How Temperature Affects Electric Vehicle Range | Consumer Reports
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2022
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This is probably one of CRs best reports! Can't wait to checkout the full article online.
Finally someone is talking about this! I've lived in Alaska and I really wonder how EVs are doing up there. 16F? Try -30F!!
What's interesting is how far the official EPA EV range is out of whack with overall testing...
Thank you for this topic. As I live in NJ, we do have to deal with temperature extremes and I'm sure future battery technology will address this "problem". Meanwhile, the high initial costs of an EV will prohibit me from getting one for as long as necessary, as us older folks who are on fixed incomes will find that $45,000 and up for a vehicle is just too much to afford.
Tesla has dropped in price. May be you could checkout Model 3 RWD
85F is a hot day? That’s a decent coolish day in SoCal- 😅
Looks like they are testing in the Northern USA.... definitely not California
Hard to bring extreme desert heat to the D.C. area where CR is located. But it’s a great point. Would range start to suffer in 100F or 120 F conditions? Probably right?
This is great. The general rule of thumb posted by auto magazines, not Consumer Reports, was to expect in cold weather about 70 percent of the EPA range. This CR tests proves that number to be exactly correct. A 270 mile car range equals at 70 percent 189 miles - which is only 1 mile more than CR achieved. So your data matches what Car and Driver posted last year. I appreciate this as it tells me why getting an AWD electric car is a problem as my round trip to work is only 50 miles but if I need to do something after work I won't have the range to go much further on a charge. Why I felt at least 350 miles is needed for me to consider an electric car. Thank you!
Wait... I know this is old, but am I missing something here? If you have a car with 270 mile range (80 less than your "minimum"), in the winter time it will give you 188 miles. If your daily work commute is 50 miles total round trip (longer than most), that daily drive uses up 25% of your cold weather battery. That still leaves you with 130 miles of usable range.. Which is more than enough to "do something after work" and still "go much further" and then still make it home. Hell, even if you keep your battery only between 20-80%, after your daily commute, that's still 65 miles of free usable cold weather range to do whatever you want before you get home or to a charger. What exactly am I missing?
Real world example: The AWD Mach-E Extended Range is a 270 mile range car. It has a 91 kWh battery. Your daily cold weather commute uses 25% of that = 23 kWh. On a 7 kW super slow wall charger, that's an easy charge overnight. Doesn't seem so bad.
Do you _really_ drive in excess of 300km everyday, 6 days a week? An EV driver would charge the EV back to 100% charge upon returning home, whereby 524km of range becomes available the following morning.
Thank you. I like this format a lot more than the longer multi person talk show ones, keep up the great work!
Here in the middle east the summer temperatures hit 120F on average for 2 to 3 months
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I just took possession of my kia EV6 so this will be helpful for me thanks for the video
There are cold streaks in ND, SD with short drives there are many times you have to sit for your EV battery is warm enough to charge.
I would love for you to come here during a cold winter week and run fhe similar tests. There are many weeks where it is 0F and below with windchills -20F or below.
Hybrids also lose efficiency in cold weather. Their batteries don’t operate as well when cold. It’s crazy how over-optimistic the EPA rating for the Tesla is.
How about the battery degradation from winter to summer?
I'd like to see testing done on ease and reliability of DC fast charging. Which vehicle was the easiest and least stress inducing to charge across various temperatures, times of day, and locations?
I would like to see how a person can carry extra electricity vs already carrying extra gas for that just in case moment .
I live in the desert. What is the range when the ac is running full blast and I am on the interstate? I am sure range is not going up.
"85*F hot day in the middle of the summer" >.>' I live where it gets 110*F and have to drive in that!
What was the HVAC temp was set at during these tests?
Came here after seeing reports of EVs being stranged in sub freezing temps. So this issue still hasn't been fixed?!
A video on battery deterioration due to DC fast charging would also be interesting. We all know that battery life at Level 1 or 2 is maximized, but the high KW stations should only be used if absolutely necessary.
Have you done any testing in Southwest Summer? > 100 F. I have found my efficiency go way down.
RMPs are low on the highway for an internal combustion engine?
New ones? How about old ones with some miles on the battery?
Range is definitely miss leading. Battery capacity and depletion rate ( or efficiency rating)
My Mazda3 would get 35mpg in the summer and 25mpg in the winter. And it sucked because I couldn't preheat it while it was in my garage.
I never said only buy an ev. If you can afford one, buy one. If not, please try to get a hybrid. Just looking for positive solutions
Test may be faulty.
Shouldn't fill to 'full' every time. batteries degrade over time and I can only assume CR does more tests than only this one.
Should have filled them to a specific wattage on the car every time that's
Is there a way that this limit can be automatic for the consumer? Otherwise CR's full charge would be a reasonable example since most people will plug it in until morning and not run out to keep checking to make sure you don't exceed 95%.
Great, other than equipments, budgets, range, price, avaliable power grills now envirments are kikcking your EV vehical's asd. Drivers are users, not some scientists.
It sounds to me Hybrid is the way to go. Best of both worlds where you get the highway cruising sweet spot of gas cars, and the stop-go traffic in the city is where the electric car takes over.
PHEVs are pointless as the car still has a petrol engine, fuel and exhaust systems which are all complicated and expensive to maintain. The PHEV still requires petrol and scheduled engine maintenance. Moreover, if the PHEV has a parallel transmission then there will be a conventional gearbox - a complicated and expensive system - which has the usual shortcomings and required maintenance as well. A PHEV has double the complexity and more than twice the trouble of a petrol car, as the PHEV is a petrol car and EV all mushed into one strange Frankenstein car.
Do you _really_ drive in excess of 300km everyday, 6 days a week? An EV driver would charge the EV back to 100% charge upon returning home, whereby 524km of range becomes available the following morning.
How Temperature Affects . . . And no actual temperatures given.
What is Cold? 5 C?; -15 C?
Wow Tesla’s real world range is quite disappointing
I'm an EV owner and I won't give my EV up for any gas engine vehicle. Remember this technology isn't that old, we're barely out of the Model T stage of this technology. It isn't perfect....yet! But the battery technology is getting better and in another 20 years you will be hard pressed to find someone who wants to buy a gas guzzler. If you don't have a garage and home charger then you don't need an EV. Also if you're a one car family then you don't need an EV. If you're outside this list then you should definitely give an EV a try.
Sorry but EV's in the Northeast/Cold weather = NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you _really_ drive in excess of 300km everyday, 6 days a week? An EV driver would charge the EV back to 100% charge upon returning home, whereby 524km of range becomes available the following morning.
On a full tank of gas a car can idle for heat for over a day, longer if you cycle the engine on and off, EV's can't. Which can keep you alive until help comes. During the Christmas blizzard, 60 people died, 39 in Buffalo alone. Some of those people died in their cars. If everyone was forced to drive an EV, like they're proposing, that death toll would've been way higher
This means ev have no effect warm days so it is perfect for india
tester wears a rolex
EV range really doesn't matter for most people who use it to drive to work and back. Just plug it in when you get home and you will be fully charged everyday.
If that's all the driving you're doing, then why pay extra for an EV?
@@jeffw1267no gas cost
New Combustion tech will be on gasoline 160 mpg Hwy, 300 city, 240 combined. It has 100% brake recovery (compression is done by instead of motor/battery/battery/motor in EV, so 100% savings), CO2 capture for RE fuel making at home for 3 cents/kwh. An EV is 12 to 60 cents/kwh. or 4 to 20 times more energy costs. The CO2 can be used in a greenhouse or for dry ice for cold storage (-56C) and refrig in car. NO RANGE loss from 0 to 120 F due to thermal nature.
The range on gasoline is 10,000 miles Hwy, 18,750 city and 15,000 combined, which is 1 year of driving. Fill time for 62.5 gallons is 6.25 minutes. You can capture the CO2 and Save $1.5 for fuel making ($1/gal vs 2.5). This car is CO2 neutral with RE fuels, and 1/2 the CO2 (life cycle) of an EV on 100% RE when ran on gasoline.
EVs are obsolete in so many ways. Just a friendly hint...
Its a lot worse than Consumer Reports is admitting.
Anyone into EV and electric things like this, look at the story on You Tube Toxic Cost Of Going Green Unreported World. Then come back and tell me if the cost to humans and the area is worth it. So when you are driving around in your EV which has cobalt in it from DRC, think of the kid shuffling around in the dirt.
Yeah drilling for oil is so clean? Get serious
Your comment about Gasoline powered cars being "more efficient" than EVs on the highway is wrong. They are not "more efficient" than an EV, it's just that a gas vehicle and an EV are "comparably efficient on the highway". They both use the same amount of energy to push air out of the way. A gas car is no more efficient than an EV on the highway. It's just that an EV's efficiency is so much higher than a gas car in stop and go traffic (because of it's ability to recoup energy) that it makes it SEEM as if the EV is "inefficient" on the highway. Yes, an EV is far less efficient doing faster speeds than slow speeds, but so is a gas car. But the fact that there isn't any "stopping", you are eliminating the EV's strong point, it's magic bullet against the gas car. But to say it's less efficient than the gas car is wrong. It all comes down to a gas car having piss-poor efficiency to begin-with, and it gets better on the highway because of limited need for "acceleration". So, both cars have the same "efficiency on the highway" relative to eachother, it's just that because you are not braking as much, the EV has "less use" of it's secret weapon, to recoup energy, if it's traveling at a constant speed. Whereas the gas car is lacking the ability to "recoup", so it "appears" to shine, with highway driving, relative to the EV.
You misunderstood. He said an ICE car driving on the highway is more efficient (get better range/fuel economy) than an ICE car driving in the city.
Conversely EVs tend to have better range in the city than on the highway because of lower speeds, regen in stop and go traffic, etc
At low temperatures electric equipment and electronics starting to fail. I talk about starting from 5 and even 8 degrees Celsius. So tell me again how you went to the moon, how you sent Voyager? Talking about hostile space at minus 160 to minus 270 degrees Celsius. In what environment can test if astronaut survives when maximum we can get is minus 80.Same temperature where can run these tests is north pole. Where temperature is also about minus 80.Ok but Antarctica is populated with chemical, biological labs, top secret facility at North pole is nobody because is too cold, nobody can survive at minus 80.If proud people can't find a way to survive at minus 80 on our planet how they make someone survive at minus 160 degrees minimum in space. You lucky one landed on moon, want to come back to earth, no launching station cause you're the first in space, your fuel and engine probably completely frozen. Question - what you use to detach, to launch rocket or engine? I remember engines in the 70s in normal temperature with starter using crank, with loads of misfire or vehicle pulled by other vehicle or pushed by some people. With that we went to moon. Oh so question was what we use, rocket or engine. No matter what you use first need an atmosphere around space capsule landed on moon because combustion engine or rocket fuel need air to burn. Or frozen fuel is useless. So 70 years later nobody leaves earth. Now you know why. Including AI.
Stop buying EVS people.
Again you show dishonesty, you’re provided by Ford donation to skew the results. There is no way that you tested the Tesla 326 Miles range and give you 186. Unless you are testing a lower range car? Very disappointed
EVs should by law have temperature ranges attached to the vehicle at purchase point, then consumers can see range by cold/ mild/ hot temperatures as to real range of EV.
As it stands manufacturers only give information to best temperature to achieve best range rate to consumers which really is a disinformation of the truth of range over the spectrum.
Hows that cross country trip in a ev? Whats that you spent the whole time charging your shit car? Yeah thought so.
And if theoretically everyone was in the same boat, can you image the lines/wait times just to recharge so you could continue? (8 cars in line at each "station" X time = a real long trip.)
How many days a year do u drive more than 5 highway hours continuously?
@@blaineboyle5997considering I own a hotshot business, it’d be daily. My drivers typically drive 11 hour days at roughly 650-700 miles.