THE DJ’S AND THE M.C.’S…(Correction: Jazzy Jay was DJing with Mario in 78)

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  • @DrDerrickColon
    @DrDerrickColon  23 дні тому +14

    Let the record be set. Herc is the father and the first to play breaks for the bboys.

    • @randee4550
      @randee4550 23 дні тому

      ​@@LORDOFTHE5TH824NOBODY cares about your culture, but you.

    • @akaicruise
      @akaicruise 23 дні тому +5

      Herc is the father

    • @randee4550
      @randee4550 23 дні тому +1

      @@akaicruise Indeed

    • @abyss104
      @abyss104 23 дні тому +3

      @@LORDOFTHE5TH824 Again, Herc is the first to play breaks for the b boys.

    • @randee4550
      @randee4550 23 дні тому +2

      @@AKiEM. I call you a liar, since you presented where The Latin Breakdown was debunked (twice), according to you.

  • @IziahWhite-k1j
    @IziahWhite-k1j 23 дні тому +12

    Dr Colon. Great interview. But it just shows That Hip Hop is the Bastard Child to Black Disco. Its all Black. All the disco individuals he talks about is FBA. Its s

    • @randee4550
      @randee4550 23 дні тому

      Black Disco is the bastard child of the downtown Disco scene, of Grasso, Mancuso, Scianno, etc. And of course, the breakdown is Disco, and Disco BREAKS, are LATIN!!!! You can't escape this FACT, and you hate acknowledging this TRUTH

    • @abyss104
      @abyss104 23 дні тому +4

      @@IziahWhite-k1j FBA aren't the only artist who made Disco music. Disco music wasn't the only music played

    • @mlewisml97
      @mlewisml97 23 дні тому

      FACTS FACTS FACTS 💯

    • @deshawn3633
      @deshawn3633 11 днів тому

      ​@@abyss104mf FBA created DISCO... TF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

    • @abyss104
      @abyss104 11 днів тому

      @deshawn3633 Hip hop music was not a genre yet and the music didn't come from only one genre. Niggas still don't understand what hip hop is. Hip hop music was taken from different genres. Soul, Funk, Jazz, Pop, Rock, R&B, Disco. They took the break down part, or the bridge solo if you will and played just that. They didn't play the whole Damn record like the DJs before them. The Disco grow were more posh and mature. They wore shoes and dressed up. The hip hop crowd were more street. The wore sneakers and dressed down. Hip hop djs scratched records, they cut records. Flowers and Jones didn't do that.

  • @sreyna3000
    @sreyna3000 23 дні тому +4

    Another fantastic interview. If anyone argues with Cholly Rock , then these are the same kinds of people that would argue with the twelve apostles concerning Christ 😂

    • @redpillras3456
      @redpillras3456 23 дні тому +3

      Tariq and FBA gonna call him a tether now lol

    • @sreyna3000
      @sreyna3000 23 дні тому +3

      @@redpillras3456well the truth is the truth , you can’t rewrite history

  • @redpillras3456
    @redpillras3456 23 дні тому +6

    Tariq and his FBA cult gonna call Cholly Rock a tether now 😂

  • @barrybarry-b5h
    @barrybarry-b5h 23 дні тому +4

    Mario was late. he started around 1977 which is when he bought his system. If he was playing earlier it was under Kool Dee as he has already said many times in interviews. But Kool Dee was with JJ the Disco King around 75 and 76.

  • @AfAm-w4r
    @AfAm-w4r 12 днів тому

    Great interview. Respect.

  • @redpillras3456
    @redpillras3456 23 дні тому +8

    So why didn’t he say this in microphone check?

    • @akaicruise
      @akaicruise 23 дні тому +1

      He said they edited a certain way to fit tariqs narative

    • @redpillras3456
      @redpillras3456 23 дні тому +4

      @@akaicruisewhere he say that?

  • @SpiritualOutLaw
    @SpiritualOutLaw 23 дні тому +2

    It done and over with the world knows who the creators are, and who the contributors are . God bless you all.

    • @DrDerrickColon
      @DrDerrickColon  23 дні тому +7

      @@SpiritualOutLaw did you even watch the video. You could not have watched the whole thing because it just started at 7. It over 50 minutes long

    • @SLPGroundSoundMusic
      @SLPGroundSoundMusic 23 дні тому +2

      ​@LORDOFTHE5TH824
      1 Herc Father of the Merry-Go-Round Concept (First Concept that identify a real HipHop Dj)
      2. Flash the Father of The Quick Mix Theory (The Evolution of the merry-go-round concept)
      3. Father of the first Breaking moves
      Spy aka (The man of Thousand moves) Born in PR Puerto Rican.
      4. The Father of the Graffiti movement in NY, Julio 204 in NY Tagging, 1967 to 1970
      5 Bambaataa create the union of the elements
      so when we do the actual Math of who are the First key Investors and key creators, the major fundamental key elements, the math will equal that the Caribbeans including the Puerto Ricans created Hip Hop, Basically Hip Hop Was Created by Caribbeans and the facts
      100% point blank

    • @IlloneTWO
      @IlloneTWO 23 дні тому +2

      @@SLPGroundSoundMusic
      Ayo man LISTEN
      Julio 204 The Father of tagging 😂 kind of a stretch b

  • @barrybarry-b5h
    @barrybarry-b5h 23 дні тому +2

    the article he was talking about in the Village Voice with Steven Hagar wasn't even the first use of the term "hip-hop." The first article that used the term "hip hop" was by Michael Holman in the East Village Eye January 1982.

    • @jd-pt1xx
      @jd-pt1xx 22 дні тому +1

      And that's not even entirely true! The term was used on flyers before 82! One from July 79 for a jam at the Zoo in Brooklyn and at least 3 or 4 others in 80 and 81. We can agree Bam's interview is where many in the media picked the term from.. and he explained what it was to those not involved.. but he didn't name it at that moment. It had been in use years prior.

  • @MikeStoan
    @MikeStoan 23 дні тому +3

    I need to compare to previous videos Cholly Rock was saying years ago before Microphone Check.

  • @randee4550
    @randee4550 23 дні тому +6

    Why didn't he say any of this on Microphone Check?

    • @randee4550
      @randee4550 23 дні тому +2

      @LORDOFTHE5TH824 Which ones?

    • @abyss104
      @abyss104 23 дні тому +2

      Exactly Randee. What's up bro. It's Rich

    • @randee4550
      @randee4550 23 дні тому +1

      @@abyss104 Salute 🫡

    • @randee4550
      @randee4550 23 дні тому +1

      @LORDOFTHE5TH824 Which ones? What in Hip-Hop culture, was created by them? I need names, or it didn't happen.

    • @randee4550
      @randee4550 23 дні тому +1

      @@LORDOFTHE5TH824 Who created it? Y'all love saying who didn't create it.
      Who did? Name + creation(s) or it didn't happen

  • @mbp333
    @mbp333 23 дні тому +4

    Mario was 1st,when he came to spin in bronx river people threw toilet 🚽 off the roof because he wouldn't play apache.... make it make sense & herc created BBOYs as a derogatory term because the get down dancers would come from the east side with that dancing on the floor so they classified them as spinning tops(@$$#0[3z) dancing on the floor.

    • @DrDerrickColon
      @DrDerrickColon  23 дні тому +11

      @@mbp333 kool Dee clearly said Herc was first. Why is this a problem dude

    • @skbosdgame8435
      @skbosdgame8435 23 дні тому +4

      Play a record doesn’t mean you emphasize on a certain part of a beat melody to loop!
      If just playing apache make you one that would mean every Dj who played Apache is break beat player!
      You should make it make sense. Edit: you saying it that way that ppl were upset also proved it wasn’t Mario thing.

  • @INKREDIBLE_HULK777
    @INKREDIBLE_HULK777 23 дні тому +2

    Excellent interview. Thnka you. I have a couple of questions for Cholly:
    1. Can Cholly tell us more about DJ Ed Larock?
    Cholly claims Ed Larock was a Puerto Rican Bronx disc jockey before DJ Charlie Chase began in 1975.
    2. Did Cholly witness The Ghetto Brothers street parties in 1971?
    Benjy Melendez (the founder) says all New York street gangs were invited to The Ghetto Brothers street parties including Black Spades.
    3. Who was the DJ in The Ghetto Brothers street parties?
    4. What kind of a sound system did The Ghetto Brothers have?
    5. Were The Ghetto Brothers connecting their music systems to light poles?
    Benjy Melendez says every New York gang invited to the parties took the experience back to their neighborhoods and then began to set up outside just like The Ghetto Brothers were doing which means The Ghetto Brothers are the main root to outside street parties and park jams including connecting their sound systems to light poles in 1971.
    6. How many years did the The Ghetto Brothers street parties last?
    7. Benjy Melendez says every gang invited to the street parties were dancing to Soul, Latin, and Rock music in 1971 and Benjy saw both Blacks and Puerto Ricans spinning around on their feet.
    Did Cholly witness this event?

    • @IziahWhite-k1j
      @IziahWhite-k1j 23 дні тому +4

      They were no way Hip Hop. They were Latin Rock.

    • @CARHARTTGOD89
      @CARHARTTGOD89 23 дні тому +1

      Great questions! I'm sure "Latin Funk" late 60s-early 70s was being played in that outdoor Ghetto Brothers space

    • @INKREDIBLE_HULK777
      @INKREDIBLE_HULK777 23 дні тому +2

      @@IziahWhite-k1j Dude, that's not even a complete sentence and it is even less than an incomplete thought.
      If The Ghetto Brothers were outside putting on street parties with all the gangs in New York City, it means they had a DJ playing Soul, Latin, Rock music which also means it must have been a Puerto Rican DJ since The Ghetto Brothers were mostly a Puerto Rican street gang with a dash of Afro American members totally about 2,500 members in the South Bronx alone.
      The whole idea stems from The Ghetto Brothers, so don't be so foolish. There was no one else putting on these street jams expect for The Ghetto Brothers in 1971 after settling The Hoe Avenue Street Gang Peace Treaty.

    • @INKREDIBLE_HULK777
      @INKREDIBLE_HULK777 23 дні тому +1

      @@IziahWhite-k1j Hip Hop starts with New York City gang culture and not ordinary Black folks singing or harmonizing to doo-wop vocal groups. So "clean out your ears and then open your eyes." It was The Ghetto Brothers bringing out the speakers, microphones, turntables, and all kinds of instruments for all gang members to dance and spin to. Look at the history and study it well.

    • @IziahWhite-k1j
      @IziahWhite-k1j 23 дні тому +3

      @INKREDIBLE_HULK777 I'm just saying, nobody in the Hip Hop community recognizes what they were doing as Hip Hop. That's what I'm saying. None of the pioneers put them in the Hip Hop equation. It's not me, there's no correlation to what they were doing and the Hip Hop circles.

  • @uptownbrown3008
    @uptownbrown3008 23 дні тому +3

    FBAs diggin thru receipts: ua-cam.com/users/shorts4Rki_EQNch4?si=JRe--TQBD6q8Hmwc

    • @SLPGroundSoundMusic
      @SLPGroundSoundMusic 23 дні тому +1

      First of all, that has anything to do with Hip Hop or Breaking/Bboy,
      2nd, there were no cable or internet tv in the Bronx in the 1970s, which didn't start until the 80s !
      what do i mean with that,
      well, that in the late 60s and the 70s, kids didn't have much options to watch movies from the 40s, but also it need to be understood that kids from the 70s didn't care about watching 1930s and 40s movies or shows, they wanted to watch Kong fu, Cowboys, action movies and the tv shows and programs of the era, cartoon and the favorite music artis on tv, basically it was not popular between kids of that era to watch 1930 and 40s .. matters of facts 70s kids didn't watch anything old, specially the 70s which was the era of pop culture and different sounds and ideas...
      but anyway, fba didn't invent non of those moves. Those moves have been passed from down from every society in human history, which means that fba are contributors just like everyone else since then ..

  • @CARHARTTGOD89
    @CARHARTTGOD89 24 дні тому +4

    This is the one🤓..alot of food for thought here🧠👂 ..already rewinded back several times 😅

  • @eightisgr8t
    @eightisgr8t 23 дні тому +3

    Great Interview!

  • @rondz1234
    @rondz1234 14 днів тому

    Jamaicans and Puerto Ricans have thier own culture tho. Salso Reggae etc..... Black Americans literally created American Music Genres... So why would Jamaicans and Puerto ricans need to create Hip hop?

  • @barrybarry-b5h
    @barrybarry-b5h 23 дні тому +1

    Mario didn't even have a system in 1976 talk of playing in Co-Op city they never get the timeline right.

    • @DrDerrickColon
      @DrDerrickColon  23 дні тому

      @@barrybarry-b5h yeah he got his own sound system in 77. He had to have been using someone else’s system.

  • @redpillras3456
    @redpillras3456 14 днів тому

    You seen melle Mel response to FBA? 😂
    FBA are freaking out

    • @DrDerrickColon
      @DrDerrickColon  14 днів тому

      @@redpillras3456 yes I just uploaded it to my channel

  • @bigwill8773
    @bigwill8773 23 дні тому +1

    DJ Phase Input: ua-cam.com/video/IHj_jeoUlfk/v-deo.html

    • @DrDerrickColon
      @DrDerrickColon  23 дні тому +3

      @@bigwill8773 yeah and Cholly said phase is a liar.

    • @SLPGroundSoundMusic
      @SLPGroundSoundMusic 23 дні тому +2

      The thing is, even dj lil phase himself, who claimed "him and mario or the little Rascals" were the creators of Hip Hop, but dj lil phase himself just confirmed in a latest interview that Mario, Pete Jones, Flowers, Hollywood and whoever else, were not looping/repeating the breaks, and actually Phase said that they (i guessing lil phase and mario or his little rascals) well he said that they were not even MIXING, He actually even claimed that he started Hip Hop with ONE RECORD PLAYER AND JUST PLAYING ONE RECORD (pig meat) AND THATS HOW LIL PHASE AND THE LIL RASCALS INVENTED HIPHOP 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 🤦🏽‍♂️ which basically confirmed my facts, that every other dj before Herc's merry-go-round they were all playlist djs, not a HipHop Djs, which came after Herc's merry-go-round, Point blank case close.
      Not only that, He also claim on many of his videos of lies, that he started collecting "breaks" vinyls since he was 6 years old, but he also contradict its own statement when in that same video he also claimed that him and his little rascals used to get his records from their parents 🤷🏽‍♂️
      which finished saying that he started Hip Hop with ONE RECORD PLAYER AND JUST PLAYING ONE RECORD (pig meat), AND THATS HOW LIL PHASE AND HIS LIL RASCALS INVENTED HIPHOP 🤣

    • @SLPGroundSoundMusic
      @SLPGroundSoundMusic 22 дні тому

      ​​@@AKiEM. Sorry for popping your bubble, but needle dropping was really never a thing, bro. That would never work in a dance battle or in any DJ battle or party. The needle dropping thing was just a fun activity to do if you had a record player at home; it was a common thing among kids. So yeah, needle dropping was just a fun thing to do. As a matter of fact, Q-Tip has a video of him doing that in a studio session. But no, it was never a thing. The merry-go-round technique takes two turntables and two of the same record. The concept of the technique is that while playing the break part of one record, you need to have the other record ready at the starting point of the same break, ready to connect with the ending point of the break that is playing. You continue repeating this process over and over, which creates an endless break loop. That’s why it’s called the merry-go-round.
      so here you go and you welcome 😉, because im sure that you wanted to know what is needle dropping and the merry-go-round because you didn't understand any of it, so now you know🙂

    • @SLPGroundSoundMusic
      @SLPGroundSoundMusic 22 дні тому

      @AKiEM. 🤣😂 You definitely prove that you clearly don't know anything about this topic 😆

    • @SLPGroundSoundMusic
      @SLPGroundSoundMusic 22 дні тому

      @AKiEM. 😂

  • @Rio-uv1gs
    @Rio-uv1gs 23 дні тому +6

    The is Gold....Tariq just made up lies

    • @randee4550
      @randee4550 23 дні тому +3

      @@Rio-uv1gs Actually Tariq paid these dudes, to lie their asses off

    • @redpillras3456
      @redpillras3456 23 дні тому +2

      Tarq and his FBA cult gonna call him a tether now

    • @Rio-uv1gs
      @Rio-uv1gs 23 дні тому +2

      @@randee4550 why would they agree to do that?

    • @randee4550
      @randee4550 23 дні тому

      @Rio-uv1gs To get paid

    • @dubdjey
      @dubdjey 23 дні тому

      Xenophobic anti imigrant agenda he's trying to plant in black american community! Very sad!

  • @barrybarry-b5h
    @barrybarry-b5h 23 дні тому

    The first two articles on hip-hop was on Herc in July 1978 by Nelson george on Amsterdam News and Robert Ford in Billboard magazine. I hate when they slip in these little lies. The Steve hagar article with Bam was like in 1982. I believe it was in the Village Voice.

  • @maryarroyo2011
    @maryarroyo2011 23 дні тому

    Peace. The Funky Four were "The Brothers Disco". then The Funky Four.

  • @ky4516
    @ky4516 13 днів тому

    All this talk and still no 50/50 Mr colon.

  • @SLPGroundSoundMusic
    @SLPGroundSoundMusic 23 дні тому +6

    1 Herc Father of the Merry-Go-Round Concept (First Concept that identify a real HipHop Dj)
    2. Flash the Father of The Quick Mix Theory (The Evolution of the merry-go-round concept)
    3. Father of the first Breaking moves
    Spy aka (The man of Thousand moves) Born in PR Puerto Rican.
    4. The Father of the Graffiti movement in NY, Julio 204 in NY Tagging, 1967 to 1970
    5 Bambaataa create the union of the elements
    so when we do the actual Math of who are the First key Inventors and key creators, of the major fundamental key elements, the math will equal that the Caribbeans including Puerto Ricans created Hip Hop, Basically Hip Hop Was Created by Caribbeans and thats 100% facts point blank.

    • @uptownbrown3008
      @uptownbrown3008 23 дні тому

      Looking thru the FBA recipts: ua-cam.com/users/shorts4Rki_EQNch4?si=JRe--TQBD6q8Hmwc

    • @IziahWhite-k1j
      @IziahWhite-k1j 23 дні тому +1

      1)Coke La Rock, introduced the spoken word Mc'ing first with HH party. 2) Pete Dj Jones, first to rock two turntables and Loop the break parts in spurts. Also mentored GM Flash, Dee/ Tyrone, Love bug Starsky, Kurtis Blow, and many more in HH 3) Disco King Mario, The first HH Impresario in the early days. He was a great Dj and businessman in the streets at a young age. He could get venues nobody else could get for HH to be showcased, 4) Grand Wizard Theodore invented scratching to the record a new innovation never scene before, 5) TT Rock invented floor rocking. Batch always credits him for the concept of going to the floor. If TT Rock never does this move Pr's would never have went to floor, they would still be up rocking. So this new move by an FBA youth they would be no breaking. So FBA is essential to the development of Hip Hop.

    • @SLPGroundSoundMusic
      @SLPGroundSoundMusic 23 дні тому +2

      @IziahWhite-k1j
      Coke La Rock himself said that, The work "Jibaro" by The Puerto Rican Felipe Luciano of the Last Poets served as primary inspiration for MCing. The Last Poets were comprised of individuals from African and Caribbean backgrounds, not fba
      3. Father of the first Breaking moves
      Spy aka (The man of Thousand moves) Born in PR Puerto Rican. started creating his first moves between 72-73 when he was in 4th grade and stablish The CC Crew in 75

    • @IziahWhite-k1j
      @IziahWhite-k1j 23 дні тому +1

      @@SLPGroundSoundMusic my brotha I'm sorry, you can say all u want about Pr's and contributions and that's it contributions. Not creation or Co Creation. NYC FBA community created Hip Hop. Liv wit it

    • @SLPGroundSoundMusic
      @SLPGroundSoundMusic 23 дні тому +1

      @IziahWhite-k1j When it comes to the definition of inventing and creating, and when we search invention and Creation within Hip Hop in 1970s fba is not mentioned or recognized in that field because fba didn't invent or create anything in Hip Hop, all that is credit to Caribbeans descendants.
      Here is some more Historical records of turntablism
      Walter Winchell coined the term "disc jockey In 1935
      In 1943, radio DJ Jimmy Savile launched the world's first DJ dance party
      In 1947, he claims to have become the first DJ to use twin turntables for continuous play
      In 1969, American club DJ Francis Grasso popularized beatmatching at New York's Sanctuary nightclub
      Grasso also developed slip-cuing, a technique long used in radio, where holding a record still while the turntable is revolving underneath and releasing it at the desired moment created a sudden transition from the previous record.
      Mexican born Agustin Martinez, resident of the famous Acapulco "Tequila a Go-Go" Nightclub, has been credited with being the first Club DJ that mixed tracks and edited them live in 1964. A new club in Acapulco was founded a few years later called "Armando's Le Club".
      Neighborhood block parties that were modeled after Jamaican sound systems gained popularity in Europe and in the boroughs of New York City.

  • @sreyna3000
    @sreyna3000 23 дні тому

    Cash money !

  • @bigwill8773
    @bigwill8773 18 днів тому +2

    FBAs diggin thru the crates! Jamaican elders telling folk they got their music from FBAs: ua-cam.com/video/Bw5fmB0LyiE/v-deo.html