No shit, I just got to the part where Patrice really puts it in a sentence. "Charles Manson's just a funny person to put in there". " I mean do opertation _____ of someone that'd make somewhat sense and everything else dude says, is uh. Yeah. Pretty on point, really.
@@rmoim99 What if you make a lot of money later in life or want to run for office? The government could get hacked and criminal could get ahold of your nudes and can make you pay.
Man I grew up listening to these guys. I would sneak ear buds into school and hide the wire up my sleeve and listen every morning. I’d even time my alarm as Ecstasy of Gold was starting.
Ayyy. North Carolina, woot woot. Tryin to chill and talk about the Reptilian Overlords and what not? Yeah man, Patrice is the shit, he realizes that's a bit much, but, a few levels below that isn't that crazy is it.
I discovered Patrice O'Neil about 3 days ago. I've been bi ge watching him for about 72 hours now. This guy legit reframed my mind and thinking. I definitely needed it badly. Was with someone for 13 years and I'm 7 months out no contact with her. Really hurt badly as she randomly just moved out and into her brothers house with his wife and new baby and her sister. I helped raise her daughter from age 8 to now 21. Her and I met on a video game back in 2008 when I was 23 and she was 27. Talked 6 months and she took a bus to come see me. After a couple weeks, she just stayed. I was so happy. These past 7 months felt hopeless and just in dispare man.. dating NOW DAYS is totally different than back in 2008. It's so horrible now..pointless. Patrice logic way of thinking, describing EVERYTHING I went through but explaining the WHY behind it helps me understand it all. No way in hell could I get these answers anywhere else let alone from her , herself. I can't thank Patrice enough for finally explaining things. It seemed to be happening back then as well, but in 2021 it's very badly now days. Hrb definitely was ahead of the game and ahead of his time. I'd love to hear what he's gotta say about TODAY'S times. Rip Patrice 💪❤
Patrice is blunt, which is refreshing in this world of half-truths & pussy-footing. Nobody in media speaks up about how to reclaim your manly energy. There’s a Patrice-style comedian named “Aba.” He’s younger but similar attitude. Aba talks about growing up with tons of Oprah type resources, but no help about how to develop as a man. If you’re on the straight and narrow, just keep being a good person, don’t cave into the crowd. It all works out. You just gotta stick with it. Most people fail cuz they want their character to develop overnight.
Discovering Patrice makes you reevaluate every relationship you ever had, and makes you pissed at yourself for realizing everything you did wrong. Yet you walk away understanding why and feel better for it.
This is a perfect why: O&A was the best radio show for having the best comedian regulars around, especially Patrice, keeping batshit callers on, talking about insane subjects like Manson conspiracy theories, being hilariously vulgar, Opie berating callers, Ant coming against Patrice with logic and witty sensibility, and doing one great bit for almost an hour. RIP.
22:10 Edward Snowden’s book has a chapter describing EXACTLY what this guy was saying. Of course that sounded completely crazy in 2009/10 whenever this was
That's not true, this tinfoil hat twat was saying there are military guys sitting at desks just listening to peoples phone calls, not only would that be an impossible task it's just bullshit. They were collecting meta data and running pattern recognition software on it. And because its illegal to spy on your own citizens the U.S Gov get us Brits to spy on you and we get you to spy on us. Because no information illegally obtained can ever be used as evidence in any court. Also did he really sound like the kind of guy who a military intelligence personnel member would associate with? He's an uneducated paranoid slob.
Damn, after minute 30 a lot was revealed about this show. Anthony got so easily offended with Rene’s ‘cop party’ comment. Then Patrice realized Rene was probably only listening and calling in to disagree with Ant. Then Ant kind of let it slip that he hated the show as well. And for all the shit Opie got, he seemed to already know some people only listened because they disagreed with Ant. That’s why he slipped in that “Rene made some good points” line to further anger Ant.
@@carloscjr23 Manson and the unabomber are not alike. The unabomber is a legitimate genius, Manson was a loon with enough charisma to trick some idiots into following him.
@@JasonX2 Both have legitimate connections to the mk ultra program. And it was the very last time Manson went into prison and came out where he changed creating a cult following within a month after he was out.
This clip was late 2000s. 13:10 This guy knew about NSA spying on everyone years ahead of time, maybe he isnt such a kook. Two days ago I was talking about stocks with my brother with my phone in my pocket, suddenly I have ads for investing companies popping up. Creepy shit.
Shia LaBeouf said the same thing on a late night talk show during the same time when promoting a movie on that topic. It was pretty widely suspected, there just was never proof.
The NSA was hinted about by tom leher in the 60s... but he did it as comedy and nobody believed him. He was ome of the first people to work in it. And regularly joked about "we were all just spies"... but he was actually just telling the truth.
@@questionmark1152 Yeah... you actually kinda do. The point he's making is its frightening for first few months... but you learn the rules and eventually its just another environment. Yeah, they're not rotting away goofy emoji girl, they are just living their lives albeit with far less freedom.
I've never been to prison, so this is just my opinion. I think you would adapt over time, depending on who you are as person and which prison you are in, you'd eventually get into habits. That doesn't mean you'd be happy but I think you could achieve some version of peace. I mean, what do some people do. They go to work, they go home, that's it. That's not far from prison, depending on your perspective. Again, depends on who you are and which prison you are in, obviously some prisons are horrific, while others are more safe. Either way, let's think about what the point of prison is or should be. Is it not the point of prisons, to hold those we deem to dangerous to be out in normal society, so we as a culture have set up laws that if you break, we have designed a system of punishment to fairly judge how long we put you into a cell, lock you inside for a said time length, and then let you back out. So, what's the point of that time. We are punishing you by taking your free time. What should your time in prison be about. How should we set up a prison system to be an effective and efficient use of that time. It's used currently almost fully to the point of punishment. Our society views prison as a punishment, so they think it should have suffering. But why. Why not treat it like a school, I mean military school. If we used prison as a form of training people in a worthwhile matter, maybe prison would be useful and have better outcomes. Do we really need to lock evry single prisoner in a cell. Sure some humans are broken, i mean they are mentally or morally corrupt, they've done something so horrific, they need to be punished, for justice or revenge whatever. But I mean come on guys, we could turn our low level prisons into the next greatest banch of the United States military. I think I've made a great argument to set up our level prisons with military style bootcamp training programs. Why not. So many people in the system are non violent, some just in for drug trafficking dealing. Why not use that time we have justifiably taken from them, to train a new branch for the military. I'm just saying.
Yeah trying to find the part where they talk about the swastika on the fore head lmfao - oh yeah Cassius, and then post this on the stupid fucking Tim O’Neal bullshit
I mean, they did do that with Charles "Lucky" Luciano in WWII. The OSS (precurser to the CIA) knew that he had some friends on the docks in NY and in the hills of Sicily. They told him that they would let him out of jail if he helped them root out Nazi spies on the docks and assisted in the invasion of Sicily.
@@austinryan9382True but it seems logical for a nation-state to use such an asset. We just don't know. Same thing with the case Mississippi Burning was inspired by. In real life the FBI recruited help from some members of the (Chicago, or Kansas City maybe? idr) underworld to, uh, obtain some intel from the mayor
Well there’s a new channel dropping clips with Opie now edited out. Be a man of your word and pay that man 😂 he does a great job at editing him out and making the conversation still go smoothly
The "Operation Charlie Manson" guy toward the end said that the fact that the iceman is still alive "Proves a lot". Funny thing is, they only did two of those Christmas interviews before he died in 2005. Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia: In October 2005, after nearly 18 years in prison, Kuklinski was diagnosed with Kawasaki disease (an inflammation of the blood vessels). He was transferred to a secure wing at St. Francis Medical Center in Trenton, New Jersey. Although he had asked doctors to make sure they revived him if he developed cardiopulmonary arrest (or risk of heart attack), his then-former wife Barbara had signed a "do not resuscitate" order. A week before his death, the hospital called Barbara to ask if she wished to rescind the instruction, but she declined.[67] Kuklinski died at age 70 on March 5, 2006.[5] At the request of Kuklinski's family, noted forensic pathologist Michael Baden reviewed his autopsy report. Baden confirmed that Kuklinski died of cardiac arrest and had been suffering with heart disease and phlebitis.[63] Maybe he wasn't protected by the Illuminati, but got Epsteined by his wife? Or maybe the doctors took her advice over the 70 year old serial murderer and it's just as retarded as using Charlie Manson as a Donnie Brasco to Al Qaeda.
Renee owns Anthony on this one, called him out on being a stupid cop loving civilian and then they hung up on him. Patrice is right there’s no way prison gets much easier or enjoyable. Yes you get used to it but stabbings and murder still happen even decades into your sentence. What kind of life is that. You get numb to it. But any bad day on the outside is better than the best stay inside.
@@variable7833 I love Anthony, he’s hilarious. But he’s speaking for many situations he’s never been in. He’s admitted he’s a pansyy he doesn’t fist fight so he buys guns. He was a nerd in high school. I love him and Jim’s humility. But he shouldn’t speak on situations like he’s experienced them before. Patrice has actually been to prison. Also ant has some indoor cat he’s like a cat lady.
@@kjlkjjjk Yes prison is the penitentiary jails can be state facilities or whatever country you live in. Here in Canada we have pre-trial jails before federal prison. What’s your point what do you disagree with? You’re one of these people that thinks prison is easy?
I can attest to some of the horrors you experience in prison, so I get where you're coming from- some days it feels like the full moon was out the night before and its driving people up the walls You can have a good streak and then suddenly it all goes downhill and you wonder if you'll make it out alive. I've been packed out, held at gunpoint by guards, raided, sent to solitary for the dumbest nonsense- its like the army the only easy day was yesterday With that said, Anthony makes perfect sense: when you are in jail for anywhere beyond 2 years it becomes routine. People know you and you know the rules. Granted you're not that guy who is _always_ feeling some kind of way, people have no reason to beef with you This goes double if you're in there for being a maniac. Nobody wants problems with a stone cold killer. The circumstances would have to be really diverse for a person to go out of their way to stab you By my count, violence is either gang related (sorting stuff WITHIN the gang), a riot of sorts, things like stealing, or just people dont get along (personality clash) Violence never happens at random, even with a group of misfits, people are prone to common sense
can speak from experience in saying that you adapt to being locked up really fast... after a few months you just get into the rhythm of the routine and time just kinda fades away.... it's not until your release date is on the horizon that time comes back and slows to a craw.
These two white guys that ain’t ever spent time in the system don’t even know how to relate to what Patrice is proposing. He is saying that JAIL or any time you are sentenced to the state for a crime found guilty for then that should be the punishment. Nothing else after serving time should be possible. I served both military and some time for a DWI and my service was trumped by the jail sentence. So yes I agree with Patrice’s statement that after serving the time no other barriers need to be met from then on out. As for severe level offenses they obviously serve longer terms and mostly likely aren’t of sound mind after spending 25 plus years institutionalized since there is zero rehabilitation happening.
Patrice's point made complete sense to me. Yet, there's zero chance it will ever be this way unfortunately. You're branded with the scarlet J (or P) for life and everything's going to be harder and more bureaucratic whenever your background is available or has to be disclosed. But I do agree with you on the longer sentences and that there's no rehabilitation happening. It's punishment and crony corporate slavery. I can see people getting antsy about that and wanting nothing to do with it or some assurances. Now for the shorter ones, I think there should be zero bureaucracy to it. It should be down to personal preferences by individuals when it comes to how they feel about you as a person and your past.
Yeah plus u can hear the fakeness in louis voice when he says “child killers” like the tone sounds like he says it cuz that’s what other ppl say n to me it’s funny cuz mfs act like they really care like I really don’t believe that anyone gaf abt cases/ppl that face that penalty
Yes. I've been arrested twice for violent offenses (had bad emotional and psychological problems from my upbringing), I rehabilitated myself with therapy and a lot of self work, finished probation for my second arrest 2 years ago, and I can't live anywhere. No apartment complex/town house complex/mobile home park will accept me, and I can't get a good enough job to afford a house. I have 3 more years to go under Texas state law to be able to get an apartment again. Still won't be able to get almost any job that pays more than $70,000 a year because positions that pay that much are allowed to discriminate based on convictions up to 19 years back. 19 fucking years. Imagine someone doing a 10 year sentence than having to wait that 19 extra years to get a job paying more than $70,000. That's about 30 fucking years. You'd have to wait till you're an old fucking man to start working towards retiring. It's un-fucking-real
You never get used to prison. Thats like saying you get used to war. It may become your reality, but it doesn't mean shit is normal, and you don't suffer, just because you get to watch tv sometimes.
@@aloofbhudda thankfully no, just jail. But most of my friends and family have done time. I have been deployed several times though, and id say the experience isnt that different. Being in a foreign environment, loss of friends and family, shitty food, authority breaking your balls, boredom interupted by violence...
I've never been to prison but I've watched vids of prisoners and talked to a few, and all of them say its horrible. You can get raped, beat up, your shit stolen, you might be forced to commit another crime or be killed. You can't run from the inmates, they have gangs, you have to spend every day keepings yourself alive and on good terms with everyone. It does not sound like you would get used to that.
All those stories are from people in maximum security who are locked up with killers. In medium and especially minimum security prisons that shit doesn't happen very often. I know a guy who did 8 years and didn't have a single problem, didn't see anything F'd up, and left prison with a bachelor's degree.
@@charlest5604 Yeah...One guy. How many others had is experience? Have any idea of the reality that thousands go through to have one person be the exception? Jail is NOT sweet.
I know someone who murdered his girlfriend and abandoned his twin babies with them in the same room. He was in his early 20s when he tucked her away and got locked up. They gave him 14 years. He'll be out when he's my age
Man, I just happened to be listening to a random full episode of O&A the other day and this call/topic happened to be in the epodes. So glad to find this Operation Charles Manson clip isolated lmao. Can't stop laughing when the two callers start disagreeing.
What Patrice said about parole is why I hate NJ. I got 4 years probation and they won't let me just do the prison time. I just did 7 months because an ex got mad I wouldn't take her back. She admitted in court she made it up. I'm still on probation!
You are telling half truths. You could of rejected the Plea you accepted with probation terms because you were not trying to do the full prison time. Now you are on probation and their job is to keep you from violating.
Patrice was definetely educating Opie and Anthony here I do respect Anthony And Opie though.. But man Patrice.. Always put these 2 in their place He was like father to these two hahahaha
Charles Manson was programmed by the cia program MK Ultra. He got out of prison after several prison sentences. Always federal always for something petty like driving a stolen car over a state line. He would leave his probation area, and his probation officer would ok it and get his back. He came out the last time out of prison and for the first time ever had a small cult of people following him like a month later. He would take the women to a clinic regularly to get checked out for sex reasons and he would go off somewhere. The doctor there was connected to the mk ultra program and the prison he had been in was also connected to the mk ultra program. After while he developed a cult he was moving around the state freely under the protection of specific federal government employees. It's crazy. A dude wrote a book about it and I believe 4 months before it was released the clinic shut down after decades of operation.
Life in prison isn't for everyone. I believe some introverts, like possibly that serial killer Rifkin, can handle it and it becomes their routine life. But people leaning more towards the extrovert end of the scale will go insane. Some people have a rich inner life, mentally, others don't. Others live externally. And in their case, prison will deprive them of their lives.
Opie is really at his "best" in this one. Ant isn't much better here either tbh, really is still a "pissy eyed" little kid and pretty hateable himself. The more I listen back, the more obvious his insecurities are. I miss Patrice.
Point taken, I know that Opie found Ant and I'm guessing Jim, but he can't get credit for everyone. One person led to the next once they had a comic on the show. He's also the "genius" that seemed to think the Cuban and Vic were entertaining. Lol
FUCK! I just slammed my tablet down listening to that shit. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU OPIE! Christ IM mad for no reason listening to that fucking obnoxious shit dick.
He asks the conspiracy Anthony guy a question and he starts to answer and Opie immediately screams "hol on hold on hold on!!! Let's go to someone else real quick, alright go ahead conspiracy guy" jesus
Guy was 100% right about the spy shit, which gives mild credibility... and like patrice said... maybe it wasn't Manson, maybe it was some criminal that was codenamed Manson.
As much sense as it makes giving ex convicts jobs so they aren't left with crime as the only option, the idea of them having priority over people who haven't fucked up their lives doesn't sit right with me. What would discourage people from committing crime if they knew they were guaranteed a job once they got out of prison? As long as it wasn't a massive sentence, it would be pretty appealing to just sell drugs and if you get caught you just do your time and then you are almost guaranteed a job afterwards. It could discourage repeat offenses, but encourage people to commit crime in the first place.
Interesting how people were doubtful of having their phone calls and emails spied on. Now look at the state of affairs
No shit, I just got to the part where Patrice really puts it in a sentence. "Charles Manson's just a funny person to put in there". " I mean do opertation _____ of someone that'd make somewhat sense and everything else dude says, is uh. Yeah. Pretty on point, really.
Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin, Sinking of the Lusitania, some are dumb some aren't
I dont care if the government spies on my phone. All theyre gunna see is big di CK
@@rmoim99 What if you make a lot of money later in life or want to run for office? The government could get hacked and criminal could get ahold of your nudes and can make you pay.
Thanks to republicans selling our info off to big tech companies
I miss Patrice
I miss Manson and Patrice too
Chris Parker at the end of the day he was the only thing worth a shit on this show
We all do
Tom oneill chaos book and the Manson caller guy kinda mesh
I dont miss opie
These are unfiltered, organic podcasts. I've listened to these guys for hours.
Almost organic, if the hole would stop grinding the conversations to a halt to take phone calls because he has nothing to say.
its not a podcast you absolute zoomer
Man I grew up listening to these guys. I would sneak ear buds into school and hide the wire up my sleeve and listen every morning. I’d even time my alarm as Ecstasy of Gold was starting.
Podcast? This was a call in radio show. 🤣🤣🤣
@@tecumsehcristero I know it was Dickhead 😂 but it just had great flow to it. Alotbof O and A content.
Like always Patrice is always the smartest on this show
Ayyy. North Carolina, woot woot. Tryin to chill and talk about the Reptilian Overlords and what not? Yeah man, Patrice is the shit, he realizes that's a bit much, but, a few levels below that isn't that crazy is it.
Always!
Thats a fact
Anthony is smarter than Patrice.
@@JJJ111JJJ at memorizing stats yea
I discovered Patrice O'Neil about 3 days ago. I've been bi ge watching him for about 72 hours now. This guy legit reframed my mind and thinking. I definitely needed it badly.
Was with someone for 13 years and I'm 7 months out no contact with her. Really hurt badly as she randomly just moved out and into her brothers house with his wife and new baby and her sister. I helped raise her daughter from age 8 to now 21.
Her and I met on a video game back in 2008 when I was 23 and she was 27. Talked 6 months and she took a bus to come see me. After a couple weeks, she just stayed. I was so happy. These past 7 months felt hopeless and just in dispare man.. dating NOW DAYS is totally different than back in 2008. It's so horrible now..pointless.
Patrice logic way of thinking, describing EVERYTHING I went through but explaining the WHY behind it helps me understand it all. No way in hell could I get these answers anywhere else let alone from her , herself.
I can't thank Patrice enough for finally explaining things. It seemed to be happening back then as well, but in 2021 it's very badly now days. Hrb definitely was ahead of the game and ahead of his time. I'd love to hear what he's gotta say about TODAY'S times. Rip Patrice 💪❤
Patrice is blunt, which is refreshing in this world of half-truths & pussy-footing.
Nobody in media speaks up about how to reclaim your manly energy.
There’s a Patrice-style comedian named “Aba.” He’s younger but similar attitude. Aba talks about growing up with tons of Oprah type resources, but no help about how to develop as a man.
If you’re on the straight and narrow, just keep being a good person, don’t cave into the crowd. It all works out. You just gotta stick with it. Most people fail cuz they want their character to develop overnight.
@@Sprite_525 Do you Aba from Aba and Preach?
What advice really turned your life around?
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Discovering Patrice makes you reevaluate every relationship you ever had, and makes you pissed at yourself for realizing everything you did wrong. Yet you walk away understanding why and feel better for it.
This is a perfect why: O&A was the best radio show for having the best comedian regulars around, especially Patrice, keeping batshit callers on, talking about insane subjects like Manson conspiracy theories, being hilariously vulgar, Opie berating callers, Ant coming against Patrice with logic and witty sensibility, and doing one great bit for almost an hour. RIP.
怪我ドル Z O M B O I D seriously that combo was incredible. give or take opie lol
If you ever wondered what R. Lee Ermey would look like as a prison guard here you go!
haha my thoughts exactly
Gr Byd 😂😂😂😂 fuck dude good catch
Also a terrifying shadow to the left
@@mrmagoo8956 Jack Ruby in the cut
Literal doppelganger.
Patrice is timeless I’m constantly watching stuff wondering what Patrice would say about that.
Ditto
I read other comments wondering if 'they' got him. He started speaking the truth, listen to him argue with Anthony about the national tragedy.
22:10 Edward Snowden’s book has a chapter describing EXACTLY what this guy was saying. Of course that sounded completely crazy in 2009/10 whenever this was
That's not true, this tinfoil hat twat was saying there are military guys sitting at desks just listening to peoples phone calls, not only would that be an impossible task it's just bullshit. They were collecting meta data and running pattern recognition software on it. And because its illegal to spy on your own citizens the U.S Gov get us Brits to spy on you and we get you to spy on us. Because no information illegally obtained can ever be used as evidence in any court. Also did he really sound like the kind of guy who a military intelligence personnel member would associate with? He's an uneducated paranoid slob.
Yes
@@jedaaa I'm fairly convinced that was Michael Rapaport
@@SatelliteSoundLab wait!!!! But I Love Micheal Rapaport!!!!!
@@jedaaa Oh me too bruh haha but that guy has been fucking up and upsetting way too many black ppl these days
Damn, after minute 30 a lot was revealed about this show. Anthony got so easily offended with Rene’s ‘cop party’ comment. Then Patrice realized Rene was probably only listening and calling in to disagree with Ant. Then Ant kind of let it slip that he hated the show as well. And for all the shit Opie got, he seemed to already know some people only listened because they disagreed with Ant. That’s why he slipped in that “Rene made some good points” line to further anger Ant.
breakingdan good observation. That was weakness in front of sharks
You're reading too much into it.
LOL okay brothaman, “to further anger Ant” like Opie was some puppet-master.
Yeah it was a depressing show.
The show was over WAY before Ant got fired.
LOVED how they kept on the manson conspiracy guy on there as long as they did to let the callers lay into him. hilarious
The FBI actually did that before tho. With a Hitman from the mafia.
he wasf ucking right
Lmao that Anthony caller was right on the money. “They listen in on your phone calls and spy on you” …uh…. you ever heard of the NSA?
fuck the callers
HE WAS RIGHT
I did 5 years and trust me you deal with it but you don’t get use to it
Hey u still active on this app?
@@piousseph6219 nah he passed away
"You got the inside scoop on nothing" is such a good line.
😂
"Shut up girl name!" 🤣🤣🤣💀
@ 29:20 things escalated rather quickly
That was hilarious!
30:38 GIRL NAME! GIRL NAME! GIRL NAME! 🤣🤣💀💀
Notice Patrice stayed out of that one 😂😅
dude😭
"There's only one man to get us out of this mess... someone call Charles Manson."
He and the unabomber probably have more knowledge about todays world than us.
@@carloscjr23 Manson and the unabomber are not alike. The unabomber is a legitimate genius, Manson was a loon with enough charisma to trick some idiots into following him.
@@JasonX2 Both have legitimate connections to the mk ultra program. And it was the very last time Manson went into prison and came out where he changed creating a cult following within a month after he was out.
@@carloscjr23 you're so redarted
@@carloscjr23you know what you’re talking about
Patrice was brilliant. One of the smartest comedians, and I believe one of the nicest guys.
He was brutally mean to many people, and was a dummy when it came to topics like this.
@@LambertBowden56 Ok groomer
Anthony getting butt hurt over dude saying him comparing jail to having cops at a party isn't the same is hilarious lol
29:25 omfg I love it, Renee came outta nowhere with that. Love that he's called back again and got Ant riled up
The guy was totally describing the NSA
The "he doesn't speak Arabic and has a swastika carved into his forehead" response is the funniest
This clip was late 2000s. 13:10 This guy knew about NSA spying on everyone years ahead of time, maybe he isnt such a kook.
Two days ago I was talking about stocks with my brother with my phone in my pocket, suddenly I have ads for investing companies popping up. Creepy shit.
This has happened to me tens of times.creepy shit.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Shia LaBeouf said the same thing on a late night talk show during the same time when promoting a movie on that topic. It was pretty widely suspected, there just was never proof.
The NSA was hinted about by tom leher in the 60s... but he did it as comedy and nobody believed him. He was ome of the first people to work in it. And regularly joked about "we were all just spies"... but he was actually just telling the truth.
Charles Manson was an American hero, stopping terrorism and saving the world. We all owe him big time
People who say you don't suffer in jail are EXCLUSIVELY people who have never been to jail.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That was never the premise though🚮 LISTEN
@@jjavodelb "No one is rotting away in prison, they are just living their life."
I definitely need to listen better.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Which makes the concept of repeat offenders even more baffling. Why opt to go back to that hell?
beejay27 people get institutionalized and start to depend on the structure that jail/prison offers
@@questionmark1152 Yeah... you actually kinda do. The point he's making is its frightening for first few months... but you learn the rules and eventually its just another environment. Yeah, they're not rotting away goofy emoji girl, they are just living their lives albeit with far less freedom.
2023 here. And this aged perfectly
Patrice was a very intelligent person, he had the rational that a lot of society needs.
Yeah fucking fat chicks at Houlahans, what a Saint.
True.
@@tejasnair3399way better than you
Is that R Lee Eremy behind Manson in the picture?
K. hang on here, this is funny, I don't know who that name is but let me just say this, is that the drill Sergeant from FMJ? are we on the same pg?
i was wondering the same thing
Ghost Dog
Yeah - same guy
ITS A CONSPIRACY! HE WAS ON THE INSIDE!
Eremy was probably running a whorehouse in Thailand at that time
Dude was right about the surveillance. Gotta give him that.
Yeah but that was an easy call to make and in no way related to the main point of his call
'speaks a lot of englishes'
Queens English, cockney, pig latin, new mexican, american
"speaks a lot of englishes"
these people are fools to think it doesn't suck in prison
nathenism It does... but you get use to it. Which is the problem.
@@davidnorman4612 that's human nature. Wtf u gonna do? Engineer people to respond differently to uncomfortable situations?
I've never been to prison, so this is just my opinion. I think you would adapt over time, depending on who you are as person and which prison you are in, you'd eventually get into habits. That doesn't mean you'd be happy but I think you could achieve some version of peace. I mean, what do some people do. They go to work, they go home, that's it. That's not far from prison, depending on your perspective. Again, depends on who you are and which prison you are in, obviously some prisons are horrific, while others are more safe.
Either way, let's think about what the point of prison is or should be. Is it not the point of prisons, to hold those we deem to dangerous to be out in normal society, so we as a culture have set up laws that if you break, we have designed a system of punishment to fairly judge how long we put you into a cell, lock you inside for a said time length, and then let you back out.
So, what's the point of that time. We are punishing you by taking your free time. What should your time in prison be about. How should we set up a prison system to be an effective and efficient use of that time. It's used currently almost fully to the point of punishment. Our society views prison as a punishment, so they think it should have suffering. But why. Why not treat it like a school, I mean military school. If we used prison as a form of training people in a worthwhile matter, maybe prison would be useful and have better outcomes.
Do we really need to lock evry single prisoner in a cell. Sure some humans are broken, i mean they are mentally or morally corrupt, they've done something so horrific, they need to be punished, for justice or revenge whatever. But I mean come on guys, we could turn our low level prisons into the next greatest banch of the United States military.
I think I've made a great argument to set up our level prisons with military style bootcamp training programs. Why not. So many people in the system are non violent, some just in for drug trafficking dealing. Why not use that time we have justifiably taken from them, to train a new branch for the military. I'm just saying.
Time stamping 29:25 for laughing my ass off in the future.
the voice made it lol!!!
Makes fun of Renee for having a girl's name while Patrice is sitting next to him 🤣🤣🤣
Have u laughed in 1 solid year yet
Renee got ruined
YEEZUS!!!! Dude str8 LOST IT😆😆😳😆!!!!!!
After Tom O'Neil wrote "CHAOS: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties" this Anthony doesn't sound so crazy. Still improbable.
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Another good book is "Weird scenes from inside the Canyon" by Dave McGowan. That covers all the intelligence based shit going on in the 60s. 👍
Great book
I love how exasperated the caller was about how mind boggling the conspiracy was. "This is so asinine!”
14:12 🤣🤣
Who’s here from the Tim Oneal interview with Joe Rogan
Laura Paniagua haha me! I read the book all day yesterday and this morning and I finally finished it. I need more.
Lmao yup!
Yeah trying to find the part where they talk about the swastika on the fore head lmfao - oh yeah Cassius, and then post this on the stupid fucking Tim O’Neal bullshit
Got the book on the way. Patrice was a pioneer.
the name is kinda an interesting coincidence
Thank you for your work, i know you dont actually control what opie says I appreciate the clip
thx JNN!
I mean, they did do that with Charles "Lucky" Luciano in WWII. The OSS (precurser to the CIA) knew that he had some friends on the docks in NY and in the hills of Sicily. They told him that they would let him out of jail if he helped them root out Nazi spies on the docks and assisted in the invasion of Sicily.
We dont know what we dont know ;)
@@austinryan9382True but it seems logical for a nation-state to use such an asset. We just don't know. Same thing with the case Mississippi Burning was inspired by. In real life the FBI recruited help from some members of the (Chicago, or Kansas City maybe? idr) underworld to, uh, obtain some intel from the mayor
Opie makes old Patrice clips so hard to listen to. Would probably pay to listen to videos where hes edited out of the conversation
💯% O&A are aids
zx6r79 I would pay to watch a video of opie being lit on fire
Search for Nopie and Anthony in yt
@Mulattiu he has been doing radio since he was 18 lol
Well there’s a new channel dropping clips with Opie now edited out. Be a man of your word and pay that man 😂 he does a great job at editing him out and making the conversation still go smoothly
The "Operation Charlie Manson" guy toward the end said that the fact that the iceman is still alive "Proves a lot". Funny thing is, they only did two of those Christmas interviews before he died in 2005. Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia:
In October 2005, after nearly 18 years in prison, Kuklinski was diagnosed with Kawasaki disease (an inflammation of the blood vessels). He was transferred to a secure wing at St. Francis Medical Center in Trenton, New Jersey. Although he had asked doctors to make sure they revived him if he developed cardiopulmonary arrest (or risk of heart attack), his then-former wife Barbara had signed a "do not resuscitate" order. A week before his death, the hospital called Barbara to ask if she wished to rescind the instruction, but she declined.[67] Kuklinski died at age 70 on March 5, 2006.[5] At the request of Kuklinski's family, noted forensic pathologist Michael Baden reviewed his autopsy report. Baden confirmed that Kuklinski died of cardiac arrest and had been suffering with heart disease and phlebitis.[63]
Maybe he wasn't protected by the Illuminati, but got Epsteined by his wife? Or maybe the doctors took her advice over the 70 year old serial murderer and it's just as retarded as using Charlie Manson as a Donnie Brasco to Al Qaeda.
Renee owns Anthony on this one, called him out on being a stupid cop loving civilian and then they hung up on him. Patrice is right there’s no way prison gets much easier or enjoyable. Yes you get used to it but stabbings and murder still happen even decades into your sentence. What kind of life is that. You get numb to it. But any bad day on the outside is better than the best stay inside.
Ant is entertaining and funny. But some of his views are retarded
@@variable7833 I love Anthony, he’s hilarious. But he’s speaking for many situations he’s never been in. He’s admitted he’s a pansyy he doesn’t fist fight so he buys guns. He was a nerd in high school. I love him and Jim’s humility. But he shouldn’t speak on situations like he’s experienced them before. Patrice has actually been to prison. Also ant has some indoor cat he’s like a cat lady.
Have you been to prison abs or know the difference between jail and prison lol
@@kjlkjjjk Yes prison is the penitentiary jails can be state facilities or whatever country you live in. Here in Canada we have pre-trial jails before federal prison. What’s your point what do you disagree with?
You’re one of these people that thinks prison is easy?
I can attest to some of the horrors you experience in prison, so I get where you're coming from- some days it feels like the full moon was out the night before and its driving people up the walls
You can have a good streak and then suddenly it all goes downhill and you wonder if you'll make it out alive. I've been packed out, held at gunpoint by guards, raided, sent to solitary for the dumbest nonsense- its like the army the only easy day was yesterday
With that said, Anthony makes perfect sense: when you are in jail for anywhere beyond 2 years it becomes routine. People know you and you know the rules. Granted you're not that guy who is _always_ feeling some kind of way, people have no reason to beef with you
This goes double if you're in there for being a maniac. Nobody wants problems with a stone cold killer. The circumstances would have to be really diverse for a person to go out of their way to stab you
By my count, violence is either gang related (sorting stuff WITHIN the gang), a riot of sorts, things like stealing, or just people dont get along (personality clash)
Violence never happens at random, even with a group of misfits, people are prone to common sense
29:20 straight up the best rage I've ever heard
Thanks
*Triggered* Ant. 😅
Holy shit Anthony went off! 😂
He was pissed. No man wants a dude named Rene making fun of them
Anthony always whines like a kid
29:30 that sentence alone was a golden moment
"Hey TWAT"
can speak from experience in saying that you adapt to being locked up really fast... after a few months you just get into the rhythm of the routine and time just kinda fades away.... it's not until your release date is on the horizon that time comes back and slows to a craw.
"Let me go onto AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH."
Jesus. That stretched on like ten seconds. Opie is the worst.
Well he did apologize after lol 🤷🏻♂️
Honestly, Egopie was just speaking the mind of the viewers at this point lol
imagine the first drug lords telling people “the government is taking my money to fund wars”
That would never happen!!! Not in the US... Maybe Mexico obviously..... ... ... Lol.
These two white guys that ain’t ever spent time in the system don’t even know how to relate to what Patrice is proposing. He is saying that JAIL or any time you are sentenced to the state for a crime found guilty for then that should be the punishment. Nothing else after serving time should be possible. I served both military and some time for a DWI and my service was trumped by the jail sentence. So yes I agree with Patrice’s statement that after serving the time no other barriers need to be met from then on out. As for severe level offenses they obviously serve longer terms and mostly likely aren’t of sound mind after spending 25 plus years institutionalized since there is zero rehabilitation happening.
Mike Knight it kills indiscriminately
Patrice's point made complete sense to me. Yet, there's zero chance it will ever be this way unfortunately. You're branded with the scarlet J (or P) for life and everything's going to be harder and more bureaucratic whenever your background is available or has to be disclosed. But I do agree with you on the longer sentences and that there's no rehabilitation happening. It's punishment and crony corporate slavery. I can see people getting antsy about that and wanting nothing to do with it or some assurances. Now for the shorter ones, I think there should be zero bureaucracy to it. It should be down to personal preferences by individuals when it comes to how they feel about you as a person and your past.
Yeah plus u can hear the fakeness in louis voice when he says “child killers” like the tone sounds like he says it cuz that’s what other ppl say n to me it’s funny cuz mfs act like they really care like I really don’t believe that anyone gaf abt cases/ppl that face that penalty
Shouldn’t driven drunk bitch
Yes. I've been arrested twice for violent offenses (had bad emotional and psychological problems from my upbringing), I rehabilitated myself with therapy and a lot of self work, finished probation for my second arrest 2 years ago, and I can't live anywhere. No apartment complex/town house complex/mobile home park will accept me, and I can't get a good enough job to afford a house. I have 3 more years to go under Texas state law to be able to get an apartment again. Still won't be able to get almost any job that pays more than $70,000 a year because positions that pay that much are allowed to discriminate based on convictions up to 19 years back. 19 fucking years. Imagine someone doing a 10 year sentence than having to wait that 19 extra years to get a job paying more than $70,000. That's about 30 fucking years. You'd have to wait till you're an old fucking man to start working towards retiring. It's un-fucking-real
Opie: you didn't have to use the n word
Patrice: he used it in the correct context
😂 😂 😂 😂
i love you Patrice.
You never get used to prison. Thats like saying you get used to war. It may become your reality, but it doesn't mean shit is normal, and you don't suffer, just because you get to watch tv sometimes.
you been to prison?
@@aloofbhudda thankfully no, just jail. But most of my friends and family have done time. I have been deployed several times though, and id say the experience isnt that different. Being in a foreign environment, loss of friends and family, shitty food, authority breaking your balls, boredom interupted by violence...
@@smasher.338 Oh okay i get it
The earth is prison, you get used to it........
I've never been to prison but I've watched vids of prisoners and talked to a few, and all of them say its horrible. You can get raped, beat up, your shit stolen, you might be forced to commit another crime or be killed. You can't run from the inmates, they have gangs, you have to spend every day keepings yourself alive and on good terms with everyone. It does not sound like you would get used to that.
Michael you dont. ant is an idiot.
All those stories are from people in maximum security who are locked up with killers. In medium and especially minimum security prisons that shit doesn't happen very often. I know a guy who did 8 years and didn't have a single problem, didn't see anything F'd up, and left prison with a bachelor's degree.
@@charlest5604 Yeah...One guy. How many others had is experience? Have any idea of the reality that thousands go through to have one person be the exception? Jail is NOT sweet.
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You're just soft. Someone like you would end up holding pockets and getting traded for commissary
I know someone who murdered his girlfriend and abandoned his twin babies with them in the same room. He was in his early 20s when he tucked her away and got locked up. They gave him 14 years. He'll be out when he's my age
Anthony went MEGA HAM.
girl name lol
"Turn off that awful music and play Helter Skelter." Haha, so great. I miss you Patrice.
32:26 "How many people work here and hate the show?" Foreshadowing.
That’s stuck out to me too
It’s interesting to listen to this after the book Chaos came out
Edward snowden proved this guy right
16:42 I knew that guy was gonna troll xD. "You just said it, you just said it" lol
Should put Opie in prison for killing the funny!!!! Thanks for keeping the show alive.RIP Patrice
This shit’s making my Sunday. Oh my god
YOU JUST SEDIT
YOU JUST SEDIT
YOU JUST SEDIT
YOU JUST SEDIT
Rene’s call is legendary lmaoo
“Whats your brothers name, charlotte? Ya fruit……sorry Patrice”
💀
Who is your buddy and what does he do?
whoa Anthony went over a ledge there for a minute....
Man, I just happened to be listening to a random full episode of O&A the other day and this call/topic happened to be in the epodes. So glad to find this Operation Charles Manson clip isolated lmao. Can't stop laughing when the two callers start disagreeing.
I haven’t seen Charlie Manson’s face for a while. I have that exact same haircut. Whoops.
Easily this is in my top 5 Patrice on O&A segments 😂 Operation Charles Manson
What Patrice said about parole is why I hate NJ. I got 4 years probation and they won't let me just do the prison time. I just did 7 months because an ex got mad I wouldn't take her back. She admitted in court she made it up. I'm still on probation!
jed4426 shit is crazy
You are telling half truths. You could of rejected the Plea you accepted with probation terms because you were not trying to do the full prison time. Now you are on probation and their job is to keep you from violating.
Charles Manson did NOT know multiple languages and he was NOT a genius
Read the stories of the people that were found innocent that were on death row.
No thanks. Don't want to hear about those tragedies.
Turns out it actually happened
Charles manson got to outlive patrice oneal. How fucking ridiculous is that
Patrice knew the game without playing it. Hes right about wanting to just do his full time and not be on parole or probation. Its a trap.
Rogan reminded me of this O&A - Joe Rogan Experience #1459 - Tom O'Neill
"Ok, go ahead girl name " Ant beast mode, lmao.
Called him Susan thought and cut throat
the guy to the right of charles manson looks like r lee ermey
I thought the same
21:23 sounds like it's right out of gta4 radio station
Anthony dude has rage issues really .. I bet he reads all the comments years later and dislikes the bad ones
“What’s your brothers name, charlotte”😂😂😂
Patrice was definetely educating Opie and Anthony here I do respect Anthony And Opie though.. But man Patrice.. Always put these 2 in their place He was like father to these two hahahaha
29:25 that’s some good radio right there.
Charles Manson was programmed by the cia program MK Ultra. He got out of prison after several prison sentences. Always federal always for something petty like driving a stolen car over a state line. He would leave his probation area, and his probation officer would ok it and get his back. He came out the last time out of prison and for the first time ever had a small cult of people following him like a month later. He would take the women to a clinic regularly to get checked out for sex reasons and he would go off somewhere. The doctor there was connected to the mk ultra program and the prison he had been in was also connected to the mk ultra program. After while he developed a cult he was moving around the state freely under the protection of specific federal government employees. It's crazy. A dude wrote a book about it and I believe 4 months before it was released the clinic shut down after decades of operation.
God damn do I miss Patrice!!
Opie is so insufferable here.
Shut It stfu, these comments are insufferable.
His fucking tombstone should just say "insufferable".
Patrice was brilliant.
Life in prison isn't for everyone. I believe some introverts, like possibly that serial killer Rifkin, can handle it and it becomes their routine life. But people leaning more towards the extrovert end of the scale will go insane. Some people have a rich inner life, mentally, others don't. Others live externally. And in their case, prison will deprive them of their lives.
Crazy this guy is describing EXACTLY what Snowden exposed
Opie is really at his "best" in this one.
Ant isn't much better here either tbh, really is still a "pissy eyed" little kid and pretty hateable himself.
The more I listen back, the more obvious his insecurities are.
I miss Patrice.
I agree. Patrice will be missed. I with they listen to him more
sixburgh64ss calm down rene
Its crazy, I used to defend Opie and in retrospect wow. Just wow..
i fucking hate both of them
Point taken, I know that Opie found Ant and I'm guessing Jim, but he can't get credit for everyone.
One person led to the next once they had a comic on the show.
He's also the "genius" that seemed to think the Cuban and Vic were entertaining. Lol
Man said best thing you can do is blink ya eyes😂😂😂
"I've BEEN paranoid" hahahaha
Patrice will forever be the GOAT!!! 🐘
renee 1 opie ant 0
Does anyone know which patrice appearance this comes from? Is it before Patrice told them his story i wonder
Aww, Ant really got butthurt for being exposed.
ouncy exposed how?
My last name is elmont this TRIPPED me the fuck out at the beginning😂😂
16:00 Where's Poopaty Scoop Poop when you need'em ''You ain't got the answers man, YOU AIN'T GOT THE ANSWERS!''
Opie would start crying before he got through booking
The placement of the left cuff makes it look like Manson is carrying a tissue box. That makes him look all the more insane for some reason
And somehow he was allowed to have long hair and a beard in the California penal system.
Sure. Checks out.
He has then experimental military technology called baby wipes and the guard is freaked out at his clearance despite being a prisoner.
Always come back to CC for some great Ant n Patrice. 👉👊
Anthony is hilarious on this
This is rendered essentially unlistenable due to Opie's presence.
HOLD ON HOLD ON HOLD ON
"Let me go to AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA....."
FUCK! I just slammed my tablet down listening to that shit. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU OPIE! Christ IM mad for no reason listening to that fucking obnoxious shit dick.
He asks the conspiracy Anthony guy a question and he starts to answer and Opie immediately screams "hol on hold on hold on!!! Let's go to someone else real quick, alright go ahead conspiracy guy" jesus
LET IT GO, LET IT GO, LET IT GO....opie at his best, at being the no talent hack he is.....Ant carried that show
Leave it alone
While your house is burning down you'll at least have classic rewind to listen to - well done opie
Guy was 100% right about the spy shit, which gives mild credibility... and like patrice said... maybe it wasn't Manson, maybe it was some criminal that was codenamed Manson.
After all, in the 1960s tom leher literally made jokes about being in the NSA... when it was new and top secret.
Bin Laden was a CIA asset, his codename was Tim Osman.
As much sense as it makes giving ex convicts jobs so they aren't left with crime as the only option, the idea of them having priority over people who haven't fucked up their lives doesn't sit right with me. What would discourage people from committing crime if they knew they were guaranteed a job once they got out of prison? As long as it wasn't a massive sentence, it would be pretty appealing to just sell drugs and if you get caught you just do your time and then you are almost guaranteed a job afterwards. It could discourage repeat offenses, but encourage people to commit crime in the first place.