The neat thing about the D-05 is that it is a recreation of a digital synth in the first place. The polyphony is 16 notes which is 4 times of some of the other boutiques. I have the D-05 and the JUO6A and they’re really great.
Why do people insist on trying to do comparisons of digital vs. digital? The only difference is the DACs, from what I was able to hear, (before I packed up my D-50 for good and sent it off to cold storage), Roland has managed to emulate the noise of the original D-50 DACs almost perfectly.
I'm not hearing too much of a difference... as far as I'm concerned, if it sounds good to you, then by god get it, and half fun with it. Now you've got me looking into a D-05!
has the D05 already been discontinued? Doesn't appear to be listed for sale on any UK stores and there's precious few listed new/used on eBay. What went wrong? Can Andertons recommend a good/cheap polyphonic synth/sound module instead of this?
Don't discount the D-05 so quickly, I have one (that I actually bought from Andertons). To compare it with the original D50 it's always going to sound slightly different, as it's an emulation. However, it's an instrument in it's own right and it does have a fabulous (and still unique) sound. I like to hook it up to an arpeggiator with a more complex sound selected and then alter the partial balance using the joystick. Using it like this it can give my modular a run for it's money in terms of the sounds it can produce! Not only that it's so much fun :D (a point in case being I went to bed at 3am last night doing just this). Please try one out before judging. Also, Andertons have just the best keyboard department :)
great video! Thank you, very informative! Could you please, tell me how can I connect the Roland D-05 to the Roland VR-09 so that it can be controlled from the VR-09?
Anderton's, I love your videos, from all the departments. But please, please get better at normalizing the sound between playing and talking! Usually the playing is way too loud compared to the talking parts, but in this one it's the other way around. Otherwise, thanks for all the great content :-)
Yeah used gear is garbage. Everyone should just buy everything brand new and stop fiddling around with classic instruments. In fact, once something is a year old, just toss it in the trash and go buy a new one!
just saying that same price for a D50 as the D-05 isn't that simple a choice...you get no warranty, you can't check everything before you buy it, it is 'cool' though... i still have a yamaha RX5 from 1987 that works fine for example and a korg DDD1 drum computer too which is fine except the battery has gone recently so it forgets all patterns. with second hand you take a risk..sometimes it turns out perfect other times..not so much.
Around 6:00 or so in, he mentions how he is playing the boutique version but not getting the aftertouch. Even if you're not holding a key down and pressing with all your weight, the original D-50 is going to register a slight pressure along with velocity for that little aftertouch kick. Only way to know for sure is to put a midi cable between the two and an A-B switch for their audio outs. Then compare the same sounds back to back to see how close/far the 05 is to the 50. I expect some extra dirt and possible good distortion from the DAC and other amp components in the original, where the 05 will have a new cleaner DAC I'm guessing. For the price and reliability, not to mention the studio real estate the original takes up, the 05 is more than passable. The original boutiques were slight misses with their polyphony, but it looks like Roland listened to the complaints and are making true re-issues.
You are 100% right about the after touch. The only time I noticed a difference in this video was when he was stabbing down on the keyboard no doubt getting a hair of after touch with the og. I do not get why he didn't run midi out of the d50 into the d05
10:50 that PizzaGoGo sounded a lot brighter and a lot more spacious on the original D-50. D-05 felt somewhat compressed. The D-05 sound is better when you want to master I guess as you can add your own reverb and stuff. The D-50 felt like a complete sound though. Overall the D-05 is a marvelous machine and the new functionality i great. The size format is really neat as well as you can easily have it on your desk next to your main midi board. For me though I want the full hardware experience of the D-50 and that is why I am picking one up next week.
Fun to play with the ribbon controller as it'll do if nothing is plugged in. It looks good, feels solid, sounds fine to me, and has new reliability and size. Unlike the Reface DX, it doesn't seem like a lite version of the classic. It feels like a small version of the classic. A-OK.
Did you ever find the octave switch, Jack? Is there one? I have a feeling there isn't. The D-50 panel didn't have one, presumably, so they didn't add one on the D-05, and the little 2 octave keyboard doesn't come with one. I think I may have spotted why the original was better :)
People talk about old gear sucks. I bought a D50 new 30 years ago and it was stolen in September of 2012. Except for scratches on the case it worked perfectly. I miss it. About 2 years prior to this post I bought the D05 It is awesome. My fave digitals were and are the D50 And Korg wavestation I lost all in 2012 But over last few years I got a wavestation A/D and the aforementioned D05 I have some analogs ( the Behringer DM12 being God like) And got a Yamaha SY35 to control the Wavestation ( joystick) And s few others I would get s D50 again in a second but the D50 fills the need I like to use a 61 key controller with it as the original had 61 Love my linear arithmetic lovenesd
I often hook up my hardware DX7 as left and KQ Dixie or Dexed as right and play the app with the real one's keyboard. Now that's cool. My DX7 was out of tune and I couldn't get it right, now it's in the shop and wouldn't boot. With that difference in tuning, it made a phasing effect that was super fun.
you know ... somehow he is right. D50, DX7 ... even M1 got little bit old now and sounds are not that exciting anymore. What's the point to rebuild a synth with different technology ?
The neat thing about the D-05 is that it is a recreation of a digital synth in the first place. The polyphony is 16 notes which is 4 times of some of the other boutiques. I have the D-05 and the JUO6A and they’re really great.
Why do people insist on trying to do comparisons of digital vs. digital? The only difference is the DACs, from what I was able to hear, (before I packed up my D-50 for good and sent it off to cold storage), Roland has managed to emulate the noise of the original D-50 DACs almost perfectly.
And comparing at different level volume,anyway…. There is a difference in the DACs yes..some patches are noticeable different others not.
I'm not hearing too much of a difference... as far as I'm concerned, if it sounds good to you, then by god get it, and half fun with it.
Now you've got me looking into a D-05!
has the D05 already been discontinued? Doesn't appear to be listed for sale on any UK stores and there's precious few listed new/used on eBay. What went wrong? Can Andertons recommend a good/cheap polyphonic synth/sound module instead of this?
Generally I think all the Boutiques were marketed as ‘limited edition’ by Roland.
Don't discount the D-05 so quickly, I have one (that I actually bought from Andertons). To compare it with the original D50 it's always going to sound slightly different, as it's an emulation. However, it's an instrument in it's own right and it does have a fabulous (and still unique) sound. I like to hook it up to an arpeggiator with a more complex sound selected and then alter the partial balance using the joystick. Using it like this it can give my modular a run for it's money in terms of the sounds it can produce! Not only that it's so much fun :D (a point in case being I went to bed at 3am last night doing just this). Please try one out before judging. Also, Andertons have just the best keyboard department :)
You went to bed at 3am..? #lightweight ;)
I wonder if Pizza GoGo do an Orinoco Flow pizza? As long as it wasn't festooned with lumps of Womble, I reckon I'd give it a try.
great video! Thank you, very informative! Could you please, tell me how can I connect the Roland D-05 to the Roland VR-09 so that it can be controlled from the VR-09?
Anderton's, I love your videos, from all the departments. But please, please get better at normalizing the sound between playing and talking! Usually the playing is way too loud compared to the talking parts, but in this one it's the other way around.
Otherwise, thanks for all the great content :-)
Why didn't you connect midi and use the same keybed?
Johnny Moser he said in the video that he couldn’t get it working.
so he has no idea of midi or the d50's midi is broken...that's 30 year old synths with no warranty for you.
Yeah used gear is garbage. Everyone should just buy everything brand new and stop fiddling around with classic instruments. In fact, once something is a year old, just toss it in the trash and go buy a new one!
just saying that same price for a D50 as the D-05 isn't that simple a choice...you get no warranty,
you can't check everything before you buy it, it is 'cool' though...
i still have a yamaha RX5 from 1987 that works fine for example and a korg DDD1 drum computer too which is fine except the battery has gone recently so it forgets all patterns.
with second hand you take a risk..sometimes it turns out perfect other times..not so much.
1:26 ...Used in the Wonderland Entertainment Ltd jingle
Around 6:00 or so in, he mentions how he is playing the boutique version but not getting the aftertouch. Even if you're not holding a key down and pressing with all your weight, the original D-50 is going to register a slight pressure along with velocity for that little aftertouch kick. Only way to know for sure is to put a midi cable between the two and an A-B switch for their audio outs. Then compare the same sounds back to back to see how close/far the 05 is to the 50. I expect some extra dirt and possible good distortion from the DAC and other amp components in the original, where the 05 will have a new cleaner DAC I'm guessing.
For the price and reliability, not to mention the studio real estate the original takes up, the 05 is more than passable. The original boutiques were slight misses with their polyphony, but it looks like Roland listened to the complaints and are making true re-issues.
You are 100% right about the after touch. The only time I noticed a difference in this video was when he was stabbing down on the keyboard no doubt getting a hair of after touch with the og. I do not get why he didn't run midi out of the d50 into the d05
10:50 that PizzaGoGo sounded a lot brighter and a lot more spacious on the original D-50. D-05 felt somewhat compressed. The D-05 sound is better when you want to master I guess as you can add your own reverb and stuff. The D-50 felt like a complete sound though. Overall the D-05 is a marvelous machine and the new functionality i great. The size format is really neat as well as you can easily have it on your desk next to your main midi board. For me though I want the full hardware experience of the D-50 and that is why I am picking one up next week.
This might be the D-50 reissue second time over. The first time it was on the VC-1 PCMCIA card for the VariOS and V-Synth.
Fun to play with the ribbon controller as it'll do if nothing is plugged in. It looks good, feels solid, sounds fine to me, and has new reliability and size. Unlike the Reface DX, it doesn't seem like a lite version of the classic. It feels like a small version of the classic. A-OK.
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Did you ever find the octave switch, Jack? Is there one?
I have a feeling there isn't. The D-50 panel didn't have one, presumably, so they didn't add one on the D-05, and the little 2 octave keyboard doesn't come with one. I think I may have spotted why the original was better :)
No problem. I think by only using the dedicated keyboard, you made a useful point - that thing's a waste of money, for the D-05.
The patch at 2:28 reminds me of the opening to Gary Numan - Cars .
Link to that super usefull sound module tray? Pleeeeeease ;)
Do they both have the same number of voices? (Some of the Boutique range only have 4, whereas the originals have double that)
D-05 has 16 voices just like the original D-50 and D-550 :-))
This is the area where the original (vintage) digital synths sounds warmer than the remake !
You couldn't do a MIDI sync?
Then it would become unclear which synth is currently active.
orinico flow.... how does he match the patch to the song so quickly?
Did you mean Orinoco Flow ?
It's the reverb
- the Reverb on the D-05 sounds more like the reverb on the original D-10
- you can hear it looping ;)
Curious to see how the Enya cover band musicians feel about this
как можно сравнивать без динами нажатия звук? =)
He tries so hard to talk up the boutique and then right at the end he gives in lol
Relax dude it’s a d50
excelente
Excellent vid Jack
People talk about old gear sucks.
I bought a D50 new 30 years ago and it was stolen in September of 2012.
Except for scratches on the case it worked perfectly.
I miss it.
About 2 years prior to this post I bought the D05
It is awesome.
My fave digitals were and are the D50
And Korg wavestation
I lost all in 2012
But over last few years I got a wavestation A/D and the aforementioned D05
I have some analogs ( the Behringer DM12 being God like)
And got a Yamaha SY35 to control the Wavestation ( joystick)
And s few others
I would get s D50 again in a second but the D50 fills the need I like to use a 61 key controller with it as the original had 61
Love my linear arithmetic lovenesd
maybe he could have connected the two synths together if he hadn't spent so long talking about how he couldn't do it. the process takes five minutes
I often hook up my hardware DX7 as left and KQ Dixie or Dexed as right and play the app with the real one's keyboard. Now that's cool. My DX7 was out of tune and I couldn't get it right, now it's in the shop and wouldn't boot. With that difference in tuning, it made a phasing effect that was super fun.
Keyboard action on the D-50 is really good. Still my go to keyboard for playing rack gear. Quite unlike those silly mini keys on the Boutiques.
Cheers, didn't know that :)
David Jazay I love the d50 keybed and my DX7iifd buts a bit noisey
The action is good, the aftertouch - like on all Roland synths - isn‘t. You have to drop a tank on the keys to activate it.
cool stuff ..
10 min 50sec...different octaves..um
Nice
Admitiendo: No gastes tu dinero en d05 compra el original viene a decir eso y yo como ex usuario de un d05 digo lo mismo
Unda da seeee
why are you trying to sell used equipment to us???
The D50 sounds loads better. So much for modern technology lol
I'm glad that my D-50 and D-500 haven't lost 90% of their value after this video xD
They sound identical.
Mono audio? Seriously?? Fuckin' pointless.
Stop waffling and just get on with it.
The boutique version sounds like shit and the original still sounds like shit.
And your post reads like...argh, why am I talking to you?
you know ... somehow he is right. D50, DX7 ... even M1 got little bit old now and sounds are not that exciting anymore. What's the point to rebuild a synth with different technology ?
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