Khorne was birthed from murders, Tzeentch from schemes and plots, Nurgle through rot and decay and Slaanesh of course is the fault of the elves... But Vashtorr was the creation of every mechanic who used Percussive Maintenance on their machines..
Bringing Vashtorr into the story is a way to actually make it, make sense that Peter Turbo stays chaos. Machine crafting chaos god + Peter Turbo is a match made in the warp.
I love iron warriors and this is what I’m thinking. It would help make a lot of things make sense and also has a lotta different routes to take. You could make Peter Turbo a demon, Prince or to where he looks like he’s a demon prince, but he actually is just an giant life-support suit or they could still go the route that he infected himself with the obliterator virus…..well a more perfected form.
One thing we need to understand about the warp is that the chaos gods aren't the warp, they are the strongest forces in the warp yes, but they don't define the warp
@skypiratecaptain welp yes...zeetch sent a greater demon to the deep warp on a intel operation lol it came back insane....that dickhead karos fateweaver. One head speaks truth the other head lies.
I’m hoping he’s successful, it would make sense if Perty somehow slips up and becomes an avatar for his cause. A charged up demon-dread-primarch would be dope AF!!!!
@@guilherme5094 fabulous bill is my favorite. Manflayer is up there with betrayer as far as epic monologs and funny stuff but he did sell his soul to the lady boi themselves for the help in keeping his children safe. Even tho he died but didn't and he still had a soul for kanathara to try to take at the end of the story......
I will Third that second all night long, Good Enemies be hard to find! Ole Bale Eye is Legendary amongst the Imperium and Orks and for damn good reason.
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Thats a good question. Id definitely say he could represent a few things really. Intelligence, ambition and will power seem decent ideas but maybe he could also be involved in the act of billions augmenting themselves with bionics and mechanical prosthetics and could draw some of his (un)divinity from that or at least once he achieves apotheosis? IDK this is just a very quick glossing over and I haven't had a chance to really read a lot of novels or anything with a great deal of vashtorr so this is a very baseline scrutiny of his character.
This entire battle with the Dark Wusses went completely illogical. Explaining: Power Armour, Shieldings, Mechanics, all that is somewhat of technological nature, is under influence of Vashtor. He can make Power Armours kill their inhabitants, then control them onwards. He can turn any shielding against their makers/controllers. He can divert energies, stop energies, or start energies to flow where, when, and how he wants. Those with brain implants, and this would be about all of them, could be influenced in thought and action by him. He can make entire ships battle their own fleet, by "mere thought". How so? ALL of technological nature is revealed to him as he looks at it, and can be, therefore, be manipulated by him. He can simply order technological mechanics at will, though literally willpower over the mechanics, or through "Techno-Speak", in essense, base Machine Code, or Binary (in our reality). Now, here we see the EXACT SAME THING happen as with the Borg in Star Trek: MASSIVELY underplayed compared to their abilities, corrupted in this manner, only to "serve the story". Sure, the Borg were INVINCIBLE at first (but were corrupted along the way, weakened, "idiotified", through things like that IMPOSSIBILITY: the "Borg Queen", which is 1'000% Anti-Borg in nature, for one.). If you do something as stupid and create an overwhelming foe that can't be dealt with in normal ways, DEAL with it, and do not start to "unmake" it, by weakening it in whatever way. That is extremely poor writing, extremely poor thinking, in short, extremely unintelligent qualitative creation. Dead simple fact.
Think it through: He is already the God of Technology! None other has these abilities, as he has them. USE THEM, even if it kills the whole franchise. Why? Well, because that would happen in reality. Lesson to be learned here? Don't be a fool and create unbeatable god-beings. THINK before you DO. Then think it over, make SURE it works out. Then do this last step 20 times over, to eliminate possible creative suicide!!! Just do not "underwhelm" an "overwhelming" creation in his actions, abilities, or resistances. Keep it realistic, only THEN, you get quality creation!!! Feel free to disagree, but motivate it in a proper way. "Just because." is not an argument. Why not? Well, JUST BECAUSE. *Grins coldly with a gleam of fake intelligence in his eyes* There. :P In all seriousness: Because, without proper motivation, reasons become lies: Or: If not motivated, you give the impression not to understand it, and remove the chance for the other to reply on it, or to learn of a different logical point of view. Which is never a good thing, for either side of a conversation.
[Not literally, but for reason, later explained in this reply] "Vashtor took control over the defence platforms, and turned them into Be'lakor's army, annihilating many, and gravely wounding Be'lakor." And now, the reason: This exact part proves what I said afore: Vashtor can take control over anything that is somewhat of technological form, and either remake it, simply "kill it" (in it's workings), or turn it against it's own users. And STILL Vastor lost this one? Get real.
On the OTHER hand: Be'lakor (The First-Damned AKA "The One Who Heralds the Conquerors" and "The Dark Master"), equally so, was underplayed here. He's the Master of Betrayal, and could have used his powers to undermine the loyalty of Vashtor's supporting armies or their generals/commanding officers. But no, let's not do that, though it would have been a severe blow to Vashtor, and thus logical and realistic to do so. But why be logical and realistic? Let's not do this, and kill the whole story, the whole franchise, by not doing so. Since, "that is logical and thus realistically good to do so." It matters not, as there are billions on inconsistencies allover the WH40k Lore, what makes another one more? And this, then, explains the intellect that drives Games Workshop. Or, the lack thereof.
Another example of this "Underplaying" issue; the Tyranid: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This happened with the Tyranid and the Orcs in the Orctarius War: The Tyranid came out victorious, and HOW!!! VASTLY improved by the "Great Orc Munching Fest", the Tyranid Leviathan Fleet got pounded by the Empire??? Not even remotely so!!! It was a moron's move to have the Tyranid and Orc clash, as the outcome was dictated even before the idea came to bear by Kryptman (Well, the writer, really.). The Tyranid overcome all obstacles, as they can "adapt on the fly" to whatever form of technology, tactics, or masses they encounter. This alone gave the Tyranid the overwhelming certainty of complete overwhelming victory over the Orcs, and by that, IMMENSE further bolstering of their species. One with half a fish-brain of a million-year-dead goldfish would not have even CONSIDERED pulling this stunty off in ANY a story, but the writer(s) did. With consequences. Consequences that were completely ignored, UNDONE even, in the following clash with the Empire of ManUnkind!!! Blasphemy! And with the Tyranid, equally so, this is a continuity: Underplayed, misplayed, corrupted despite set Law and Lore. Why people allow this is beyond me. It's becoming a second "Star Wars - Acolyte", where Anti-Lore and Idiocies rule that realm. Maybe we can call this in Warhammer "Warhammer 40K - Acolyte", Warhammer 40K - The Kathleen Kennedyfied Edition", "Warhammer 40K Disneyfied Edition" or "Warhammer 40K -Anti-Lore Edition"? Merely thinking out loud, here ... . So in- and in sad ... .
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Khorne was birthed from murders, Tzeentch from schemes and plots,
Nurgle through rot and decay and Slaanesh of course is the fault of the elves... But Vashtorr was the creation of every mechanic who used Percussive Maintenance on their machines..
If I spank my rusty toaster really hard to possibly get it to work, which god is pleased?
Bringing Vashtorr into the story is a way to actually make it, make sense that Peter Turbo stays chaos. Machine crafting chaos god + Peter Turbo is a match made in the warp.
I love iron warriors and this is what I’m thinking. It would help make a lot of things make sense and also has a lotta different routes to take. You could make Peter Turbo a demon, Prince or to where he looks like he’s a demon prince, but he actually is just an giant life-support suit or they could still go the route that he infected himself with the obliterator virus…..well a more perfected form.
One thing we need to understand about the warp is that the chaos gods aren't the warp, they are the strongest forces in the warp yes, but they don't define the warp
Aren’t there things in the deep warp that the chaos gods avoid?
@@skypiratecaptain I'm sure but where does it say so in lore
Incorrect
@skypiratecaptain welp yes...zeetch sent a greater demon to the deep warp on a intel operation lol it came back insane....that dickhead karos fateweaver. One head speaks truth the other head lies.
So basically the gods are weak and stupid?
once again, he blesses our hungry lobes with rich lore. The iterator does not MISS
This MF don't miss
Ahh yes mah lobes.
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I’m hoping he’s successful, it would make sense if Perty somehow slips up and becomes an avatar for his cause. A charged up demon-dread-primarch would be dope AF!!!!
Fabius: well, I don't believe in Gods or religion, but we have a really interesting case here!
@@guilherme5094 fabulous bill is my favorite. Manflayer is up there with betrayer as far as epic monologs and funny stuff but he did sell his soul to the lady boi themselves for the help in keeping his children safe. Even tho he died but didn't and he still had a soul for kanathara to try to take at the end of the story......
Yoooo love me some Vashtorr. Hype lore vid!
To the ends of the Earth Mal Ganis! To THE ENDS OF THE EARTH!
Vashtorr and Fabius Bail : how to piss everyone off and not get pissed off
Bail
Ngl rn this character is the one I've got the most interest in lol
If you are gonna lie will you let us know in advance?
I love that The Emperor was so completely wrong that there is a chaos god of logic and science.
Thanks!
*Angry Incoherent Khornate Berserker noises*
Great content. For the algorithm my good man and excellent excellent content creator!
This is the best lore ever
Is there a chance for a lore video about Sebastian Yarrick?
Seconded, Yarrick’s amazing!
I will Third that second all night long, Good Enemies be hard to find! Ole Bale Eye is Legendary amongst the Imperium and Orks and for damn good reason.
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Love these videos. by any chance you doing something on Constantin Valdor?
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Good man. Mashing the share button, saving and leaving comments helps.
Love finding some Vashtorr lore. What's the source for this? Would love to find the text for reading.
very good video, thank you:)
Niiiiiice! I been dying for some new Vashtorr.
For the ALGORITHM!
A man of the Lore !
Another awesome vid!
Good luck to Vashtor.
I think the nerds needed a new God to add to the mix, and look, this dude wears glasses lol
Long time heretic, yes, this wire mess is what was missing. It's not a stretch the dark side of mechanicus would have their own
"Oi...is dating you vashi'tor da arse-on-flame? Kum 'ere gonna give ya a proppa krumpin."
Love Kronan.
Deamon Princes that do not want to associate with the chaos gods? That doesn't really make sense you couldn't become a prince
damn good vid
Imagine subjugating all the chaos God because you're the key to all their most desired treasures.
Hashut still lives......🔥♉🔥
HAIL VASHTORR the ARKHIFANE! TRUE OMNISSIAH!
Vashtorr will replace Slanesh because Slan's suggestive themes are problematic if 40k is going to be more 'mainstream'....
This is good stuff. Too bad I just can't take anything with Abaddon the Armless in it seriously.
The thumbnail really looks like Marauder Shields...
Yes Algorr the Rythm daemon Prince Of Clicks
The ending is cut
13:28 the recent AT&T "hack".
I like vashtorr because he Stomps.
I hate Vashtorr for stomping the Dark Angels. Vengeance (hopefully)is forthcoming.
The true Omnissiah.
warp realm war, where chaos make war with other chaos tobe the best, i want to play it 😭
Did I see a mark of slannesh on an iron warrior?
Yep. I guess he gets off on the cannons, armor, and sieges. To each his own, I guess.
The Greatest Arms Dealer in 40k?
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Hashut > Vash'torr
Given Vashtor's standing, I wonder how long it'll be until those loyal to the Omnissiah's will make their move.
Vashtor chaos god of what exactly…. What could vashtor eventually be.
If I’m not mistaken, it’s heavy machinery. I’m hoping he seduces the Iron Warriors
Machine spirit...
The Omnissiah's dark reflection
Thats a good question. Id definitely say he could represent a few things really. Intelligence, ambition and will power seem decent ideas but maybe he could also be involved in the act of billions augmenting themselves with bionics and mechanical prosthetics and could draw some of his (un)divinity from that or at least once he achieves apotheosis? IDK this is just a very quick glossing over and I haven't had a chance to really read a lot of novels or anything with a great deal of vashtorr so this is a very baseline scrutiny of his character.
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This entire battle with the Dark Wusses went completely illogical.
Explaining:
Power Armour, Shieldings, Mechanics, all that is somewhat of technological nature, is under influence of Vashtor.
He can make Power Armours kill their inhabitants, then control them onwards.
He can turn any shielding against their makers/controllers.
He can divert energies, stop energies, or start energies to flow where, when, and how he wants.
Those with brain implants, and this would be about all of them, could be influenced in thought and action by him.
He can make entire ships battle their own fleet, by "mere thought".
How so?
ALL of technological nature is revealed to him as he looks at it, and can be, therefore, be manipulated by him.
He can simply order technological mechanics at will, though literally willpower over the mechanics, or through "Techno-Speak", in essense, base Machine Code, or Binary (in our reality).
Now, here we see the EXACT SAME THING happen as with the Borg in Star Trek:
MASSIVELY underplayed compared to their abilities, corrupted in this manner, only to "serve the story".
Sure, the Borg were INVINCIBLE at first (but were corrupted along the way, weakened, "idiotified", through things like that IMPOSSIBILITY: the "Borg Queen", which is 1'000% Anti-Borg in nature, for one.).
If you do something as stupid and create an overwhelming foe that can't be dealt with in normal ways, DEAL with it, and do not start to "unmake" it, by weakening it in whatever way.
That is extremely poor writing, extremely poor thinking, in short, extremely unintelligent qualitative creation.
Dead simple fact.
Think it through:
He is already the God of Technology!
None other has these abilities, as he has them.
USE THEM, even if it kills the whole franchise.
Why?
Well, because that would happen in reality.
Lesson to be learned here?
Don't be a fool and create unbeatable god-beings.
THINK before you DO.
Then think it over, make SURE it works out.
Then do this last step 20 times over, to eliminate possible creative suicide!!!
Just do not "underwhelm" an "overwhelming" creation in his actions, abilities, or resistances.
Keep it realistic, only THEN, you get quality creation!!!
Feel free to disagree, but motivate it in a proper way.
"Just because." is not an argument.
Why not?
Well, JUST BECAUSE. *Grins coldly with a gleam of fake intelligence in his eyes*
There. :P
In all seriousness:
Because, without proper motivation, reasons become lies:
Or:
If not motivated, you give the impression not to understand it, and remove the chance for the other to reply on it, or to learn of a different logical point of view.
Which is never a good thing, for either side of a conversation.
[Not literally, but for reason, later explained in this reply]
"Vashtor took control over the defence platforms, and turned them into Be'lakor's army, annihilating many, and gravely wounding Be'lakor."
And now, the reason:
This exact part proves what I said afore:
Vashtor can take control over anything that is somewhat of technological form, and either remake it, simply "kill it" (in it's workings), or turn it against it's own users.
And STILL Vastor lost this one?
Get real.
On the OTHER hand:
Be'lakor (The First-Damned AKA "The One Who Heralds the Conquerors" and "The Dark Master"), equally so, was underplayed here.
He's the Master of Betrayal, and could have used his powers to undermine the loyalty of Vashtor's supporting armies or their generals/commanding officers.
But no, let's not do that, though it would have been a severe blow to Vashtor, and thus logical and realistic to do so.
But why be logical and realistic?
Let's not do this, and kill the whole story, the whole franchise, by not doing so.
Since, "that is logical and thus realistically good to do so."
It matters not, as there are billions on inconsistencies allover the WH40k Lore, what makes another one more?
And this, then, explains the intellect that drives Games Workshop.
Or, the lack thereof.
Another example of this "Underplaying" issue; the Tyranid:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This happened with the Tyranid and the Orcs in the Orctarius War:
The Tyranid came out victorious, and HOW!!!
VASTLY improved by the "Great Orc Munching Fest", the Tyranid Leviathan Fleet got pounded by the Empire???
Not even remotely so!!!
It was a moron's move to have the Tyranid and Orc clash, as the outcome was dictated even before the idea came to bear by Kryptman (Well, the writer, really.).
The Tyranid overcome all obstacles, as they can "adapt on the fly" to whatever form of technology, tactics, or masses they encounter.
This alone gave the Tyranid the overwhelming certainty of complete overwhelming victory over the Orcs, and by that, IMMENSE further bolstering of their species.
One with half a fish-brain of a million-year-dead goldfish would not have even CONSIDERED pulling this stunty off in ANY a story, but the writer(s) did.
With consequences.
Consequences that were completely ignored, UNDONE even, in the following clash with the Empire of ManUnkind!!!
Blasphemy!
And with the Tyranid, equally so, this is a continuity:
Underplayed, misplayed, corrupted despite set Law and Lore.
Why people allow this is beyond me.
It's becoming a second "Star Wars - Acolyte", where Anti-Lore and Idiocies rule that realm.
Maybe we can call this in Warhammer "Warhammer 40K - Acolyte", Warhammer 40K - The Kathleen Kennedyfied Edition", "Warhammer 40K Disneyfied Edition" or "Warhammer 40K -Anti-Lore Edition"?
Merely thinking out loud, here ... .
So in- and in sad ... .