Is there a downside to putting an AVC or HEVC decoder chip in there and just use the GPU encoder or a streaming app in ultrafast lossless mode? Even tuned for zero latency, should be the same visual quality at a much lower bitrate.
@@theendurance Do you realize every movie and its audio is lossy encoded? How bad is the best looking video you watched on this platform? Just give every display NIC hardware and a media decoder chip. If it's UHD or better, a four core CPU of the latest gen for whatever the decoder doesn't support; it will likely have a decoder ASIC built in.
@@benchedballergames5621 nothing i believe its because 10bit doesnt support 240 and 2k at the same time i dont know it works awesome if i put 144hz instead of 240 but i will never do that once i got used to 240hz lower than that is just too laggy for me
@@Goku20203134 so I worked out that it's the display port and how having 10bit and 240hz is too much bandwidth for the cable to handle, so the only way to have both on is with DSC? But I can't find any info on how to turn it on lmao
I tried a G8 with 4k 240hz and I was shocked how bad 240hz looked in comparisson to my PG279QM with also 240hz. It doesn' t look smooth, I tried every settings but it didn't improve. Then i started thinking: How is this even possible 4k and 240hz, I have a 4090 wit dp1.4, so only 32,4gbit/s is possible, but 4k 10bit 240hz need around 60gbit/s then I found out about DSC. They are cheating to get "240hz" but it's not real 240hz. I don't care if people say it is lossless and you can't tell the difference to non-DSC, probably these are the same people who said the human eye can't see more then 24fps. Maybe DSC is working when you have to save up to 20% in bandwidth but definitelly not if you have to double the bandwidth
I’m looking into the asus pg27aqn which is 1440p 360hz 8bit, will I get similar issues with a dp1.4 x 3090? should I wait for more hdmi 2.1 monitors so say fuck all and wait till nvidia release dp2.1 on their products? I’m using a Samsung g7 1440p 240hz but I also use the 10bit while enables dsc but I can switch to 8bit and turn dsc off, correct??? is compression worse with 1440 and 360 then with 4K 240 10bit??? Please any help would be appreciated! I’m looking for a new display under $1500. Mini led is soon to release on a 32” 1440p 300hz but that will also need higher gbit/s…correct? the 3090 only supports up2 dp1.4 and hdmi 2.1 so I’m very limited with this card even 40XX series do not have dp2.1 only AMD 60XX. I’m contemplating going with 0.1gtg Oled 1440 175hz 35” Ultrawide while using a dp1.4/hdmi 2.X
@@nc33228 2540x1440p 240hz 10Bit needs : 26.37gbit/s, so dp1.4 is good enough. I think the more you have to compress the bandwith the worse. I got the ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG42UQ yesterday and its amazing, It supports up to 138hz with DSC and 120hz without it. It feels more smooth then the G8 with 240hz and image quality is also way superior. I wouldn't go for 1440p 360hz even though dp1.4 would be fast enough if you choose 8bit, because I just found out that OLED looks with 100fps less still better. And another benefit is, 60fps feels also a lot smoother, so this monitor is not only good for gaming, it is also nice for youtube. The next upgrade for me will be maybe a oled (or micro LED if possible) 4k with 240hz, but only with dp2.1 and a 50xx GPU. Regarding your Oled 1440 175hz 35” Ultrawide, I think this is also a very good monitor. I read about that the pixel matrix is different to LGs OLED and text clearity is not that good, but I think the pros of this panel prevail the cons.
@@Bigburgy paired with my 3090 x10850k I main competitive fps games so using a older TN and g7 isn’t the best for latency, oled has a 0.1ms color to color response time so that amazing but for competitive fps that doesn’t matter as much but it DOES look smoother, oled 144hz >old ips 240hz… BUT the new asus ips tech is very very good input latency. I will buy oled when 50 series is released and hardware will support dp2.1 @ 80bit/s so that can truly get oled 4K 175-200hz
@@Bigburgy while you used the 240hz did you push 240 frames per second to take advantage? A fast 240ips vs oled 120hz is a very close but I’d still choose ips and wait for oled to drop in price while waiting for more hardware to support a higher bandwitdth
DSC is a joke and an outright scam/fraud to be honest, given the fact that there isn't a way to disable it or even check if it is active. Even if you set your resolution and refresh rate within spec for the corresponding DP / HDMI version, it may actually kick in because of a shitty plug or cable for example and there's no way of knowing. The manufacturer of the source or sink may also have skipped on complying to the full bandwidth specification because it requires specific pricey chips and firmware. It's up to the consumer to troubleshoot and maybe realize he's been screwed over.
2019 LG C9 or 2020 LG CX is the way to go. OLED, 4K with a native 120Hz panel in HDR with Chroma 4:4:4, G-Sync COMPATIBLE (not the same as G-Sync Ultimate), full HDMI 2.1 ports (sadly no DisplayPort whatsoever). If you don't play the same game for 20 hours per day every day, you shouldn't get any burn-in whatsoever. If anything, you can try disabling your HUD or making it more transparent if possible to lower the risk of burn-in. P.s. I think Best Buy offers warranty that covers Burn-in.
you can also just get extended warranty via squaretrade and get the tv replaced for much cheaper than the best buy warranty burn in lg also covers burn in under the warranty so getting an extended warranty via lg is also an option.
In Saudi the c9 and b9 was like 700 dollars but it was at the back of the store and know one wanted it because the manager would just tell the everybody asking for the best tv that the best of the best tv where at the front, and I was very confused why some sort of tv was in the front of the store not even an oled or a qled tv, and me being an intellectual child I searched for the best tv, I was looking for the lg oled series specifically c9 or b9, I was shocked it was on sale and was like 700 dollars I was very happy This is the day I saved my parents from being scammed by the Indian manager(disclaimer the tv’s on the front were like not even sale they were around 15% to 25%and the tv on the back din’t even have a sale sticker and in there website they din’t even say the oled tv where on sale)so it was a win win for me and a lose lose for them
@@BUDA20 the thing is, DSC is not lossless. They call it "visually" lossless, witch means that 80% of people don't see a difference, but maybe 20% can. Also, in certain cases and visuals, the performance will suffer and we will see visual degradation, unfortunately.
Only with such gimmicks like DSC can a manufacturer claim "our device outputs 16K at 480Hz" and you're still left wondering if the connection's bandwidth will even reach DisplayPort 1.4 levels before actually buying a bunch of expensive crap with potato picture quality.
the voice over sounded like it came straight out of fiverr lmao
Thank you for the word „lossless“ I can now sleep easy
Wallet is in pandemic 😞😞
Sound and looks like an ad from the 80's
At least someone brought 144 hz at 4 k keep it up rog
Best of luck
LG CX 48" OLED for me...
Is there a downside to putting an AVC or HEVC decoder chip in there and just use the GPU encoder or a streaming app in ultrafast lossless mode? Even tuned for zero latency, should be the same visual quality at a much lower bitrate.
maybe delay is much bigger. dcs is 0.5 microsecond, if im not mistaken
@@anonanon3134 It would matter only for certain games which any more delay can't be compensated for. For media playback, few would notice.
@@uncrunch398 indeed
that would cost way more and look much worse lol
@@theendurance Do you realize every movie and its audio is lossy encoded? How bad is the best looking video you watched on this platform? Just give every display NIC hardware and a media decoder chip. If it's UHD or better, a four core CPU of the latest gen for whatever the decoder doesn't support; it will likely have a decoder ASIC built in.
I just want an 100% aRGB 144hz laptop panel.
Hopefully next model you fix the horrible ghosting problem the PG43UQ has.
does my rtx 3070 has dsc support? i have issues running my g7 monitor to 10bit at 240hz 1440p i do run it but monitor blinks a lot
same man in the exact same position as you ;(, you found any ways to fix this?
@@benchedballergames5621 nothing i believe its because 10bit doesnt support 240 and 2k at the same time i dont know it works awesome if i put 144hz instead of 240 but i will never do that once i got used to 240hz lower than that is just too laggy for me
@@Goku20203134 so I worked out that it's the display port and how having 10bit and 240hz is too much bandwidth for the cable to handle, so the only way to have both on is with DSC? But I can't find any info on how to turn it on lmao
@@Goku20203134 oh wait you've probably come to that conclusion as well if you're looking at a video on DSC lmaoooo 😂
@@benchedballergames5621 do u even turn it on? or its on
Do you want me to do the product review or something ?
Its very weird how this video is 0:59 long and not 1 minute long🤔😂
DSC on = more processing time for decompression = more input lag
I tried a G8 with 4k 240hz and I was shocked how bad 240hz looked in comparisson to my PG279QM with also 240hz.
It doesn' t look smooth, I tried every settings but it didn't improve. Then i started thinking: How is this even possible 4k and 240hz, I have a 4090 wit dp1.4, so only 32,4gbit/s is possible, but 4k 10bit 240hz need around 60gbit/s then I found out about DSC.
They are cheating to get "240hz" but it's not real 240hz.
I don't care if people say it is lossless and you can't tell the difference to non-DSC, probably these are the same people who said the human eye can't see more then 24fps.
Maybe DSC is working when you have to save up to 20% in bandwidth but definitelly not if you have to double the bandwidth
I’m looking into the asus pg27aqn which is 1440p 360hz 8bit, will I get similar issues with a dp1.4 x 3090? should I wait for more hdmi 2.1 monitors so say fuck all and wait till nvidia release dp2.1 on their products? I’m using a Samsung g7 1440p 240hz but I also use the 10bit while enables dsc but I can switch to 8bit and turn dsc off, correct??? is compression worse with 1440 and 360 then with 4K 240 10bit??? Please any help would be appreciated! I’m looking for a new display under $1500. Mini led is soon to release on a 32” 1440p 300hz but that will also need higher gbit/s…correct? the 3090 only supports up2 dp1.4 and hdmi 2.1 so I’m very limited with this card even 40XX series do not have dp2.1 only AMD 60XX. I’m contemplating going with 0.1gtg Oled 1440 175hz 35” Ultrawide while using a dp1.4/hdmi 2.X
@@nc33228 2540x1440p 240hz 10Bit needs : 26.37gbit/s, so dp1.4 is good enough. I think the more you have to compress the bandwith the worse.
I got the ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG42UQ yesterday and its amazing, It supports up to 138hz with DSC and 120hz without it. It feels more smooth then the G8 with 240hz and image quality is also way superior. I wouldn't go for 1440p 360hz even though dp1.4 would be fast enough if you choose 8bit, because I just found out that OLED looks with 100fps less still better. And another benefit is, 60fps feels also a lot smoother, so this monitor is not only good for gaming, it is also nice for youtube.
The next upgrade for me will be maybe a oled (or micro LED if possible) 4k with 240hz, but only with dp2.1 and a 50xx GPU.
Regarding your Oled 1440 175hz 35” Ultrawide, I think this is also a very good monitor. I read about that the pixel matrix is different to LGs OLED and text clearity is not that good, but I think the pros of this panel prevail the cons.
@@Bigburgy paired with my 3090 x10850k I main competitive fps games so using a older TN and g7 isn’t the best for latency, oled has a 0.1ms color to color response time so that amazing but for competitive fps that doesn’t matter as much but it DOES look smoother, oled 144hz >old ips 240hz… BUT the new asus ips tech is very very good input latency. I will buy oled when 50 series is released and hardware will support dp2.1 @ 80bit/s so that can truly get oled 4K 175-200hz
@@Bigburgy while you used the 240hz did you push 240 frames per second to take advantage? A fast 240ips vs oled 120hz is a very close but I’d still choose ips and wait for oled to drop in price while waiting for more hardware to support a higher bandwitdth
DSC is a joke and an outright scam/fraud to be honest, given the fact that there isn't a way to disable it or even check if it is active. Even if you set your resolution and refresh rate within spec for the corresponding DP / HDMI version, it may actually kick in because of a shitty plug or cable for example and there's no way of knowing. The manufacturer of the source or sink may also have skipped on complying to the full bandwidth specification because it requires specific pricey chips and firmware. It's up to the consumer to troubleshoot and maybe realize he's been screwed over.
2019 LG C9 or 2020 LG CX is the way to go. OLED, 4K with a native 120Hz panel in HDR with Chroma 4:4:4, G-Sync COMPATIBLE (not the same as G-Sync Ultimate), full HDMI 2.1 ports (sadly no DisplayPort whatsoever). If you don't play the same game for 20 hours per day every day, you shouldn't get any burn-in whatsoever. If anything, you can try disabling your HUD or making it more transparent if possible to lower the risk of burn-in.
P.s. I think Best Buy offers warranty that covers Burn-in.
Lmao look at those prices, no thanks. And what is the respone time there? I'll take LG 27GN950 for £750.
you can also just get extended warranty via squaretrade and get the tv replaced for much cheaper than the best buy warranty burn in lg also covers burn in under the warranty so getting an extended warranty via lg is also an option.
In Saudi the c9 and b9 was like 700 dollars but it was at the back of the store and know one wanted it because the manager would just tell the everybody asking for the best tv that the best of the best tv where at the front, and I was very confused why some sort of tv was in the front of the store not even an oled or a qled tv, and me being an intellectual child I searched for the best tv, I was looking for the lg oled series specifically c9 or b9, I was shocked it was on sale and was like 700 dollars I was very happy
This is the day I saved my parents from being scammed by the Indian manager(disclaimer the tv’s on the front were like not even sale they were around 15% to 25%and the tv on the back din’t even have a sale sticker and in there website they din’t even say the oled tv where on sale)so it was a win win for me and a lose lose for them
We yet to experienced burn in on our tv
@@AVerySillySausage Haha. LG OLED TV's destroy gaming monitors in terms of response times. OLED has way faster pixel transistioning than LCD.
Can we get a 25" or 24" in at least 1440p 240hz 1ms, at least for serious competitive fps gamers
Yep Omen has it
Not 24 inch tho
Shuichi Can't be bothered is it 25?
presto1 Lenovo and omen have it but 1440p is just flat out useless at 25 inches ( they’re both 27 inch TN panels btw )
1440p 165hz IPS is a great option unless your system can handle more then that in games you play
You better make laptops with that display
so without DSC it would require DP 2.0 for the same performance/Quality, correct me if I'm wrong though
but at a higher cost, I think using raw data is a waste at this point (as long as is lossless)
@@BUDA20 the thing is, DSC is not lossless. They call it "visually" lossless, witch means that 80% of people don't see a difference, but maybe 20% can.
Also, in certain cases and visuals, the performance will suffer and we will see visual degradation, unfortunately.
Well, time to replace kidneys with RTX Titans I guess
I want ROG phone 3
Ayyyyy my LG ultragear 45inch ultra wide 240hz gaming monitor has 1.4(DSC) always wondered what that was. Its the Lg 45GR95QE
Does anyone know if monitors that support this have to have a built-in module? Or is this something you can just activate through windows?
Wow this is good and i will own this soon
OOOOOR u wait for hdmi 2.1 sure it only goes up to 120 but thats the sweet spot anyway if ure running 4k unless u playing cs or lol...
waw, how much will it fair though.
I really thought this was an anime for a sec after watching a whole 2 season of an anime
Give me link
When is the rog 3 coming out so i can buy rog2 for a cheaper price 🤣
Bruh plz make the 4K90hz budget display even 1440p pixel density aint enuf
Looks cool nice ad
8k 120hz when?
Probably never. And I'm glad.
@@Grobyck it will happen but not In a while from now
I'd love an Asus monitor, but I don't have money, or a gpu that can keep up with one of their monitors
Awesome
❤️
oh shit my kidney
great😍👍
it better be a 32 incher
144mhz ? now ? come on make more than 200mhz already
It's 4K
Only with such gimmicks like DSC can a manufacturer claim "our device outputs 16K at 480Hz" and you're still left wondering if the connection's bandwidth will even reach DisplayPort 1.4 levels before actually buying a bunch of expensive crap with potato picture quality.
27" is to big for fps games
Lossless haha false advertising lmfao
I hope i can buy pc lol i just got rog laptop
Yes what specs I need for 4k 144hz ultra?? 😂😂
10x rtx 2080Ti super mega founders gold collectors boost edition all overclocked to 6969 mhz
Just wait till september when RDNA 2.0 and RTX 3000 Launches they'll be capable of running 4k 144hz hopefully
@@deandeeb2805 hmm I am not gonna wait and buy rtx 2080 now
hm If only I could afford anything ROG
Не чо не понел
is that an april fool ?
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