Detective Gumshoe. You should look forward to your next salary. You have gotten me out in multiple jams in the past so I have decided to raise your salary.
@@MilesEdgeworthAceAttorney E-e-Edgeworth? Are you feeling alright? You just... didn’t cut Gumshoe’s salary. You even raised it! WHO ARE YOU AND WHERE IS MILES FRICKEN EDGEWORTH BEING STORED
I think they meant to convey they missed/couldn’t see Phoenix and Maya. But it does come off pretty cold lmao. Like goddamn, Miles. 😳 That’s your childhood best friend and his GF. You should go introduce yours to them, lol.
@@elizabethkblanco4620 That shouldn't stop them. At least since Spirit of Justice where they're both adults. My parents are 22 years apart and have been happily married for 25 years now. Age difference doesn't matter as long as both parties are old enough to consent and really in love
If Edgeworth and Phoenix found out they were both here then there's a chance another defense attorney would've fought against Gavin and Phoenix would never have gotten his badge taken away
@@betheone4837 His name's Klavier Gavin. (Also since investigations cases are usually only a day long canonically, Wright would probably still face off against Klavier.)
@@valtos4093 yea but he got regressed back to a dude who doesn't know what he's doing. I loved his last case though, he looked like a professional unfazed of anything and had a flexible creative thinking, like a living legend.
the best thing about this game is when edgeworth is talking to sawhit, and edgeworth thinks to himself “he must have had a bad run-in with a defense attorney”, not knowing said attorney is phoenix wright
Never gonna happen. Edgeworth’s games are for his circle, and Kay is the centre of it. Not Phoenix. Though it would be cool if Phoenix and Maya made a cameo, or Kay made one in a future AA game.
Owy's Gaming [Gregory Divino] I mean they team up in SoJ, but I don’t think it will happen in Investigations since it’d be bad for Phoenix to outshine Edgeworth in his own game.
Edgeworth: (hmmm I’m in a corner, I have to do that one thing that a certain spiky haired, blue suit wearing, turnabout son of a bitch lawyer does, what was it again?) Phoenix: turn your thinking around Edgeworth: (THATS RIGHT!!! I have to turn my thinking-) wait who said that? Phoenix: HEY EDGEWORTH!!!!! Maya: MAYA!!!!!! Edgeworth: AHHHHHHHHHHH
I like when Kay starts getting hit by the elephant’s trunk Edgeworth just yells like he’s in court. “You there! Stop that!” As if that would work on an elephant. Love that.
Lotta is one of my favourite characters and I was happy to see her again after justice for all they could’ve had her as the reporter in the last case of Apollo justice but they didn’t so it was nice to see her back
For the comments relating to phoenix, I'm assuming this was 2 weeks before the gavin brothers took down phoenix? And was there any real forshadowing of that here to begin with?(plus I wonder what's so Intriguing up that building that they're ignoring a crime scene with lotta of all people "quietly" taking pictures the southern way)
HOLD IT! Where is the step ladder joke? And the part where phoenix, maya and pearl riding a boat? ( which i think its in AAI not AAI2 ) and also the creator of the steel samurai in the airport?
I like how Edgeworth just added the "at least from where we are standing". As if he just felt that Phoenix was somewhere nearby, even if he is not relevant for what is going on.
You missed the one where Phoenix, Pearl and Maya were on a boat :)) There was another one also related to love I think but idr But lmao how sus- whenever they’re talking about love Phoenix is in the cameo I-
Well lets see - Payne in turnabout visitor - Sal manella in airlines - Phoenix, maya and pearls in kidnapped - Mike meekins, oldbag, ema and a reference to marshall in the same case - Lotta and larry in ablaze And maybe some more that I have forgotten
To this day I think if a third investigations game were to be made it should take place before apalo justice just so we can see how edgeworth feels about Wright being disbarred they never bothered to elaborate how Phoenix's friends felt about this for some reason so.I'd imagine a third investigations game could be used to fill in the gaps.
That would require them to actually admit that AJ happened at all. And between diffrent writers writing the games now, the game being hated in japan and capcom's restrictive spoilerclause or whatever, it is unlikely that we will ever get another plot that seriously delves into Phoenix's dissbarment beyond "it happened, lol"
@@coolcatred4922 No? It was never about "oh, people could not play AJ"(It was even ported to 3DS at some point iirc), it was about them not wanting it acknowledged.
I wish we had to see wright in this game...maybe we'll finally know what Edgeworth really thinks about Phoenix...I wonder if they didn't include him because 1. It would break our heart edgewright shippers 2. it would make the ship officially canon Or just give more hopes ...idk why they didn't include him and we could talk to him like all the other old characters even though them there or talking to them wasn't very logical ...ahhhh I wish this ship would be canon I wouldn't die happy if it isn't
Edgeworth thinks of Phoenix as his childhood friend. He’s said it before and so has Phoenix. The only reason Phoenix isn’t in these games is because he would steal Edgeworth’s spotlight, same reason they get rid of him when they want Apollo or Athena to have a spotlight, except they work for him, so of course he has to appear. Phoenix doesn’t work for Edgeworth or vice versa, thus, no reason to appear aside from Easter eggs like this. Whether y’all like it or not, Edgeworth’s circle consists of: Kay, Franziska, Gumshoe, and Ema, with the only overlap between his and Phoenix’s circle being in Larry Butz, who is their mutual childhood best friend. The three of them share the same bond as signal samurai, which is why Larry appears in both games. You can ship whatever you’d like, but there is nothing in the canon suggesting Edgeworth thinks of Phoenix in a romantic way. They’re childhood friends/rivals, and Edgeworth has at once respect and contempt for Phoenix, being a bit of a prideful fellow. Of course, Phoenix has been an influence for him, which he acknowledges by rekindling their friendship. But that’s all it is: friendship. The only people Edgeworth has actually shown overt or very strongly hinted romantic feelings for are Kay Faraday and a one-shot character from when he travels back in time in a musical, the latter not being canon to the games. One of the most emotional moments Edgeworth has is under a cherry blossom tree with Kay, where she explains she ran away to try and jog her memory/get his prosecutor’s badge back. Edgeworth then says Kay’s thoughts and actions always exceed his expectations. If you know anything about Japan, you’d understand the meaning of including a cherry blossom tree/petals in this exchange, as hints of romantic feelings. The same is true in the SoJ prologue where Phoenix is standing under a cherry blossom tree whilst thinking of Maya, and Athena, who has that ability, picks up on his emotions. She has never picked up on anything re: Phoenix and Edgeworth as far as romantic feelings, though. Kay is the sole person who fits Edgeworth and who propels him to his absolute potential. Phoenix and Maya liberated him from his feelings of guilt in the DL-6 incident, as any friend would do when seeing another suffer, but Phoenix didn’t exactly agonise over it the way Edgeworth did when Kay was endangered. When people want to manipulate Phoenix Wright, they target Maya Fey, not Miles. So that alone should tell you everything re: whom Phoenix’s feelings belong to. As for Edgeworth, the same is true, when Simon Keyes willed to move him, he targeted Kay Faraday both physically and legally, knowing Edgeworth would not rest until he’d saved her, and that he would be angered to the point of tracking him down. Hell, Maya is more important to Phoenix than even Trucy, and Kay managed to actually become Edgeworth’s assistant, despite him pushing her away at first. So, that alone should speak to the importance of these women to both men, and invalidate both the “he sees her as a sister/daughter” cope, since Phoenix already has a daughter, and Miles already has a sister. As far as friends, we can compare their reactions to when Larry or even each other have come under suspicion for murder/been targeted. Of course they care, because they’re friends, but it’s not the same as when Maya and Kay respectively are targeted. I don’t think Phoenix and Edgeworth were ever meant to be a couple, and there is no evidence suggesting any sort of romantic feelings between them. So, in short, there’s nothing to confirm because the answer should already be pretty clear. I also don’t think we’ll ever see Phoenix in these games as an investigative partner because they are rivals, and he would steal attention away from Miles, who deserves to have his own games separate from the going-ons of Phoenix Wright. Sorry if this comes as bad news to you, but it’s pretty clear that they’re not, have never been, and will never be canon, because Phoenix belongs with Maya, and Edgeworth as per his own games with Kay. Lastly, Rayfa also gives us a pretty good impression of how Phoenix would treat a “little sister-like” character (though Pearl also serves this function), and Edgeworth a character he considered a child. Neither treat either Maya or Kay in that manner, but as valuable partners and people they have romantic feelings for, this considering Rayfa was an investigative partner for both of them. So, ship whatever you’d like, but it’s simply not going to be canon. I doubt Capcom will make any main cast relationship concretely canon, but Phoenix/Maya and Edgeworth/Kay definitely have the strongest canon hints/support. Edit: “and I wouldn’t die happy if it isn’t.” Then perish in sorrow. I’m a shipper too, but wtf. Placing so much importance on a ship, especially one as weak/unlikely to be canon as that, is not healthy. Please seek help.
Dante and EdgeLords It’s not canon and it never will be. Phoenix clearly cares for Maya Fey, and Edgeworth for Kay Faraday. Shipping is of course very fun for a lot of people, myself included, but these types who pester for canon confirmation, especially of ships that don’t even make sense in the first place, are really annoying.
When you realize Wright is literally two weeks before his disbarment here
thats correct
Sad. :(
But at least Maya was there with him. 😢
2 weeks away from 7 years of depression
@@corundumkrabble5035 and go suddenly on a no lose streak for 7 years
Whats disbarment?
5:30 Lotta: you're that heinous prosecutor!
Edge: You accused me of murder under oath!
"I reckon the past is the past, bygones be bygones!"
Lmao
When he talks about Phoenix and calls him "A CERTAIN MAN" just makes me laugh for no reason.
They just can’t name him in his games lol. He has no issue saying “Wright” in Phoenix’s own games.
Detective Gumshoe. You should look forward to your next salary. You have gotten me out in multiple jams in the past so I have decided to raise your salary.
Ok Dick
@@MilesEdgeworthAceAttorney E-e-Edgeworth? Are you feeling alright? You just... didn’t cut Gumshoe’s salary. You even raised it!
WHO ARE YOU AND WHERE IS MILES FRICKEN EDGEWORTH BEING STORED
@@MilesEdgeworthAceAttorney no fucking way, this ain't edgeworth, all you do is cut his salary, and now you raise?! impossible.
Lmao Phoenix and Maya ignoring the police investigation currently taking place like "WOW look at that building!"
Oh no, the last one is so fittingly mean-spirited XD
I think they meant to convey they missed/couldn’t see Phoenix and Maya.
But it does come off pretty cold lmao. Like goddamn, Miles. 😳 That’s your childhood best friend and his GF. You should go introduce yours to them, lol.
@@fatuusdottore Maya ins't dating Phoenix, neither is Kay dating Miles.
Kay is like....10-17....no
Sneasel Maya is like seven years younger than Phoenix.
@@elizabethkblanco4620 That shouldn't stop them. At least since Spirit of Justice where they're both adults. My parents are 22 years apart and have been happily married for 25 years now. Age difference doesn't matter as long as both parties are old enough to consent and really in love
If Edgeworth and Phoenix found out they were both here then there's a chance another defense attorney would've fought against Gavin and Phoenix would never have gotten his badge taken away
Wasn't it Klavier?
@@betheone4837 His name's Klavier Gavin. (Also since investigations cases are usually only a day long canonically, Wright would probably still face off against Klavier.)
Well he got his badge back on DD so we don't have to worry
Lmao if the whole 7yg didn't happen because Phoenix and Miles decided to go on an extended honeymoon
@@valtos4093 yea but he got regressed back to a dude who doesn't know what he's doing. I loved his last case though, he looked like a professional unfazed of anything and had a flexible creative thinking, like a living legend.
5:50
Kay: I don't see anyone special around here either.
*shows maya and Phoenix*
Me: *screams*
the best thing about this game is when edgeworth is talking to sawhit, and edgeworth thinks to himself “he must have had a bad run-in with a defense attorney”, not knowing said attorney is phoenix wright
Probably because at that time he doesn't know Phoenix became an attorney
@@rogue1248 investigations 2 takes place well after the events of trials and tribulations, so edgeworth definitely knows wright as an attorney
@@rogue1248Because the prosecutor of his case was Payne
@@spenjaminn3846But he didn’t know at the time of The First a turnabout, did he? Because that’s what the commenter meant.
@rogue1248 it's good to see Ema skye and lotta hart again
Honestly... i always imagined that at some point Phoenix and Edgeworth just met in one of these episodes and work together to solve the case.
Owy's Gaming [Gregory Divino] Ikr? I had pretty high hopes for that...
Never gonna happen. Edgeworth’s games are for his circle, and Kay is the centre of it. Not Phoenix.
Though it would be cool if Phoenix and Maya made a cameo, or Kay made one in a future AA game.
@@fatuusdottore I know. But still it would be cool if that really happends.
Owy's Gaming [Gregory Divino] I mean they team up in SoJ, but I don’t think it will happen in Investigations since it’d be bad for Phoenix to outshine Edgeworth in his own game.
@@fatuusdottore Well yeah
ron and dessie going on thief escapades is honestly deserving of a solo game. give me some wholesome thievery.
I love them sm
Ron Delite: Ace Attorney - Thievery Tracer
Mask DeMasque ace thief
Ron DeLite: Ace Thief.
Maybe we'll get that once we get that Ema Skye spinoff.
What about Penny Nicols, Shelly de Killer and ...Does Gregory Edgeworth count?
Oops, i guess i forgot them
theres also Will Powers....
@@The_Huebird But it wasn't miles fault...
Who tf is penny
@@antonimus12 turnabout samurai film assistant
0:00 - Winston payne
0:40 - frank sahwit
1:56 - regina berry
3:35 - Ron delite & desiree delite
3:54 - ema skye
4:47 - lotta hart
5:41 - Phoenix Wright & Maya Fey
So THIS WAS AFTER ONE OF THE CASES PHOENIX DID?
@@Donsive ... Yes. Its after the OG trilogy, when did you think this took place.
@@HouseMDLover69 what OG trilogy?
@@Donsive Ace Attorney Trilogy
@@HouseMDLover69 Ohh ok
I like how both Maya and Nick and Edgeworth and Kay just ignore each other. M and N just look up while E and K look to the side.
Maybe they're ignoring each other because there's a *wall* between them?
@@manuelacuna4188
They have their own alibis.
I don't think they can see them.
Edgeworth: (hmmm I’m in a corner, I have to do that one thing that a certain spiky haired, blue suit wearing, turnabout son of a bitch lawyer does, what was it again?)
Phoenix: turn your thinking around
Edgeworth: (THATS RIGHT!!! I have to turn my thinking-) wait who said that?
Phoenix: HEY EDGEWORTH!!!!!
Maya: MAYA!!!!!!
Edgeworth: AHHHHHHHHHHH
The edgeworth phoenix and maya are jamming
No, for Edgeworth, its "NNNGGGOOOOHHHHH"
Maya yelling her own name
@@AirSkyyy yes
@@Mark3nd no it's "MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM"
These coincidences are painful without Phoenix
True
At least they should add a DLC where you can play as Phoenix in Investigations
@@Monhamd1000I kinda wonder how phoenix sprite will look like in the investigation games since even gumshoe has a side sprite made for this games
3:03 I am ... an ass
LMAO
Put it on 0.25 and keep trying to pause it
@@tantris2876 did it just now
@@tantris2876 Ha nope I set it to
2x speed and after 5 straight minutes I got it AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
@@herrforesight-Satanisking Lmao you keep replying to every one of my comments
When i see Maya and Phoenix looking at the building:
"Geez you two, stop bringing a murder case. You are not even playable in this game."
It's funny how Sahwit "saw" the culprit in action again.
He definetly must have seen the culprit in the first one. Maybe in a reflection, but still
Frank saw it. Get it?
@@urbanorebosa *DooM music kicks in*
E2M1 I sawed the demons.
I like when Kay starts getting hit by the elephant’s trunk Edgeworth just yells like he’s in court. “You there! Stop that!” As if that would work on an elephant. Love that.
That's a Phoenix imposter, I swear.
Wright doesn't have such blashpemous chesnut locks!
He’s in the sun.
It’s called highlights.
he sus
Mega sus.
It's probably Furio.
@@normanclatcher SUS
@Lebron jahamez it's furio confirmed
Nice! I didn’t know some of these were on the game!
I'm getting an odd impression that Maya was pointing up into the sky at a 'flying object', for effort of avoiding spoiling ;)
3:03 I'm... an ass
Stolen comment
@@mordoc1186 I didn't steal it but ok
@@mordoc1186 it's because of a reddit post or a Google image I found
dont lie mate
@@fybthe1987 ?
Lotta is one of my favourite characters and I was happy to see her again after justice for all they could’ve had her as the reporter in the last case of Apollo justice but they didn’t so it was nice to see her back
5:50
You see A CERTAIN MAN called Phoenix Wright with a Girl called Maya Fey or you are Blind Kay?
For the comments relating to phoenix, I'm assuming this was 2 weeks before the gavin brothers took down phoenix? And was there any real forshadowing of that here to begin with?(plus I wonder what's so Intriguing up that building that they're ignoring a crime scene with lotta of all people "quietly" taking pictures the southern way)
You missed Penny from Turnabout Samurai, she's in that last clip with Phoenix and Maya
And will powers
There is Shelly de Killer?
The first trial
The ice cream man
We soooo need some of this in a New Ace Attorney Game its become necessary to preserve these "Gems".
Yes.
And an AAI3.
"we'll meet again in war, phoenix."
I think it's probably Astique's fault Kay got amnesia
Couldn't have helped.
Astique was the true mastermind all along
you'll see phoenix defending a elephant on court now
Astique beating up Kay is amazing, I'm so glad thats how they reintroduce Regina
You forgot polly,;-;
Or I'm pretty sure I saw polly
It was just a random parrot that is conviniently the same species as Polly
@@borkedluck aweeeeee
That's sad
HOLD IT! Where is the step ladder joke? And the part where phoenix, maya and pearl riding a boat? ( which i think its in AAI not AAI2 ) and also the creator of the steel samurai in the airport?
The boat one and the airport one were both in the first game, while this video is just for the second game.
Step ladder joke was between Gregory and Raymond, however it's not an old character appereance
Looks like Maya is asking Pheonix to stare at the sun
I like how Edgeworth just added the "at least from where we are standing". As if he just felt that Phoenix was somewhere nearby, even if he is not relevant for what is going on.
That first one is sooo mean... I also forget.
ema has her pin on the lab coat, so... in what moment did she give it to phoenix?
This happens in the same year than Trials and Tribulation
He has one of her pins in Apollo justice so it was probably before he was disbarred
@@yes.8753 yes a few weeks before Phoenix's disbarement.
You forgot Penny Nichols and Will Powers... :(
Did Phoenix dye his hair?
You missed the one where Phoenix, Pearl and Maya were on a boat :))
There was another one also related to love I think but idr
But lmao how sus- whenever they’re talking about love Phoenix is in the cameo I-
That was in Investigations 1
@@yes.8753
SPOILERS⚠️ (srry I didn’t put it sooner)
I thought it was 2 because that’s when like the president dies or something
Yo Ron and Desire Delite were in the museum getting ready to steal shit too
It still annoys me we never got an official translation of this game. I played the fan translation and it's the best ace attorney game
Oh winston pain... you will never be remembered even though you've been seen a million times...
Wait who was I talking about again- nevermind i forgot
I can't believe maya was wih phoenix but iris wasn't here.. so terrible..
Why are you such an Iris fangirl?
@@tantris2876 feenris
Uhmmm cause she was in prison. plus shes never mentioned again after T&T 😔
@@rustynail7796 exactly
@@rustynail7796 The "r" and "s" in "Iris" stand for "radio silence"...
Wait didnt you forgot larry butz???? I mean laurience whatever it was, "when something smell it usually the butz"
I was way to happy to see all of these.
5:55
PSHH
Edit: Does that mean Phoenix is important to him? XD
Winston Payne: Rookie killer,
Frank Sahwit, Culprit of the first turnabout
Regina Berry, from Turnabout Big Top
Phoenix Wright and Maya Fey Cameo
It's kinda sad you don't get cameos or references from other Capcom games. Imagine a case name:
DL-6
SL-9
RE-1 (Resident Evil)
SF-2 (Street Fighter 2)
I’m looking forward to Jello and friends reacting to that last one 😁
Honestly, Regina isn't that bad.
wish there was a thrid investigation games that takes place in the dark age of law after phoenix's disbarrment
where is Penny Nichols
idk if it counts but you can kinda see her on 5:46 on the left lol
I wonder why Phoenix’s hair is brown at the last part
Maybe because of the light or something
Mr Sahwit's Prosecutor was Winston Payne so that's why Miles Edgeworth didnt recognize Frank Sahwit
Love how Penny is also there but no one acknowledges her
I really wonder how the Wright cameos will look like in the remaster
See Ema again makes me feel happy
Can someone give me a time stamp of where phoenix appears?
5:49
What About Easter Eggs In Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth 1?
Well lets see
- Payne in turnabout visitor
- Sal manella in airlines
- Phoenix, maya and pearls in kidnapped
- Mike meekins, oldbag, ema and a reference to marshall in the same case
- Lotta and larry in ablaze
And maybe some more that I have forgotten
I TOTALLY missed the last cameo while I was playing TwT
3:03 I am... an ass
There's also Will Powers
How the hell did I miss Maya and Phoenix?!?!?
love the character cameo's in the video
5:48 Why does it look like Phoenix has brown hair?
Where is LARRRRRRRRRRRRYYYYY
I can’t wait for their newer models in the remaster collection😊
I thought it wasn't available on English
Well, this one is a fan-translation. And, I must admit, they did really good work on it!
what about Larry and Money
Wasn't It only japanese?
This is a fan translation of the game.
You know. Everyone talk to payne when their first time playing the game. I mean everyone know whats paynes looks like
I love that Ron and Dessie are partners in crime now
marriage goals fr
Emma's old design is still better than her new one (fight me lol)
you missed de Killer and the parrot
When everyone started hearing turnabout big top theme again:💀
Poor Winston Payne
2:27 Just how much people died at big berry circus
To this day I think if a third investigations game were to be made it should take place before apalo justice just so we can see how edgeworth feels about Wright being disbarred they never bothered to elaborate how Phoenix's friends felt about this for some reason so.I'd imagine a third investigations game could be used to fill in the gaps.
That would require them to actually admit that AJ happened at all. And between diffrent writers writing the games now, the game being hated in japan and capcom's restrictive spoilerclause or whatever, it is unlikely that we will ever get another plot that seriously delves into Phoenix's dissbarment beyond "it happened, lol"
@@lpfan4491 they can now
@@coolcatred4922 No? It was never about "oh, people could not play AJ"(It was even ported to 3DS at some point iirc), it was about them not wanting it acknowledged.
What are those two even doing?
5:58 you missed penny from turnabout samurai
The Ema's badge on Phoenix's Cap
Phoenix hair brown?
edgeworth and ema like phoenix and maya relationship
umm they are all the people in ace attorney lolll
The interactions with Regina Berry and Miles have only convinced me further that miles is Not Straight
Uh, How? Cause hes not a horndog?
.... how'd they walk?
Did it
Awwww
I wish we had to see wright in this game...maybe we'll finally know what Edgeworth really thinks about Phoenix...I wonder if they didn't include him because
1. It would break our heart edgewright shippers
2. it would make the ship officially canon
Or just give more hopes ...idk why they didn't include him and we could talk to him like all the other old characters even though them there or talking to them wasn't very logical ...ahhhh I wish this ship would be canon I wouldn't die happy if it isn't
I didn't think it will ever be canon
By the way, why do you care if it canon it just two fake characters in a game, it not your relationship
Edgeworth thinks of Phoenix as his childhood friend. He’s said it before and so has Phoenix. The only reason Phoenix isn’t in these games is because he would steal Edgeworth’s spotlight, same reason they get rid of him when they want Apollo or Athena to have a spotlight, except they work for him, so of course he has to appear. Phoenix doesn’t work for Edgeworth or vice versa, thus, no reason to appear aside from Easter eggs like this.
Whether y’all like it or not, Edgeworth’s circle consists of: Kay, Franziska, Gumshoe, and Ema, with the only overlap between his and Phoenix’s circle being in Larry Butz, who is their mutual childhood best friend. The three of them share the same bond as signal samurai, which is why Larry appears in both games.
You can ship whatever you’d like, but there is nothing in the canon suggesting Edgeworth thinks of Phoenix in a romantic way. They’re childhood friends/rivals, and Edgeworth has at once respect and contempt for Phoenix, being a bit of a prideful fellow. Of course, Phoenix has been an influence for him, which he acknowledges by rekindling their friendship. But that’s all it is: friendship.
The only people Edgeworth has actually shown overt or very strongly hinted romantic feelings for are Kay Faraday and a one-shot character from when he travels back in time in a musical, the latter not being canon to the games.
One of the most emotional moments Edgeworth has is under a cherry blossom tree with Kay, where she explains she ran away to try and jog her memory/get his prosecutor’s badge back. Edgeworth then says Kay’s thoughts and actions always exceed his expectations.
If you know anything about Japan, you’d understand the meaning of including a cherry blossom tree/petals in this exchange, as hints of romantic feelings. The same is true in the SoJ prologue where Phoenix is standing under a cherry blossom tree whilst thinking of Maya, and Athena, who has that ability, picks up on his emotions. She has never picked up on anything re: Phoenix and Edgeworth as far as romantic feelings, though.
Kay is the sole person who fits Edgeworth and who propels him to his absolute potential. Phoenix and Maya liberated him from his feelings of guilt in the DL-6 incident, as any friend would do when seeing another suffer, but Phoenix didn’t exactly agonise over it the way Edgeworth did when Kay was endangered.
When people want to manipulate Phoenix Wright, they target Maya Fey, not Miles. So that alone should tell you everything re: whom Phoenix’s feelings belong to. As for Edgeworth, the same is true, when Simon Keyes willed to move him, he targeted Kay Faraday both physically and legally, knowing Edgeworth would not rest until he’d saved her, and that he would be angered to the point of tracking him down.
Hell, Maya is more important to Phoenix than even Trucy, and Kay managed to actually become Edgeworth’s assistant, despite him pushing her away at first. So, that alone should speak to the importance of these women to both men, and invalidate both the “he sees her as a sister/daughter” cope, since Phoenix already has a daughter, and Miles already has a sister. As far as friends, we can compare their reactions to when Larry or even each other have come under suspicion for murder/been targeted.
Of course they care, because they’re friends, but it’s not the same as when Maya and Kay respectively are targeted. I don’t think Phoenix and Edgeworth were ever meant to be a couple, and there is no evidence suggesting any sort of romantic feelings between them. So, in short, there’s nothing to confirm because the answer should already be pretty clear.
I also don’t think we’ll ever see Phoenix in these games as an investigative partner because they are rivals, and he would steal attention away from Miles, who deserves to have his own games separate from the going-ons of Phoenix Wright.
Sorry if this comes as bad news to you, but it’s pretty clear that they’re not, have never been, and will never be canon, because Phoenix belongs with Maya, and Edgeworth as per his own games with Kay.
Lastly, Rayfa also gives us a pretty good impression of how Phoenix would treat a “little sister-like” character (though Pearl also serves this function), and Edgeworth a character he considered a child. Neither treat either Maya or Kay in that manner, but as valuable partners and people they have romantic feelings for, this considering Rayfa was an investigative partner for both of them.
So, ship whatever you’d like, but it’s simply not going to be canon. I doubt Capcom will make any main cast relationship concretely canon, but Phoenix/Maya and Edgeworth/Kay definitely have the strongest canon hints/support.
Edit: “and I wouldn’t die happy if it isn’t.”
Then perish in sorrow. I’m a shipper too, but wtf. Placing so much importance on a ship, especially one as weak/unlikely to be canon as that, is not healthy. Please seek help.
Dante and EdgeLords It’s not canon and it never will be.
Phoenix clearly cares for Maya Fey, and Edgeworth for Kay Faraday.
Shipping is of course very fun for a lot of people, myself included, but these types who pester for canon confirmation, especially of ships that don’t even make sense in the first place, are really annoying.
@@fatuusdottore I know And I don't know why people ship them they just Friends and They rarely Meet too.
I thought Lotta Hart was a He
Thank you thank you long plays you made my wish come true 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯💓💓💓💓💓💓💓 you are a god
Can someone leave a like please thanks
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What's wrong with you
you cringed my eyes
5:42 is that Penny without glasses?
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I still see glasses
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This game was so good,it hurts me that i had to pirate it.
kinda wish we saw engarde