Oh and Dave, nice video editing and attention to detail - I appreciate paying attention to giving enough time for viewers to actually be able to read the hard coded text without having to rewind and pause the video, yet not having it on screen for too long where it becomes annoying. Keep up the good work.
I've had this monitor for 2 weeks. I work in Logic Pro 80% of the time. It's a great upgrade from my 1440 LG 34". I'm able to use it at it's native 5120x2160. Sharp, perfect size for music production.Highly recommend it!
2:07 "I was part of the NT GUI team that was responsible for adding multiple monitor support" Dude, are there any of the good features in Windows that you're _not_ responsible for?! It seems if you pick any of the things that Windows has nailed from a useability perspective, it's got davepl's name all over it!
I gotta multimonitor support on windows is something that drives me crazy to this day. Which monitor number gets assigned to which monitor seems to be a nondeterministic mess.
Welcome to the club :) I have U4021QW for about a year now and LOVE it. Best investment and no back problems from twisting my body for looking on multiple monitors.
Aayyy! We're nitpicky but rightfully so! 😂 A lot of ultrawides lack adequate brightness so if you work next to a bright window, the screen can look dim. As an interface designer, accurate color and brightness is crucial because my whites look more like light gray... And think about how much whites and grays are our any app or website. It's a big issue if I can't tell them apart. 💀 Plus, I'm paying for these big windows for a reason. If I have to close my blinds and work in a dark room just to work effectively, it defeats the purpose. I might as well just live in a cave lol
The NECs were sweet. I remember as a teen saving up from my summer jobs to buy a P750 and it trounced everything my friends had. NEC customer service was awesome as well. One time I had a later model exchanged for bad geometry even the service menu couldn't fix and they literally sent a courier (from Germany to The Netherlands, mind you) to pick it up and deliver a new one the next day, no questions asked. Their digital CRT projectors were superb as well, I continued using my XG-110LC well into the 2000s. Being loyal to the brand I also tried their first LCD monitors but they were pretty bland and I sadly moved on.
I still have a NEC 20" WGX2 lying around in my basement, which was a pretty good 16:10 IPS lcd monitor. But it was hard to get at the time (in the Netherlands) and relatively expensive.
Nec Monitors were quite good as long as they did not break down. Their printers were terrible and their support was lies and non existent. I managed a large IBM PC reseller service section in Sydney Australia in the mid to late 1980s and some NEC products were part of the sales offering. We had broken NEC equipment on every self in the building, all under warranty waiting parts. Nearly all printers and nearly all with the same fault. Broken paper feed knobs. Could we get spares. No. They were always "on the way" and "being produced now" as NEC Japan had not made any as spare parts. We stopped selling them. Nec was supposedly a very profitable going ahead company, yes, because it had no post sale support and warranty costs. But NEC disappeared from the market sometime after. This was not limited to NEC several Japanese companies had no post sales support. Unlike the US and European manufactures who had recommended lists of spares that should be carried depending on sales volumes and market penetration.
The monitor that I really wanted back in early 1994 was the Sony 17" trinitron. Unfortunately my parents were with me at the store. Dad freaked out that I was going to spend $1,200 (or so) on a new 17" monitor. I ended up leaving the Fry's with a NEC 4FGe 15" monitor. It was adequate. But certainly not worth saving that $500 delta. The 4FGE claimed to be 15", but it was really more like 13.7" as I recall.
I had Mitsubishi 750SB. No LCD can offer picture quality any close. But it was only 17"... So it had to go in april 2009, when was replaced by 1080p Samsung P2370. Since 2016 it's 4K LG 27".
- [00:00] 🖥 Dave introduces the Dell Ultrasharp U425WQ, a 40-inch curved 5K1 120 HDR monitor, highlighting its features and his monitor preferences over the years. - [05:29] 🔄 Dave reminisces about his experience with multiple monitors at Microsoft, highlighting his early adoption and preference for larger displays for debugging and productivity. - [09:19] 💻 Dave recalls his history with different types of monitors, from CRTs to LCDs, emphasizing his preference for larger displays for both work and home setups. - [12:27] 🖼 Dave discusses his transition to a curved monitor with the Dell U3415W, detailing its features and his positive experience. - [16:20] 🛠 Dave explains his upgrade to the Dell Ultrasharp 3818DW, highlighting its features, including the three-input KVM switch, and his satisfaction with its performance. - [23:29] 🖥 Dave introduces the Dell Ultrasharp 40-inch monitor, detailing its specs, features, and his excitement to test it out, emphasizing its 5K resolution, 120 Hz refresh rate, and KVM support. - [29:56] 🎮 Dave discusses the gaming capabilities of the Dell Ultrasharp 40-inch monitor, mentioning its response time and compatibility with both PC and Mac setups. - [33:50] ⚙ Dave shares his experience with the monitor's setup process, including connectivity options, software features like Dell's Display Manager, and scaling considerations for high-DPI displays.
"The holy grail" ? I remember when the "pizza box" Sun workstations came with 20" black and white CRTs. That was the holy grail back then. 1 MB of RAM and a 100 MB SCSI hard drive ! That was heaven. Everything has been gravy since then.
Dam, I can remember humping one of those around to give demonstrations to customers. We had padded bags for all the individual components, but the monitor was a two-man lift.
@@davidclift5989 Yeah Sun was all proud of how small their computer was and then there was the huge monitor that went with it. It was very good for its time though. It gave the user enough screen real estate to view the analog clock beside a code window. LOL. Way nicer than a 13 or 15" CRT.
Synergy is for continuous experience for two different systems with single mouse/keyboard and clipboard sharing. Bought out by Logitech iirc. People say it works, but haven't tried it. So it may be the one for the OP to try out. There's also lots of various software for one-system multimon setups. Display Fusion, Actual multiple monitors, etc. the latter having lots of options including which window opens where, grid setups, hotkeys, etc. I can imagine two of those dell monsters one-above-the-other :)
OMG Dave you just made me flashback to the 90s...I had the same NEC Multisync display. I even got to take it home, to power my home PC. As to two of those monitors I know that trading floors will use them, but not side by side. They will be stacked on top of the other. Love all your gear in the background. You are making me want to pull out my original Apple I that is signed by Jobs and Woz!
On the Mac, in HiDPI resolutions, you're actually driving the monitor at 2x the resolution you select. So 2560x1440 is actually driven at 5k; 3840x2160 at 8k, etc. If you use SwitchResX you can see the difference between 3840x2160 1:1 and 3840x2160 HiDPI mode (8k). Since there's no anti-aliasing anymore in MacOS, it makes a big difference.
13:30 As the owner of a Samsung Odyssey G9 OLED 49" 32:9 widescreen, I can relate to the feeling. The embedded software on this thing is terrible! Way too complex when all you want to do is switch inputs or maybe go to split view mode. And as soon as you unplug a device, it forgets all the settings and you have to reset everything! On the other hand, the display itself is beyond words, truly amazing. So it's sorta worth it!
I was running dual monitors in a DOS environment for debugging with Borland C++ and also with Clipper 5.x in the early 1990's. It was possible to have a VGA monochrome card and an ATI VGA Wonder in the same machine as they used separate memory addresses. If "memory" serves me you could run the monochrome VGA card at either B000 or B800. This configuration allowed you to have the app you were debugging on the color screen and the debugger running on the monochrome. Or you could do it the other way around and have the debugger on the color monitor and the application running on the monochrome. It was a much better environment for debugging a Small Grroup Insurance Proposal System with many complexities of different rules by state which drove product availability and rating. There was a presentation layer, a product availability module, and a rating engine that was used both for quoting new business and also used renewal rate calculations.
Yes, you remember correctly! I was running both a monochrome and color display, both in graphics mode, so I could more quickly make sure my (custom!) graphics code worked on both. It was painful to give up the monochrome display, but I eventually did to support 800x600 VGA, which required the full 64k address space (both 0xB0000 and 0xB8000). Well, actually, I temporarily gave it up so I could double-buffer my graphics… For me, the most impressive thing about W95 was its ability to _virtualize_ my double-buffered VGA code in a 640x350 window on a 1024x768 desktop, with the CPU utilization at less than 30% on a 33 MHz 486. (!!!) Of course, it sucked so much in so many other ways, I’ve been a Linux user since ‘96, but hey, I give credit where it’s due.
@@andynn6691 It was a Insurance quoting system written in Clipper 5.x ( a compiled version of dBase) There were modules for product availability and a rating engine. The front end was Clipper 5.x with console/io functions that we wrote in C. We also used a CAS 2.0 fax library so that our agents could fax quotes directly to clients. We were using Blinker for compiling and linking. The data was stored in dBase .dbf files using the foxpro .cdx indexes as they performed better. The software was distributed to insurance agents around the country on 3½ and 5¼ disks that we created on our own disk duplication machines and mailed out. Not bad for the early 1990's 🙂
Same here on and 286 with a VGA card and old monochrome card, does anyone remember control keys to switch back and forth between monitors, it’s not important but it just bothers me I can’t remember it.
I had a couple of those NEC CRT's back when I worked for the oil company. They lent me one for home that they never asked for back and I used for a while after they were merged I was surplused. I am still using my Dell Ultrasharp from 2008 though not as my primary monitor it has been an incredible work horse and well worth what was a premium at the time but it wasn't curved and now I don't think I could go back to a flat monitor for my primary
Back in the days as a Tech support I used to come across employees using their tube monitor which was capable of around 75 hz. Problem was it was set to 30ish hz... They didn't notice the flickering. I was wondering how many headaches they had each days. So I quickly fixed that display setting. They never complained about the horrible flickering.. Just amazed me as I could spot wrong display settings from a mile away. This new monitor your are test driving is just incredibly awesome.. I would love to get my hands on it.. But for you to take advantage of it I guess I would also need to get an RTX 4090.. that is looking at a total of € 4500,= at local prices here (NL)..... Guess I'll have to wait and keep using my Dell curved S3220DGF which is pretty good..
I had an ingenious Frankenbuild in 1987: A MacPlus, modded with an SE motherboard, an internal SCSI harddisk and a PC PSU and a fan, partly hiding behind an E-Machines "The Big Picture", a 1024 x 768 17" display with a slow phosphor, that had an asymmetric back so that the Mac just showed enough so you could access the Floppy drive. Word 4 was king for years on the Mac. An amazing step up from WordPerfect 5.1. Sadly no longer have it :-( Around 2001, I upgraded my Apple 13" Trinitron (gorgeous) to a Sun 17 inch LCD that lasted for many years. That was a rock solid display.
Mac's are optimised for ~109 ppi, not the ~96 mentioned, that said, 96 ppi will give you relatively 'clean' text, albeit slightly more pixelated than it would be at 109 ppi. Eg., an 5k Apple 27" (5120x2880) is natively 218 ppi for which the default scaling shows as 109ppi. This is the same with the Pro Display XDR 32" at 6016 x3384 is natively 218 ppi. The older Apple 27" Thunderbolt display is 2880x1440, natively 109ppi, which still displays very good text right down to 8 - 9 pt.. Bottom line: if seeking to use a non Apple monitor with a mac without resorting to custom resolution(s) via thrid party software best (text clarity) results are achieved with a monitor that has a native resolution of ~109 ppi or, for 'Retina' quality, one scaledable by a factor of 2, ie., ~218 ppi. Rough and ready guide for native viewing on wide to ultrawide monitors (16:9, 21:9, 32:9): - 5120x1440 is best on a 48-49", 3840x1600 is best viewed on a 43-45", 3440x1440 is best ~38" & 2880x1440 at 27", 2240x1260 for 24" and 1920x1080 at ~21". For 'Retina' viewing on wide-screen (16:9), look for: - 6016x3384 (6K) at ~32", 5120x2880 (5K) at ~27", 4480-x2520 (4.5k) at ~24" & 4096x2304 (4K) at ~21.5" pete.
Love the history and review of this, I equally am super excited about this release! I also just bought and read your book and it was profoundly helpful in understanding certain parts of myself, for which I thank you greatly. ♥
broken kit was a valuable commodity in the 90’s for me because we had a way of getting it swapped for brand new kit - the same piece of broken kit may go through the system more than once each time providing a new bit of kit
I got a gen 2 odyssey ark in early december and can say its a pretty serious screen, i dont edit videos so cant comment on color accuracy but it is massive and really immersive, tons of features i wont utilize but the multi screen is sweet@@lucasrem
I've always been a fan of the Apple/Dell 16 by 10 monitors -- the Apple 30'' Cinema Display is still one of my favorite monitors -- especially the later upgraded ones. The fact that Dell still makes a variant of these just goes to show how good these monitors were for the time. These monitors are approaching 20 years old now.
I went to dual 40" HDTV's in about 2006 when TV's were finally suitable to use as a monitor. I still use 2 40" screens as monitors as well as a 23" touch screen. Love your videos and thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience!
I had 2 Sony Trinitron's that I also held onto for a long time, loved those things and the only reason I don't still have them is they were too big/heavy for me to bring when I moved states
The Trinitrons were great, but once I noticed the two horizontal lines (from the damper wires), I could never "not see them", and it drove me crazy. I had to replace them.
I’ve still got my Sun Trinitron. The 1152 x 900 resolution was a bit odd, but it was a fabulous picture for its day. Also that funky D shell size B connector with the coaxial ports and 13 pins or whatever it was had to be the strangest video interface cable o the planet. It was kind of cool that Sun used Apple ADB for the mouse and keyboard cables.
For those interested in this monitor: please be aware that this monitor seems to suffer from a production issue where affected panels are damaged with scratches over the entire width of the monitor. I went through multiple replacements, but 3/3 monitors (all produced May '24) suffered from this issue in varying degrees. My model from July '24 does not have any scratches, but does have some green bleed at the bottom part of the monitor. Not really the kind of quality control issues you expect from a top-of-the-line monitor meant for video editing.
Just a small correction: when the term "Retina Display" was introduced by Apple for the iPhone 4, Steve Jobs said it needed to be about 300 dpi at the distance a phone is typically held. The lowest ppi they have called Retina is 218.
*"The lowest ppi they have called Retina is 218."* That is interesting, as the original Samsung Galaxy S (AKA "Vibrant") has a resolution of 233 ppi, and the pixel structure can easily be discerned by one with good eyesight at normal view distances.
@@bricaaron3978 Distance matters too. The 218 ppi Retina displays are desktop devices or laptops. For iPads, Apple seems to think 264 ppi is the threshold. For iPhones, 326 ppi is the lowest they went with.
yep. PC monitors have been in the dark ages for a long, long time. even this "best monitor in the world" is lower resolution / lower ppi than 27" iMacs from over 10 years ago.
Nostalgia! My Commodore Plus4 still works. I loved that computer. The cartridges, the cassette drive, the built-in spreadsheet and word processor, two games on cassette. So fun.
I'm running 3x 40" ultrawide LG monitors off a Mac Studio. They are the 40WP95CP-W so only 5K72. Having 10 feet worth of diagonal monitor is something you get to live with easily. I could never go back.
I'm a mere mortal with vertically stacked 21:9 3440x1440 monitors, but I agree - ultrawide monitors are my only solution to both gaming & productivity. The only reason I would use a 16:9 monitor these days would be if I were a streamer with a dedicated vertical chat/stream monitor on the side.
My neck would hurt unless that whole 10 feet was probably 10 feet away lol. I use a Samsung 55" QLED for a monitor and that's hard to be closer than 3-4 feet...
@@smiththers2 if your neck hurts if you regularly use it, that's a health issue. My eyes are 35 inches from the centre of all 3 screens. I use the very outside edges of the outside monitors for things I don't use regularly like CCTV monitors and stock readouts. Whatever I'm doing like editing photos or video will be in the centre monitor. The inside edge of the outside monitors will be open folders of things I need and whatever I have playing on UA-cam.
Hey Dave, you can switch monitor inputs through Dell Display Manger if you install it on your PC and Mac. You'll have to install the software on both. The mac software has a smaller supported model list but yours will be in there.
Former Amiga user here. I had them all other than the 3000T. I loved them to an unreasonable degree. I'm a car guy as well, 74 455 Trans Am and 70 Olds Rallye 350 in the garage. I'm looking for an "affordable" 5k ultrawide to use with my new PC build once the 9950X3D and 5090 are available.
I bought a car from a friend for £500 back in 2001. When he dropped it off he told me there was a surprise in the boot. Turned out to be an IBM P76 24 inch monitor. It was an absolute beast of a monitor (I had to buy a new computer desk to support it) and would do 1600x1200 at 75Hz, could support up to 120Hz at lower resolutions, had BNC inputs as well as VGA and supported driving the beam directly to do pin-sharp vector graphics CAD style. All my friends were stuck at 1024x768 30Hz so everyone wanted to use my computer when we had LAN games. The best feature: a degauss button that made a loud twang when you pressed it and made the screen wobble for a few seconds. I ran that monitor for nearly 10 years as it was head and shoulders above any flat screen you could get at the time and eventually had to replace it with a Dell Ultrasharp U2311 after I dropped the P76 whilst cleaning and the case shattered and one of the circuit boards cracked. 😭
I had a magazine clipout of this monitor (Hitachi superscan 21") on my cubicle for over a year before I could finally afford to buy a used one for $1400 with shipping (early 1998). Lasted me well over 10 years. The degauss button - it had it too!
Seems we've had very much the same journey on displays! I started my snobbery with the Wyse VT-420 displays connected to VAX-VMS that provided 48 lines of text rather than the pedestrian 24 lines. I had the same series of NECs, Trinitrons, and Viewsonics (multiple sizes) before going LCD. Dell UltraSharp has always been my go-to as their professional screens, particularly the factory color calibrated ones were workhorses! I also went to the 34-inch Dell curved. Recently, I've switched to the Samsung NEO G9 49" for my personal workstation, relegating the Dell 34" to my WFH desk, but this new Dell looks amazing! Thanks for your video and consistently engaging content! For those of use who've been around since Windows and before, I can relate to so many of your topics. Also, was thrilled to see you were a Corvette guy as well!
This might be my new favorite channel and I barley understand your ramblings of relics from yesterday year but damn is it fascinating to learn. Thanks Dave!
KVM woes, keyboard, mouse, cam, boom mic, get disconnected from source machine and pop up as new usb devices on the switched-to machine. Works ok-ish for a few times, but eventually Windows gets super confused and crap hits the fan. Instead I would need the powered & R-Pie driven KVM switch, called PiKVM, that does actual USB routing, the source machines never have a USB drop & reconnect. Caveat, price. I got the info from a LTT video in 2022, if you want to search for it. So with a KVM-integrated monitor, if you "cold swap" meaning you power off one machine and power on the other machine, you will have zero issues. Hot-swapping won't work for very long. So now I use KVM to swap between laptop & desktop HDMI/DisplayPort Keyboard, mouse and cam/mic are doubled-up, which is a major PITA but much cheaper than a PiKVM as I already have multiple peripherals. Plus, my desk is wide enough. Currently using a Gigabyte M28U 4K 16:9 IPS @ 144Hz, it is lovely. A big step up from the LG 28" 4K IPS @ 60Hz, they are now my side monitors. MSFS with 3x 4K monitors is fun, the central one being 144Hz and side ones at 60Hz. No more using my laptop screen as an extra monitor screen. 3x 28", though, neck pain IS a thing...
Yep, just bought a LG 35 4K inch curved display to go with my Win 11 desktop. I enjoy being able to split the screen with two or more programs displayed at once.
The IBM 3290 Displays were pretty nice for their day. Worked on those while working in a NOC and having side by side sessions or quad sessions was ahead of its time
My original background was in design (now in IT), and I am extremely sensitive and picky with monitors. I really appreciate all the beautifully saturated colors using this video, as it looked great on my 32 inch 4K LG.
I have the U3818DW since 2017 and love the KVM. I added an usb hub to the back and hooked up my DAC/Headphone Amp, Mouse, Keyboard, Microphone and Webcam to it. The usb-c connection connects it to my work laptop and DP to my private PC
I started with dual monitors on Windows 98. It was nightmare with poor support and drivers. I clearly remember getting it to work once with my initial setup (one supported Matrox card and one not quite supported card driving a LCD-screen). Worked OK though as soon as I got two supported cards. Since then I've always had multi monitors getting bigger and better over time. My preference is not a curved screen, but one main screen in the middle and smaller screens on the sides. Suits my needs better than one huge screen. I find it very convenient to place utilities windows on one (or two) of the smaller screens while the main screen is used for whatever I'm working on. Just replaced my last really old 24" Dell and currently I've a four screens setup with a 30" as the main display, two cheap Lenovo 2560x1440 screens on one side and a LG Dual Up (2560x2880) on the other. My next upgrade will most likely be the 30" main screen which is getting old and could benefit from a resolution upgrade.
Love your channel. We are about the same age and have similar experiences, albeit I was not a Microsoft wiz kid. Watching this made me remember my Sony Trinitron 21 monitor I had that like you was my last CRT monitor. The size was huge but the weight is what killed me. I am a large strong man and hauling that thing around was a huge PIA. I also remember the tow feint lines that all Sony Trinitron CRT's had. I think they were for a filter or something but they were there when the monitor was mostly all white or a very light color. So fun going down memory lane with you.
Samsung released a dual 4k ultrawide that I really want. I love my 32:9 for everything. Can't beat an OLED, but I am with you on PPD. I have 20:15 vision and feel that true seemless PD requires zero visible aliasing at standard viewing distance.
Oh man, this brings back memories. My first color monitor was some no-name 15" CRT. Sometime around Win98 SE I managed to finesse a pair of 19" Sun workstation CRTs with 13W3 input. It was fun finding an adapter for those in the pre-Amazon days. As I recall I had to open them up and solder a sync wire jumper. They supported some obscene refresh rate, and at one point i had an Asus video card with wired LCD shutter glasses for some decent 3D. My first LCD would have been a 15" Viewsonic around 2004. I'm the only person in our office with Dell monitors, been running triple 27"s for about 4 years now.
I used our 2020 WFH stipend to purchase a standing desk and my first 32” Ultra-Wide IPS curved display, I’ll never go back to dual heads. And I’m one that adopted dual very early, 1993-ish on my Sun workstation, a Sparc 10 iirc with dual frame-buffers. Had two of those Sun monitors that took a forklift to get them on the desk. People though I was nuts, “why do you need two?”. Fast forward a decade and everyone wanted two. I’m over it, UW IPS any day.
As a Dell Ultrasharp user, I can confirm that they are great... when work pay for them lol. The KVM features are the bomb and the PBP modes are the killer feature for the ultrawides, splitting the screen up for multiple inputs, giving you "multiple monitors" again when you need it.
Oh Dave, you just took me back through 30 years of my computing career . The NEC Multisync, the Trinitron, the huge amount of space they took up in the corner of my desk
A few years ago I stopped using computer monitors. I switched to 48" OLED TVs. I never look back, 4K 120hz HDR, Screens are further from my eyes, and I have more free desk space. The colors, refresh rate, and sound are perfect. The price is lower by factor than a good monitor. The only disadvantages I can think of are no desktop background image, autohide taskbar, and Windows dark theme is necessary to protect them from burn-in. Also, I wrote some code to control inputs, sleep, wakeup, pixel recovery, and disabling Google Movies. Network control API is limited on smart TVs, so I ended up using ADB to control them. That was fun and joy for my masochistic side.
I was an early multiple monitor adopter as well. I used two networked Win2k PCs (each with its own monitor) along with a KVM switch (minus the V). Now-a-days, my main Linux box has two big monitors and between VNC and Virtual computers, I can control any computer in the house.
Back when the DRMO auctions were a thing, one of the lots I won had two minty 21” NEC Diamond Pro monitors on the pallet. Both me and the wifey ran those beautiful displays for ages. Threw my back out one time moving one of those beasts solo. So worth it at the time.
been waiting for a monitor like this for so long. Very excited to see they are finally coming to market. Will wait a bit for them to become more reasonable, but its finally here!
I ordered one this week for Music Production. Wanted something big but not too big, that could take thunderbolt for display with my mac studio and my dell xps laptop, that had good image quality and a higher than 60hz refresh rate. My main need was being able to have my arrange window and mix window and track window all displayed when i need them while having enough space to not feel cluttered.
This is what I'm getting - HP E45c G5 44.5-inch super ultrawide. I'll also add a couple of smaller screens at the sides, but haven't decided what models they'll be. Upgrading from a 49" 4K TV that I've been using for almost 5 years. I do not play games on any of my computers, just work stuff.
This is one of few monitor hubs that provide the power required for my Dell Precision laptop since I need 130W and this can output 140 W. It has meant I could rip out so much extra equipment and do everything from this one display. I do wish I had a 1 ms or 2ms response time, but I don’t really use this for gaming so it works out okay.
That very NEC monitor is the reason I have a bad back! It weighed a ton and lifting it badly was a good way to get yourself a bad back as I proved. The old days of hitting the degaus button and the potential flicker if your lighting was not optimal. I always made a point of getting my users the best monitors I could buy because people are looking at for 8+ hours a day.
What exactly is great about it? It has some nice features but everything it does is beaten by another monitor. Very often several of its features at once. What's the price?
I feel it. Long history with multiple displays, 20", 17", and 14" CRTs in the 90's. Part of the niche audience with 2 Macs, 1 PC and 5 displays wrapped around me, preferring one keyboard and mouse. I've upgraded 2 displays to higher refresh this past year but can't give up my 23" Apple Display from 2005.
The software you are looking for to move the mouse between your PC and Mac is called Synergy. There is an open-source version called "barrier" but it hasn't been updated for some time.
I use to have 3 x 21" NEC MultiSync (in the mid-90's) and a 24" SGI monitor (with BNC's) that I acquired from a drafting shop. Those were the days. lol
That resolution setting on the mac is really not correct. The mac retina is implemented for 2X scaling and nothing else. It's hard-coded in OSX. So with that monitor you need to pick the default proposed default resolution, 2560x1080, which is exactly half the resolution of the monitor. Everything is smudged (and slower) if you use any other resolution. For a 4k monitor, you use 1920x1080. There are a few videos on youtube that explain this and why we seek 5k monitors or 1440p 27 inch monitors for macs
Like you, I'm a bit of a snob for monitors too. I started with a Sony CPD-1304 CRT monitor for many years. I loved the vertically flat screen, and excellent blacks compared to the lesser monitors my friends were using. I moved to Samsung 17" 191T afterwards, and finally a Dell 30" capable of 2560x1600. Now I'm thinking of either this 40" Dell or maybe the 40" LG.
never got into ultrawide or curved but loving my current 3x 4k 43" 16x9's 60/60/144 hz setup. and yes after being spoiled on these i cant work on anything less. had to have work get me something i could be comfortable on.
@@JohnPMiller lol yeah i meant inch. i can never remember which symbol to use. ' seems more appropriate since it is less than '' . but 43" is not that far off now that we got 100+ inch and laser projectors. pretty sure 8k or 16 k would work well with a 516 inch screen.
I love the walk down memory lane. In college I ultra-splurged on a Mac II with the Apple Color Monitor (Trinitron) that was my go-to screen for many years. But it's rival was the NEC Multiscan which was also one of the best out there. As for curved screens, I daily drive two Samsung C34H89x, one for each Mac. They aren't anywhere in the class of the Dell you have but they work and my company paid for them for remote work (the offices have them too).
I remember going down to the local computer store (remember those) and plunking down $1050 for a NEC Multisync 17". This was back in the day when a dollar was still worth 50 cents. I never regretted the purchase, and there was no complaint from my wife once she saw the screen. The monitor you're reviewing is likely cheaper than the NEC after accounting for inflation. I wish I needed it.
Nice to see you had the U3818DW. My current monitor for two years now, using the KVM to connect to my 2012 12-Core Mac Pro 5,1, 2018 i7 Mac mini and my Lenovo work Laptop (connected via the HDMI through a Dell Dock). It it is hard for me to go into the office and use a 24" display ever again. I can do everything on this display. Thinking I will get that 40" to pair with an Mac Studio next year when I finally replace my 2018 mac mini
I have been running a U3419W for about two years now. It's hard to go back to dual 27" monitors at the office. Though I do have a 27" in portrait at home now I use mainly when working at the house. Thanks for the great content, Dave!
My final CRT was a "22 inch" Hitachi, it wasn't flat but it was capable of crazy-high refresh rates and weird high resolutions meant for radiology way beyond what my video card could handle with 3D acceleration. I did a 3-year lease-to-own deal on it so it cost like CDN$3600, and it was totally worth it.
Ive been using a Dell D3221QS, 32" 60hz curved 4k for 3 years or so now. I got it for work and after seeing it in person my boss got one for himself as well. I absolutely love this display for productivity work so i can just imagine how much better their new model is. 120hz is the only thing i wish this had. It sits above a trio of 360hz alienware monitors, and by comparison it feels "laggy" i guess is the best way to describe it
Hi Dave, I just got the new Dell U4025QW and connected it to my M1 Max MacBook Pro via Thunderbolt 4 using the cable that came with the monitor. The display is fantastic and a huge upgrade from my old U3818DW-thanks in part to your recommendation! However, I’m running into an issue: whenever I restart my Mac, all the monitor's ports briefly switch off and on once or twice. This causes any connected devices (like my backup drive and light bar) to disconnect and reconnect during the restart. Both the monitor (firmware M3T103) and macOS (Sequoia 15.0.1) are fully updated. I was wondering if you've come across this or if you have any advice or workarounds. Thanks for all the great content and insights!
I also believe bigger is better when it comes to monitors. I have 32 inch Dell that i use daily. I've considered moving to an even larger curved monitor and your video helped move me closer to making that leap. Thanks again for your good solid reviews!
I agree with you regarding monitors, more pixels = better. I currently have a 3 monitor setup. Left: Dell U2713H 1440p Centre: Dell U3219Q 4K Right: Dell U2713H 1440p Scaling in windows is set to 100%,
Oh and Dave, nice video editing and attention to detail - I appreciate paying attention to giving enough time for viewers to actually be able to read the hard coded text without having to rewind and pause the video, yet not having it on screen for too long where it becomes annoying. Keep up the good work.
that blend from the video recorded off of the monitor to the source video was just perfect :P
And having that all be true while watching at 2x is perfection
the camera cut to the monitor with you still talking was a nice touch
I've had this monitor for 2 weeks. I work in Logic Pro 80% of the time. It's a great upgrade from my 1440 LG 34". I'm able to use it at it's native 5120x2160. Sharp, perfect size for music production.Highly recommend it!
2:07 "I was part of the NT GUI team that was responsible for adding multiple monitor support"
Dude, are there any of the good features in Windows that you're _not_ responsible for?! It seems if you pick any of the things that Windows has nailed from a useability perspective, it's got davepl's name all over it!
I gotta multimonitor support on windows is something that drives me crazy to this day. Which monitor number gets assigned to which monitor seems to be a nondeterministic mess.
Welcome to the club :) I have U4021QW for about a year now and LOVE it. Best investment and no back problems from twisting my body for looking on multiple monitors.
People who obsess over monitor brightness are just nit picking.
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😂 nice
Aayyy! We're nitpicky but rightfully so! 😂 A lot of ultrawides lack adequate brightness so if you work next to a bright window, the screen can look dim. As an interface designer, accurate color and brightness is crucial because my whites look more like light gray... And think about how much whites and grays are our any app or website. It's a big issue if I can't tell them apart. 💀
Plus, I'm paying for these big windows for a reason. If I have to close my blinds and work in a dark room just to work effectively, it defeats the purpose. I might as well just live in a cave lol
@@katwdesigns your problem!
@@katwdesigns I always look dim. I blame my multiple LG monitors.
The NECs were sweet. I remember as a teen saving up from my summer jobs to buy a P750 and it trounced everything my friends had. NEC customer service was awesome as well. One time I had a later model exchanged for bad geometry even the service menu couldn't fix and they literally sent a courier (from Germany to The Netherlands, mind you) to pick it up and deliver a new one the next day, no questions asked. Their digital CRT projectors were superb as well, I continued using my XG-110LC well into the 2000s. Being loyal to the brand I also tried their first LCD monitors but they were pretty bland and I sadly moved on.
I still have a NEC 20" WGX2 lying around in my basement, which was a pretty good 16:10 IPS lcd monitor. But it was hard to get at the time (in the Netherlands) and relatively expensive.
Nec Monitors were quite good as long as they did not break down. Their printers were terrible and their support was lies and non existent. I managed a large IBM PC reseller service section in Sydney Australia in the mid to late 1980s and some NEC products were part of the sales offering. We had broken NEC equipment on every self in the building, all under warranty waiting parts. Nearly all printers and nearly all with the same fault. Broken paper feed knobs. Could we get spares. No. They were always "on the way" and "being produced now" as NEC Japan had not made any as spare parts. We stopped selling them. Nec was supposedly a very profitable going ahead company, yes, because it had no post sale support and warranty costs. But NEC disappeared from the market sometime after. This was not limited to NEC several Japanese companies had no post sales support. Unlike the US and European manufactures who had recommended lists of spares that should be carried depending on sales volumes and market penetration.
The monitor that I really wanted back in early 1994 was the Sony 17" trinitron. Unfortunately my parents were with me at the store. Dad freaked out that I was going to spend $1,200 (or so) on a new 17" monitor. I ended up leaving the Fry's with a NEC 4FGe 15" monitor. It was adequate. But certainly not worth saving that $500 delta.
The 4FGE claimed to be 15", but it was really more like 13.7" as I recall.
I had a NEC 3D early on and then got a deal on a new NEC 6FG. That was a 150lb monitor.
I had Mitsubishi 750SB. No LCD can offer picture quality any close. But it was only 17"... So it had to go in april 2009, when was replaced by 1080p Samsung P2370. Since 2016 it's 4K LG 27".
- [00:00] 🖥 Dave introduces the Dell Ultrasharp U425WQ, a 40-inch curved 5K1 120 HDR monitor, highlighting its features and his monitor preferences over the years.
- [05:29] 🔄 Dave reminisces about his experience with multiple monitors at Microsoft, highlighting his early adoption and preference for larger displays for debugging and productivity.
- [09:19] 💻 Dave recalls his history with different types of monitors, from CRTs to LCDs, emphasizing his preference for larger displays for both work and home setups.
- [12:27] 🖼 Dave discusses his transition to a curved monitor with the Dell U3415W, detailing its features and his positive experience.
- [16:20] 🛠 Dave explains his upgrade to the Dell Ultrasharp 3818DW, highlighting its features, including the three-input KVM switch, and his satisfaction with its performance.
- [23:29] 🖥 Dave introduces the Dell Ultrasharp 40-inch monitor, detailing its specs, features, and his excitement to test it out, emphasizing its 5K resolution, 120 Hz refresh rate, and KVM support.
- [29:56] 🎮 Dave discusses the gaming capabilities of the Dell Ultrasharp 40-inch monitor, mentioning its response time and compatibility with both PC and Mac setups.
- [33:50] ⚙ Dave shares his experience with the monitor's setup process, including connectivity options, software features like Dell's Display Manager, and scaling considerations for high-DPI displays.
Those time stamps are trashed
I swear he said 'parsec'. I started chuckling and was totally entertained. Well done Dave!
Got to keep the display chromulent.
Niche monitor geek jokes.
He had Trekkie shock from the massive pixel count.
He DID say it! I thought so, too, but now I'm sure!!
12 minutes before any description of the monitor in the title. Should have been "My history with monitors."
Thanks for the heads up, I have learned to read the comments first lol
"The holy grail" ? I remember when the "pizza box" Sun workstations came with 20" black and white CRTs. That was the holy grail back then. 1 MB of RAM and a 100 MB SCSI hard drive ! That was heaven. Everything has been gravy since then.
Dam, I can remember humping one of those around to give demonstrations to customers. We had padded bags for all the individual components, but the monitor was a two-man lift.
@@davidclift5989 Yeah Sun was all proud of how small their computer was and then there was the huge monitor that went with it. It was very good for its time though. It gave the user enough screen real estate to view the analog clock beside a code window. LOL. Way nicer than a 13 or 15" CRT.
The "gravy" 👍seems to improve with every dip into the pot.
There is a software called Synergy that will let you mouse between 2 computers. Mac and Pc.
I also work on Linix , but steal your speed a bit
Microsoft has Mouse Without borders, works the same, only windows though
that's not the solution to the problem though. the question is to swap the screen input.
Synergy is for continuous experience for two different systems with single mouse/keyboard and clipboard sharing. Bought out by Logitech iirc. People say it works, but haven't tried it. So it may be the one for the OP to try out.
There's also lots of various software for one-system multimon setups. Display Fusion, Actual multiple monitors, etc. the latter having lots of options including which window opens where, grid setups, hotkeys, etc.
I can imagine two of those dell monsters one-above-the-other :)
@@GottZuseful if you have one monitor per machine but only want one kbd/mouse.
OMG Dave you just made me flashback to the 90s...I had the same NEC Multisync display. I even got to take it home, to power my home PC.
As to two of those monitors I know that trading floors will use them, but not side by side. They will be stacked on top of the other.
Love all your gear in the background. You are making me want to pull out my original Apple I that is signed by Jobs and Woz!
On the Mac, in HiDPI resolutions, you're actually driving the monitor at 2x the resolution you select. So 2560x1440 is actually driven at 5k; 3840x2160 at 8k, etc. If you use SwitchResX you can see the difference between 3840x2160 1:1 and 3840x2160 HiDPI mode (8k). Since there's no anti-aliasing anymore in MacOS, it makes a big difference.
Are you saying 4025qw is a good monitor to purchase? How is the text clarity like on HiDPI mode? Is it closest to studio display?
13:30 As the owner of a Samsung Odyssey G9 OLED 49" 32:9 widescreen, I can relate to the feeling. The embedded software on this thing is terrible! Way too complex when all you want to do is switch inputs or maybe go to split view mode. And as soon as you unplug a device, it forgets all the settings and you have to reset everything! On the other hand, the display itself is beyond words, truly amazing. So it's sorta worth it!
I was running dual monitors in a DOS environment for debugging with Borland C++ and also with Clipper 5.x in the early 1990's. It was possible to have a VGA monochrome card and an ATI VGA Wonder in the same machine as they used separate memory addresses. If "memory" serves me you could run the monochrome VGA card at either B000 or B800. This configuration allowed you to have the app you were debugging on the color screen and the debugger running on the monochrome. Or you could do it the other way around and have the debugger on the color monitor and the application running on the monochrome. It was a much better environment for debugging a Small Grroup Insurance Proposal System with many complexities of different rules by state which drove product availability and rating. There was a presentation layer, a product availability module, and a rating engine that was used both for quoting new business and also used renewal rate calculations.
Yes, you remember correctly!
I was running both a monochrome and color display, both in graphics mode, so I could more quickly make sure my (custom!) graphics code worked on both.
It was painful to give up the monochrome display, but I eventually did to support 800x600 VGA, which required the full 64k address space (both 0xB0000 and 0xB8000).
Well, actually, I temporarily gave it up so I could double-buffer my graphics…
For me, the most impressive thing about W95 was its ability to _virtualize_ my double-buffered VGA code in a 640x350 window on a 1024x768 desktop, with the CPU utilization at less than 30% on a 33 MHz 486. (!!!)
Of course, it sucked so much in so many other ways, I’ve been a Linux user since ‘96, but hey, I give credit where it’s due.
@@altosack what distro do you prefer for your desktop PC?
Full stack DOS application sounds like a tech stack 1 level deep :-D
@@andynn6691 It was a Insurance quoting system written in Clipper 5.x ( a compiled version of dBase) There were modules for product availability and a rating engine. The front end was Clipper 5.x with console/io functions that we wrote in C. We also used a CAS 2.0 fax library so that our agents could fax quotes directly to clients. We were using Blinker for compiling and linking. The data was stored in dBase .dbf files using the foxpro .cdx indexes as they performed better. The software was distributed to insurance agents around the country on 3½ and 5¼ disks that we created on our own disk duplication machines and mailed out. Not bad for the early 1990's 🙂
Same here on and 286 with a VGA card and old monochrome card, does anyone remember control keys to switch back and forth between monitors, it’s not important but it just bothers me I can’t remember it.
I had a couple of those NEC CRT's back when I worked for the oil company. They lent me one for home that they never asked for back and I used for a while after they were merged I was surplused. I am still using my Dell Ultrasharp from 2008 though not as my primary monitor it has been an incredible work horse and well worth what was a premium at the time but it wasn't curved and now I don't think I could go back to a flat monitor for my primary
Back in the days as a Tech support I used to come across employees using their tube monitor which was capable of around 75 hz. Problem was it was set to 30ish hz... They didn't notice the flickering. I was wondering how many headaches they had each days. So I quickly fixed that display setting. They never complained about the horrible flickering.. Just amazed me as I could spot wrong display settings from a mile away.
This new monitor your are test driving is just incredibly awesome.. I would love to get my hands on it.. But for you to take advantage of it I guess I would also need to get an RTX 4090.. that is looking at a total of € 4500,= at local prices here (NL)..... Guess I'll have to wait and keep using my Dell curved S3220DGF which is pretty good..
I had an ingenious Frankenbuild in 1987: A MacPlus, modded with an SE motherboard, an internal SCSI harddisk and a PC PSU and a fan, partly hiding behind an E-Machines "The Big Picture", a 1024 x 768 17" display with a slow phosphor, that had an asymmetric back so that the Mac just showed enough so you could access the Floppy drive. Word 4 was king for years on the Mac. An amazing step up from WordPerfect 5.1. Sadly no longer have it :-( Around 2001, I upgraded my Apple 13" Trinitron (gorgeous) to a Sun 17 inch LCD that lasted for many years. That was a rock solid display.
Mac's are optimised for ~109 ppi, not the ~96 mentioned, that said, 96 ppi will give you relatively 'clean' text, albeit slightly more pixelated than it would be at 109 ppi. Eg., an 5k Apple 27" (5120x2880) is natively 218 ppi for which the default scaling shows as 109ppi. This is the same with the Pro Display XDR 32" at 6016 x3384 is natively 218 ppi. The older Apple 27" Thunderbolt display is 2880x1440, natively 109ppi, which still displays very good text right down to 8 - 9 pt..
Bottom line: if seeking to use a non Apple monitor with a mac without resorting to custom resolution(s) via thrid party software best (text clarity) results are achieved with a monitor that has a native resolution of ~109 ppi or, for 'Retina' quality, one scaledable by a factor of 2, ie., ~218 ppi.
Rough and ready guide for native viewing on wide to ultrawide monitors (16:9, 21:9, 32:9):
- 5120x1440 is best on a 48-49", 3840x1600 is best viewed on a 43-45", 3440x1440 is best ~38" & 2880x1440 at 27", 2240x1260 for 24" and 1920x1080 at ~21".
For 'Retina' viewing on wide-screen (16:9), look for:
- 6016x3384 (6K) at ~32", 5120x2880 (5K) at ~27", 4480-x2520 (4.5k) at ~24" & 4096x2304 (4K) at ~21.5"
pete.
When I stopped using Macs it was still 72 ppi/dpi.
Love the history and review of this, I equally am super excited about this release! I also just bought and read your book and it was profoundly helpful in understanding certain parts of myself, for which I thank you greatly. ♥
I will pretend I never watched this video and I know nothing about the new perfect Dell monitor that I’m drooling over.
broken kit was a valuable commodity in the 90’s for me because we had a way of getting it swapped for brand new kit - the same piece of broken kit may go through the system more than once each time providing a new bit of kit
I have the older brother of this monitor (the non-120 Hz 40 inch 5k one). It's pretty nice as well. It's absolutely enormous.
I keep waiting too, or this DELL, Samsung Qled gen 2 Odyssey ?
love everything about it. The 50/50 split, the docking station, the sharpness and colours. what's not to love?;)
I got a gen 2 odyssey ark in early december and can say its a pretty serious screen, i dont edit videos so cant comment on color accuracy but it is massive and really immersive, tons of features i wont utilize but the multi screen is sweet@@lucasrem
I love your channel, feels like watching my ideal future self talk about tech. Thanks Dave!
From one Amiga lover to another, thank you for the recommendation. I bought this monitor because of this video, and I absolutely love it!
I've always been a fan of the Apple/Dell 16 by 10 monitors -- the Apple 30'' Cinema Display is still one of my favorite monitors -- especially the later upgraded ones. The fact that Dell still makes a variant of these just goes to show how good these monitors were for the time. These monitors are approaching 20 years old now.
I went to dual 40" HDTV's in about 2006 when TV's were finally suitable to use as a monitor. I still use 2 40" screens as monitors as well as a 23" touch screen. Love your videos and thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience!
My favorite ever monitor was the Sun branded 17" Sony Trinitron. I hung on to that for many years!
I had 2 Sony Trinitron's that I also held onto for a long time, loved those things and the only reason I don't still have them is they were too big/heavy for me to bring when I moved states
When did you finally part ways with and why?
Part of me still misses CRTs.
The Trinitrons were great, but once I noticed the two horizontal lines (from the damper wires), I could never "not see them", and it drove me crazy. I had to replace them.
I’ve still got my Sun Trinitron. The 1152 x 900 resolution was a bit odd, but it was a fabulous picture for its day. Also that funky D shell size B connector with the coaxial ports and 13 pins or whatever it was had to be the strangest video interface cable o the planet. It was kind of cool that Sun used Apple ADB for the mouse and keyboard cables.
For those interested in this monitor: please be aware that this monitor seems to suffer from a production issue where affected panels are damaged with scratches over the entire width of the monitor. I went through multiple replacements, but 3/3 monitors (all produced May '24) suffered from this issue in varying degrees. My model from July '24 does not have any scratches, but does have some green bleed at the bottom part of the monitor. Not really the kind of quality control issues you expect from a top-of-the-line monitor meant for video editing.
Thanks for the heads up
Review starts at 11:50
Yep, painful
Thanks for that clear cut review on the monitor Dave! Love your mancave setup!
Just a small correction: when the term "Retina Display" was introduced by Apple for the iPhone 4, Steve Jobs said it needed to be about 300 dpi at the distance a phone is typically held.
The lowest ppi they have called Retina is 218.
*"The lowest ppi they have called Retina is 218."*
That is interesting, as the original Samsung Galaxy S (AKA "Vibrant") has a resolution of 233 ppi, and the pixel structure can easily be discerned by one with good eyesight at normal view distances.
@@bricaaron3978 Distance matters too. The 218 ppi Retina displays are desktop devices or laptops. For iPads, Apple seems to think 264 ppi is the threshold. For iPhones, 326 ppi is the lowest they went with.
yep. PC monitors have been in the dark ages for a long, long time. even this "best monitor in the world" is lower resolution / lower ppi than 27" iMacs from over 10 years ago.
Nostalgia! My Commodore Plus4 still works. I loved that computer. The cartridges, the cassette drive, the built-in spreadsheet and word processor, two games on cassette. So fun.
I'm running 3x 40" ultrawide LG monitors off a Mac Studio. They are the 40WP95CP-W so only 5K72. Having 10 feet worth of diagonal monitor is something you get to live with easily. I could never go back.
I'm a mere mortal with vertically stacked 21:9 3440x1440 monitors, but I agree - ultrawide monitors are my only solution to both gaming & productivity. The only reason I would use a 16:9 monitor these days would be if I were a streamer with a dedicated vertical chat/stream monitor on the side.
72 hertz !!!
just a TV !
My neck would hurt unless that whole 10 feet was probably 10 feet away lol. I use a Samsung 55" QLED for a monitor and that's hard to be closer than 3-4 feet...
@@lucasrem It's a Mac, I'm not gaming on it.
@@smiththers2 if your neck hurts if you regularly use it, that's a health issue.
My eyes are 35 inches from the centre of all 3 screens. I use the very outside edges of the outside monitors for things I don't use regularly like CCTV monitors and stock readouts.
Whatever I'm doing like editing photos or video will be in the centre monitor. The inside edge of the outside monitors will be open folders of things I need and whatever I have playing on UA-cam.
Hey Dave, you can switch monitor inputs through Dell Display Manger if you install it on your PC and Mac. You'll have to install the software on both. The mac software has a smaller supported model list but yours will be in there.
So awesome man! Great show! Thank you!
Former Amiga user here. I had them all other than the 3000T. I loved them to an unreasonable degree. I'm a car guy as well, 74 455 Trans Am and 70 Olds Rallye 350 in the garage. I'm looking for an "affordable" 5k ultrawide to use with my new PC build once the 9950X3D and 5090 are available.
Thanks for the tip! I just ordered one based on your review.
Hope you enjoy it!
I ordered mine 1 week ago. I'm glade to here from you, that I seem to picked the right monitor. Thanks for making such videos.
Lovely review. Does the M2 support the full 120Hz 5k2k over Thunderbolt? I have not been able to confirm this anywhere.
I'm using 14 year old Samsung 16:10 (1920x1200) LCDs. Still working fine for me.
I bought a car from a friend for £500 back in 2001. When he dropped it off he told me there was a surprise in the boot. Turned out to be an IBM P76 24 inch monitor. It was an absolute beast of a monitor (I had to buy a new computer desk to support it) and would do 1600x1200 at 75Hz, could support up to 120Hz at lower resolutions, had BNC inputs as well as VGA and supported driving the beam directly to do pin-sharp vector graphics CAD style. All my friends were stuck at 1024x768 30Hz so everyone wanted to use my computer when we had LAN games.
The best feature: a degauss button that made a loud twang when you pressed it and made the screen wobble for a few seconds.
I ran that monitor for nearly 10 years as it was head and shoulders above any flat screen you could get at the time and eventually had to replace it with a Dell Ultrasharp U2311 after I dropped the P76 whilst cleaning and the case shattered and one of the circuit boards cracked. 😭
I had a magazine clipout of this monitor (Hitachi superscan 21") on my cubicle for over a year before I could finally afford to buy a used one for $1400 with shipping (early 1998). Lasted me well over 10 years. The degauss button - it had it too!
Seems we've had very much the same journey on displays! I started my snobbery with the Wyse VT-420 displays connected to VAX-VMS that provided 48 lines of text rather than the pedestrian 24 lines. I had the same series of NECs, Trinitrons, and Viewsonics (multiple sizes) before going LCD. Dell UltraSharp has always been my go-to as their professional screens, particularly the factory color calibrated ones were workhorses! I also went to the 34-inch Dell curved. Recently, I've switched to the Samsung NEO G9 49" for my personal workstation, relegating the Dell 34" to my WFH desk, but this new Dell looks amazing!
Thanks for your video and consistently engaging content! For those of use who've been around since Windows and before, I can relate to so many of your topics. Also, was thrilled to see you were a Corvette guy as well!
This might be my new favorite channel and I barley understand your ramblings of relics from yesterday year but damn is it fascinating to learn. Thanks Dave!
KVM woes, keyboard, mouse, cam, boom mic, get disconnected from source machine and pop up as new usb devices on the switched-to machine.
Works ok-ish for a few times, but eventually Windows gets super confused and crap hits the fan.
Instead I would need the powered & R-Pie driven KVM switch, called PiKVM, that does actual USB routing, the source machines never have a USB drop & reconnect.
Caveat, price. I got the info from a LTT video in 2022, if you want to search for it.
So with a KVM-integrated monitor, if you "cold swap" meaning you power off one machine and power on the other machine, you will have zero issues. Hot-swapping won't work for very long.
So now I use KVM to swap between laptop & desktop HDMI/DisplayPort
Keyboard, mouse and cam/mic are doubled-up, which is a major PITA but much cheaper than a PiKVM as I already have multiple peripherals. Plus, my desk is wide enough.
Currently using a Gigabyte M28U 4K 16:9 IPS @ 144Hz, it is lovely. A big step up from the LG 28" 4K IPS @ 60Hz, they are now my side monitors.
MSFS with 3x 4K monitors is fun, the central one being 144Hz and side ones at 60Hz.
No more using my laptop screen as an extra monitor screen. 3x 28", though, neck pain IS a thing...
Video starts at 11:25
First time viewer to the channel really enjoy this format of product review with a bit of story telling here and there
I too have a Dell 38" with a Macbook and love it, excellent review this will be my next screen, thanks Dave.
Using Logitech software (Options\+) you can switch between PC and Mac just by dragging mouse into corresponding monitor (side).
O.L.E.D. or G.T.F.O.
Yep, just bought a LG 35 4K inch curved display to go with my Win 11 desktop. I enjoy being able to split the screen with two or more programs displayed at once.
It should have had 1600 height, this is basically a downgrade to the 38" ultradwides from a few years ago for anyone who cares about screen estate.
How is 2160p in height a downgrade?
The IBM 3290 Displays were pretty nice for their day. Worked on those while working in a NOC and having side by side sessions or quad sessions was ahead of its time
17:32 I've used Synergy for this and it worked pretty ok
My original background was in design (now in IT), and I am extremely sensitive and picky with monitors. I really appreciate all the beautifully saturated colors using this video, as it looked great on my 32 inch 4K LG.
As a software engineer who games in the side, this is exactly what I needed. Great review!
Hopefully we get an OLED version, LG will drop one next
I have the U3818DW since 2017 and love the KVM. I added an usb hub to the back and hooked up my DAC/Headphone Amp, Mouse, Keyboard, Microphone and Webcam to it. The usb-c connection connects it to my work laptop and DP to my private PC
I started with dual monitors on Windows 98. It was nightmare with poor support and drivers. I clearly remember getting it to work once with my initial setup (one supported Matrox card and one not quite supported card driving a LCD-screen). Worked OK though as soon as I got two supported cards.
Since then I've always had multi monitors getting bigger and better over time. My preference is not a curved screen, but one main screen in the middle and smaller screens on the sides. Suits my needs better than one huge screen. I find it very convenient to place utilities windows on one (or two) of the smaller screens while the main screen is used for whatever I'm working on.
Just replaced my last really old 24" Dell and currently I've a four screens setup with a 30" as the main display, two cheap Lenovo 2560x1440 screens on one side and a LG Dual Up (2560x2880) on the other. My next upgrade will most likely be the 30" main screen which is getting old and could benefit from a resolution upgrade.
Great insight, Dave! So glad I finally found an old I.T. kindered spirit who speaks our world so well. Your videos are amazing! Keep them coming!
Love your channel. We are about the same age and have similar experiences, albeit I was not a Microsoft wiz kid. Watching this made me remember my Sony Trinitron 21 monitor I had that like you was my last CRT monitor. The size was huge but the weight is what killed me. I am a large strong man and hauling that thing around was a huge PIA. I also remember the tow feint lines that all Sony Trinitron CRT's had. I think they were for a filter or something but they were there when the monitor was mostly all white or a very light color. So fun going down memory lane with you.
Dell makes a nice monitor. I’ve had a U2420 for over a decade now. No problems and still going strong.
Samsung released a dual 4k ultrawide that I really want. I love my 32:9 for everything. Can't beat an OLED, but I am with you on PPD. I have 20:15 vision and feel that true seemless PD requires zero visible aliasing at standard viewing distance.
Oh man, this brings back memories. My first color monitor was some no-name 15" CRT. Sometime around Win98 SE I managed to finesse a pair of 19" Sun workstation CRTs with 13W3 input. It was fun finding an adapter for those in the pre-Amazon days. As I recall I had to open them up and solder a sync wire jumper. They supported some obscene refresh rate, and at one point i had an Asus video card with wired LCD shutter glasses for some decent 3D.
My first LCD would have been a 15" Viewsonic around 2004. I'm the only person in our office with Dell monitors, been running triple 27"s for about 4 years now.
I used our 2020 WFH stipend to purchase a standing desk and my first 32” Ultra-Wide IPS curved display, I’ll never go back to dual heads. And I’m one that adopted dual very early, 1993-ish on my Sun workstation, a Sparc 10 iirc with dual frame-buffers. Had two of those Sun monitors that took a forklift to get them on the desk. People though I was nuts, “why do you need two?”. Fast forward a decade and everyone wanted two. I’m over it, UW IPS any day.
As a Dell Ultrasharp user, I can confirm that they are great... when work pay for them lol. The KVM features are the bomb and the PBP modes are the killer feature for the ultrawides, splitting the screen up for multiple inputs, giving you "multiple monitors" again when you need it.
Oh Dave, you just took me back through 30 years of my computing career . The NEC Multisync, the Trinitron, the huge amount of space they took up in the corner of my desk
A few years ago I stopped using computer monitors. I switched to 48" OLED TVs. I never look back, 4K 120hz HDR, Screens are further from my eyes, and I have more free desk space. The colors, refresh rate, and sound are perfect. The price is lower by factor than a good monitor. The only disadvantages I can think of are no desktop background image, autohide taskbar, and Windows dark theme is necessary to protect them from burn-in. Also, I wrote some code to control inputs, sleep, wakeup, pixel recovery, and disabling Google Movies. Network control API is limited on smart TVs, so I ended up using ADB to control them. That was fun and joy for my masochistic side.
I was an early multiple monitor adopter as well. I used two networked Win2k PCs (each with its own monitor) along with a KVM switch (minus the V). Now-a-days, my main Linux box has two big monitors and between VNC and Virtual computers, I can control any computer in the house.
Back when the DRMO auctions were a thing, one of the lots I won had two minty 21” NEC Diamond Pro monitors on the pallet. Both me and the wifey ran those beautiful displays for ages. Threw my back out one time moving one of those beasts solo. So worth it at the time.
been waiting for a monitor like this for so long. Very excited to see they are finally coming to market. Will wait a bit for them to become more reasonable, but its finally here!
I ordered one this week for Music Production. Wanted something big but not too big, that could take thunderbolt for display with my mac studio and my dell xps laptop, that had good image quality and a higher than 60hz refresh rate. My main need was being able to have my arrange window and mix window and track window all displayed when i need them while having enough space to not feel cluttered.
This is what I'm getting - HP E45c G5 44.5-inch super ultrawide.
I'll also add a couple of smaller screens at the sides, but haven't decided what models they'll be.
Upgrading from a 49" 4K TV that I've been using for almost 5 years.
I do not play games on any of my computers, just work stuff.
6:45 - This is why I never understood, back in the day, why Color TV was advertised on (mostly) Black & White TV sets!
This is one of few monitor hubs that provide the power required for my Dell Precision laptop since I need 130W and this can output 140 W. It has meant I could rip out so much extra equipment and do everything from this one display. I do wish I had a 1 ms or 2ms response time, but I don’t really use this for gaming so it works out okay.
That very NEC monitor is the reason I have a bad back! It weighed a ton and lifting it badly was a good way to get yourself a bad back as I proved.
The old days of hitting the degaus button and the potential flicker if your lighting was not optimal.
I always made a point of getting my users the best monitors I could buy because people are looking at for 8+ hours a day.
What exactly is great about it? It has some nice features but everything it does is beaten by another monitor. Very often several of its features at once. What's the price?
I feel it. Long history with multiple displays, 20", 17", and 14" CRTs in the 90's. Part of the niche audience with 2 Macs, 1 PC and 5 displays wrapped around me, preferring one keyboard and mouse. I've upgraded 2 displays to higher refresh this past year but can't give up my 23" Apple Display from 2005.
The software you are looking for to move the mouse between your PC and Mac is called Synergy. There is an open-source version called "barrier" but it hasn't been updated for some time.
I use to have 3 x 21" NEC MultiSync (in the mid-90's) and a 24" SGI monitor (with BNC's) that I acquired from a drafting shop. Those were the days. lol
That would be the ultimate street cred... Oh, the 21" Multisync? That's my *small* monitor!
That resolution setting on the mac is really not correct. The mac retina is implemented for 2X scaling and nothing else. It's hard-coded in OSX. So with that monitor you need to pick the default proposed default resolution, 2560x1080, which is exactly half the resolution of the monitor. Everything is smudged (and slower) if you use any other resolution. For a 4k monitor, you use 1920x1080. There are a few videos on youtube that explain this and why we seek 5k monitors or 1440p 27 inch monitors for macs
Like you, I'm a bit of a snob for monitors too. I started with a Sony CPD-1304 CRT monitor for many years. I loved the vertically flat screen, and excellent blacks compared to the lesser monitors my friends were using. I moved to Samsung 17" 191T afterwards, and finally a Dell 30" capable of 2560x1600. Now I'm thinking of either this 40" Dell or maybe the 40" LG.
This likes exactly what I have been looking for. However, the only thing I wanted it does not have is OLED
the current two OLED technologies are not great for text yet. TCLs True RGB OLED will be the one for programming.
never got into ultrawide or curved but loving my current 3x 4k 43" 16x9's 60/60/144 hz setup. and yes after being spoiled on these i cant work on anything less. had to have work get me something i could be comfortable on.
I've never seen a 43' monitor. I think I'd get tired walking back and forth to see everything.😉
@@JohnPMiller lol yeah i meant inch. i can never remember which symbol to use. ' seems more appropriate since it is less than '' . but 43" is not that far off now that we got 100+ inch and laser projectors. pretty sure 8k or 16 k would work well with a 516 inch screen.
I love the walk down memory lane. In college I ultra-splurged on a Mac II with the Apple Color Monitor (Trinitron) that was my go-to screen for many years. But it's rival was the NEC Multiscan which was also one of the best out there. As for curved screens, I daily drive two Samsung C34H89x, one for each Mac. They aren't anywhere in the class of the Dell you have but they work and my company paid for them for remote work (the offices have them too).
I remember going down to the local computer store (remember those) and plunking down $1050 for a NEC Multisync 17". This was back in the day when a dollar was still worth 50 cents. I never regretted the purchase, and there was no complaint from my wife once she saw the screen. The monitor you're reviewing is likely cheaper than the NEC after accounting for inflation. I wish I needed it.
Nice to see you had the U3818DW. My current monitor for two years now, using the KVM to connect to my 2012 12-Core Mac Pro 5,1, 2018 i7 Mac mini and my Lenovo work Laptop (connected via the HDMI through a Dell Dock). It it is hard for me to go into the office and use a 24" display ever again. I can do everything on this display. Thinking I will get that 40" to pair with an Mac Studio next year when I finally replace my 2018 mac mini
I have been running a U3419W for about two years now. It's hard to go back to dual 27" monitors at the office. Though I do have a 27" in portrait at home now I use mainly when working at the house. Thanks for the great content, Dave!
My final CRT was a "22 inch" Hitachi, it wasn't flat but it was capable of crazy-high refresh rates and weird high resolutions meant for radiology way beyond what my video card could handle with 3D acceleration. I did a 3-year lease-to-own deal on it so it cost like CDN$3600, and it was totally worth it.
Ive been using a Dell D3221QS, 32" 60hz curved 4k for 3 years or so now. I got it for work and after seeing it in person my boss got one for himself as well. I absolutely love this display for productivity work so i can just imagine how much better their new model is. 120hz is the only thing i wish this had. It sits above a trio of 360hz alienware monitors, and by comparison it feels "laggy" i guess is the best way to describe it
Dell has been making great monitors for years. I've always loved thier ultrasharp line.
Hi Dave,
I just got the new Dell U4025QW and connected it to my M1 Max MacBook Pro via Thunderbolt 4 using the cable that came with the monitor. The display is fantastic and a huge upgrade from my old U3818DW-thanks in part to your recommendation! However, I’m running into an issue: whenever I restart my Mac, all the monitor's ports briefly switch off and on once or twice. This causes any connected devices (like my backup drive and light bar) to disconnect and reconnect during the restart.
Both the monitor (firmware M3T103) and macOS (Sequoia 15.0.1) are fully updated. I was wondering if you've come across this or if you have any advice or workarounds.
Thanks for all the great content and insights!
Are you able to run it on 120Hz with M1 Max MacBook Pro via Thunderbolt 4?
I also believe bigger is better when it comes to monitors. I have 32 inch Dell that i use daily. I've considered moving to an even larger curved monitor and your video helped move me closer to making that leap. Thanks again for your good solid reviews!
I have it's predecessor, the U4021QW, using an earlier revision of this same panel, and it truly is the best monitor I've ever used.
The review starts at 12:45...
Wow your Amigas are in immaculate condition. Zero yellowing. Impressive.
Great review. I have a Dell HD curved 38” monitor about 5 years old. I may upgrade to the new 40”. Hopefully it will be better than the old one
I get and like your TV and movie references. Good work. Oh, and your content is excellent too. ;)
I agree with you regarding monitors, more pixels = better.
I currently have a 3 monitor setup.
Left: Dell U2713H 1440p
Centre: Dell U3219Q 4K
Right: Dell U2713H 1440p
Scaling in windows is set to 100%,