That woman who thinks she's from the US and says that wages are never equitable and that women are under oppression and that they're doing worse and they're declining has never bothered to read the graduation rates and the hiring rates for corporations and universities in United States. She's the one living in a bubble and it's a bubble of self delusion and idiocy.
I've lived my entire life in the US and I've never once met any woman who has said or thought any of those crazy things you just threw out there lol. It sounds like women just don't like you and it's easy to see why lol and you're bitter about it lol. Maybe a small minority of crazed extreme feminists think some of those things. But I've never heard or personally known one woman who thinks any of those things.
That's when you realize she's a brainless Liberal who doesn't get to think for herself unless she gets the approval from Democratic women politicians like Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi and AOC. That's them female politicians holding their patriarchy over that woman in the yellow blouse. What did she think she will get a free pass just because she's a woman too? Dream on Lady! Those three Democratic women politicians live off the capitalism in America as they proudly support it. Money is what makes them rich and stay in power and Democratic women voters in America put them in at position. Now try squeezing some money out of them?
@@Cazador60140 honestly, I have a cousin that did the sex change thing in 1979, my youngest son is gay, this is not about that, it about a group of people trying to force feed their ideals to everybody and make people believe what they believe, true or not
@@IvyMay-qn2ysNot really. Maybe some. But most were a little thing called 'Entertainment'. Any propaganda in film up until the last decade or so wasn't as overt as it is now also.
Even if equal pay would exist, people would still choose something to complain about because we trained our minds to complain. You can not have equal pay, as you can not have equal beauty, equal intelligence, equal talent, equal charisma, equal values. Corruption would exist anyway. Life isn't bout equality, therefore, we should have a sense of humor and embrace and enjoy the differences in life. In nature, the birds don't argue with lions about equality. But I agree that if a woman is talented and passionate about her hobbies she has something to offer for example in music or arts. But it depends if the art isn't too much supported by some artificial artistic values like software editing. some movies seem too edited by the software that it's hard to see the human value of the movies. Beautiful people should appreciate intelligent people and their charisma. Intelligent people should appreciate beautiful people and their charisma. Ordinary people should appreciate charismatic people and charismatic people should appreciate ordinary people and their values. It's the values that people teach the kids.
I don't like the fact that if they reverse everything backward, they don't allow women to be themselves and be decently elegant, but also they don't allow the men to be themselves and like their own image. Men wear what they want to wear, not what someone tells them to wear. But it's better if humans wear decent clothes. Classy clothes are very attractive.
I didn't see the movie, but from the clips I gather the "humor" consisted of some novel physical comedic devices. That shows where we are as far as humor. It will prove to be unwatchable in 5 years and fall into the same category as Who Framed Roger Rabbit? that also made a lot in the box office, but was really a bad movie, but had novel comedic devices as well.
Because Barbie the bimbo doll has always been a social statement. The fact the women have no idea or understanding of this is just typical of most modern women. The "guests" are nothing more than useful idiots.
Because they are on the mission to ruin everything people used to like. Won't stop until they rewrite everything out there. It's like the same people (those Netflix/Netflix like writers, with their black Cleopatra) are rewriting history in last couple of decades, including Ukr one, and are doing w@r propaganda for them.
Barbie was always socially influenced to a degree...think about all the professional Barbies over the years. That's why the feminism angle even makes sense for such a movie
That's right. I'm a woman from Iran, now a US citizen. I will NEVER say I'm disadvantaged in the US. I have more rights and opportunity than I ever would have elsewhere
Haha this is a perfect example how perfectly hopeless our modern generation is. Seriously Barbie the number one movie. The western world is seriously falling into the abyss
I absolutely did not want to go and watch this movie, girlfriend basically dragged me, and my opinion was already biased from media and chit chat online. I Left at the end of the movie with a sour feeling and not for the reasons was expecting going in. I was surprised at some role reversal and some layers of critique that people seem to miss both on the left and the right, there's more depth to it than what's immediately apparent and the movie proved to me we are all too far into our own politics and "confirmation bias" through the things we experience daily to feel better about ourselves, unable to actually pay attention to what's in front of us. I went in expecting feminist propaganda and instead I feel like I watched quite something else. If anything it satirizes both the feminist and the red pill movement. It's more ambiguous than you think. There is another message there that isn't immediately obvious and I would suggest people to watch it, and pay attention past the surface. That said, the movie is number one for all the wrong reasons, and I'm sure all my blue and pink haired co-spectators missed the point entirely.
It was an attack on capitalism ? I haven’t seen the movie but Barbie was made to make money: there wasn’t just Barbie but also her car, her house, her vast wardrobe , plus Ken and Skipper…
Fighting patriarchal capitalism : "I need every pink, shiny sh out there, I don't really need, but will look good owning it, mostly to make my Barbie friends jealous, and their Ken's secretly desiring me, instead of them. And remember girls, strong women wear their outfits only once. You don't want Barbies, Ken's of the world to think you are some poor peasant who can't buy new clothes every other day. So, down with capitalism! Down with patriarchy! Fight for your right to buy more of unnecessary, pink, shiny sh, you'll be amused with for a day or two, put it aside and forget you even bought it! ✊🏼"
Have you ever watched the kids channel. The biggest toy marketers . Barbie was always promoted, her stuff , made girl girly and having a childhood. Barbie helped Bob Mackie 's fashion . Then we had the Bratz fad thennothers. For younger Cabbage Patch ( got the founder from poverty)
"women are losing fundamental rights left and right" How can these people lie so egregiously, unless she was from Afghanistan this is simply and fundamentally a lie to support her lack of motivation to do better than others in life.
She is more than happy to let men enter women's spaces and wear women face. The woman doesn't know what oppression is. Go to Afghanistan where women and girls are prevented from basic rights like getting an education, go to India where recently 2 women were paraded naked and gang raped in a field, in Iran where women aren't treated like human beings. That bimbo's "human rights" would probably be having an issue with a man opening a door for her because of "patriarchy"
When I was young, it was all about Barbie and her friends. We didn’t even know what patriarchy was. Ken was a side note, with plastic hair. Never even had him.
I was always taught that you respect women despite what they do or say- there was always a price to pay if that rule were to be broken. Women already had control, but they wanted soyboy freaks, so they pushed normies like me away, and now when I see you in public, I thank God that you cheated.
My daughters had a vintage Ken from a yard sale who was a tad better than the 2000's version, but to be sure I bought them one of the reissued 12" G.I.Joes to make sure no one broke into the townhouse. He had a confiscated German jeep with a machinegun to patrol the neighborhood for Polly Pocket and the Bratz.
That whole monologue by the mother in the movie can just as easily replaced with all the dualities and hardships MEN face! They have to be over 6" and make a million a year minimum, or they're completely written off as dating material, they're expected to approach women yet if they do they're creeps/stalkers, girls are girlbosses and need no man but the men are still expected to pay for everything like dates. Women cry about being the oppressed ones yet men are the majority of homeless, deaths on jobs, su*cides, homicide victims etc... I can go on for ages!
Marilyn Monroe was absolutely a troubled drug addicted mess for most of her celebrity career. We don’t talk about that though because, “Yaaaaas queen, Omg she’s perfect and sexy and a lady boss.” I don’t disagree on how influential and captivating she is especially for the women’s history and new age movements. But don’t deny blatant facts to fit your agenda.
She was heavily manipulated by the men around her, which I imagine a lot of so-called girl bosses are experiencing in private. SMH This new feminism is a HUGE SET UP.
I am a woman and I will say that women can be incredibly manipulative and combative. Patriarchy and Matriarchy need to transition to include more equality of both genders.
I agree. I wish this stupid debate over patriarchy means men and matriarchy means women would stop. It’s an absurd argument. We need each other to have a world that works. Men and women both suffer under patriarchy because it is a system not a gender!! No wonder we are still where we are!! It’s time to stop standing in our corners and start working together to bring down a system of control and domination that is effected by men and women alike and suffered by men and women alike! I long for the day when we start listening to each other instead of being righteous about our own opinions and experiences as if they are the only truth
@@sharlene44 Didn't a study in 2017 or 2019 find that woman rulers throughout history actually committed 27% more wars than their male rulers counterparts?
@@furonbrainiac6634 I honestly don’t know - thanks for pointing me to it, I’ll have a look. But if so, it only confirms my argument that this is not about men and women… 🤷♀️
Awful movie. My little granddaughter was so disappointed and said she didn’t understand it. Margo and Ryan were sooo old to play Barbie and Ken. Leave the kids stuff alone and let them have fairytale experiences. We all grow up and know they’re not real. This is just culture cancelling and utter rubbish. Even the adults came out of the movie confused.
Why are they so obsessed with everyone being equal when they're clearly not? As long as they are equal under the law? I'm a musician and I can assure you we're not all equal. The better ones tend to be the ones who work the hardest.
Breaking records! What about Sound of Freedom, which was made on a budget of 14 million and has broken all records, even though most of you haven't heard of it. It's number 3 on the box office and made over 100 million in it's first week. You can't even view it at the movies here in NZ because it is too close to the truth. I think all this bs about barbie, is exactly that bs!
Gotta turn the neck of society so everyone focuses on the next big outrage and forget about what they were previously talking about. The media has been doing that for years.
Genuinely, women can't flick a switch and get electricity, or turn a tap and see water without men. That's OK we don't mind doing the vast majority of the dirty dangerous jobs without which would have us back to third world standards in a day, we just get pissed off at it never being acknowledged or worse in the case of feminists, denied.
And every female ran tribe in Africa. Don't think we forgot about "Woman King". You know, the "girl boss" who butchered another tribe to steal their slaves for her own use.
The lady in pink is correct imo, barbie is just a doll to play with. For children to project from their own imaginations and role play. Not for the doll manufacturers to tell you how or what to imagine when a child plays with them. They’re a foil for creative play, not indoctrination. Also if the matriarchy in Crete was so successful-then where is that society now? Why couldn’t it endure if it was so successful? A lot of this stuff about Women -is other women making stereotypes, while simultaneously railing against that.
I can't believe she brought up the equal pay BS again. It was written into law back in the 60s that employers have to pay men and women doing the same job the same rate. 🙄
@@Hussman493 Right on. While I was working in a restaurant I always had the most amount of tips from all the waiters which were mostly woman. Not all but some told me it wasn't fair I got more tips then them. But than I had to explain them that's because I worked about 55+ hours a week and they were there for maybe 32... And with that said, there were also some girls that made around the 40 hours, but in general if you looked at the average of hours worked by the men and by the woman the men were around the 50 hours a week and the woman came in around 36.
@@eddielvis98 Yeah. I've seen similar numbers in every job I've worked. Security was the worst I've seen. Always leaving two hours early, leaving post abandoned. I counted how many guards did that. 14 in 4 years. All female guards. I'm not hating on women. I'm simply looking at patterns.
I will never see the Barbie film. I already had my suspicions about it without even seeing a trailer. Disgusting to hear it indeed is more woke garbage and that millions are falling for it.
I gave it a chance and watched it last night and was pleasantly surprised. I would say it's actually anti-woke if anything. It's a satire that criticizes everyone, the matriarchy and patriarchy with a positive message at the end. It began by saying girls can do more than just being mums and ends by saying we don't have to always be extraordinary and is ok to just want to be a mum and have an ordinary life. Definitely not for kids though, it's made for adult women who used to be girls. It reminded me of chick flicks made in the early 2000s like mean girls and legally blonde. It's silly, fun, and tells people not to be so codependent on others for their self-worth and esteem. Something people seem to be lacking these days. All in all, it's a good movie worth the watch if you grew up playing with Barbie.
Don't forget that this is a "show" above all and the discussions wouldn't be interesting to follow without the divergent views. At the end of the day, the panelists are all friendly with each other and they discuss their performance over drinks where Pierce picks up the tab.
@@hottuna2006 Well for fun they should display a big disclaimer across the screen that a feminist is in the building and her views will be mostly lies mixed in with some historical facts. That would make a great show.
I love Esther! She always has great things to say, and rarely, if ever, misses a beat! That other one? Difficult to listen to her! She hurts my ears, just trying to listen….ugh! 🤣🤣🤣
Okay, the woman who claimed there was a Greek island that had a matriarchal government and they had no wars, and more democracy. Cool beans, my question becomes, “If they had such a successful governance, where are they now?” Seems to me if it was such a successful government, it should have grown, and become a dominant way of doing things. I would also like to point out countries who have had successful females running the government had no problem going to war, Margret Thatcher, Katherine the Great, Queen Victoria, Queen Isabella of Spain, just to name a few.
I will always stand by my belief that "Patriarchy protects and sustains the family." And "Patriarchy and Matriarchy can both exist in one family." "Matriarchy nurtures and nourishes the family "
Love how Esther is dressed like THAT, yet she+her words still come across completely dignified, respectable, and profound…. unlike the Sussexes even when they’re perfectly styled, put together, and wearing expensive upscale clothing/accessories. (I know that’s totally off topic haha. But for some reason, throughout the whole video I just kept thinking about it)
Yes she set the tone for what I thought the movie was about, satire. Those housing sets are totally impractical but a young girl playing with a doll does not consider such logistics
It's Barbie who incites the war between the Kens as a distraction while Barbie organises to rig an election. Barbie is the antagonist in her own movie.
There is a small town in my state that had lots of problems. They did vote in ALL women to run the town. Nothing changed. The female reporter presenting the story claimed that they inherited the problems, so they were not able to change them. Why not? That just sounds like making excuses, and I do know that women can do things. The woman on this show was saying that with women in charge, there wouldn't be wars, etc. She needs to do some research. Is there a place that does have all women in charge? Were they successful? If so, how and why? It's nice to imagine a happy place, but she would be wiser to do some research before going on a TV show without real facts.
I (male) worked alongside mostly female nurses for over four decades. Do a halfway realistic on that and there will be no controversy about the power of women.
I know it is a double standard...and yet all lib women do is talk about how men get paid more. The opposite is true. I'm sick of it...I cant get a job cuz fat women are in charge of everythin . Ughhhh
All this "women vs men", "right vs left" or "us vs them" is counter-productive. We all know it's so important to find a common ground if we are to solve our big problems and yet this bickering and polarization is always going to prevent that.
It should be for kids. Ken was very important during playing with Barbie when I was young, cause every little girl dreams about falling in love. That’s what little girls and even grown women dream of.
Julia Gillard she was a waste of space ,plus Jacinda Ardern of NZ resigned before Getting kicked out Women would cause more wars if in charge Imo because they are catty and nasty b**** 😮
I was a massive supporter of Gillard at first (my local MP), but she's turned into a professional victim. And her Labor party continues to support overrated and under qualified female candidates.
I'm a woman and I find myself to be pretty girlie, aesthetically speaking. With that said, I'm a country girl and if you think that my temper wouldn't ever make me go to war with another country (if I ran the country) then these women are sadly mistaken 😅 pushed into a corner, I will come out swinging for real. So it's bull that I have heard this from women throughout the years. That if women ran the world, there would be no war, Malarkey!!! 😂 maybe possibly liberal women wouldn't go to war, but then again seems like they are more violent than they say so 😂
"a different way to conduct conflict" is a very suspicious open meaning statement. it could cover sins worse than any known warfare yet used. capitalism is why we have advanced this far and climate change crisis is a left wing socialist fed mind game as a means to oppress the poor in the west. no one is trying to change china's energy policies by protesting china are they?
If women where in charge we wouldn't be so advanced technology wise. Everything we use is created by a men and assembled by men. Women these days. Stunning and brave
Only takes a comparison of a male dominated industry vs a female one to see men are successful, productive and advanced and women are chaotic, disorganised, over spend and bitchy
It's the woman who think they are equal to men physically that are part of the problem...why can't women be happy to be equal but in different ways....let woman do what they're good at .. and the same for men... instead of competing all the time...and solely women running the country would be a disaster.....I don't know what women have ever invented if anything...but we definitely know men have invented everything that has changed the world...
They really need to go back and make a REAL Barbie movie for all the little girls out there who love their Barbie dolls. And younger actors all around, please.
@@stevewiles7132 That’s beside the point. Russia had joined the war. The only stumbling block was unconditional surrender. All important US generals thought it was unnecessary to use the bombs.
@@jamesmorrow1646Have you studied it in depth, James? I do suspect there is a fair bit of “Monday morning quarterbacking” going on, on this admittedly vexed issue. Also, if the Allies had relied on the Russian advance in 1945, there wouldn’t be North and South Korea. Korea would be 100% Stalinist and there would be “North and South Japan” , with the former being a staunch ally of the USSR. That scenario would see a far poorer, tenser world with a higher risk of subsequent nuclear conflict. Truman did the right thing.
As a woman I can say if we’d sent women to fight the Germans and Japanese, we’d all be speaking some weird conglomeration of both of those languages now..
The Barbie Wedding Doll costs $29.99 but if you buy The Divorced Barbie Doll they cost $4999.99. That's because Divorced Barbie comes with Ken's House, Ken's Car, Ken's Boat, Ken's Gym, Ken's Kids and Ken's dog!!!! 😂😂😂
People need to look at Barbie through a child's eyes, not as adults. I'm 56. When I was about 7, I started playing with Barbie. I played with Barbie until I was probably around 12. My Barbies didn't even have a Ken for the longest time because Ken was just EWWW. You couldn't put him in frilly dresses or brush his hair. Plus, at that age, boys had cooties. Piers, just drop the whole Barbie thing. I saw the movie and it was spot on with how little girls view Barbie and her accessories. Barbie was great for imagination. The doll did not inspire me to hate or bash men or grow up and run the world.
Capitalism is patriarchy?! Ok, so let’s break this statement down logically. - By the lady’s admission, Margot Robbie is a beautiful actress hence people will come to see the film, and “that’s capitalism” is, I’m pretty sure, what she said. So, the capitalist system which benefits beautiful and talented people such as her, allowing her to be a lead actress and to have opportunities 99.99% of men (and women foe that matter) could only ever dream of is “patriarchal”? - Similarly, male actors such as Ryan Gosling have big box office pull because millions of women are going to choose to go and watch a film with him in it, is also capitalism. In this case, we have a man with life opportunities that only 99.99% of men could only dream of, because women are free to choose to go and watch a movie with him in it, and thus helping to set the market. Once again, this seems like a capitalist style version of democracy where the beautiful and talented get ahead, not “patriarchy”. - Let’s compare this to most non-Democratic nations where significant structural gender inequalities still exist. Where most women are not well educated, and many are functionally illiterate and/or severely mistreated. But somehow it’s the capitalist system that is “patriarchy”?! That all being said, I’m not a big fan of the capitalist system in its current form. Socioeconomic inequality is higher than ever before, and the rich are robbing from the poor and working people more and more every year, we all saw what happened during Covid. Also, the current trend of countries placing more restrictions on travel is quite disturbing, i.e. “fifteen minute cities” and the new passports required to enter Europe. hopefully we don’t see a return to the old feudal system days where most people weren’t allowed to travel out of their own village. Personally, I quite like the Scandinavian style social Democratic model, basically any that believes in treating people with fairness and dignity. Much better than the current state of affairs where the combination of the rise of social media, rampant capitalism and a decline in religiosity have led to people being treated as commodities, and if you’re seeing as not having as much to offer or you don’t look the right way, you’re treated like garbage. All the while halfwits like Ryan Taylor can get away with being as rude as f..k because society lauds them as “winners” because he was on cough cough…”love island”, while decent, honest people (especially if they’re men) are treated as “losers”. Lord help us. Capitalism definitely has quite a bit to answer for.
The first one is correct though, men and women do solve conflicts differently. The problem with her thinking that "wars wouldn't happen" if women were in charge is that the female way of solving problems breaks down the moment all parties aren't subscribing to uncompetitive, risk-averse solutions. As soon as someone decides to just TAKE something because they can, matriarchal solutions fall apart. The best society would ideally have a mix of both the patriarchal and matriarchal, separately governing what they're best at while pushing society forward together.
You only begin to touch on the complexities involved in such an idea as what it would be like if women ran the world. Jordan Peterson would have a field day out of this, and have both of those women for lunch, not Esther, she the only one making sense, of the panel. The people who run the world will always be the most aggressive ones, which stops the entire concept of the people who run the world could do it peacefully. Just as u said.
As a woman, you would have to give me a LOT of money to go to this "movie", or as I call it, "a piece of sh*t". When I was a girl, I wanted to play catch with any kind of ball, or have a motorcycle, something I had to work my dad over hard for several years before he finally gave in for my 13th birthday. When he was doing fieldwork, he got to see some of the fun things I did which he didn't think was a good idea. His exact words were "Don't you dare let your mother know what you're doing on that thing, or she'll kill me". I just said ok, and inside we went for the night. Whenever I came in bleeding or with dirt/grass stains on me or my clothes, I came up with some lame story for her that never happened while riding the motorcycle. She was so naive and believed every word I told her. Probably because it meant she didn't have to wonder what I was doing, and she didn't have to patch me up as if she cared.
What bothers me the most is that the advertising misled the population to get us in the theaters. Once in theaters they, rolled the Propaganda. These were all the parts we didn't see any other previews. Classic bait and switch. I was not happy with it and was very vocal about that. I recommend that no one see this movie - especially children.
I felt when I was a girl that Ken was made so that Barbie would have a boyfriend. This film appears to be lampooning the Barbie history and is a comedy.
First thing I'm noticing on this panel is what a pretty boy the "Ken" actor is. Which just goes to prove that men are objectified just like women are. Barbie has her perfect little body image, but for every Barbie, there is a Ken who is just as "perfect." Women have complained for decades that Barbie places this high level of expectation on what they are supposed to look like. Just like they whine about how magazines paint them, with all these same expectations. Have they picked up a GQ magazine lately? Or any of the fitness magazines for men? A bunch of "Ken" dolls in those magazines too, right? Men may not take it as personally as women do, but they are indeed judged on their looks, their body, the full head of hair they have (or don't have). The media does a great job pushing those expectations. And then add to this how much money they make, the kind of car they drive, the address they provide for the little lady, etc. Men have a huge number of expectations placed on them. And I'm with Piers. I think there are ways of pushing your pro-women agenda without having to drag men down, even if it's supposedly being done in a comedic way that makes men look like doofuses. But if the only way women can push their narrative is by taking cheap shots at men, it doesn't show a very evolved way of pushing your message. And if it's such a huge concern of women, why is the message being pushed in a cheesy Barbie movie? And what's with the penis convo? This actress sees this pretty boy who she knows from a reality show and the convo goes instantly to penis and penis size? I mean, we know women obsess over men, their looks and their bodies, so this shouldn't come as a surprise. But this sounds like again, men being objectified in their own right and even being ridiculed over some physical attribute? I thought women didn't like these expectations of being perfect being forced on them. But it's okay for them to have expectations of men, I guess.
From Economist: "But European history suggests otherwise, according to a working paper by political scientists Oeindrila Dube, of the University of Chicago, and S. P. Harish, of McGill University. They studied how often European rulers went to war between 1480 and 1913. Over 193 reigns, they found that states ruled by queens were 27% more likely to wage war than those ruled by kings." So what about the BS that if woman rule the countries there would be no war...
Why isn't anyone admitting to how women diss each other for the most insignificant things? If we had matriarchy, some countries may actually go to war over presidents having wardrobe disagreements. Seriously though, some women make great leaders, but so does some men. So rather than patriarchy or matriarchy, why can't things be based on meritocracy? Seriously though, most modern day arguments are just plain stupid and unnecessary.
If women cared so much about sexual violence, they would not dress sexually provocative. Its only important enough to try and change what the men do and leave alone the women who use their sexuality to openly manipulate society but let us not talk about that.
When I lived in communist Europe in the 80s all women used to say "the problem is socialism". Funny how times change or maybe they don't. The problem is always whatever we have now. But fundamentally, it means "the system does not deliver the stuff I want". The lesson learned: it never does.
Funny, when she talked about women being attacked in the USA, she never mentioned men pretending to be women and entering women's spaces and sports..... And the doll was not created to empower women, it originally started in Germany, for men. The market was seeing when a young girl was playing with it.
Honestly- when we played w Barbie, Ken was in the case- we sometimes used GI Joe as her friend but not even a boyfriend. My brother didn’t care for his Barbie sized GI Joe and only played with the small ones, a whole army “Action Heroes” lol. We also didn’t have the Barbie car and used our roller skates instead- fun times. No politics, no boy bashing, just girls sharing fashion n hair styles then having them them dive into the creek on the hottest summer days… GI Joe rescued them all of course. ;)
Nice. I have an older brother who thought it was funny to rip Barbie heads off, and swap them with his GI Joe's one. Legs, arms...whatever. Maybe he was onto something, back then, and was predicting the future, of both GI Joe and Barbie. Ah... If we only knew about his clairvoyance gift. Could've cashed it... :)
....hmm....I though Barbie had a not too subtle dig at ultra feminist, as well. "Why can't we make ordinary Barbies", an important line toward the end of the movie.
It's totally idiotic to say that before capitalism we had total equality and harmony and then capitalism came in and screwed everything up. Does any woman really believe that things were better before the year 1500 (the earliest time I can think to set as the start of capitalism) or 1820 (probably the real start). Any women here want to give up washing machines, microwave ovens, and cars to be literally tied to the land and spending all day cleaning and washing (while men farmed or hunted all day?). Women were literally the property of their husbands before capitalism and the birth control pill - invented by a capitalist man liberated women.
Chris is right. Everyone else is just getting their panties in a twist. Growing up we all had several Barbies and maybe one Ken. Not because we were subconsciously man-bashing but because Barbie and her friends were inherently more fun to dress up and play with.
Yeah Ken was lame amongst my elementary school. I do remember the other kids being more into the Bratz Boy dolls though🤣 Ken fell to the wayside majorly.
"I'm sorry for people who thought it would be a kids movie", "It's a reflection of the times, a reflection of the struggles". I'm just frozen by the nonsense.
The word "capitalism" does not mean what she thinks it means. Oh, and if she thinks women and womens' rights are "under attack" here in the US, she should go on a rampage about all the biological men ruining womens' sports. But she won't.
That woman who thinks she's from the US and says that wages are never equitable and that women are under oppression and that they're doing worse and they're declining has never bothered to read the graduation rates and the hiring rates for corporations and universities in United States. She's the one living in a bubble and it's a bubble of self delusion and idiocy.
I've lived my entire life in the US and I've never once met any woman who has said or thought any of those crazy things you just threw out there lol. It sounds like women just don't like you and it's easy to see why lol and you're bitter about it lol.
Maybe a small minority of crazed extreme feminists think some of those things. But I've never heard or personally known one woman who thinks any of those things.
yeah shes a nutcase. i like and appreciate some feminist thought but not this type of delusional bullshit.
That's when you realize she's a brainless Liberal who doesn't get to think for herself unless she gets the approval from Democratic women politicians like Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi and AOC. That's them female politicians holding their patriarchy over that woman in the yellow blouse. What did she think she will get a free pass just because she's a woman too? Dream on Lady! Those three Democratic women politicians live off the capitalism in America as they proudly support it. Money is what makes them rich and stay in power and Democratic women voters in America put them in at position. Now try squeezing some money out of them?
Yeeeeeep. Well said.
Dr Jordan peterson would eviscerate her in any discussion
todays movies like this are not "art" they are propaganda....
Mommy , mommy can little boys be Barbie ????
@@Cazador60140 honestly, I have a cousin that did the sex change thing in 1979, my youngest son is gay, this is not about that, it about a group of people trying to force feed their ideals to everybody and make people believe what they believe, true or not
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They've always been propaganda.
@@IvyMay-qn2ysNot really. Maybe some. But most were a little thing called 'Entertainment'. Any propaganda in film up until the last decade or so wasn't as overt as it is now also.
That one guest says, “My God, have a sense of humor” as she’s shrilly lecturing all of us on her victimhood in a very humorless fashion.
Didn't a study in 2017 or 2019 find that woman rulers throughout history actually committed 27% more wars than male rulers did?
I think this is my favorite comment!
Even if equal pay would exist, people would still choose something to complain about because we trained our minds to complain.
You can not have equal pay, as you can not have equal beauty, equal intelligence, equal talent, equal charisma, equal values.
Corruption would exist anyway.
Life isn't bout equality, therefore, we should have a sense of humor and embrace and enjoy the differences in life.
In nature, the birds don't argue with lions about equality.
But I agree that if a woman is talented and passionate about her hobbies she has something to offer for example in music or arts.
But it depends if the art isn't too much supported by some artificial artistic values like software editing. some movies seem too edited by the software
that it's hard to see the human value of the movies.
Beautiful people should appreciate intelligent people and their charisma. Intelligent people should appreciate beautiful people and their charisma. Ordinary people should appreciate charismatic people and charismatic people should appreciate ordinary people and their values.
It's the values that people teach the kids.
I don't like the fact that if they reverse everything backward, they don't allow women to be themselves and be decently elegant, but also they don't allow the men to be themselves and like their own image. Men wear what they want to wear, not what someone tells them to wear. But it's better if humans wear decent clothes. Classy clothes are very attractive.
I didn't see the movie, but from the clips I gather the "humor" consisted of some novel physical comedic devices. That shows where we are as far as humor. It will prove to be unwatchable in 5 years and fall into the same category as Who Framed Roger Rabbit? that also made a lot in the box office, but was really a bad movie, but had novel comedic devices as well.
Barbie was just a pretty doll with lots of clothes. Why change something that was fun into a social statement.
Because the left wants to destroy EVERYTHING enjoyable!
Because to the feminist cult is compelled to make everything about them.
Because Barbie the bimbo doll has always been a social statement. The fact the women have no idea or understanding of this is just typical of most modern women. The "guests" are nothing more than useful idiots.
Because they are on the mission to ruin everything people used to like. Won't stop until they rewrite everything out there. It's like the same people (those Netflix/Netflix like writers, with their black Cleopatra) are rewriting history in last couple of decades, including Ukr one, and are doing w@r propaganda for them.
Barbie was always socially influenced to a degree...think about all the professional Barbies over the years. That's why the feminism angle even makes sense for such a movie
As a woman in America this American woman does not represent me. I am as free as ANY man.
Yes! I'm a 55 year old woman. I have equal rights as a man. I'm happy.
Feel free to make me a ……. Jk 😊
That makes you the type of woman that men _do_ respect. A self-aware individual who lives life naturally.
That's right. I'm a woman from Iran, now a US citizen. I will NEVER say I'm disadvantaged in the US. I have more rights and opportunity than I ever would have elsewhere
@@NadiaSeesItAhhh this is beautiful to hear ❤
I'm glad you feel that way. I am an American woman and I am happy you feel good here ❤
Haha this is a perfect example how perfectly hopeless our modern generation is. Seriously Barbie the number one movie. The western world is seriously falling into the abyss
That's what I think - it was a DOLL, & one I never wanted, let alone owned or played with!
the only ones going into the abyss are the ones that find every thing and other people offend them
It not about offence open your eyes
I absolutely did not want to go and watch this movie, girlfriend basically dragged me, and my opinion was already biased from media and chit chat online. I Left at the end of the movie with a sour feeling and not for the reasons was expecting going in.
I was surprised at some role reversal and some layers of critique that people seem to miss both on the left and the right, there's more depth to it than what's immediately apparent and the movie proved to me we are all too far into our own politics and "confirmation bias" through the things we experience daily to feel better about ourselves, unable to actually pay attention to what's in front of us. I went in expecting feminist propaganda and instead I feel like I watched quite something else. If anything it satirizes both the feminist and the red pill movement. It's more ambiguous than you think. There is another message there that isn't immediately obvious and I would suggest people to watch it, and pay attention past the surface.
That said, the movie is number one for all the wrong reasons, and I'm sure all my blue and pink haired co-spectators missed the point entirely.
@@sash1ellwow, well said! You're comment made me decide to go see the movie. Thank you for a well written and open minded comment!
It was an attack on capitalism ? I haven’t seen the movie but Barbie was made to make money: there wasn’t just Barbie but also her car, her house, her vast wardrobe , plus Ken and Skipper…
Her pool
Her white horse
And her dream house was a huge mansion with an elevator
Her corvette
Fighting patriarchal capitalism : "I need every pink, shiny sh out there, I don't really need, but will look good owning it, mostly to make my Barbie friends jealous, and their Ken's secretly desiring me, instead of them. And remember girls, strong women wear their outfits only once. You don't want Barbies, Ken's of the world to think you are some poor peasant who can't buy new clothes every other day. So, down with capitalism! Down with patriarchy! Fight for your right to buy more of unnecessary, pink, shiny sh, you'll be amused with for a day or two, put it aside and forget you even bought it! ✊🏼"
@@yourdarkestfears1134😂 especially the corvette…I’m 68 😂
these type of people blame everything on capitalism lol they want the communist utopia
Have you ever watched the kids channel. The biggest toy marketers . Barbie was always promoted, her stuff , made girl girly and having a childhood. Barbie helped Bob Mackie 's fashion . Then we had the Bratz fad thennothers. For younger Cabbage Patch ( got the founder from poverty)
"women are losing fundamental rights left and right" How can these people lie so egregiously, unless she was from Afghanistan this is simply and fundamentally a lie to support her lack of motivation to do better than others in life.
She is more than happy to let men enter women's spaces and wear women face. The woman doesn't know what oppression is. Go to Afghanistan where women and girls are prevented from basic rights like getting an education, go to India where recently 2 women were paraded naked and gang raped in a field, in Iran where women aren't treated like human beings. That bimbo's "human rights" would probably be having an issue with a man opening a door for her because of "patriarchy"
We are defo having some rights challenged but not all of them
Plus didn't a study in 2017 or 2019 find that woman rulers throughout history actually committed 27% more wars than male rulers did?
There are a lot of women is the US who feel the right to abortion is absolutely sacred.
Or how transgender are winning women of the year.
When I was young, it was all about Barbie and her friends. We didn’t even know what patriarchy was.
Ken was a side note, with plastic hair. Never even had him.
I wanted a Ken but mum wouldn't let me have one
I was always taught that you respect women despite what they do or say- there was always a price to pay if that rule were to be broken. Women already had control, but they wanted soyboy freaks, so they pushed normies like me away, and now when I see you in public, I thank God that you cheated.
It was all about getting you to spend money and buy crap. There were much better dolls etc for young girls.😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
My daughters had a vintage Ken from a yard sale who was a tad better than the 2000's version, but to be sure I bought them one of the reissued 12" G.I.Joes to make sure no one broke into the townhouse. He had a confiscated German jeep with a machinegun to patrol the neighborhood for Polly Pocket and the Bratz.
@@wwiiinplastic4712🤣🤣🤣🤣
That whole monologue by the mother in the movie can just as easily replaced with all the dualities and hardships MEN face! They have to be over 6" and make a million a year minimum, or they're completely written off as dating material, they're expected to approach women yet if they do they're creeps/stalkers, girls are girlbosses and need no man but the men are still expected to pay for everything like dates. Women cry about being the oppressed ones yet men are the majority of homeless, deaths on jobs, su*cides, homicide victims etc... I can go on for ages!
Marilyn Monroe was absolutely a troubled drug addicted mess for most of her celebrity career. We don’t talk about that though because, “Yaaaaas queen, Omg she’s perfect and sexy and a lady boss.” I don’t disagree on how influential and captivating she is especially for the women’s history and new age movements. But don’t deny blatant facts to fit your agenda.
She was heavily manipulated by the men around her, which I imagine a lot of so-called girl bosses are experiencing in private. SMH This new feminism is a HUGE SET UP.
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I am a woman and I will say that women can be incredibly manipulative and combative. Patriarchy and Matriarchy need to transition to include more equality of both genders.
I agree. I wish this stupid debate over patriarchy means men and matriarchy means women would stop. It’s an absurd argument. We need each other to have a world that works. Men and women both suffer under patriarchy because it is a system not a gender!! No wonder we are still where we are!! It’s time to stop standing in our corners and start working together to bring down a system of control and domination that is effected by men and women alike and suffered by men and women alike! I long for the day when we start listening to each other instead of being righteous about our own opinions and experiences as if they are the only truth
Who in the hell would pay to watch this garbage. My god you must be bored
@@sharlene44 Didn't a study in 2017 or 2019 find that woman rulers throughout history actually committed 27% more wars than their male rulers counterparts?
@@furonbrainiac6634 I honestly don’t know - thanks for pointing me to it, I’ll have a look. But if so, it only confirms my argument that this is not about men and women… 🤷♀️
Exactly. The issue is its not balanced enough.
That was painful to listen to. Thank god for Esther.
I’ve never heard of Margot Robby. Hope she’s pleased with how successfully she’s used capitalism and the patriarchy to get rich.
@@skyegroome223 Which further supports Janice's post.
She opening says Barbie film is feminist crap
Shes Australian -
Australia is like that!
They're very fragile too...
The 5 eye countries and Europe are lost!
@@colleen2671I’m an Australian. You’re an idiot.
Awful movie. My little granddaughter was so disappointed and said she didn’t understand it. Margo and Ryan were sooo old to play Barbie and Ken. Leave the kids stuff alone and let them have fairytale experiences. We all grow up and know they’re not real. This is just culture cancelling and utter rubbish. Even the adults came out of the movie confused.
Why are they so obsessed with everyone being equal when they're clearly not? As long as they are equal under the law? I'm a musician and I can assure you we're not all equal. The better ones tend to be the ones who work the hardest.
Breaking records! What about Sound of Freedom, which was made on a budget of 14 million and has broken all records, even though most of you haven't heard of it. It's number 3 on the box office and made over 100 million in it's first week. You can't even view it at the movies here in NZ because it is too close to the truth. I think all this bs about barbie, is exactly that bs!
100%
Gotta turn the neck of society so everyone focuses on the next big outrage and forget about what they were previously talking about. The media has been doing that for years.
Don't you just love Esther, she is absolutely necessary on these debates to come back with good old common sense.
Esther, you are adorable!! ❤
@@violetblue62 she certainly is
How can women and men do ANYTHING without each other.
Genuinely, women can't flick a switch and get electricity, or turn a tap and see water without men. That's OK we don't mind doing the vast majority of the dirty dangerous jobs without which would have us back to third world standards in a day, we just get pissed off at it never being acknowledged or worse in the case of feminists, denied.
"If women ran the world, there'd be no wars."
The Amazons left the chat.
Not true there were times in History that women were in power and Guess what. They started Wars 20% more of the time than Men. Look it up!
And every female ran tribe in Africa. Don't think we forgot about "Woman King". You know, the "girl boss" who butchered another tribe to steal their slaves for her own use.
"if women ran the world" - show me ONE successful matriarchy.
@@Hussman493 🤣🤣🤣
Capitalism helped women become independent. These people complaining about Capitalism are crazy
The lady in pink is correct imo, barbie is just a doll to play with. For children to project from their own imaginations and role play. Not for the doll manufacturers to tell you how or what to imagine when a child plays with them. They’re a foil for creative play, not indoctrination.
Also if the matriarchy in Crete was so successful-then where is that society now? Why couldn’t it endure if it was so successful? A lot of this stuff about Women -is other women making stereotypes, while simultaneously railing against that.
There's a very famous saying: Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. If women ruled the world we would be completely fucked.
But they do now, and that is why we are screwed...we need real men back and in every system
@@Mandi2727😂
@@shushuwu but very true..... that comment, it hurst doesn't lol 😂 😂
@@freddysquirenaranjo4859 Actually it’s just funny, that’s why I’m laughing ! You pretending it’s any deeper than that🤣
And they have one amazing skill: blame shifting.
Thanks, Pierce, you managed to bring in some real crazies for us all to hear. Esther is brilliant, though. I hope she rises through the media ranks.
Poor Esther, too many loonies on that panel.
Then why make it Barbie if you didn't want to attract children?
I can't believe she brought up the equal pay BS again.
It was written into law back in the 60s that employers have to pay men and women doing the same job the same rate.
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That's because she knows people don't look at how many total hours men work versus women.
@@Hussman493Or their choice of careers.
@@Hussman493 Right on. While I was working in a restaurant I always had the most amount of tips from all the waiters which were mostly woman. Not all but some told me it wasn't fair I got more tips then them. But than I had to explain them that's because I worked about 55+ hours a week and they were there for maybe 32... And with that said, there were also some girls that made around the 40 hours, but in general if you looked at the average of hours worked by the men and by the woman the men were around the 50 hours a week and the woman came in around 36.
@@eddielvis98 Yeah. I've seen similar numbers in every job I've worked. Security was the worst I've seen. Always leaving two hours early, leaving post abandoned. I counted how many guards did that. 14 in 4 years. All female guards. I'm not hating on women. I'm simply looking at patterns.
I will never see the Barbie film. I already had my suspicions about it without even seeing a trailer. Disgusting to hear it indeed is more woke garbage and that millions are falling for it.
I gave it a chance and watched it last night and was pleasantly surprised. I would say it's actually anti-woke if anything. It's a satire that criticizes everyone, the matriarchy and patriarchy with a positive message at the end. It began by saying girls can do more than just being mums and ends by saying we don't have to always be extraordinary and is ok to just want to be a mum and have an ordinary life. Definitely not for kids though, it's made for adult women who used to be girls. It reminded me of chick flicks made in the early 2000s like mean girls and legally blonde. It's silly, fun, and tells people not to be so codependent on others for their self-worth and esteem. Something people seem to be lacking these days. All in all, it's a good movie worth the watch if you grew up playing with Barbie.
I’m starting to wonder if this channel deliberately brings on women that MOST women don’t relate to......
Don't forget that this is a "show" above all and the discussions wouldn't be interesting to follow without the divergent views. At the end of the day, the panelists are all friendly with each other and they discuss their performance over drinks where Pierce picks up the tab.
@@hottuna2006 Well for fun they should display a big disclaimer across the screen that a feminist is in the building and her views will be mostly lies mixed in with some historical facts. That would make a great show.
I grew up with Barbie movies. Barbie and Ken always love each other.
Margo Robbie took her clothes off to get her big break So all hypocrites
"No downside to matriarchy"
Jesus, these people are hilarious.
🤨🤮just ruined Barbie.
Yup
How gorgeous does Esther look? Perfect Barbie look! ❤❤
She looks like a drag queen clown lol but hey, to each his/her own. She looks nothing like barbie. Please don't compare a deag queen to barbie.
I love Esther!
She always has great things to say, and rarely, if ever, misses a beat!
That other one?
Difficult to listen to her!
She hurts my ears, just trying to listen….ugh!
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Looking at women who are in charge of large companies and ruin them I really don't like the idea of matriarchy.
Yup
Kathleen Kennedy comes to mind instantly!
Esther looks really good in pink.
pammys7174 Actually she looks fake .
I love Esther. You expect J.Lo, you get Lizzo. 😂😂😂😂
Its not a joke ,its an agenda .
Tells you a lot about this country that Barbie had a better opening weekend than Openheimer.😢
It is escapism to the highest degree! Oppenheimer is about reality, Barbie about fantasy!
@@davidjoe3368 Barbie sucks
Both are trash to be real.
She says relax, it’s just a movie, don’t take it so seriously. Right after she lost her shit over the Marilyn moves.
“Oppression is bad! Let me be the oppressor, I’ll be the good one!”
The woman in the yellow blouse has consumed mass quantities of the Kool-Aid.
Okay, the woman who claimed there was a Greek island that had a matriarchal government and they had no wars, and more democracy. Cool beans, my question becomes, “If they had such a successful governance, where are they now?” Seems to me if it was such a successful government, it should have grown, and become a dominant way of doing things. I would also like to point out countries who have had successful females running the government had no problem going to war, Margret Thatcher, Katherine the Great, Queen Victoria, Queen Isabella of Spain, just to name a few.
I will always stand by my belief that "Patriarchy protects and sustains the family." And "Patriarchy and Matriarchy can both exist in one family." "Matriarchy nurtures and nourishes the family "
Love how Esther is dressed like THAT, yet she+her words still come across completely dignified, respectable, and profound…. unlike the Sussexes even when they’re perfectly styled, put together, and wearing expensive upscale clothing/accessories.
(I know that’s totally off topic haha. But for some reason, throughout the whole video I just kept thinking about it)
Yes she set the tone for what I thought the movie was about, satire. Those housing sets are totally impractical but a young girl playing with a doll does not consider such logistics
Esther always amuses me with her wit and sarcasm.
She misses the mark this time...as much as I like her
@@clairehann2681 She was the only one who didn't miss the mark, did we watch the same video? 🤔...
It's Barbie who incites the war between the Kens as a distraction while Barbie organises to rig an election. Barbie is the antagonist in her own movie.
There is a small town in my state that had lots of problems. They did vote in ALL women to run the town. Nothing changed. The female reporter presenting the story claimed that they inherited the problems, so they were not able to change them. Why not? That just sounds like making excuses, and I do know that women can do things.
The woman on this show was saying that with women in charge, there wouldn't be wars, etc. She needs to do some research. Is there a place that does have all women in charge? Were they successful? If so, how and why? It's nice to imagine a happy place, but she would be wiser to do some research before going on a TV show without real facts.
I don’t see how capitalism is the cause of gender inequality or any of the other things she named. How she makes that connection, I don’t know 🤨
I (male) worked alongside mostly female nurses for over four decades. Do a halfway realistic on that and there will be no controversy about the power of women.
I know it is a double standard...and yet all lib women do is talk about how men get paid more. The opposite is true. I'm sick of it...I cant get a job cuz fat women are in charge of everythin . Ughhhh
Money rules our thoughts unless you are strong willed💃🌹🌞
Hollywood may have sexualizing or objectifying women but never tried to make them look bad 😞
Esther looks great in that outrageous pink wig.
All this "women vs men", "right vs left" or "us vs them" is counter-productive. We all know it's so important to find a common ground if we are to solve our big problems and yet this bickering and polarization is always going to prevent that.
I like to think of this Barbie movie in the horror film section because it truly is scary how this society is shifting very scary stuff!
The blonde lady is one of them people that think a man looking at her counts as sexual assault.
It should be for kids. Ken was very important during playing with Barbie when I was young, cause every little girl dreams about falling in love. That’s what little girls and even grown women dream of.
Here in Australia we had a female PM & that was a trainwreck!
Julia Gillard she was a waste of space ,plus Jacinda Ardern of NZ resigned before Getting kicked out Women would cause more wars if in charge Imo because they are catty and nasty b**** 😮
I was a massive supporter of Gillard at first (my local MP), but she's turned into a professional victim.
And her Labor party continues to support overrated and under qualified female candidates.
And we in Finland had a woman president who was knee deep up poot-ins ass
Hillarys Buddy! Evil Cow!
I'm a woman and I find myself to be pretty girlie, aesthetically speaking. With that said, I'm a country girl and if you think that my temper wouldn't ever make me go to war with another country (if I ran the country) then these women are sadly mistaken 😅 pushed into a corner, I will come out swinging for real. So it's bull that I have heard this from women throughout the years. That if women ran the world, there would be no war, Malarkey!!! 😂 maybe possibly liberal women wouldn't go to war, but then again seems like they are more violent than they say so 😂
"a different way to conduct conflict" is a very suspicious open meaning statement. it could cover sins worse than any known warfare yet used. capitalism is why we have advanced this far and climate change crisis is a left wing socialist fed mind game as a means to oppress the poor in the west. no one is trying to change china's energy policies by protesting china are they?
See how lionesses are much more likely to co operate to kill their prey than lions.
If women where in charge we wouldn't be so advanced technology wise. Everything we use is created by a men and assembled by men. Women these days. Stunning and brave
Only takes a comparison of a male dominated industry vs a female one to see men are successful, productive and advanced and women are chaotic, disorganised, over spend and bitchy
It's the woman who think they are equal to men physically that are part of the problem...why can't women be happy to be equal but in different ways....let woman do what they're good at .. and the same for men... instead of competing all the time...and solely women running the country would be a disaster.....I don't know what women have ever invented if anything...but we definitely know men have invented everything that has changed the world...
Everything?? That's not accurate
@@pyrografixmen made the world you live in
@@pyrografix 99% then
They really need to go back and make a REAL Barbie movie for all the little girls out there who love their Barbie dolls. And younger actors all around, please.
And fat and Trans barbies? The hell, why are the barbies ugly?
If the bomb never happened, millions more would have died in the ongoing war against Japan. I guess they could have sent Women soldiers.
Nope. The war was over. Even MacArthur said that.
@@jamesmorrow1646 Do you think that millions of people willing to die for a god Emporor believed that?
@@stevewiles7132 That’s beside the point. Russia had joined the war. The only stumbling block was unconditional surrender. All important US generals thought it was unnecessary to use the bombs.
@@jamesmorrow1646Have you studied it in depth, James? I do suspect there is a fair bit of “Monday morning quarterbacking” going on, on this admittedly vexed issue. Also, if the Allies had relied on the Russian advance in 1945, there wouldn’t be North and South Korea. Korea would be 100% Stalinist and there would be “North and South Japan” , with the former being a staunch ally of the USSR. That scenario would see a far poorer, tenser world with a higher risk of subsequent nuclear conflict. Truman did the right thing.
As a woman I can say if we’d sent women to fight the Germans and Japanese, we’d all be speaking some weird conglomeration of both of those languages now..
Why do these women talk so fast and so loud. Its hard to follow them.
I DO NOT KNOW WHY E ERYKNE IS SHOUTI G
This movie is a version of Stepford Wives. Unachievable perfection to please.
The Barbie Wedding Doll costs $29.99 but if you buy The Divorced Barbie Doll they cost $4999.99. That's because Divorced Barbie comes with Ken's House, Ken's Car, Ken's Boat, Ken's Gym, Ken's Kids and Ken's dog!!!! 😂😂😂
Nah that was barbies dream house lol not Ken's dreamhouse🤣
@@Marie-fh9frwhooosh
People need to look at Barbie through a child's eyes, not as adults. I'm 56. When I was about 7, I started playing with Barbie. I played with Barbie until I was probably around 12. My Barbies didn't even have a Ken for the longest time because Ken was just EWWW. You couldn't put him in frilly dresses or brush his hair. Plus, at that age, boys had cooties. Piers, just drop the whole Barbie thing. I saw the movie and it was spot on with how little girls view Barbie and her accessories. Barbie was great for imagination. The doll did not inspire me to hate or bash men or grow up and run the world.
I tried to turn several of my Barbies into Kens bit there was this thick metal coil inside their boobs and l couldn't cut them off
@@meilingflesa8140 that dog in your profile picture is so cute aww
@@idorus Thank you. That is my dog Joshua and unfortunately he died 10 years ago. I miss him so much.
Retardlogic at it's lowest
Capitalism is patriarchy?! Ok, so let’s break this statement down logically.
- By the lady’s admission, Margot Robbie is a beautiful actress hence people will come to see the film, and “that’s capitalism” is, I’m pretty sure, what she said. So, the capitalist system which benefits beautiful and talented people such as her, allowing her to be a lead actress and to have opportunities 99.99% of men (and women foe that matter) could only ever dream of is “patriarchal”?
- Similarly, male actors such as Ryan Gosling have big box office pull because millions of women are going to choose to go and watch a film with him in it, is also capitalism. In this case, we have a man with life opportunities that only 99.99% of men could only dream of, because women are free to choose to go and watch a movie with him in it, and thus helping to set the market. Once again, this seems like a capitalist style version of democracy where the beautiful and talented get ahead, not “patriarchy”.
- Let’s compare this to most non-Democratic nations where significant structural gender inequalities still exist. Where most women are not well educated, and many are functionally illiterate and/or severely mistreated. But somehow it’s the capitalist system that is “patriarchy”?!
That all being said, I’m not a big fan of the capitalist system in its current form. Socioeconomic inequality is higher than ever before, and the rich are robbing from the poor and working people more and more every year, we all saw what happened during Covid. Also, the current trend of countries placing more restrictions on travel is quite disturbing, i.e. “fifteen minute cities” and the new passports required to enter Europe. hopefully we don’t see a return to the old feudal system days where most people weren’t allowed to travel out of their own village. Personally, I quite like the Scandinavian style social Democratic model, basically any that believes in treating people with fairness and dignity. Much better than the current state of affairs where the combination of the rise of social media, rampant capitalism and a decline in religiosity have led to people being treated as commodities, and if you’re seeing as not having as much to offer or you don’t look the right way, you’re treated like garbage. All the while halfwits like Ryan Taylor can get away with being as rude as f..k because society lauds them as “winners” because he was on cough cough…”love island”, while decent, honest people (especially if they’re men) are treated as “losers”. Lord help us. Capitalism definitely has quite a bit to answer for.
Beautiful? lololol she looks like a lizard
The first one is correct though, men and women do solve conflicts differently. The problem with her thinking that "wars wouldn't happen" if women were in charge is that the female way of solving problems breaks down the moment all parties aren't subscribing to uncompetitive, risk-averse solutions. As soon as someone decides to just TAKE something because they can, matriarchal solutions fall apart. The best society would ideally have a mix of both the patriarchal and matriarchal, separately governing what they're best at while pushing society forward together.
You only begin to touch on the complexities involved in such an idea as what it would be like if women ran the world. Jordan Peterson would have a field day out of this, and have both of those women for lunch, not Esther, she the only one making sense, of the panel.
The people who run the world will always be the most aggressive ones, which stops the entire concept of the people who run the world could do it peacefully. Just as u said.
As a woman, you would have to give me a LOT of money to go to this "movie", or as I call it, "a piece of sh*t". When I was a girl, I wanted to play catch with any kind of ball, or have a motorcycle, something I had to work my dad over hard for several years before he finally gave in for my 13th birthday. When he was doing fieldwork, he got to see some of the fun things I did which he didn't think was a good idea. His exact words were "Don't you dare let your mother know what you're doing on that thing, or she'll kill me". I just said ok, and inside we went for the night. Whenever I came in bleeding or with dirt/grass stains on me or my clothes, I came up with some lame story for her that never happened while riding the motorcycle. She was so naive and believed every word I told her. Probably because it meant she didn't have to wonder what I was doing, and she didn't have to patch me up as if she cared.
Esther Krakue, the voice of reason.
God damn Esther Krakue is SMART AF. What a star!
What bothers me the most is that the advertising misled the population to get us in the theaters. Once in theaters they, rolled the Propaganda. These were all the parts we didn't see any other previews. Classic bait and switch. I was not happy with it and was very vocal about that. I recommend that no one see this movie - especially children.
Two big jokes i've heard
1.Emotional labour(2:21)
2."lts just a joke"
I felt when I was a girl that Ken was made so that Barbie would have a boyfriend. This film appears to be lampooning the Barbie history and is a comedy.
The patriarchy is capitalism lol. No, freedom is capitalism.
First thing I'm noticing on this panel is what a pretty boy the "Ken" actor is.
Which just goes to prove that men are objectified just like women are.
Barbie has her perfect little body image, but for every Barbie, there is a Ken who is just as "perfect."
Women have complained for decades that Barbie places this high level of expectation on what they are supposed to look like. Just like they whine about how magazines paint them, with all these same expectations.
Have they picked up a GQ magazine lately? Or any of the fitness magazines for men? A bunch of "Ken" dolls in those magazines too, right?
Men may not take it as personally as women do, but they are indeed judged on their looks, their body, the full head of hair they have (or don't have).
The media does a great job pushing those expectations.
And then add to this how much money they make, the kind of car they drive, the address they provide for the little lady, etc. Men have a huge number of expectations placed on them.
And I'm with Piers. I think there are ways of pushing your pro-women agenda without having to drag men down, even if it's supposedly being done in a comedic way that makes men look like doofuses.
But if the only way women can push their narrative is by taking cheap shots at men, it doesn't show a very evolved way of pushing your message. And if it's such a huge concern of women, why is the message being pushed in a cheesy Barbie movie?
And what's with the penis convo? This actress sees this pretty boy who she knows from a reality show and the convo goes instantly to penis and penis size? I mean, we know women obsess over men, their looks and their bodies, so this shouldn't come as a surprise. But this sounds like again, men being objectified in their own right and even being ridiculed over some physical attribute?
I thought women didn't like these expectations of being perfect being forced on them.
But it's okay for them to have expectations of men, I guess.
Good to see people speak out against the cultural attack on men.
Wow. Why can't a movie just be a movie? Why do we have to read so much shite into everything? I long for the 70's............
From Economist:
"But European history suggests otherwise, according to a working paper by political scientists Oeindrila Dube, of the University of Chicago, and S. P. Harish, of McGill University. They studied how often European rulers went to war between 1480 and 1913. Over 193 reigns, they found that states ruled by queens were 27% more likely to wage war than those ruled by kings."
So what about the BS that if woman rule the countries there would be no war...
Not a word about the lack of downy barbie 🤔
Why isn't anyone admitting to how women diss each other for the most insignificant things? If we had matriarchy, some countries may actually go to war over presidents having wardrobe disagreements.
Seriously though, some women make great leaders, but so does some men. So rather than patriarchy or matriarchy, why can't things be based on meritocracy? Seriously though, most modern day arguments are just plain stupid and unnecessary.
Always great to see red hot Esther. Let's flip it and do a film about Action Man, then wait for the outrage.
Rather than this, I prefer a segment on a truly worthy film: The Sound of Freedom.
If women cared so much about sexual violence, they would not dress sexually provocative. Its only important enough to try and change what the men do and leave alone the women who use their sexuality to openly manipulate society but let us not talk about that.
And for the ladies that say “men can show their nipples” no, most can’t just do that either
Lmao incel
When I lived in communist Europe in the 80s all women used to say "the problem is socialism". Funny how times change or maybe they don't. The problem is always whatever we have now. But fundamentally, it means "the system does not deliver the stuff I want". The lesson learned: it never does.
"There's not much in a critic showing off how clever he is at writing silly, supercilious gags about something he hates.”
― Stanley Kubrick
Funny, when she talked about women being attacked in the USA, she never mentioned men pretending to be women and entering women's spaces and sports..... And the doll was not created to empower women, it originally started in Germany, for men. The market was seeing when a young girl was playing with it.
No we just , backstab, bitching, bullies, malicious, to name just a few traits, and that's just towards other women. 🤦😂
I love Esther very intelligent and the way she voices her opinion..would love to hear more of her
Honestly- when we played w Barbie, Ken was in the case- we sometimes used GI Joe as her friend but not even a boyfriend. My brother didn’t care for his Barbie sized GI Joe and only played with the small ones, a whole army “Action Heroes” lol. We also didn’t have the Barbie car and used our roller skates instead- fun times. No politics, no boy bashing, just girls sharing fashion n hair styles then having them them dive into the creek on the hottest summer days… GI Joe rescued them all of course. ;)
Nice. I have an older brother who thought it was funny to rip Barbie heads off, and swap them with his GI Joe's one. Legs, arms...whatever. Maybe he was onto something, back then, and was predicting the future, of both GI Joe and Barbie. Ah... If we only knew about his clairvoyance gift. Could've cashed it... :)
Men and women are built differently.
....hmm....I though Barbie had a not too subtle dig at ultra feminist, as well.
"Why can't we make ordinary Barbies", an important line toward the end of the movie.
It's totally idiotic to say that before capitalism we had total equality and harmony and then capitalism came in and screwed everything up. Does any woman really believe that things were better before the year 1500 (the earliest time I can think to set as the start of capitalism) or 1820 (probably the real start). Any women here want to give up washing machines, microwave ovens, and cars to be literally tied to the land and spending all day cleaning and washing (while men farmed or hunted all day?). Women were literally the property of their husbands before capitalism and the birth control pill - invented by a capitalist man liberated women.
Esther is 100% on the mark, as usual.
Esther chose her wardrobe well she pulled off that look nicely.
1:48 ... why do we talk to INSANE people like this !
Piers really seems to be arguing the truth behind the nonsense lately. I am very happy to see this from him.
Chris is right. Everyone else is just getting their panties in a twist. Growing up we all had several Barbies and maybe one Ken. Not because we were subconsciously man-bashing but because Barbie and her friends were inherently more fun to dress up and play with.
Yeah Ken was lame amongst my elementary school. I do remember the other kids being more into the Bratz Boy dolls though🤣 Ken fell to the wayside majorly.
"I'm sorry for people who thought it would be a kids movie", "It's a reflection of the times, a reflection of the struggles". I'm just frozen by the nonsense.
This conversation makes my head hurt.
The word "capitalism" does not mean what she thinks it means. Oh, and if she thinks women and womens' rights are "under attack" here in the US, she should go on a rampage about all the biological men ruining womens' sports. But she won't.