I added Profits from both Aging and not Aging Ancient Fruit Wine and the Profit Loss for a 56 day period into the Comments so people will not get confused anymore. Hope this Helps
Something I would do is make a lot of wine, put a decent bit into cask, then sell the rest. While the wine is aging, i would keep selling the non-aged wine. That way i will still be making lots of money and also have some big money makers in the future.
If you are going to age wine you should only make enough wine to age and sell. I have an older video showing the comparison of the 2 method jelly vs wine and aged wine vs selling the wine right away. Aging is always going to lose money. He has never fixed this problem. Most players just look at it as the sell price of one wine vs the same wine aged. But if you take time into account by the time you have fully aged one wine you could have sold a bunch of wine. You lose like millions by aging vs just selling them.
@@Magziesfuntime After doing the calculation, I can see what you mean. Generally speaking, it is better to put stuff until preserve jars. I think something I will do is grow a certain amount of Starfruit, make that into wine and then age it. All ancient fruit will be put into preserve jars. The reason why I still wanna do this is because I just like seeing all the big numbers.
@@Magziesfuntime That being said though, you also have to consider growth time of the crops as well. I don't really feel like doing the calculations for that honestly.
@@Magziesfuntime Ancient Fruit, takes 7 days to to produce a fruit, and kegs take 7 days to produce wine. Making ancient fruit wine technically the more ideal option.
Thanks! I just set up a cellar with casks and put the ancient fruit wine. Then realized it takes 2 whole seasons for it to age XD. Your video confirmed my suspicion, not even worth using casks lol.
The Preserve Jars make jelly or pickles. The comparison here is whether you can make more money selling in the same amount of time it takes to age one bottle of wine. Adding jelly would mean doing a different comparison. Better to save that for a different video.
If you look online at the wiki there is a chart for Gold per day there for each production type. Let's use Ancient Fruit as our crop with just the base quality. Jars will make you 240 g/per day, just turning it into wine will get you 176 g/per day, and Aging that wine will get you 29.5 G/per day. why this is is because Jars take only 2 days to process while kegs take 7 and Aging take 56. What this mean is you can make is in the same time it takes to make and age one Ancient Fruit wine you can make a sell `31 Juices from from a Jar. You can't always look at the raw price per item in Stardew Valley. Also in the same time it takes you to age 1 wine all the way up to max you could make and sell 8 more wines. you are basically losing money so you can make the items sell for more.
Using gold per day is disingenuous. If you had unlimited space to put casks then it would take 2 months to start making gold (assuming you start the timer when you finish turning the ancient fruit into wine. Then every time you do a harvest and turn what you can into wine put it all into caks) but after that 2 month dry period you would start making 2x the amount you would if you just skipped casks. This is why you are only limited to the basements but you will still be getting more gold per 2 months then you woudl if you were not using casks for literally 0 extra resources. The biggest point for using the basement for casks is you can place kegs literally everywhere. Fill the quarry, fill the desert, fill the beach, fill ginger island so that you don't have extra fruit. Then you set aside some of the wine harvested and age it. Also I advise filling your whole basement completely with kegs. And making multiple characters so you can have 4 basements. Basically tldr anyone who says using kegs in the basement is more efficient doesn't have enough kegs placed down on their world.
I feel like your missing the point here. Casks take 56 days to fully age a wine. If I put Kegs in the basement instead of every 7 days Ancient fruit grows I can refill the wine in the basement. That means I can make 8 Batches of reg Wine in the same amount of time it takes to make 1 Fully aged wine. That is 4,620 Gold per Aging wine making 577,500 gold per cycle in the Basement with Cask where as I can make 2,310 per keg for 2,310,000 gold in the basement in the same timeframe using only kegs and selling without aging it. You are losing 1,732,500 gold every cycle you age wine by aging it. Even if you do use Gold per day it makes no sense to age wine before selling unless you want to give some as gifts for friendship levels. These math doesn't change because you can place Kegs anywhere. this is why the Dev should look at the whole aging system and adjust so it is more profitible then just selling the wine which it is currently not.
@@Magziesfuntime I understand your point exactly. But I'm saying this is only true if you don't have enough casks to turn every ancient fruit you harvest into wine(this shouldn't be possible though). I only see it logically reasonable to plant ancient fruit in the greenhouse and ginger island because if you were to plant it elsewhere you are gonna have to deal with replacing a massive crop. Anywhere else though you can place a cask. This means there are more places to put casks than put an ancient fruit plant (also adding on the fact you can place more sheds which can house casks but not ancient fruit). Look at the basement as an investment for a portion of your harvest. The limiting factor is the places you can plant crops and the abundance is the tiles you can place casks because you can place them virtually anywhere. Tldr: you shouldn't have to resort to putting kegs in your basement because you should already be turning every ancient fruit into wine at other locations. Edit: sorry, I keep having to edit because I keep mixing up cask and keg.
Your point only takes into acount when you compare 1 aged wine to 1 non aged wine. If you do that you can say hey 1 aged wine sells for 4,620 and reg wine sells 2,310 which means that I make 2,310 more gold as lonng as I can put down enough Casks to age it all into wine. This Logic is flawed because 1 aged wine isn't equal to 1 wine it is equal to 8. Every plant is still going to produce every 7 days no matter how many Casks you have down. They are all going to give you 8 crops for every aged wine produce which you are going to turn into wine anyway. So for every 1 Aged wine produced you will produce 8 regular wine. That is 4,620 vs 18480. You will alway make more money, taking time into consideration, by selling every wine produce then aging it first. Do your own test if you like. Produce wine for 1 year only sell it. Then another year only selling they aged wine produced in that year and not the other wine.
This is what I’m understanding from both the video and the comments.. 1. If you fill up your basement with 189 casks and age your wine to iridium quality, it’ll take 56 days to age (2 seasons) 2. If you fill up your basement with 189 kegs and turn fruit into wine, it’ll take 7 days (8 times in 2 seasons) 3. 8 times 1 is a huge difference in profit and not only that you can place kegs anywhere, as casks can only be placed in the basement. Even if you had 4 cabins upgraded to have 4 basements (now 8 with the 1.6 update) you can have more kegs in those space too 4. BUT.. because you can place kegs almost anywhere, you won’t be growing enough crops to fill up all those kegs, so having a few extra wine to age in the basement while also selling wine every 7 days seems like a pretty good idea. I know this video came out 4 years ago, but nothing has changed with the kegs or casks (other than I believe in 1.6 there’s some places you can’t have kegs anymore) Just kinda wanted to say my thoughts, both the comments and the UA-camr are correct in some aspects. I’m starting a new play through and I was thinking if I should age my wine early on so that’s how I found this video. :)
Casks are broken, you can always just make more sheets for more casks. As well, you should not use your casks for ancient fruit wine unless that’s all you have, starfruit is far more profitable with casks. The key is patience, and just keeping stuff in your kegs, you don’t have to save everything for kegs, but there is no reason to not use the space to make the money. As well, fairy dust is an important part of kegs, it’s far more profitable to use fairy dust on casks, and fairy dust late game is pretty easy to set up for.
Ok so a few notes on your comment. This video was made 10 months before Fairy Dust was released into Stardew Valley. Also Fairy has a cost of a little over 1k to make as you can just sell the diamonds for 750 and the base sell price for Fairy Rose is 290. That means you would be spending 1k+ gold to make wine fastest which you really don't need to do anyway. You can just place more kegs. The point of the video is the cellar can be used to produce 270 aged wine or 376,218 wine. It doesn't matter which fruit you use. The numbers in the video are for Anicent Fruit. Those number would not change using by using Starfruit only the price they sell for. Basically you can use the cellar to make 1,701,000 gold in aged Starfruit wine or 1,185,086,700 gold in starfruit wine not aged in one year. It isn't more profitable to make aged wine for any reason until they fix the aging process. You should never make aged products for the most part. Selling the product as it is made will always make you more money then aging for wine. Now making Fairy dust means you are using space that could be used to make more wine to get some wine in one day for a cost of over 1,000+ gold and each spot used means not make 3k plus from that spot. Not including diamond take 5 days to produce.
@@Magziesfuntime We’ll agree to disagree. 1k vs the several thousands of dollars you gain from using it on a cask isn’t even comparable. Diamonds can easily be mass produced late game, if anything fairy rose is the limiting step, but it’s pretty easy to just use the island to produce it now. The entire premise of the supposed profit you’ll be gaining assumes that you’re gonna have enough of any fruit to continuously use the space to produce wine in kegs, while you could just do that anywhere. And it definitely does matter what fruit you use lmao, all of the fruits have different profit margins, that’s why you specifically use the casks for starfruit. Because you lose profit when you use the casks of ancient fruit(less gold per day). We’re talking late game, and when it comes to late game, it makes no sense to allocate that space specifically to kegs. Especially when you skip a lot of days anyways, and specifically when you can mass produce fairy dust. I didn’t realize that this video was made when fairy dust had yet to be added, but it changes nothing, because we’re playing the game in 1.5. The problem here is that you think I’m going to be putting aged wine into the cask and save it all for that, but I do not, I sell the vast majority of my wine without aging it all, but there is no point in not using the space for casks to make even more money than I would have if I had just sold it all without aging any of it.
I added Profits from both Aging and not Aging Ancient Fruit Wine and the Profit Loss for a 56 day period into the Comments so people will not get confused anymore. Hope this Helps
Something I would do is make a lot of wine, put a decent bit into cask, then sell the rest. While the wine is aging, i would keep selling the non-aged wine. That way i will still be making lots of money and also have some big money makers in the future.
If you are going to age wine you should only make enough wine to age and sell. I have an older video showing the comparison of the 2 method jelly vs wine and aged wine vs selling the wine right away. Aging is always going to lose money. He has never fixed this problem. Most players just look at it as the sell price of one wine vs the same wine aged. But if you take time into account by the time you have fully aged one wine you could have sold a bunch of wine. You lose like millions by aging vs just selling them.
@@Magziesfuntime After doing the calculation, I can see what you mean. Generally speaking, it is better to put stuff until preserve jars. I think something I will do is grow a certain amount of Starfruit, make that into wine and then age it. All ancient fruit will be put into preserve jars. The reason why I still wanna do this is because I just like seeing all the big numbers.
@@Magziesfuntime That being said though, you also have to consider growth time of the crops as well. I don't really feel like doing the calculations for that honestly.
@@Magziesfuntime Ancient Fruit, takes 7 days to to produce a fruit, and kegs take 7 days to produce wine. Making ancient fruit wine technically the more ideal option.
Thanks! I just set up a cellar with casks and put the ancient fruit wine. Then realized it takes 2 whole seasons for it to age XD. Your video confirmed my suspicion, not even worth using casks lol.
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I would have liked to se the preserve jars also in this setup. I think they win overall.... ;)
The Preserve Jars make jelly or pickles. The comparison here is whether you can make more money selling in the same amount of time it takes to age one bottle of wine. Adding jelly would mean doing a different comparison. Better to save that for a different video.
Very helpful! Thanks!
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Hi thanks alot I ve been working on my wine farm and this helps alot thank you
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@@Magziesfuntime ok
What is the "Gold Per Day" on Jar Vs Keg Only Vs Keg W/Cask?
If you look online at the wiki there is a chart for Gold per day there for each production type. Let's use Ancient Fruit as our crop with just the base quality. Jars will make you 240 g/per day, just turning it into wine will get you 176 g/per day, and Aging that wine will get you 29.5 G/per day. why this is is because Jars take only 2 days to process while kegs take 7 and Aging take 56. What this mean is you can make is in the same time it takes to make and age one Ancient Fruit wine you can make a sell `31 Juices from from a Jar. You can't always look at the raw price per item in Stardew Valley. Also in the same time it takes you to age 1 wine all the way up to max you could make and sell 8 more wines. you are basically losing money so you can make the items sell for more.
Using gold per day is disingenuous. If you had unlimited space to put casks then it would take 2 months to start making gold (assuming you start the timer when you finish turning the ancient fruit into wine. Then every time you do a harvest and turn what you can into wine put it all into caks) but after that 2 month dry period you would start making 2x the amount you would if you just skipped casks.
This is why you are only limited to the basements but you will still be getting more gold per 2 months then you woudl if you were not using casks for literally 0 extra resources.
The biggest point for using the basement for casks is you can place kegs literally everywhere. Fill the quarry, fill the desert, fill the beach, fill ginger island so that you don't have extra fruit. Then you set aside some of the wine harvested and age it.
Also I advise filling your whole basement completely with kegs. And making multiple characters so you can have 4 basements.
Basically tldr anyone who says using kegs in the basement is more efficient doesn't have enough kegs placed down on their world.
I feel like your missing the point here. Casks take 56 days to fully age a wine. If I put Kegs in the basement instead of every 7 days Ancient fruit grows I can refill the wine in the basement. That means I can make 8 Batches of reg Wine in the same amount of time it takes to make 1 Fully aged wine. That is 4,620 Gold per Aging wine making 577,500 gold per cycle in the Basement with Cask where as I can make 2,310 per keg for 2,310,000 gold in the basement in the same timeframe using only kegs and selling without aging it. You are losing 1,732,500 gold every cycle you age wine by aging it. Even if you do use Gold per day it makes no sense to age wine before selling unless you want to give some as gifts for friendship levels. These math doesn't change because you can place Kegs anywhere. this is why the Dev should look at the whole aging system and adjust so it is more profitible then just selling the wine which it is currently not.
@@Magziesfuntime I understand your point exactly. But I'm saying this is only true if you don't have enough casks to turn every ancient fruit you harvest into wine(this shouldn't be possible though).
I only see it logically reasonable to plant ancient fruit in the greenhouse and ginger island because if you were to plant it elsewhere you are gonna have to deal with replacing a massive crop. Anywhere else though you can place a cask. This means there are more places to put casks than put an ancient fruit plant (also adding on the fact you can place more sheds which can house casks but not ancient fruit).
Look at the basement as an investment for a portion of your harvest. The limiting factor is the places you can plant crops and the abundance is the tiles you can place casks because you can place them virtually anywhere.
Tldr: you shouldn't have to resort to putting kegs in your basement because you should already be turning every ancient fruit into wine at other locations.
Edit: sorry, I keep having to edit because I keep mixing up cask and keg.
Your point only takes into acount when you compare 1 aged wine to 1 non aged wine. If you do that you can say hey 1 aged wine sells for 4,620 and reg wine sells 2,310 which means that I make 2,310 more gold as lonng as I can put down enough Casks to age it all into wine. This Logic is flawed because 1 aged wine isn't equal to 1 wine it is equal to 8. Every plant is still going to produce every 7 days no matter how many Casks you have down. They are all going to give you 8 crops for every aged wine produce which you are going to turn into wine anyway. So for every 1 Aged wine produced you will produce 8 regular wine. That is 4,620 vs 18480. You will alway make more money, taking time into consideration, by selling every wine produce then aging it first. Do your own test if you like. Produce wine for 1 year only sell it. Then another year only selling they aged wine produced in that year and not the other wine.
This is what I’m understanding from both the video and the comments..
1. If you fill up your basement with 189 casks and age your wine to iridium quality, it’ll take 56 days to age (2 seasons)
2. If you fill up your basement with 189 kegs and turn fruit into wine, it’ll take 7 days (8 times in 2 seasons)
3. 8 times 1 is a huge difference in profit and not only that you can place kegs anywhere, as casks can only be placed in the basement. Even if you had 4 cabins upgraded to have 4 basements (now 8 with the 1.6 update) you can have more kegs in those space too
4. BUT.. because you can place kegs almost anywhere, you won’t be growing enough crops to fill up all those kegs, so having a few extra wine to age in the basement while also selling wine every 7 days seems like a pretty good idea.
I know this video came out 4 years ago, but nothing has changed with the kegs or casks (other than I believe in 1.6 there’s some places you can’t have kegs anymore) Just kinda wanted to say my thoughts, both the comments and the UA-camr are correct in some aspects. I’m starting a new play through and I was thinking if I should age my wine early on so that’s how I found this video. :)
Casks are broken, you can always just make more sheets for more casks. As well, you should not use your casks for ancient fruit wine unless that’s all you have, starfruit is far more profitable with casks. The key is patience, and just keeping stuff in your kegs, you don’t have to save everything for kegs, but there is no reason to not use the space to make the money. As well, fairy dust is an important part of kegs, it’s far more profitable to use fairy dust on casks, and fairy dust late game is pretty easy to set up for.
Ok so a few notes on your comment. This video was made 10 months before Fairy Dust was released into Stardew Valley. Also Fairy has a cost of a little over 1k to make as you can just sell the diamonds for 750 and the base sell price for Fairy Rose is 290. That means you would be spending 1k+ gold to make wine fastest which you really don't need to do anyway. You can just place more kegs. The point of the video is the cellar can be used to produce 270 aged wine or 376,218 wine. It doesn't matter which fruit you use. The numbers in the video are for Anicent Fruit. Those number would not change using by using Starfruit only the price they sell for. Basically you can use the cellar to make 1,701,000 gold in aged Starfruit wine or 1,185,086,700 gold in starfruit wine not aged in one year. It isn't more profitable to make aged wine for any reason until they fix the aging process. You should never make aged products for the most part. Selling the product as it is made will always make you more money then aging for wine. Now making Fairy dust means you are using space that could be used to make more wine to get some wine in one day for a cost of over 1,000+ gold and each spot used means not make 3k plus from that spot. Not including diamond take 5 days to produce.
@@Magziesfuntime We’ll agree to disagree. 1k vs the several thousands of dollars you gain from using it on a cask isn’t even comparable. Diamonds can easily be mass produced late game, if anything fairy rose is the limiting step, but it’s pretty easy to just use the island to produce it now. The entire premise of the supposed profit you’ll be gaining assumes that you’re gonna have enough of any fruit to continuously use the space to produce wine in kegs, while you could just do that anywhere. And it definitely does matter what fruit you use lmao, all of the fruits have different profit margins, that’s why you specifically use the casks for starfruit. Because you lose profit when you use the casks of ancient fruit(less gold per day). We’re talking late game, and when it comes to late game, it makes no sense to allocate that space specifically to kegs. Especially when you skip a lot of days anyways, and specifically when you can mass produce fairy dust. I didn’t realize that this video was made when fairy dust had yet to be added, but it changes nothing, because we’re playing the game in 1.5. The problem here is that you think I’m going to be putting aged wine into the cask and save it all for that, but I do not, I sell the vast majority of my wine without aging it all, but there is no point in not using the space for casks to make even more money than I would have if I had just sold it all without aging any of it.