Content like this from The Ringer is so refreshing to see a media company actually thinking outside the box instead of doing the same stuff that nearly every other sports media company. Only big things to come for this group and can't wait to see how they continue to grow.
Just to point it out the calculation of lebrons salary at 3:24 is completely wrong. If he made the same percentage of the teams salary as MJ, lebron would be making about 66 mil.
The people with the most money/power will always be the people with the most money/power. A bit of a microcosm of what the whole entire planet is like. Great work
@discoandherpes If you think Bernie, even if he won, could single handedly eliminate money in politics and socio-economic hierarchy, you're smoking some good shit bruh.
This video is honestly incredible. Super informative and creative and beautiful original animation. And to top it all off it's pro-labor! Thanks for this
I was hooked at the beginning of the video but I wasn't expecting that revelation at the end! Thank you for making quality content about basketball! 🙏🏼🏀
Great Work!!! This is exactly the kind of content that can really grow The Ringer's youtube clout. More stuff like this please! Not to say that the podcast visuals are not nice, but this is the stuff that will work in the future. Some of the best stuff I've seen in a while.
I've been saying this for years but obviously, no one listens to a "non-expert." So, thank you The Ringer, for a detailed, concise, and informative video! I couldn't have done a better job at it.
Brilliant. I don't know what the solution is though, as keeping the players moving also keeps the league exciting. This year's teams are more fun than ever with all the potential and the competitive level.
1:41 "and then" what "the reigning champions"? I can't understand what the line is. Can't be "led" because he only did that once in Toronto. Can't be "left" because the Spurs didn't win the year prior.
The Ringer has top level CGI. First it was CGI Jason Concepcion (he isn't even real, just a computer avatar...not unlike Max Headroom). Now this!? Love this content!
Boston did the “super team” thing first with KG, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. I don’t know why the accepted mentality is that Lebron, Bosh and Wade were the originals to do that. That Heat team was made in response to the Celtic’s big 3.
I've worked this out. The percentage isn't of the overall number. It's what percentage more one guy makes than the rest. Jordan's 33 is the same percentage more as his teammates combined in 98 as LeBrons would be than the rest of his teammates if he earned 101m
misleading af - LeBron would make $101m if you kept the other players salaries constant and increased the total team cap by ~$60m. if he made the same share of the team salary cap as Jordan as suggested (54%), he would make $65m. still twice as much as Jordan but not nearly $101m. yeah I'm fun at parties
@@lamambas9390 hahaha nah, that's kind of baked into how much the teams salary has grown to already to some extent (plus it would make LeBron and MJ figures closer not further apart) Simply put, look at the graphic. They are saying if LBJ earned the same percentage, so since overall salary cap has increased - both LeBron should make more than MJ, and LBJ teammates should make more than MJ teammates. MJ and team : 33+22 = $61m MJ % = 33/61 = 54% LBJ and Team : 37+86 = $123m 54% of $123 is $66.5m and the rest of the Lakers would make $56.5m
Nice video. If anyone thinks the solution is the European football method, that itself has the glaring problem of only rich teams winning the championship and while the NBA doesn't have a much parity as the other big 4 sports, it is still more balanced than say the Spanish league (la liga)
Love Tjarks' writing on The Ringer!! Great video production here too by the team. Totally agree, the supermax isn't working since it attaches a top 15-20 player who had an extraordinary season (John Wall) to their home team but isn't enough to entice a top 5-10 player to stay on their home team. Even Kemba didn't want to stay on the Hornets since that team was so poorly managed. Love the comparison to soccer with no salary cap as I think the NBA should go towards that direction in terms of player empowerment. We're far far far away from that but I'd just love to see what LeBron would command in the open market. He'd be signing 1 year $100 million dollar deals every year lol. Possible idea is to remove the max in general, and let the players negotiate what they think they're worth. Let LeBron get paid $60 million a year with the cap, and the Lakers only have about $50 million remaining to sign AD and the rest of the team, they wouldn't be able to afford it. It'd give more control to the players, but it'd also put the onus on them to take 'discounts' to play with each other, which realistically they wouldn't be able to afford to. The money would be too great. NBPA may never allow this though since money would go back into the star player's pockets, but idk that's how an economy works. Guess there's no easy solutions!
I didn't understand the part @3:35 about why players are happy having max contract limits. So just because they get a fixed percentage of the total BRI, they don't mind their contracts being up to $70m/year smaller than they would be with no cap? Why wouldn't someone like LeBron say, "well if the Lakers are willing to pay me $101 and cut my teammates' salaries to make that happen, why put a max contract in the way?" It seems like, at best, most players who aren't anywhere close to max contracts would be satisfied with their share of BRI while the players actually being capped by it would be upset.
Player empowerment is not a bug, it’s a feature. The league is run by the owners of large media market teams. The so-called player empowerment movement ensures that the large media markets have the best teams and the biggest stars get all of the most lucrative endorsements. The league acts like this is such a huge problem but everyone involved is getting exactly what they want.
Am I the only one that noticed when he “evened” The ratios for the Lebron and MJ salary example that the numbers are way off? MJ made 54% of the cap and Lebron is at 82% of the possible cap. Hell is the cap doubled how the “team funds” get less? That math doesn’t add up.
I'm pretty sure LeBron's time in Cleveland isn't the only reason the value of the Cavs went up so much, given Steve Ballmer buying the clips for 2B probably did much of the heavy lifting there (it served as an evaluation for an NBA team in the billions, so it would be reasonable to assume that it played an even larger part in the appreciation of the cavs).
In works in basketball because literally these superstars can take a minimum salary knowing that their sponsors can make them millions. Lebron for example can take the minimum salary knowing he has a lifetime contract with nike.
Great animation but there's a few problems the least of which is that Kawhi helped lead the Toronto Raptors to their first NBA title and then went home. Sounds like in video that you said "lead the reigning champions two consecutive years". Kawhi was in Toronto for only one year - though they did win the championship. So while the Toronto Raptors are reigning NBA champions - Kawhi was only there for one year.
Didn't Ballmer buying the Clippers for $2 billion end up skyrocketing the valuation of every other team? I'm sure Lebron's return boosted that above other teams like Minnesota or somewhere that haven't had nearly the success, but that Clippers purchased was nuts at the time and changed the entire landscape of purchasing NBA teams.
Content like this from The Ringer is so refreshing to see a media company actually thinking outside the box instead of doing the same stuff that nearly every other sports media company. Only big things to come for this group and can't wait to see how they continue to grow.
Salute to the animator (or animators) for a great job. This is a work of art!
This is absolutely incredible.
Was gonna say something similar but you really put it best
Agreed. This is so good.
Just to point it out the calculation of lebrons salary at 3:24 is completely wrong. If he made the same percentage of the teams salary as MJ, lebron would be making about 66 mil.
The 101M/22M half/half pie chart looks nice tho
The people with the most money/power will always be the people with the most money/power. A bit of a microcosm of what the whole entire planet is like. Great work
Not forever
We're coming for their top-hats
@discoandherpes If you think Bernie, even if he won, could single handedly eliminate money in politics and socio-economic hierarchy, you're smoking some good shit bruh.
Tjarks is the best. Protect him at all costs!
This video is honestly incredible. Super informative and creative and beautiful original animation. And to top it all off it's pro-labor! Thanks for this
Ringer been putting out such amazing content!!! Feels like I’m stealing
We need more of this series. Let’s get it
I was hooked at the beginning of the video but I wasn't expecting that revelation at the end! Thank you for making quality content about basketball! 🙏🏼🏀
This is absolutely FLAWLESS! Oh my God. Brilliant animation. Tjarks, major kudos!
Making Dallas proud, Jonathan. Great stuff.
I'm not a numbers guy so NBA contracts have always confused me. thanks for explaining this so clearly!
Great Work!!! This is exactly the kind of content that can really grow The Ringer's youtube clout. More stuff like this please! Not to say that the podcast visuals are not nice, but this is the stuff that will work in the future. Some of the best stuff I've seen in a while.
This video was so well done! I absolutely love what y’all are doing at The Ringer
Tjarks is great as always but I just wanna shout out the wonderful pixel animation in this video. Lots of love went into this and it shows
The production on this is sooooooo good. Great topic as well. Bill Simmons knows how to pick em I guess.
Such a great work from the Ringer! Keep it up guys!
Like this art style and music mix with the content. Thumbs up
Beside all saying 'more and more', let's take a moment of appreciation for an amazing content you guys at Ringer make. Great stuff!
Awesome graphics/effort. Thank you
I've been saying this for years but obviously, no one listens to a "non-expert." So, thank you The Ringer, for a detailed, concise, and informative video! I couldn't have done a better job at it.
Wow how well researched. As a real nba fan its cool to see.
this was amazing
Love the animations. Great video
Wow man, amazing video, hats off to you
Beautiful piece of work here!
Where can i play the game?
It looks like a game i would buy off stream.
Like NBA manager or something lol
This channel is greatly underrated. Art style, content, quality, uniqueness...
Very good use of Jon's talent. Good job guys
Good informative piece!
ngl, this is the coolest NBA video I've ever watched
i really like this format, please do more!
Such a good video. More of this please. Love these breakdowns that you all do.
maybe the coolest video i’ve ever watched
awesome video. stumbled upon it at 5:25 am
Great insight man, keep it up!
Brilliant. I don't know what the solution is though, as keeping the players moving also keeps the league exciting. This year's teams are more fun than ever with all the potential and the competitive level.
my goodness this is fantastic!
Please bring the Ringer PhD back
1:41 "and then" what "the reigning champions"? I can't understand what the line is. Can't be "led" because he only did that once in Toronto. Can't be "left" because the Spurs didn't win the year prior.
The Ringer has top level CGI.
First it was CGI Jason Concepcion (he isn't even real, just a computer avatar...not unlike Max Headroom).
Now this!?
Love this content!
Boston did the “super team” thing first with KG, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce. I don’t know why the accepted mentality is that Lebron, Bosh and Wade were the originals to do that. That Heat team was made in response to the Celtic’s big 3.
Great video
Weren't the Celtics with Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and Kevin Garnett a super team?
coolest video ya'll even done did.
Really good
Im very confused by his math....how does 54% of 123 equal 101? Did he just ad on the ad revenue without telling us?
I'm confused here too.
lol it doesn’t make any sense at all
I've worked this out. The percentage isn't of the overall number. It's what percentage more one guy makes than the rest. Jordan's 33 is the same percentage more as his teammates combined in 98 as LeBrons would be than the rest of his teammates if he earned 101m
samy2k10 Yeah the animators screwed up by changing the teammates value from 86 to 22. If they kept it as 86 it would’ve made sense.
misleading af - LeBron would make $101m if you kept the other players salaries constant and increased the total team cap by ~$60m. if he made the same share of the team salary cap as Jordan as suggested (54%), he would make $65m. still twice as much as Jordan but not nearly $101m. yeah I'm fun at parties
Amazing Content.
Well done!
let's just appreciate how beautiful this video is
The maths on the LeBron-MJ comparison is wrong.
LeBron would make $66.5m (54% of the total team salary).
Did you take inflation into account?
@@lamambas9390 hahaha nah, that's kind of baked into how much the teams salary has grown to already to some extent (plus it would make LeBron and MJ figures closer not further apart)
Simply put, look at the graphic. They are saying if LBJ earned the same percentage, so since overall salary cap has increased - both LeBron should make more than MJ, and LBJ teammates should make more than MJ teammates.
MJ and team : 33+22 = $61m
MJ % = 33/61 = 54%
LBJ and Team : 37+86 = $123m
54% of $123 is $66.5m
and the rest of the Lakers would make $56.5m
Yeah I noticed this too, seems like a glaring error
Voltaire I know right. Ringer PhD, this ain’t even Ringer SAT ammmm I right?!?
@@xhoneymanx Exactly. How did this not get caught? Or am I missing something?
This is so good.
this was so dope
Awesome video!!!!
"we can't be giving you niggas t o o much money"
- every owner in america ever
7:44 isn't it the Dean from community?
Dean-aling-aling!
Nice video.
If anyone thinks the solution is the European football method, that itself has the glaring problem of only rich teams winning the championship and while the NBA doesn't have a much parity as the other big 4 sports, it is still more balanced than say the Spanish league (la liga)
Yo does anyone know the song name or the artist who made the song that was during the intro graphic? It's dope. Thanks!!
Wow, amazing graphics
The Ringer is the real Super Team!
Love Tjarks' writing on The Ringer!! Great video production here too by the team.
Totally agree, the supermax isn't working since it attaches a top 15-20 player who had an extraordinary season (John Wall) to their home team but isn't enough to entice a top 5-10 player to stay on their home team. Even Kemba didn't want to stay on the Hornets since that team was so poorly managed.
Love the comparison to soccer with no salary cap as I think the NBA should go towards that direction in terms of player empowerment. We're far far far away from that but I'd just love to see what LeBron would command in the open market. He'd be signing 1 year $100 million dollar deals every year lol.
Possible idea is to remove the max in general, and let the players negotiate what they think they're worth. Let LeBron get paid $60 million a year with the cap, and the Lakers only have about $50 million remaining to sign AD and the rest of the team, they wouldn't be able to afford it.
It'd give more control to the players, but it'd also put the onus on them to take 'discounts' to play with each other, which realistically they wouldn't be able to afford to. The money would be too great. NBPA may never allow this though since money would go back into the star player's pockets, but idk that's how an economy works. Guess there's no easy solutions!
Imagine if an NBA owner entered into a business venture where someone told them their profits would be capped.
What a content 💯
GODLY VIDEO
Good content but I really can't understand the voiceover at times.
Love the art.
I didn't understand the part @3:35 about why players are happy having max contract limits. So just because they get a fixed percentage of the total BRI, they don't mind their contracts being up to $70m/year smaller than they would be with no cap? Why wouldn't someone like LeBron say, "well if the Lakers are willing to pay me $101 and cut my teammates' salaries to make that happen, why put a max contract in the way?" It seems like, at best, most players who aren't anywhere close to max contracts would be satisfied with their share of BRI while the players actually being capped by it would be upset.
Player empowerment is not a bug, it’s a feature.
The league is run by the owners of large media market teams. The so-called player empowerment movement ensures that the large media markets have the best teams and the biggest stars get all of the most lucrative endorsements.
The league acts like this is such a huge problem but everyone involved is getting exactly what they want.
CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE ART STYLE :O
Content like this justifies the need for many wokers.
Instand by ringer union
robbietitus indeed
Am I the only one that noticed when he “evened” The ratios for the Lebron and MJ salary example that the numbers are way off? MJ made 54% of the cap and Lebron is at 82% of the possible cap. Hell is the cap doubled how the “team funds” get less? That math doesn’t add up.
Josh Eshelman bro what are u talking abou
I lllooooovvveee these!!!!
WHAT IT DO, BABY
I love this
" Its the only argument I need Sean"!!!
What movie?
The cav's owner shoulda sold the team while he still had LBJ. No way they're worth over a billion today.
Imagine 2021 kd kyrie and harden💀
At 1:51 Oklahoma is so far down south
How is Jordan’s salary of 33/61 million the same percentage as lebrons 101/123 million wtf kind of math is that?
I agree that the players still have far less power than their owners, but I think this is the most power NBA players have had.
Damn. Great fucking video. The Ringer is the best (No Dunks is up there too though ;) )
Bravo
7:33 you're saying the wolves need more hlp? How many more #1 draft picks and stars do they need lol
1:42 what is he saying here?
I'm pretty sure LeBron's time in Cleveland isn't the only reason the value of the Cavs went up so much, given Steve Ballmer buying the clips for 2B probably did much of the heavy lifting there (it served as an evaluation for an NBA team in the billions, so it would be reasonable to assume that it played an even larger part in the appreciation of the cavs).
Jimmy Butler to miami too
In works in basketball because literally these superstars can take a minimum salary knowing that their sponsors can make them millions.
Lebron for example can take the minimum salary knowing he has a lifetime contract with nike.
another classic
Who else is here after both examples of players who signed a supermax to stay were traded?
Great animation but there's a few problems the least of which is that Kawhi helped lead the Toronto Raptors to their first NBA title and then went home. Sounds like in video that you said "lead the reigning champions two consecutive years". Kawhi was in Toronto for only one year - though they did win the championship. So while the Toronto Raptors are reigning NBA champions - Kawhi was only there for one year.
3:30 wtf is this Lakers pie chart?
The super max contract can now be classified as a failure. It simply does not work.
Great video but the narrator slurs his words too much
I want to play that game
Didn't Ballmer buying the Clippers for $2 billion end up skyrocketing the valuation of every other team? I'm sure Lebron's return boosted that above other teams like Minnesota or somewhere that haven't had nearly the success, but that Clippers purchased was nuts at the time and changed the entire landscape of purchasing NBA teams.
What about the Boston Celtics in 2010-2011
I believe it begins with the big 5 in Boston and LBJ just basically copies that to a lesser extent.
sick
Klay not getting the supermax wass ridiculous.