Surprise, the wonder people at Morningstar are already working on it. They've been teasing pics of the prototype on social media. It will be only slightly bigger than the ML5 I believe they said.
Works great! How about a version using 1 stereo input pr loop (tip:send, ring:return). Just to get it smaller, and maybe get a few extra loops. Buffers maybe?
I’d like to put most of my pedals into a rack unit (hidden/behind/beside my amplifier) with the ML5 hooked up to them and have channel selector out front with just a wah and a tuner maybe i.e minimalist approach. Is this possible?? can the ML5 be wirelessly connected to the switcher out front?? or do you just need a lengthy cable? Any feedback on this would be greatly appreciated!! Thank you!
Yes, that is possible. You can have a wired or wireless connection. The choice is yours. One of the readily available wireless MIDI options is the CME WIDI Jack.
Can I have switch A in stompbox mode (loop on/off hitting switch A for example) but override this switch when hitting B and go back to A again when turning off B?
I assume you are referring to switches on your Morningstar MIDI controller. Yes, you can. Every switch is independently programmable. So switch A can be used to toggle the bypass state of loops and switch be can be used to recall presets if you want.
The problem here is the five pedals you want attached to ML5 have to be in immediate series with each other which limits what order my pedals have to be in. But I suppose that why they made the ML10X…
Hi there! I'm a newbie to MIDI so this is probably a silly question. I want to be able to switch each of my overdrives on and off with switch A, B, C, and D. Do I need to use the toggle setting where the first position is 127 for the CC value on #6 to activate loop A? I wasn't sure if I now have to program the second position as a CC value of 0 to turn it off? That part is a little confusing.
Thanks for the explanation about using PC messages. Nice and simple if you have a dedicated PC switch. Though how do you send a PC message to the ML5 if you are set up to scroll through presets? Do you scroll off and on to the correct PC number? - OR do you have to set it up on the wrong patch the move to the right patch to send the PC message to the ML5?
Hi! Please send us an email at ‘help@morningstarfx.com’. We provide support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily.
Yes, you can use it as an amp selector. You can engage the amp you want and bypass the amp you don't want to use. The amps will take up 2 loops. You will still have 3 loops before that for pedals, which will be sent to whichever amp is active.
Very cool - what about also using the MC6 to control midi able pedals? Is there a way to control all pedals on the board(midi and non midi pedals) from the MC6?
Dear Sir.....I have the Hotone Ampero Control 4, MIDI switcher. Can I use my Hotone Ampero Control 4 to work with the ML5, instead of using yr Morningstar's MIDI switchers? Thank you 🙏
Hi. As long as the Ampero Control 4 can send PC messages, you can use it to recall loop combinations using the Learn feature on the ML5 as shown in the video. And as long as it can send the necessary CC messages to control individual loops, you can use it to engage/bypass individual loops as shown in this video too.
so, if I had a midi foot controller with PC and CC programming capabilities, would this be possible? Switch 1 turns on and off loop 4 in the chain. Switch 2 toggles between loop 2 and 3. Switch 3 toggles loop 1 on and off ?
Hi. As long as your MIDI controller can send the required MIDI messages that will work. Check out the ML5 MIDI implementation in the manual here: manuals.morningstar.io/ml5/ml5-user-manual#ML5UserManual-MIDIImplementation
Hi. Those are Rockboard flat MIDI cables. Do bear in mind which direction your MIDI ports are pointing in before purchasing. Angled MIDI cables can obstruct adjacent ports, which can be undesirable.
Hi. Yes, you can MIDI chain as many as you need together. Setting each of them to different MIDI channels will give you individual control over every loop. You can also send PC messages to both ML5s to use learn mode like a 10 loop switcher.
@@cvkballisticrhino1393 hey, thank you for replying back! I did find out from the manual. You unplug the power and then plug it back in while holding down button E. Then when the button starts blinking, you select ABC D or E. Each one of those is a midi number.
@@MorningstarEngineering oooo just tot I tried it but surprisingly it worked with !! Loving the ML5. Should have gotten the 10 now that I think about it
@@MorningstarEngineering I have the deck link to my computer and usb midi out from the computer to the ML5. It’s handy that the ML 5 has a thru out for my amp switcher so I can switch on and off my pedals and amps from my desk.
@@TheSoundsOfSirens Ah ok so you are running it through your computer and have a USB MIDI interface as well. That will work! I thought you wanted to control the ML5 directly with the stream deck.
Great! Could you describe how to make presets both in ML5 and Strymons? How can I program one stomp to engage A, B and E on ML5, Bank 00 Preset 01 on BigSky and Bank 10 Preset 02 on Timeline?
Hi. That is very easily done and we're happy to guide you. Please send us an email at ‘help@morningstarfx.com’. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily. Cheers!
@@ucielybarra7454 Learn feature is fancy, but leads to uncontrollable, implicit behaviour. Switching off/on by CC messages in a shitty idea. But Remembering and recording 5-10 PC messages with loop combinations you need is a game changer.
Hi. The Morningstar Editor software comes free with all our controllers. You can access it via Chrome browser (editor-mkii.morningstar.io/) or download the application.
If you’re referring to the other device shown in the video (MC6) to control ML5, yes you need to purchase that too. But by now you’ve probably figured that out!
Hi. Yes, you can do that. The ML5s have MIDI in and thru ports so you can daisy chain as many as you need together. Setting each ML5 to a different MIDI channel will give you individual control over every loop. You can use learn mode and send a PC message to both ML5s so they will learn simultaneously.
Hi. What about? Please send us an email at help@morningstarfx.com. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily. Cheers!
![I can no longer return to a normal switcher [Morningstar ML5]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zzx0TgQC5jY/mqdefault.jpg)
Would love to see a MIDI-controlled Loop Switcher that allows reconfiguring the order of the loops ini the chain. Thanks.
This! That would be a game changer.
Surprise, the wonder people at Morningstar are already working on it. They've been teasing pics of the prototype on social media. It will be only slightly bigger than the ML5 I believe they said.
@@joshplaysbass I hope they make many. They are going to sell fast!
@@joshplaysbass It'd be amazing if I could put it underneath the board. I just hope it won't be too high. Hope. Hope.
@@joshplaysbass I didn’t find this in their Instagram account. Can you tell where you saw the teasers? Thanks
Can I just map it like 1:1 to a midi controller? Basically just making a midi controller an on off switch? 🤔
Can the ML5 also recall certain presets via TRS? Or is it just to turn on and off pedals that have no midi?
I own this and didn’t know all of the info here. Thanks!
Works great! How about a version using 1 stereo input pr loop (tip:send, ring:return). Just to get it smaller, and maybe get a few extra loops. Buffers maybe?
I’d like to put most of my pedals into a rack unit (hidden/behind/beside my amplifier) with the ML5 hooked up to them and have channel selector out front with just a wah and a tuner maybe i.e minimalist approach.
Is this possible?? can the ML5 be wirelessly connected to the switcher out front?? or do you just need a lengthy cable? Any feedback on this would be greatly appreciated!!
Thank you!
Yes, that is possible. You can have a wired or wireless connection. The choice is yours. One of the readily available wireless MIDI options is the CME WIDI Jack.
I wish you could engage learn mode with a message as well.
Can I have switch A in stompbox mode (loop on/off hitting switch A for example) but override this switch when hitting B and go back to A again when turning off B?
I assume you are referring to switches on your Morningstar MIDI controller. Yes, you can. Every switch is independently programmable. So switch A can be used to toggle the bypass state of loops and switch be can be used to recall presets if you want.
yes, took me a while to find this thing i needed!
Can you choose the order of the signal? for example: doing one preset signal going A-C-E and another preset signal going C-B-A-D
The ML5 cannot. That's what the Ml10X is for: www.morningstar.io/ml10x
with a EQD pedal that has trails: can this be allowed through the ML5?
brilliant video, brilliant product. exactly what i need for my rig
Waouw looks nice. Can I use it as an extra 5 loops for my EFX LE midi switcher ?
I have two of these on my board and love them!
How difficult to setup and use this with mc6 pro and other midi pedals?
Thanks for this video. Really handy!
The ML5 needs to be in my life. Mhmmm. Yep.
The problem here is the five pedals you want attached to ML5 have to be in immediate series with each other which limits what order my pedals have to be in. But I suppose that why they made the ML10X…
Is there a way that this unit can do "spillover"-effects?
Hi. That's not a feature available on the ML5
Loop is one wire path?
The ML5 is in series only. If you required stereo or parallel routing options please check out the ML10X
Hi there! I'm a newbie to MIDI so this is probably a silly question. I want to be able to switch each of my overdrives on and off with switch A, B, C, and D. Do I need to use the toggle setting where the first position is 127 for the CC value on #6 to activate loop A? I wasn't sure if I now have to program the second position as a CC value of 0 to turn it off? That part is a little confusing.
2:59 explains this. With this you don't need to use toggle mode on your Morningstar controller.
Thanks for the explanation about using PC messages. Nice and simple if you have a dedicated PC switch. Though how do you send a PC message to the ML5 if you are set up to scroll through presets? Do you scroll off and on to the correct PC number? - OR do you have to set it up on the wrong patch the move to the right patch to send the PC message to the ML5?
Hi! Please send us an email at ‘help@morningstarfx.com’. We provide support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily.
Yeh amazing pedals but literally need much longer and in depth videos on how to use this. Also with the mc6 pro etc.
Hi. It works the same way with the MC6 PRO.
Can it allow you switch between 2 amplifiers + sending "x" pedal to the amplifier of your choice?
Yes, you can use it as an amp selector. You can engage the amp you want and bypass the amp you don't want to use. The amps will take up 2 loops. You will still have 3 loops before that for pedals, which will be sent to whichever amp is active.
I have a doubt. Using the MIDI out, am I able to send CC and/or CH messages to a Revv G20, while being able to switch the pedals ?
Hi! Yes, you can control multiple MIDI devices simultaneously. We explain that this MIDI Basics video - ua-cam.com/video/JIzCEYvwt1M/v-deo.html
Full size midi jacks !!!!
Very cool - what about also using the MC6 to control midi able pedals? Is there a way to control all pedals on the board(midi and non midi pedals) from the MC6?
Hi. Yes, we explain it in these 2 videos: ua-cam.com/video/JIzCEYvwt1M/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/VVpT0IYUMwI/v-deo.html
Dear Sir.....I have the Hotone Ampero Control 4, MIDI switcher. Can I use my Hotone Ampero Control 4 to work with the ML5, instead of using yr Morningstar's MIDI switchers? Thank you 🙏
Hi. As long as the Ampero Control 4 can send PC messages, you can use it to recall loop combinations using the Learn feature on the ML5 as shown in the video. And as long as it can send the necessary CC messages to control individual loops, you can use it to engage/bypass individual loops as shown in this video too.
@@MorningstarEngineering Thank you sir, for yr prompt reply....🙏
Can this be controlled by the hx stomp or does it only work with morningstar controllers?
As long as the HX Stomp can send the required MIDI messages mentioned in the video, it will work.
The best
Thank you Morningstar
Is it possible to use one loop to switch channels on my amp and the others loop for pedals?
This is not a relay switcher. You will need our Relay interface to do that: www.morningstar.io/shop/Relay-Interface-p438174911
Would you continue your signal chain as normal with the ml5?
Yes, you would!
so, if I had a midi foot controller with PC and CC programming capabilities, would this be possible?
Switch 1 turns on and off loop 4 in the chain.
Switch 2 toggles between loop 2 and 3.
Switch 3 toggles loop 1 on and off ?
Hi. As long as your MIDI controller can send the required MIDI messages that will work. Check out the ML5 MIDI implementation in the manual here: manuals.morningstar.io/ml5/ml5-user-manual#ML5UserManual-MIDIImplementation
@@MorningstarEngineering Thank you very much!
What are those right angle MIDI connectors???
Hi. Those are Rockboard flat MIDI cables. Do bear in mind which direction your MIDI ports are pointing in before purchasing. Angled MIDI cables can obstruct adjacent ports, which can be undesirable.
Can i combine two ml5 together to have 10 loops?
Hi. Yes, you can MIDI chain as many as you need together. Setting each of them to different MIDI channels will give you individual control over every loop. You can also send PC messages to both ML5s to use learn mode like a 10 loop switcher.
Is the CC numbers for individual loops a new thing? I had no idea it was in there
Hi. It's been there since day one!
"Ml5 is set to channel one". How do you change what channel it's set for?
My question exactly. Did you ever find out how?
@EothaG i did, but i cant remember how exactly as itbwqs a year ago. But i remember i found the way how in the manual.
@@cvkballisticrhino1393 hey, thank you for replying back! I did find out from the manual. You unplug the power and then plug it back in while holding down button E. Then when the button starts blinking, you select ABC D or E. Each one of those is a midi number.
Can I use this with a stream deck??
The stream deck is made to control your computer and not other MIDI devices, so no it will not work.
@@MorningstarEngineering oooo just tot I tried it but surprisingly it worked with !! Loving the ML5. Should have gotten the 10 now that I think about it
@@TheSoundsOfSirens That's interesting. How did you connect the stream deck to ML5?
@@MorningstarEngineering I have the deck link to my computer and usb midi out from the computer to the ML5. It’s handy that the ML 5 has a thru out for my amp switcher so I can switch on and off my pedals and amps from my desk.
@@TheSoundsOfSirens Ah ok so you are running it through your computer and have a USB MIDI interface as well. That will work! I thought you wanted to control the ML5 directly with the stream deck.
Great!
Could you describe how to make presets both in ML5 and Strymons?
How can I program one stomp to engage A, B and E on ML5, Bank 00 Preset 01 on BigSky and Bank 10 Preset 02 on Timeline?
Hi. That is very easily done and we're happy to guide you. Please send us an email at ‘help@morningstarfx.com’. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily. Cheers!
@@ucielybarra7454 Yeah, it turned out being easy-peasy.
1 preset = 16 messages
1 message - to ML5
2 message - to Mobius
3 message - to Timeline
4 message - to BigSky
ML5 presets
0 - bypass all
1 - 1st loop
2 - 2 loop
3 - 1 + 2 loops
4 - 3 loop
5 - 3 + 1 loops
8 - 4 loop
9 - 4 + 1 loops
16 - 5 loop
etc.
Save in User Library all the needed PC Messages for the ML5 and voila!
@@ucielybarra7454 Learn feature is fancy, but leads to uncontrollable, implicit behaviour. Switching off/on by CC messages in a shitty idea. But Remembering and recording 5-10 PC messages with loop combinations you need is a game changer.
How can I use this in a stereo fx loop?
Probably can't, that would require twice as many sends and returns
So besides the ML5 you need to purchase the programmer too?
Hi. The Morningstar Editor software comes free with all our controllers. You can access it via Chrome browser (editor-mkii.morningstar.io/) or download the application.
If you’re referring to the other device shown in the video (MC6) to control ML5, yes you need to purchase that too. But by now you’ve probably figured that out!
Could I use two of these with an MC3 or MC6 to get 10 loops?
Hi. Yes, you can do that. The ML5s have MIDI in and thru ports so you can daisy chain as many as you need together. Setting each ML5 to a different MIDI channel will give you individual control over every loop. You can use learn mode and send a PC message to both ML5s so they will learn simultaneously.
@@MorningstarEngineering good to know.
I'm in the process now of doing loops and some midi functionality. Im a total noob. Its a lot to take in.
Is the audio signal path analog?
Hi. Yes it is
@@MorningstarEngineering 👍
Does it work with mc3?
Hi. Yes, it does. It works with any MIDI controller that can send PC and CC messages.
??? still confused.
Hi. What about? Please send us an email at help@morningstarfx.com. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily. Cheers!
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