same
@@myideology2048 Written guides online are really helpful not just videos. But modsville usa made a series I followed as well as eradicating love. Join discords and ask around
@@elijahmcgrath5918 U can only mod ur switch if U have a old switch new switches are patched
Really enjoyed this guide a lot. I think it be cool for more character based guides like this in the future. Keep up the great content.
commenting for the algorithm, great vid
Commenting because Tweek sent me. Let’s go Void!!!
If anyone is still here, a nice mix up for Pyra on someone's shield is to full charge neutral B into spot dodge down smash. It works but don't be too predictable. When I do use this option I usually fall while charging which can leave Pyra vulnerable.
Really enjoyed this video. I like how you demonstrated a progressive methodology, showing beginner and then advanced tech. I have zero doubt this character will be nerfed hard sometime soon. But she will _always_ be a fun pick.
I like the variety of good quality content. It kinda reminds me of my smash corner and the old BSD. Keep up the good work
Great channel with really useful content. Void (and probably a few editors) made the guide feel very profesional, but also friendly to casual players who want to improve.
I like the thumbnail. Pyra looks like her usual self but Mythra looks like she needs coffee to the point she'll just chug it from the pot, no mug required.
Probably the best ult guide I've seen, keep it up!
This is extremely high quality advice. Thanks!
2:00 “foresight helps with EDGEGAURDING”
Proceeds to ledgetrap and bully chrom up b
With this chanel I can go from a common masher to an educated one. Keep up the good work
Had no idea about this channel. Spread the word! This is amazing content!
Thanks VoiD and everyone else on the team for giving us these videos :)
Amazing Video, have been waiting for something like this!
Man you guys just drop amazing content!
0:48 Pyra: And I took that personally.
Void you're the best teacher I have to learn more about Edgeguarding thanks for this video
I don't even know how foresight works, yet I'm still watching.
I think it's worth noting that you can animation cancel the catch of Blazing End and save yourself 14 frames. The most notable way to do this is that the 3-frame jump squat cancels the catch directly into a jump allowing for immediate aerial follow-ups. I personally buffer spot dodge into jump to guarantee you always get a cancel since the 3 frame window is rough to time online, but it works. It's not perfectly optimal (best would be catch on the 3rd frame of the jump squat) but it's consistent.
I never see Pyra players do this, which strikes me as odd since it's really strong.
Best guide on these two yet!
who else didn't realize only Mythra has fore sight?
That dash grab roll option select is great to know
Fantastic guide, you can tell VoiD did a lot of research beforehand.
this is very helpful, thanks
Been maiming these two since release! Thanks for the guide!!
This channel is super helpful. Thanks for the help!
Void is my favorite to watch, I love how techs are included in the video!
Extremely clear. Thanks!
The pinnacle of DLC privilege
I agree. She's definitely not Bayo level, but I do think without nerfs this character will centralize the meta over time
She outclasses pretty much everyone
Amazing video! (Tweek sent me)
Loved the guide, so glad this channel is a thing!
This is amazing
Superb video; I learned a lot from this!
Note for Mythra’s neutral B kills. I don’t see anyone else talking about this so I’ll bring it up. Dtilt on ledge into the vacuum hit of neutral b is absolutely silly and covers DI out on dtilt when their DI doesn’t go into the charge hit box of neutral b you want to go into. You won’t be able to charge the neutral b but since you’re ending your hit with your opponent halfway quite a bit past the stage you can do some silly stuff like killing Bowser at 110
This is such a great idea. I would to see guides for all the other characters too.
Best smash content I live for
Those black and white costumes look so cool!
This guide is amazing! thank you!
Ima fail the FORK out of this class. I want to learn but I'm too new. It sounds very informative. I'm just dumb.
Very informative! Tweek sent me
Thanks for the video! It taught me a lot :)
Really nice video idea
Amazing guide. Subscribed
This vid is akin to an insane guitarist video with 'tablature in the description'
Let’s gooooo thank you for this
great video!! small thing though, you might want to update the chapters because the "Recovery" section isn't split off from the "Juggling" section!
Commenting for algorithm, this guide is really really good
Bro I so hope I see you with these characters in tournies
Amazing video, commentating for the yt algorithm
Thanks for the guide. Looking forward to locals using this character.
Roll cancel grab/foresight option select? Definitely going to learn this
Mythra is plus on whiff.
For real... it's Sheik with a sword... who also turns into Ganon for smash attacks
Very valuable lesson
This character is ridiculous!!
Underrated channel
I didn't know who these characters were and will never play the game they're from but holy shit they are so very fun to play
This was very helpful thx
Love the content!!
Thanks for the video, a lot of good information. Haircut
Thanks. Now I can spam Mythra’s side b and win every game.
Love hearing void commentate these :)
Saw pyra and mythra so I clicked.
Hope y'all grow
Can’t wait to see offline tourneys to do crazy stuff with them cuz they kinda struggle online rn
You struggle online
I mean spargo has been bopping everyone with them
Wait this is so quality
these guides are awesome! Banjo next?? :D
great guide
quite possibly the best algorithm comment
Love the video thanks
very great tutorial
LEGO VOID!
no way it's down air the character
Wtf didn't even know roll-cancelled pivot grab was a thing!
Sick vid
Really surprised you guys didn't put the 'let the lesson begin' Byleth taunt voice line in the intro. Still awesome! Is that look on her a mod or a model edit? Would love a mod for it.
I want a cloud guide from Void.
Thanks Tweek
Can't wait to learn how to play these girls properly! I love them so much thanks to their original game
The Weeknd sure knows a lot about this game.
Hopefully this'll help me learn to beat this damn character lol
Ok😅
Dude, video just gonna make the Pyra/Mythra mains better than you. Just give up.
So to clarify, at 4:29, can only Mythra do a roll cancel pivot grab? Or is this tech applicable to Pyra as well?
All characters can technically perform the action, but the usefulness varies across the cast. Definitely check out this video by Beefy Smash Doods if you want to learn all about roll cancel grabs! ua-cam.com/video/y1If8eSLKwI/v-deo.html
@@FGCUniversity not only did you clarify, but you sent me a link that provides further clarification? Damn we love to see it, thanks SU!
So much sauce
Well my finals are finish.....back to playing smash.
Dair to grab is great at low percents with Mythra!
Thanks
I think Pythra is the best char in the game, or at least top 3. Mythra has insane neutral and switching to Pyra for the kill can be done so quickly. Pyra also has good ledgetrapping
Top ten at best
@@brandonmorehouse7507 no way. They’re top 3 easily, arguably top 2. Pikachu is easily better and Joker might be better, but no other character is better than Pythra
@@ha5541 bruh I wrote that six months ago
@@brandonmorehouse7507 Check again, you actually wrote it 3 months ago. Also, the original commenter ACTUALLY wrote their comment 6 months ago, yet you decided to reply to him 3 months later. So what’s your point?
Good video
I love VoiD