"You can never step through the same river 3 time... Or was it 5 times?... The uuuhhh... The ocean... It's huge... And uh, has a lot of water... Well anyways, who are you again? And what's an Orc Shaman?"
@@butterphli3z You’re attempting to intimidate me in front of my father has failed. Unfortunately for you I’m a really big guy at 5 foot 8 168pounds. Also, I’m not “on” the internet so how can I get off it? Next time you try to intimidate me I’ll contact a higher power.
remember last time when everyone said they wanted to take it slow, enjoy themselves and have fun then they all sat inside the same 5 dungeons all the way to 60 then cried about raidlogging in week 3 of the release? lmao. I bet the exact same thing happens again
@@jacque3427 My friend got banned from turtle wow for farming without knowing what a GM is. He was new to wow and turtle was his first time playing it. He was frozen in place and when he didn't replace to the gm he was banned. He told me there wasn't any staff or blizzard icon next to the guys name either which most of the good servers have.
I'm of two minds about dual specs. I think 20 years ago, I would've loved having dual specs so I could farm on my balance or feral druid and then switch to resto for raiding. Now, I think with 20 years of game knowledge, it's probably not necessary anymore.
honestly playing on your own private server with botts and your friends is a better experience than playing current day classic wow. meta gamers kinda killed the magic.
100% people still bumrush the game with people mega tryharding raids that have been solved for 20 years. What made classic special for me was exactly that you could take it slow and still have an awesome time, immerse yourself, difficulty through hardcore etc but in modern gaming the aim for most people seems to rusj through the game as fast as possible for some reason
you see it in other games genres to. CoD. from a shooter to wallrunning double jumping madness. fortnite where they build towers in crazy little of time. i gues thats the new generation.
Yea no kidding. I see this channel's videos in my recommended and had to do a double take to make it sure it was the same one with titles like "have we lost sight of what makes classic classic" and "when classic wow really died" like holy shit, talk about Stockholm Syndrome.
Has mental breakdown for no-lifeing R14, quits wow because flavour of the month says its bad, continues to make WoW content, hypes up Fresh classic classic. These guys are all terminally addicted in the dumb way and just want to farm views from blizz shills.
There's also ascension wow if you want something different. It's Wotlk client 3.3.5, current exp is TBC since is progressive realm and it's classless with lot of cool features(classless, custom mystic enchants that change skills entirely, prestige leveling, hardcore leveling challenges, manastorms that are basicly mini dungeons that can be done solo or in a group, OPTIONAL high-risk pvp where players can drop everything, transmog, lots of other cool custom stuff actually developed by developers with UI like a custom hero architect where you can make builds and share with other players, a vanity item collection that stores almost all convenience items.) I've been playing for a few months now and it's a breath of fresh air.
The problem is we as veteranplayer chase nostalgia, which will never be the same like playing the game for the first time. Maybe it's time to let go for good and move on to other games and let wow rest. It's like chasing the same ex over and over again to only get a heartbreak again. It will never be the same
It's a fair point. But is there anything out there that can even come close to scratching the same itch? I really enjoyed my second time through Classic, TBC, and Wrath up until they put in the token when I quit on the spot. The bots didn't ruin my experience. I never participated in a GDKP run so that didn't alter it for me. I still had to deal with old school guild drama, getting screwed out of loot and having to G quit and find a new guild in SSC. Basically all of the old vibes were still there. IDK if there is another game out there that can deliver on what Classic, even with it not being the same as the first time around, has to offer. I don't plan on playing it again. I just wish that there was a better alternative. That, I would play.
They always cater to the loudest minority of complainers without actually looking at the stats that like 99% of players level up slow and don't raid. If they rush to tbc in 1 year it is proof that they don't care about the players.
@@Shokisan1 theey shouldnt have started classic again agin again now, most people wanted tbc again not classic because it was available for every donut out there for 5 years. Complete fail by blizzard. Just make yearly resetting classic era for the andies that want that "fresh"... cough.... . And what we actually want, classic/tbc/wotlk legacy servers. Blizard again fails to see what the people realy wnt and what their own games were giving already.
While Classic in 2019 felt awesome at first, it quickly turned into a minmaxing, antisocial pile of poop. Wish I could be excited, but I'm not anymore. It will never be the same again.
This is why I am going with my friend on a hardcore server. The dungeons there are limited to 1 per day of the same dungeon. So you can do all of them in the same day but not spam the same one. Also game pace is a lot more realistic with no real rushing as that's otherwise prone to dying. You feel like actually plying a game, a rpg game instead of a treadmill speedrun to 60 and being burnout mid-way. Doing professions while leveling feels more rewarding to me on hc because on normal server I would prefer to rush to 60 first before doing professions. 60 mount eases doing professions but makes profession items below 60 lvl useless.
@@Bleiser3 Maybe I'll give HC another chance. It really was as you described, but my first death by disconnection felt horrible and I never touched it again.
@@SnuSnu91same happened to me. But I picked it up again recently because of a friend and it really is the closest thing you can get to a real classic wow experience.
You can cover the botting problem Blizzard has been and will continue to ignore. No chance I'm coming back until that is dealt with. If free private servers can figure it out Blizzard has no excuse.
That was a major reason why I left Blizz servers. It was so blatantly obvious and I would report them every time, but it just got to be too much. They should've had GMs to take care of it, but they cheaped out.
Botters and hackers are insane there has not been a single pr server that has allowed even 30% of the bots and hackers. Like lit soo many people bot and hack it ruins everything. Here I am wanting a patch by patch experience for these older versions they don't even wanna ban fly hackers :D. I remember in 2019 noticing the huge problem. Then went to try retail same thing. Came back for cata pvp with a friend got to 2300-2400 and fucking 3 out of 5 games will have a scripter with 600 plus rpm....
I’m very glad dual spec will be a part of these servers. However, I think it would be fair to find a way to keep the rpg element the same in making it a requirement to visit the class trainer to do this. Gets rid of having to gold sink every week if you don’t want to be stuck in heal spec, but keeps the class trainers from becoming irrelevant. I think the classic developers intended for them to be a core aspect and those philosophies should be respected. In SoD I haven’t gone to the class trainer since phase 4.
You still have to visit the class trainer every 2 levels most of the time, especially on Hardcore. It just saves having to hearth/travel back or get summoned
I dont really like that idea because I'd rather have the flexibility in every zone I'm in. Imagine being a hybrid with a OS as a healer and a group needs a healer in your current zone. Traveling to a trainer and back could take you almost longer then the dungeon itself. So I' rather propose that you can only change your spec in a resting zone. I think that has enough RP potential and also prohibits raid swapping.
@@DIEGhostfish why though ? you'd have to wait for the person to hearth/portal and then get summoned back, it is literally just an inconvenience at this stage
been watching your channel since the legion days and came around to subbing right when BFA came out, use to fall asleep to your armaments of azeroth series. I've since stopped playing wow but I do continue to appreciate your creativity here, thanks for all the solid nights sleep monotone man.
Started playing at the end of Vanilla and left 3 months into Pandaria.Completely burnt out. When classic came out,i didn't even consider it for a moment. I still listen to WOW music though :)
Another content creator who built a channel and a living on providing certain content, then gets bored of that content, and thinks they can successfully change what they cover to just whatever they want without a heavy impact to the channel. You do you but I’m here for WoW content.
To me, having played the game since the 2004 release, I don't understand why they don't just remake Classic but with the exact type of fixes like dual spec. They have the opportunity to take everything QoL related that *doesn't* compromise the core game (like dungeon finder/phasing/faction change etc) and add it to Classic. They even have the chance to create a different timeline where TBC doesn't arrive, so that we can continue in Classic after Naxx.
I appreciate your work. A wow historian who was there at the time adds a lot. If you want to keep checking it out, I'd like an update on your old school experience. They're such different games and tended to divide the MMO enjoyers when I was in school so I'd be curious to hear a former wow players perspective.
To me, vanilla is about the tight knit communities, making a name for yourself & remembering the name of that pesky ganker in Redridge. I am quite sure Blizzard has made the choice to have mega servers with layering just so they can scale back on the amount of layers when people start leaving. That way they can still make it look like the world is as vibrant and alive as ever. Besides, I'm a #nochanges guy and I really dislike the idea of "QoL" in vanilla, but that's a topic for a different day I guess...
I love playing Retail (insert future expansion name here) Battle for Azeroth Classic Cataclysm Classic Classic And Classic Classic Classic at the same time! Gosh, Blizzard is out of ideas at this point. Some day, all players will be split into 4 Different expansions and versions of WoW, and the environments will be empty, and que times will take forever, for a simple BG or dungeon. Great. They really need the money from every small group of players who like to play a specific expansion. Just open up one realm for every expansion from the past 20 years, would be a lot easier... and people can take their character to every expansion they want, anytime they want. Instead, another roadmap to following expansions, urgh
Your evolution of wow video back in 2017 made me return to wow and ive been watching like every single video you upload since then. What I want to say is THANK YOU.
I just met my girlfriend late last year. She had never played wow before but shes gotten to near max level on retail this year. We're very excited to spend the next 3 days off playing classic! 😄
"Son, I've taught you all I know, it's time for you to begin your own adventures now." Thanks, UA-cam dad. I'll catch ya in the Deadmines, Madseason. o7
The faster cadence is exactly what puts me off of it this time. I’m not trying to do classic speed runs; I still want that vanilla authentic experience. That includes the same length of time for each patch, or at least close to it. I won’t even get into the other changes they’re making. Think I’ll pass this time around though.
you are my favorite youtuber. When I hear your voice commenting on wow classic, I dive right back in. Thank you for your work, I hope that you will continue to make us positive videos full of nostalgia for a long time.
Watched you stream your Grand Marshall grind. Those few times in you wrecked in AB were great. I was a warrior main before quitting at the end of cataclysm in 2012.
That’s what I was thinking seeing people get excited because there will be more healers and tanks while leveling like nah people will have 2 dps specs there’s a shortage of tanks and healers in retail and there’s unlimited respecs 😂
Thank you for this video because I honestly didn't know this news. I've been wanting to jump back into Classic but was worried about leveling to 60 on a dead server. We are so back.
Don't just be an analyst! Be a combination analyst/therapist for WoW. Maybe someone can come up with a cool title that combines those things. Love you man!
Because there were no boosts in vanilla and paying to skip what many view as the point of the game invalidates the time investment of others if you can just buy it
i love classic and the minor changes help with the times. all of the stuff they’ve changed doesn’t change the RPG aspects for me. only makes it more modern. i know classic purists have their gripes with it but this has just made me so excited.
I honestly don't really see the appeal of yet another classic launch, especially with this roadmap. I quit halfway through the 2019 classic release due to the bots becoming a huge issue and due to the community adopting playstyles that I very much disliked (Scarlet Monastery AoE boosting, world buff stacking, etc). It became harder and harder to find people with a more laid back mindset who just wanted to see the content and explore azeroth again, everyone had to optimize everything all the time. Those kinds of issues aren't going anywhere. I'll be keeping to private servers, thank you very much.
"Blizzard brought him back. They're gonna make him do this until he's 90" Classic Vanilla Classic Classic Warlords of Draenor retirement home party, HYPE!
Well, let’s hope since this is a some changes, they will also change the TBC Dark Portal thingy to not being a thing and also not add the Wrath WoW Token One can hope, but we know the Blizzard all too well to expect such a thing..
I love Vanilla so much, and while i think the game itself stands the test of time, the community didn't. This is why I and many others are really excited that you've been trying your hand at OSRS. I hope you continue to enjoy it! Edit: The path you've chosen is an unforgiving one for a first go 'round, don't be afraid to peek at our beloved wiki if you get stuck on something BS!
I'll never forget getting steamrolled by the madseason pre-made during his r14 grind and spam waving at him and the man waved back during the carnage. What a guy.
Good to see you jumping into the Re-RE-launch of Classic! And congrats for the 700+ uploads and 10 years of content, you have a great channel, definitely my favorite WoW channel out there. Take it easy and see ya on the server!
@@free29ct no it's not because you watch a movie, not partipate in a community with new and different experiences each new adventure. It's like complaining about people liking golf cause it's the same game every time
@meh I guess it’s just me then I want a new fresh experience something new like classic wow but a game that isn’t solved and fully explored already a new game
You could hear the grin when you quoted Springer, I’ve been here long enough lol. And btw I never tired of the chrono trigger scores 🗡️🐸 and have Lol mads as I game! Happy anniversary
I'm looking forward to this as my last hurrah in WoW, my sub ends Dec 1, so I'm gonna try and hit 60 before it ends. Been playing since I was 9 in 2006, account was my dad's before he passed away, he'd been playing since early 2004 in the beta. Retail isn't my vibe anymore, and while I like Classic I really don't like Blizzard & they seem to hate me so I finally stopped giving them money. Except TBC & the newest one I have collectors editions of every expansion (even vanilla like you talked about earlier today). Maybe I'm just too political but the straw that broke the camel's back was the bearded lady dwarves, but for the last few years I've realized that Blizzard really doesn't like guys like me. Despite no longer playing the game I will continue to look forward to the historical & other wow videos you do, keep it up man.
Insane that people are hyped for a NON-patch by patch experience by the company that made the game and settle for a 1.12. 2.4.3 last patch treatment like its some small dev team of 3 people and not a billion dollar company. Oh and lets no forget the bots and hackers..... People who play classic and pay a sub for this game are the reason it will never regain its former glory cause you accept bad games.
The HD texture pack from cata looks great too. What the game became visually in MOP was shit, and everything from then on. But the HD texture pack is super Classic, just updated.
@XlelouchVi I think this time around, it will die pretty quickly. People will realize the time commitment you need for classic. In 2019, it peaked when the lock downs happened so people had alot of time to get into classic, this time unless you have a part time job it won't be all that appealing. No gdkp's will mean alot of people will not get the desired gear throughout each patch and will most probably quit.
@@Mecrazyeyes oh so your salty because you cant buy chinese bot gold and get every bit of gear you want in 3 months and quit because you "ran out of content" lol
@moodfm5673 Nice one, bud. If you would like to know, Ive always been with my DKP guild. Just look at classic era servers it's 90% GDKP. Use your brain
I swear madseason is the only person who cares about Duel Spec and gold sinks 😂 I dont know anyone who plays and doesnt want less classic BS to spend gold on.
It's probably too late to start Classic Classic. I'll wait another 5 years for Classic Classic Classic
lol this is win.
Congrats you won the internet today lol
Did not expect Kino to be a wow fan lol
Lmao! As for myself, I’m sticking with the Classic (“Era”?) that I’ve been playing since 2019. Just rolled a new pally today, too!
See you tommrow
I’ll play it again in 40 years pleasantly suffering from dementia
"You can never step through the same river 3 time... Or was it 5 times?... The uuuhhh... The ocean... It's huge... And uh, has a lot of water... Well anyways, who are you again? And what's an Orc Shaman?"
Thatcher will help you to get a "fresh experience" :)
@@antonbonin5003 Ideal scenario🤞😅
Hyruler BBQ 😂😂😂😂
Just play Turtle wow, the true classic+ experience! Turtle WoW Hype! Turtle WoW Hype!
I cant wait to kill Ragnaros for the first time for the 3rd time
Hahhahahaha bro :D
That doesn’t make any sense. You can’t kill him 3 times for the first time. You can only attempt the boss once per week so that lie was obvious.
@@TheImSource get off the internet you don't deserve it, i am revoking your licence.
@@butterphli3z You’re attempting to intimidate me in front of my father has failed. Unfortunately for you I’m a really big guy at 5 foot 8 168pounds. Also, I’m not “on” the internet so how can I get off it?
Next time you try to intimidate me I’ll contact a higher power.
@@TheImSource You’ve earned a sympathy upvote. I hope things get better for you bud. 🫡
remember last time when everyone said they wanted to take it slow, enjoy themselves and have fun then they all sat inside the same 5 dungeons all the way to 60 then cried about raidlogging in week 3 of the release? lmao.
I bet the exact same thing happens again
Pilavs Classic WoW videos are masterpieces and probably the best content it had
@@Jaybee82let me introduce you to Barny and swockwickdus
@@Jaybee82 Pilav is the best wow 'content creator' mainly because he rips into all the other ones
@@Jaybee82lol ?
@@Afflictamineyou're so edgy man very cool
Wow classics has become the official timescale of where I live. My son was born the year of classic the second. And I am 8 classic wows old
Just play Turtle wow, the true classic+ experience! Turtle WoW Hype! Turtle WoW Hype!
@@djshade69 what is it exactly is that ? A fork ? How many players ?
@@djshade69 unfortunately the horrible 1.0 client, and meaningless class changes, push me away from Twow
@@jacque3427 My friend got banned from turtle wow for farming without knowing what a GM is. He was new to wow and turtle was his first time playing it. He was frozen in place and when he didn't replace to the gm he was banned. He told me there wasn't any staff or blizzard icon next to the guys name either which most of the good servers have.
Lmao its like the olympic games in ancient greece
Some of your favorite flavors.....IS VANILLA!
VANILLA!
VANNILLA!!!!!!!!!!!! THE PROFICY WAS TRUE!!!!!!
its time for a wow remake
I'm of two minds about dual specs. I think 20 years ago, I would've loved having dual specs so I could farm on my balance or feral druid and then switch to resto for raiding. Now, I think with 20 years of game knowledge, it's probably not necessary anymore.
*CHILLS*
Congrats on 10 years!
Thank you! :D
Just play Turtle wow, the true classic+ experience! Turtle WoW Hype! Turtle WoW Hype!
Only 10 years, feels longer lmao !
@@madseasonshow bro are u broke again? what is with this janky ass vdieo lol
That guy in classic who needed the curropted ashbringer for his warlock pet in Legion is looking more and more sane.
LMAO
Nah. He's waiting for MOP to drop with his Felguard out, holding the Ashbringer and standing on the SW bank steps all day.
How long until WoW surpasses Skyrim for total number of re-releases?
Don't underestimate Bethesda, Skyrim will be released at least seven or either more times before they have TES6 ready.
The same company owns both IP’s now so thats a complete possibility
at least you don't have to pay in wow's case, just 1 sub for all versions
@@lnwolf7563 And I'll replay it 😂
If Blizzard won't have active GMs or ban bots, then what the hell is the point?
The point is cash. No cash no ticket.
The point is "LOOKING FOR MORE, HOGGER! DON'T BE NOOB" and "INVITE ASMON LAYER"
Idk if you've been playing sod but they have cut down a lot on botting
@@soquality9405because gdkps don't exist
honestly playing on your own private server with botts and your friends is a better experience than playing current day classic wow. meta gamers kinda killed the magic.
100% people still bumrush the game with people mega tryharding raids that have been solved for 20 years.
What made classic special for me was exactly that you could take it slow and still have an awesome time, immerse yourself, difficulty through hardcore etc but in modern gaming the aim for most people seems to rusj through the game as fast as possible for some reason
you see it in other games genres to. CoD. from a shooter to wallrunning double jumping madness. fortnite where they build towers in crazy little of time. i gues thats the new generation.
Streamers/content creators ruin games
wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that all of them are heavily addicted to adderall / other stimulants
omg people enjoy the game in different ways holy shit thats crazy am i right??
IMO in such a old and solved game its pretty normal to do. I dont really want to take it slow in a part of the game that I played to death already.
"i m done with wow" - only releases wow content from that point on KEKW
Yea no kidding. I see this channel's videos in my recommended and had to do a double take to make it sure it was the same one with titles like "have we lost sight of what makes classic classic" and "when classic wow really died"
like holy shit, talk about Stockholm Syndrome.
@@leavestrace5493 HAHAHA, this is peak "WoW" Brainrot
Was looking for this comment, how many times has this guy said he's quitting wow only to be back in 6 months lol praising the game lol?
Has mental breakdown for no-lifeing R14, quits wow because flavour of the month says its bad, continues to make WoW content, hypes up Fresh classic classic. These guys are all terminally addicted in the dumb way and just want to farm views from blizz shills.
Merry Christmas, see you in WOW! Stop playing that browser game 👍
old school hype old school hype
Need episode 2....
old school old school hype
6 days hypeeeeee
Genuinely glad to see him experience the game! Old school hype!!
Thanks Mad. For these 10 years
Happy 10th anniversary! Can't believe I've already been watching for a decade. HEY where'd my hair go all of a sudden???
I can't justify giving blizzard any more money.
But I hope you enjoy your classic classic classic classic WoW
Come to TurtleWoW we be having big fun. :)
@@HeavenlyPhantomStar bruh yes!
@@HeavenlyPhantomStar Turtle has been a blessing, its made me fall in love with WoW again
@@HeavenlyPhantomStarI always have been curious
There's also ascension wow if you want something different. It's Wotlk client 3.3.5, current exp is TBC since is progressive realm and it's classless with lot of cool features(classless, custom mystic enchants that change skills entirely, prestige leveling, hardcore leveling challenges, manastorms that are basicly mini dungeons that can be done solo or in a group, OPTIONAL high-risk pvp where players can drop everything, transmog, lots of other cool custom stuff actually developed by developers with UI like a custom hero architect where you can make builds and share with other players, a vanity item collection that stores almost all convenience items.) I've been playing for a few months now and it's a breath of fresh air.
The problem is we as veteranplayer chase nostalgia, which will never be the same like playing the game for the first time. Maybe it's time to let go for good and move on to other games and let wow rest. It's like chasing the same ex over and over again to only get a heartbreak again. It will never be the same
It's a fair point. But is there anything out there that can even come close to scratching the same itch? I really enjoyed my second time through Classic, TBC, and Wrath up until they put in the token when I quit on the spot. The bots didn't ruin my experience. I never participated in a GDKP run so that didn't alter it for me. I still had to deal with old school guild drama, getting screwed out of loot and having to G quit and find a new guild in SSC. Basically all of the old vibes were still there. IDK if there is another game out there that can deliver on what Classic, even with it not being the same as the first time around, has to offer. I don't plan on playing it again. I just wish that there was a better alternative. That, I would play.
@@Davivd2thats his point. itch something else. dont itch the same thing until it is raw
I think the bigger problem is they are going to try and rush through everything in under a year to get TBC out. That will ruin this if it happens.
Not if you're waiting for TBC lol
They always cater to the loudest minority of complainers without actually looking at the stats that like 99% of players level up slow and don't raid. If they rush to tbc in 1 year it is proof that they don't care about the players.
@@Shokisan1 theey shouldnt have started classic again agin again now, most people wanted tbc again not classic because it was available for every donut out there for 5 years. Complete fail by blizzard. Just make yearly resetting classic era for the andies that want that "fresh"... cough.... . And what we actually want, classic/tbc/wotlk legacy servers. Blizard again fails to see what the people realy wnt and what their own games were giving already.
screw TBC, boring ass expac
....TBC HYPE!!!
Happy 10 year anniversary, Happy Thanksgiving, and Merry Christmas, Mad! Thanks for all the great videos over the years.
While Classic in 2019 felt awesome at first, it quickly turned into a minmaxing, antisocial pile of poop. Wish I could be excited, but I'm not anymore. It will never be the same again.
This is why I am going with my friend on a hardcore server. The dungeons there are limited to 1 per day of the same dungeon.
So you can do all of them in the same day but not spam the same one.
Also game pace is a lot more realistic with no real rushing as that's otherwise prone to dying.
You feel like actually plying a game, a rpg game instead of a treadmill speedrun to 60 and being burnout mid-way.
Doing professions while leveling feels more rewarding to me on hc because on normal server I would prefer to rush to 60 first before doing professions.
60 mount eases doing professions but makes profession items below 60 lvl useless.
People just wanna go back to 2005 but it's not possible
Try hardcore
@@Bleiser3 Maybe I'll give HC another chance. It really was as you described, but my first death by disconnection felt horrible and I never touched it again.
@@SnuSnu91same happened to me. But I picked it up again recently because of a friend and it really is the closest thing you can get to a real classic wow experience.
Already did classic in 04, and 2019. I’ve had my share lol
See you tomorrow
Yea you ain’t fooling anyone dawg.. we know why you’re here commenting
Now watch, when P2 starts they'll roll out a character boost.
Ready for the next OSRS vid too!
Congratulations for 10 years, that is a massive milestone!
You can cover the botting problem Blizzard has been and will continue to ignore. No chance I'm coming back until that is dealt with. If free private servers can figure it out Blizzard has no excuse.
That was a major reason why I left Blizz servers. It was so blatantly obvious and I would report them every time, but it just got to be too much. They should've had GMs to take care of it, but they cheaped out.
Botters and hackers are insane there has not been a single pr server that has allowed even 30% of the bots and hackers. Like lit soo many people bot and hack it ruins everything. Here I am wanting a patch by patch experience for these older versions they don't even wanna ban fly hackers :D. I remember in 2019 noticing the huge problem. Then went to try retail same thing. Came back for cata pvp with a friend got to 2300-2400 and fucking 3 out of 5 games will have a scripter with 600 plus rpm....
Vanilla wow for the OG gamers can never get old
Its in our DNA now 😊
Good to hear from you man, glad you're staying true to yourself (That's why we love you).
I’m very glad dual spec will be a part of these servers. However, I think it would be fair to find a way to keep the rpg element the same in making it a requirement to visit the class trainer to do this. Gets rid of having to gold sink every week if you don’t want to be stuck in heal spec, but keeps the class trainers from becoming irrelevant. I think the classic developers intended for them to be a core aspect and those philosophies should be respected.
In SoD I haven’t gone to the class trainer since phase 4.
You still have to visit the class trainer every 2 levels most of the time, especially on Hardcore. It just saves having to hearth/travel back or get summoned
@@Afflictamine I would juat rather free respec at the trainer. No easy mid-raid swaps
Just play Turtle wow, the true classic+ experience! Turtle WoW Hype! Turtle WoW Hype!
I dont really like that idea because I'd rather have the flexibility in every zone I'm in. Imagine being a hybrid with a OS as a healer and a group needs a healer in your current zone. Traveling to a trainer and back could take you almost longer then the dungeon itself. So I' rather propose that you can only change your spec in a resting zone. I think that has enough RP potential and also prohibits raid swapping.
@@DIEGhostfish why though ? you'd have to wait for the person to hearth/portal and then get summoned back, it is literally just an inconvenience at this stage
I started watching you with your time warp series. It's been 7 years since then; I feel old!
an addict losing the battle to a drug
been watching your channel since the legion days and came around to subbing right when BFA came out, use to fall asleep to your armaments of azeroth series. I've since stopped playing wow but I do continue to appreciate your creativity here, thanks for all the solid nights sleep monotone man.
Thank you, didn't even realize this was happening. You're the best
I had fun revisiting in 2019. Nothing will ever be like classic. It’s unfair, it’s toxic, but it’s exciting. Destroyed my mental health 10/10
Started playing at the end of Vanilla and left 3 months into Pandaria.Completely burnt out.
When classic came out,i didn't even consider it for a moment.
I still listen to WOW music though :)
Another content creator who built a channel and a living on providing certain content, then gets bored of that content, and thinks they can successfully change what they cover to just whatever they want without a heavy impact to the channel. You do you but I’m here for WoW content.
10 years man, that's wild. Congrats! 🎉❤
To me, having played the game since the 2004 release, I don't understand why they don't just remake Classic but with the exact type of fixes like dual spec. They have the opportunity to take everything QoL related that *doesn't* compromise the core game (like dungeon finder/phasing/faction change etc) and add it to Classic. They even have the chance to create a different timeline where TBC doesn't arrive, so that we can continue in Classic after Naxx.
why put in that amount of work, when you can just rerelease the exact same game and add a single feature every 5 years?
@@ruamzuzla5085 I guess that in my alternate timeline in-game, Blizzard is still a good company with our interests at heart IRL too :(
Welcome to SoD. Karazhan & Scarlet Monastery Raids incoming soon.
@@blobblab3020 I'm thinking of playing it, seems fun.
I appreciate your work. A wow historian who was there at the time adds a lot.
If you want to keep checking it out, I'd like an update on your old school experience. They're such different games and tended to divide the MMO enjoyers when I was in school so I'd be curious to hear a former wow players perspective.
I can't even imagine how bad it's gonna be when everybody is playing on one single server.
To me, vanilla is about the tight knit communities, making a name for yourself & remembering the name of that pesky ganker in Redridge. I am quite sure Blizzard has made the choice to have mega servers with layering just so they can scale back on the amount of layers when people start leaving. That way they can still make it look like the world is as vibrant and alive as ever.
Besides, I'm a #nochanges guy and I really dislike the idea of "QoL" in vanilla, but that's a topic for a different day I guess...
@@henriklovold Bro we're talking about the Lags and the Server crashes not about the Gameplay
10 years!!! I remember finding your channel when Hayven was still with us!!
hyped to hear you will be playing fresh! i hope you have a great time man, see you around on dreamscythe!
I’m not ready to relive 2020 just yet.
Been watching since the beginning! Was numbed out when you said you were hanging it up. And so glad you came back
I love playing Retail (insert future expansion name here)
Battle for Azeroth Classic
Cataclysm Classic Classic
And Classic Classic Classic
at the same time! Gosh, Blizzard is out of ideas at this point. Some day, all players will be split into 4 Different expansions and versions of WoW, and the environments will be empty, and que times will take forever, for a simple BG or dungeon. Great.
They really need the money from every small group of players who like to play a specific expansion.
Just open up one realm for every expansion from the past 20 years, would be a lot easier... and people can take their character to every expansion they want, anytime they want.
Instead, another roadmap to following expansions, urgh
Here we go again...again...again
Your evolution of wow video back in 2017 made me return to wow and ive been watching like every single video you upload since then. What I want to say is THANK YOU.
You have been missed! Good to hear your voice 😊
wdym? he made a video 12 days ago.
@@gojiramonster2388they probably didn't get the notification cause the algorithm be like that for some
Love you brother your narration has been right up there with Carl sagan and Morgan freeman. Be well and we shall see you again soon.
I just met my girlfriend late last year. She had never played wow before but shes gotten to near max level on retail this year. We're very excited to spend the next 3 days off playing classic! 😄
have fun bro, sounds sweet
Make sure you both know how you bless each other and love each other in a tangible way.
The things I would do for my girlfriend to play and enjoy wow :/ maybe one day!
"Son, I've taught you all I know, it's time for you to begin your own adventures now."
Thanks, UA-cam dad. I'll catch ya in the Deadmines, Madseason. o7
More power to anyone who can do this all over again.
Grats on your anniversary dude. You are a legend.
Dont really feel it this time, don't feel like redoing classic fresh for the millionth time.
Same... so see you there i guess.
"You think you do, but you don't!"
The faster cadence is exactly what puts me off of it this time. I’m not trying to do classic speed runs; I still want that vanilla authentic experience. That includes the same length of time for each patch, or at least close to it. I won’t even get into the other changes they’re making. Think I’ll pass this time around though.
you are my favorite youtuber. When I hear your voice commenting on wow classic, I dive right back in. Thank you for your work, I hope that you will continue to make us positive videos full of nostalgia for a long time.
Congrats on 10 years Mads!
Finally new classic servers! Hype!
Happy holidays Mad Season - hope you're gonna be streaming!
The “I told you so btw” is never getting old 😂😂😂
My body is ready
Doomin hard
Watched you stream your Grand Marshall grind. Those few times in you wrecked in AB were great. I was a warrior main before quitting at the end of cataclysm in 2012.
Another Classic WoW launch?
Classic
When we gonna get Classic War Witin... that's the ONLY way ill ever step foot into classic again..
i fucking love how you wont let go off the lvltoken and always remind us "i told you so". truly ❤
Happy 10 year anniversary! Hope to see you on Hardcore! Either way happy holidays
From "You don't want that" to the only thing keeping Blizzard afloat.
If you think classic is somehow they "only thing keeping blizzard afloat" you're incredibly delusional.
@@SashenkaKun
If you don't know what hyperbole is then you're an idiot.
You should take a look at the numbers for certain retail mounts or skins in overwatch. It's disgusting...
@@SashenkaKun Hyperbole, ever hear of it?
They are desperate.
Need to retain those sub numbers by keeping the hamster stuck in a loop
Ah yes, dual spec. Now everyone can have 2 entire specializations to sit around with while in a 3/5 group searching for a tank and healer.
That’s what I was thinking seeing people get excited because there will be more healers and tanks while leveling like nah people will have 2 dps specs there’s a shortage of tanks and healers in retail and there’s unlimited respecs 😂
seriously lol, priests gaslighting people about why they need dual spec so bad same with warriors, when EVERYONE knows they will NEVER do it
Are healers still in demand in Classic? Or is it mostly just tanks?
you dont get it, one is my PVE dps spec, the other is the PVP spec, I cant possibly tank a lvl 20 dead mines run as arms, find a proper tank
@@StriderIK you don't even need a tank until lvl 30 or so, anybody in plate will do.
Maybe a million of these types of videos but there's only one madseason! We're all still here mad-bro! Peeeaaaccce ✌️
Thank you for this video because I honestly didn't know this news. I've been wanting to jump back into Classic but was worried about leveling to 60 on a dead server. We are so back.
Don't just be an analyst! Be a combination analyst/therapist for WoW. Maybe someone can come up with a cool title that combines those things. Love you man!
I love you. I also quit because of the boost for original classic.
Player created boosts or blizzard boosts lol
Why do people care about the level boost so much?
Because there were no boosts in vanilla and paying to skip what many view as the point of the game invalidates the time investment of others if you can just buy it
@@joshsmith3893 you can still level the regular way. the level boost is just a choice you can make that blizzard offered. not required.
@@gojiramonster2388 thats not the point.
i love classic and the minor changes help with the times. all of the stuff they’ve changed doesn’t change the RPG aspects for me. only makes it more modern. i know classic purists have their gripes with it but this has just made me so excited.
I honestly don't really see the appeal of yet another classic launch, especially with this roadmap. I quit halfway through the 2019 classic release due to the bots becoming a huge issue and due to the community adopting playstyles that I very much disliked (Scarlet Monastery AoE boosting, world buff stacking, etc). It became harder and harder to find people with a more laid back mindset who just wanted to see the content and explore azeroth again, everyone had to optimize everything all the time. Those kinds of issues aren't going anywhere. I'll be keeping to private servers, thank you very much.
People wanted to “relive the good, old times” and then brought their retail WoW mindset to Vanilla
my favorite part of this video is where he says oldschool runescape has been really fun, can't wait till the next upload of that series!
Nah. I'm good. Time to stop living in the past.
OK loser, enjoy that real life BS.
No one cares dog you want more attention ? 🎉🎉🎉 lil baby ass
nah its hangin with the boys, i do get it tho, thats why its one last ride
@@lens_hunter imagine being a dead ass hater and just shit posting
Way to deflate the room buddy , get off the internet
Me too
REMEMBER when everyone 'quit wow' lmao
We are SO back, brother!
"Blizzard brought him back. They're gonna make him do this until he's 90"
Classic Vanilla Classic Classic Warlords of Draenor retirement home party, HYPE!
Damn, im late for the classic classic. Ill just wait another 5 years 😢
Came for the "Told you so," and I wasn't disappointed.
Well, let’s hope since this is a some changes, they will also change the TBC Dark Portal thingy to not being a thing and also not add the Wrath WoW Token
One can hope, but we know the Blizzard all too well to expect such a thing..
I love Vanilla so much, and while i think the game itself stands the test of time, the community didn't.
This is why I and many others are really excited that you've been trying your hand at OSRS. I hope you continue to enjoy it!
Edit: The path you've chosen is an unforgiving one for a first go 'round, don't be afraid to peek at our beloved wiki if you get stuck on something BS!
I'll never forget getting steamrolled by the madseason pre-made during his r14 grind and spam waving at him and the man waved back during the carnage. What a guy.
Good to see you jumping into the Re-RE-launch of Classic! And congrats for the 700+ uploads and 10 years of content, you have a great channel, definitely my favorite WoW channel out there. Take it easy and see ya on the server!
Classic Classic is honestly crazy. That's too much.
Boooo
I mean I am happy for people that want it but this is like remaking a movie 5 years after its release...
@@free29ct no it's not because you watch a movie, not partipate in a community with new and different experiences each new adventure. It's like complaining about people liking golf cause it's the same game every time
@meh I guess it’s just me then I want a new fresh experience something new like classic wow but a game that isn’t solved and fully explored already a new game
I missed my chance to relive the glory days of old during the 2019 re-release, I'm soo happy to get fresh prog servers!! :D
Yeah I'm good on Vanilla yet again for the 50 millionth time. I'll stay in Turtle Wow where it's nice and cozy.
What's the server population like on Turtle?
@@seth4321bout to be zero
@@professionalhater3929 :(
@@professionalhater3929 HAHAHAHA dude you Blizzard addicts say this every single time.
@@seth4321 Packed. They actually had to make a separate server for China to make it not so over populated. We got about 8k on my server.
You could hear the grin when you quoted Springer, I’ve been here long enough lol. And btw I never tired of the chrono trigger scores 🗡️🐸 and have Lol mads as I game! Happy anniversary
I'm looking forward to this as my last hurrah in WoW, my sub ends Dec 1, so I'm gonna try and hit 60 before it ends.
Been playing since I was 9 in 2006, account was my dad's before he passed away, he'd been playing since early 2004 in the beta.
Retail isn't my vibe anymore, and while I like Classic I really don't like Blizzard & they seem to hate me so I finally stopped giving them money. Except TBC & the newest one I have collectors editions of every expansion (even vanilla like you talked about earlier today).
Maybe I'm just too political but the straw that broke the camel's back was the bearded lady dwarves, but for the last few years I've realized that Blizzard really doesn't like guys like me.
Despite no longer playing the game I will continue to look forward to the historical & other wow videos you do, keep it up man.
60 in 10 days , good luck chief
I started in classic and left in Cata. I just came back to retail about 3 months ago. I’m really looking forward to these new classic servers.
Insane that people are hyped for a NON-patch by patch experience by the company that made the game and settle for a 1.12. 2.4.3 last patch treatment like its some small dev team of 3 people and not a billion dollar company. Oh and lets no forget the bots and hackers..... People who play classic and pay a sub for this game are the reason it will never regain its former glory cause you accept bad games.
Still better than garbage retail lmfaoooo
@@JohnRock14 both are garbage as fuck and are run like a low tier PR server.
@@JohnRock14 Both suck and are run like a low tier pr server.
oh shit, MA! New Mad video! Let's go!
man... this milking is genuinely sad.... what a sad company
MadSeason: "Told you so, by the way." lol
Make WOW great again, 4k, no microtransactions, bring back GM's!
A revamped one would bring back everyone.
So... Play on warmane basically. :')
@@DafuqLuLZbrother warmane is somehow more monetized then retail
@@professionalhater3929 monetized only if you're willing to give them money, you can play for free if you want to.
The HD texture pack from cata looks great too. What the game became visually in MOP was shit, and everything from then on. But the HD texture pack is super Classic, just updated.
Your channel is awesome bud, keep it going
Oh look! Blizz is once again kicking a dead horse for the umpteenth time. 🙄
People want it , why not , there’s over 100k people who play it , that’s what company’s should do
Classic wow is hella popular
Wake up kiddo
@XlelouchVi I think this time around, it will die pretty quickly. People will realize the time commitment you need for classic. In 2019, it peaked when the lock downs happened so people had alot of time to get into classic, this time unless you have a part time job it won't be all that appealing. No gdkp's will mean alot of people will not get the desired gear throughout each patch and will most probably quit.
@@Mecrazyeyes oh so your salty because you cant buy chinese bot gold and get every bit of gear you want in 3 months and quit because you "ran out of content" lol
@moodfm5673 Nice one, bud. If you would like to know, Ive always been with my DKP guild. Just look at classic era servers it's 90% GDKP. Use your brain
aren u dumb?
Time for your first Grand Marshall title for the second time Madseasonshow ❤️
I swear madseason is the only person who cares about Duel Spec and gold sinks 😂 I dont know anyone who plays and doesnt want less classic BS to spend gold on.