Hope you enjoyed folks! Apologies for a small edit error: we forgot to add the lower third listing range. For this Dual motor car it’s quoted at 313 miles / 505km. Anyhoo - what do you make of the EV9?
Just a question, but why don you give us give a peak at the energy consumption during the test? It may not be particularly scientific in terms of comparison with other cars due to changing conditions etc but most current EV drivers can account for that due to experience. Its far more important info than the exterior walkaround for instance.
Why would you bother? Way too heavy and can't do anything that an ICE version can do at a much lower price point imo. Yawn so much for saving the planet eh.
@@poplaurentiu4148 The issue with these start ups is, that you don't know how long/how they will support you in the next 10 years. Kia is an established brand that you can trust will exist in 10 years with shops arround the globe.
2.5 tonne towing capacity too! I know someone who claims they “Have” to drive a diesel pickup because they occasionally need to tow a two-tonne horsebox. Glad to see some vehicles capable of competing in that space starting to approach human-affordable prices (if not quite reaching them yet)
They've knocked this out of the park. Even the new Volvo EM90 won't be able to compete with this. Kia and Hyundai are really on top of their games now and market leaders in many ways. I have a 2021 Kona Electric and it's genuinely astoundingly good. I've even got a best of 314 miles from it and even in winter I've managed 301 miles.
I think the EX90 will be a massive hit. At about the same price, it looks more premium, nicer interior, better efficiency and sleeker. But I agree, for the family hauler, this might be your best bet.
Car didn’t look that big with Jack standing by it. But then I heard, at around 15 minutes in, he is about 6 foot 5 inches. That helps with perspective.
Yet again another reason why you guys are the best at reviewing EV brilliant videos, funny, informative and entertaining can't wait for the next keep the great work
@@senoow4215 this is definitely mid-sized for the American market, and it was a little funny to my American ears how many times he called it "impossibly colossal" and other superlatives :) I know size is all relative, but there are just so many significantly larger vehicles available in the US.
As always, very good video from you guys! Only thing that bugs me sometimes is that when Jack talks about the interior and points at something or says “this feels plasticky” the editor shows some unrelated b-roll so I’m left wondering what button actually feels plasticky :) other than that, beautiful production!
So looking forward to the arrival of the EV3 after this review, and the busted flush of the Volvo EX30. Thank you for giving us hope on a decent replacement for our amazing Kia E Niro. Come on Kia, you’re on a roll.
@@Kurre.The cramped back seat, the lack of physical buttons (we only really need 3 or 4, and they couldn't even do that), and placing the only screen dead-centre and NOT having a HUD is criminal while you're driving lol. Those three, simple things put me off from it. Everything else about the EX30 is perfect.
@@siviterit’s not a value for money thing, although I’m not convinced it is that brilliant when you think of the cost for the “essentials”. It’s more a case of a living with a car with just a “iPad”, very few buttons, no HUD and a below par boot. You’re paying for the brand more than a practical, safe vehicle. I really wanted to like it, and even put down a deposit after seeing it, but on watch all the driver reviews I have cooled considerably and we are likely to request the deposit back. Just disappointment following all the hype. Our present Kia E Niro has proved a revelation, but it is time to update, and the external design of the EX30 was very alluring and we thought we’d found the update, but internally the EX30 is far too Spartan and pared back. The Kia EV3 looks like it has what we want on paper and the spec of the EV9 shows us that Kia is moving forward with EV design, not just cutting costs under the disguise of supposed better internal design.
@@VenVile it doesn't have cramped back seats for that size of car, it's smaller than an MG 4! In regards to physical buttons, most of the controls they don't have are for set-and-forget settings anyway which are loaded to a user profile. I've had Mini's in the past so the centre Speedo doesn't bother me at all.
Recent event with EV association had plenty of people asking about 7 seater EV's, we told them the Kia EV9 was coming VERY soon. This is in Australia so assume it's launching not far from now downunder.
LOL yeah, well, it's not little, and this one car isn't going to make much of a difference to asthma. Problem is, we need lots of little cheap cars, but most of them are big and prohibitively expensive.
I'm glad Kia have sorted out their seats and comfort! I hired a Sportage just over a year ago and it crippled me as the seats were like sitting on a bag of concrete! I couldn't walk properly for two days afterwards! 😆
It definitely fills a spot in the market and will only help increase sales, but what I'd be more excited about is an actual MPV to elevate the Carnival. Volvo EM90 will make room for it, and an honest roomy and functional 6-seater with all captain's chairs would really move the needle.
"This massive 7 seater EV is what we all need. It’s great for the planet and on our pockets." Yep , but without the sarcasm - first EV I've seen that might tempt me to swap my old Range Rover for an EV.
Do you have kids ? Do your kids have friends ? Do you ever buy large items or take things to the local rubbish dump ? Yes, we do need vehicles of this size.
A really well filmed video, in a really nice location. Very informative and fun. EDIT: deleted a rant about speed limit beeps, people complaining about speed limits just tends to get to me :D
Excellent review with Jack in the Back finally getting all he could want in a SUV and he hates them 🙂.... As long as the residuals on this are good and the leasing cost is at the right level I will be replacing my current BMW iX with this right away .... iX is big and comfortable but no extra seats and a small, for its size, 500L boot ..... makes this a no brainer for my family with 3 Big teenage boys plus guest..... finally we can get to the airport with an EV with 5 suitcases and not be struggling .... Thanks Jack
Totally agree about the adjustable regent via paddles. Audi did that on the etron way back in 2018 and it is brilliant. I'm going to miss that when I change to Polestar next year 😕
Great video! However, there are in fact other options in this size range. Here in Denmark I know that the Maxxus Euniq5 is available with 7 seats and the Hongqi E-HS9 has been available for a bit and just dropped significantly in price. I thought the XPeng G9 might be in a similar category but I just checked and it seems they don't (yet?) offer it with 7 seats. Personally I think these things are over the top and am more excited to see more about the upcoming EV5 which looks like a little brother to this ;)
@@vocalscpunk Yeah, I probably would have gotten a Model X several years ago IF you could put a roof rack on it, but the silly back doors essentially prevent it. I don't want a trailer to take a kayak along.
I am trying to understand this aspect. I am an EV driver and I have infinite variation of regen depending on how far I lift my right foot. Why would you need additional adjustments?
I have had two different LEAF model years,2017 and 2019 all with ePedal- one pedal driving and I get what you are saying. Not necessary for me with that feature. I know someone with a Kia Niro EV that found out on slicker streets they had to adjust the regen to a lighter setting to keep from sliding on slick pavement. Jack' in the video used only the regen adjustments to go down a steep mountain grade to slow him down as needed for the changing grades and curves in the mountain road. More of a challenge really.@@MrAdopado
In North America, the EV9 is a dream; blame a car-obsessed culture and suburban sprawl, but they have their perks. I love the thought of road tripping with my family in an EV that has gobs of space, drives quietly and is loaded with helpful tech.
My first european driving experience was in Madrid, the biggest peugeot they made rented for me by our sales rep who would join me days later. Handed over to me by the rental agency double parked in rush hour traffic. Totally sympathetic with big cars in spain inducing excessive expletives.
Fabulous episode Jack and team, your thoughts on the size and space echo my own feedback and I've shared this with someone who's been waiting for it it land on the sal sac scheme. Hope those heated seats have defrosted you both :D
Great review. Going order the new one next year with an even bigger battery and performance. Nothing beats it in regards of looks/tech/price/practicality
I always love hearing the perspective of European reviewers of vehicles like this. “It’s huge”, “massive”, “behemoth”, “it’s just big”. In North America it’s not even that crazy 😂. I love the different perspectives.
Well done for not mentioning it being a tesla killer. Ironically, it probably is in the UK. We no longer have an RHD X, this is a lot cheaper, more spacious, has good charging, extra utility with V2L etc. I may well get one when it's been out a year or two.
I first played the "nerdy regen paddle game" a few years ago in the e-Niro when coming down from the Ardeche....about 30 minutes of descending, some very steep downhill and twisty bits but never needed to touch the brakes once. My 2019 e-Niro may look a bit 'old hat' now but with 92,000 km on the clock it been faultless so far.. setting up regen braking with paddles seems such a logical thing to do, not sure I could move now to an EV that didn't have it. This EV9 monster is way outside of what a retired couple like us need, not to mention way outside our budget but it looks to be a tour de force for Kia that will win a lot of new customers.
I'm not a fan of some of Kia's design choices, but I love the form factor. At the moment, my daily driver here in the U.S. is a Mustang Mach-E, but we've kept our Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid (PHEV) minivan for those times we need to convey 5 large adults or a lot of cargo. My plan is that, when my Mach-E's lease ends in 2026, I'll probably return it, retire the minivan, and replace them both with a single, 7-seater EV like this (or more probably the coming Ford entry into the segment).
That weight is insane imo. It's the biggest turnoff for me. I would only need the space/towing a couple times per year. But it is insane to lug around all year.
What an aerodynamic beauty. The wayward child in the road will doubtless welcome that final kiss to their skull from the EV9 driven by a flustered mother immersed in on-screen transcendence. Welcome to the past. Thoughts and prayers.
~300km of range, perhaps less on pure highway driving and even less in colder temps. Not sure if you'd want to put up with the frequent charging on an extended road trip!
@@Boomflame82 my bladder needs to stop more frequently than once every 240 ish miles. Also, I just took an 1800 mile road trip in a Niro EV; this would be a straight upgrade. Edit: also it's 300 miles, not km.
Great review but let's hope limited numbers of these sell as way too big for most people's needs and size of modern carparks 😂 Maybe good for airport transfers??
Giggle all you like about those flimsy cup holders, but I've had them in my almost 5-year old Niro EV and that is the most versatile cup holder design I've ever seen in a car. If Kia gets one thing right - it's that they understand the average consumer.
15:24 Model X falcon wing doors solve this. So many people wrongly think they're just a "look at me" feature. But they're actually quit practical and improve so many things about a large SUV.
Love your presentation and the photography. You are one of the best , pragmatic and entertaining. Beautiful vehicle, perfect for our life style with boys and big dog , and long drives in Ontario and Quebec (Canada). As for the cold , come over to Canada in January or February and enjoy the winter and snow
Its pretty amazing how Kia could go from a budget brand to the leading ev-producer so fast. Compare ev6 to any of the Teslas, ev6 is superior in almost every aspect. The just make terrific and gorgeous cars these days.
Good timing for the video, just got my first add for it yesterday here in Nova Scotia the two wheel drive starting ar $59,995 Canadian dollars eh! Nice bus.
Fully Charged Team, Another great video on driving electric. When will we see an electric cabriolet? Imagine yourself driving quietly with the rooftop open to listen to the birds in the forest you drive through.
From what I hear the concept of fully-charging is not actually good for your EV… maybe re-name the Team to ’80% capacity team’… just an idea to stay ahead guys!
Is it me or did I hear bespoke architecture mentioned a couple of times there ? Maybe trying to flog this brick to the Chelsea tractor brigade a little over enthusiastically. I love the EV6 sticking a sofa inside a block of flats doesn't excite me at all.😳
I sold my Gen 3 F-150 Raptor for this. Feels nice to be driving a compact run-about again 😅 I will say though, big EV's like this are what is needed to get silly people like me over to electric vehicles. I can tow with it (over shorter distances), I can use it for camping, me and the missus can easily sleep in the back of it, and I just love how it looks.
nice review and car. nicer if review compared this to the Model Y side by side. While the base EV9 might not be available for a while, its price is not far from a Model Y LR.
Yea. But you can easily find the WLTP range if you Google it I guess. And then the actual real word range just depends on your driving style and the conditions.. judging from the looks it does not look very aerodynamic though…
@alexandersaksvoll5373 you sure can but I'm not watching review of the car just to then have to go and look for such basic most important information that should be in the video.
And.. Only 1 point against ICE cars, which is temporary. Also not testing anything related to "go anywhere" bit. Stick to asphalt where this belongs, which is permanent.
I think it should be this way ideally. Maybe a footnote, but it’s not like ICE car reviews bang on about how many miles you get in a tank. EV range is a bit of a distraction, most of them are pretty similar so more interesting to focus on the rest of the car.
Surpasses. The X is useless for an active lifestyle because it won't take a roof rack, and you can't fold the second row seats flat. We bought a Model Y to replace our Santa Fe XL and it mostly works, but the kids will outgrow its third row pretty quickly and we've had to downsize our camping gear. This would have been perfect had it come out a year ago.
In Australia this car is $130K (AUD) plus On Road Costs (not to mention insurance) that is a ludicrous amount of money for a Kia even allowing for the fact that is it an EV. At 2.6 tonnes it is one of the heaviest "light vehicles" on Australian roads and therefore putting a lot of strain on our roads. It is very hard to see the value in car of this size or cost as a planet saver. A cheap (around $30K AUD) run around for the daily school run, the park and ride, the gym and so on is what is needed not small tanks like this. I'm sure it is well made and has all the bells and whistles but people who buy a Kia Cerrato or Picanto (for example) are not the customers who plonk down $130K on this car. Imagine what the battery cost and replacement cost would be in the event of an accident.
I deff have to agree with you with the 3 level regen had a niro love it. also seeing your review vs other has made me feel the price of the vehical is actually worth it
Just found out this probably won’t make it to the US and I’m devastated. This thing would dominate the American EV market with its massive size and low price
What a great show. I really enjoyed that, thank you. Can’t believe (well I can actually) that in the Netherlands they are soon to ban diesel and petrol boats. Meanwhile in the UK……
Finally! A car for those of us who live in the boonies! Now if only they’d make a 5 seat version with at least 50% of the bling left out to bring the cost down. Practically, not luxury! Oh, true fwd would be nice too.
There need to be more estate / MPV EVs. Affordable ones as well. No idea what the EV9 will be when it hits the dealers but I bet it won't be cheap. Needs MG to augment the MG5 perhaps with something a bit bigger perhaps without screwing people on price.
It is so sad, for a Spanish, to see in the introduction , how some unpolite people have spoiled the traffic signal that shows the altitude road doing some vandalic graffitis on it, On the other hand, a great video of a big and great car , congratulations from Spain.
I guess "basically no competition whatsoever" means don't worry about the Rivian R1S that will already have been out for months(?year) by the time this is actually available. Maybe you're referring to what's available in the EU/UK?
Can't wait to get mine in a couple of months. And I promise to you all, the first thing I'll do is to remove all the plastics around the frunk and see what's there. It's ridiculous my Tesla X frunk is 180 liters and KIA only managed to squeeze mere 52 (in AWD models) liters.
@JackScarlett1 Another fantastic review. Not a car for me but I'm excited to see the accelerating pace the Koreans have been on; if only the Japanese car makers would figure it out and catch up.
This vehicle is just too big, how many European roads can cope with a vehicle of this size? Surely destined for the US market, you can’t fault the thought process behind the design, it has some really interesting ideas. How efficient was it, no mention of how efficient it was in the cold mountains that is a big heavy vehicle to haul itself up those mountains?
Agree it's huge for Europe unless you live in the sticks. North America and Australia will lap it up! Efficiency when driving up a very cold mountain full of kit was 1.5 - 2 miles per kwh. We saw over 3 miles per kwh doing more normal driving, which is about as good as you'd expect for a car like this
How tall are you Jack? Everytime you express the astronomical proportions of this car, I can't help but notice that you make the car look tiny standing next to it!
excellent video and an impressive car. The front storage space seems somewhat underwhelming when you look at the sheer size of the bonnet and think about the massive space in the Ford Lightning.
Hope you enjoyed folks! Apologies for a small edit error: we forgot to add the lower third listing range. For this Dual motor car it’s quoted at 313 miles / 505km.
Anyhoo - what do you make of the EV9?
I think they've nailed the brief. The R1S is probably its closest competitor, then the Model X.
Just a question, but why don you give us give a peak at the energy consumption during the test? It may not be particularly scientific in terms of comparison with other cars due to changing conditions etc but most current EV drivers can account for that due to experience. Its far more important info than the exterior walkaround for instance.
Why would you bother?
Way too heavy and can't do anything that an ICE version can do at a much lower price point imo.
Yawn so much for saving the planet eh.
I sat in it, It is gorgeous. I would like to have one in black with chrome spinner wheels
Hang on. 820 litres boot capacity with the seats down? So it's half the size of a Ford Focus estate is it? Think you got that a bit wrong Jack.
Every time I see new Kia cars I'm astonished. They found some awesome designers and I'm all for it
Ye, I agree. Came on this video just to see how good this car looks :)
Kia's current Chief Designer, Karim Habib, spent his career prior to 2019 working for BMW, Daimler, and Infiniti.
Yeah they basically hired top designers from other brands including super car designers
This is when car companies don't let their engineers do the design.
let's see what hyundai can do
Have to admit. Kia have released a banger.
So did Rivian R1S or Hummer ev-SUV..
So Kia has just released a new car that is so junky that you'll always be tinkering with it?
@@poplaurentiu4148 The issue with these start ups is, that you don't know how long/how they will support you in the next 10 years. Kia is an established brand that you can trust will exist in 10 years with shops arround the globe.
BIG boy Jack is so good at reviewing cars, LOVE watching him.
2.5 tonne towing capacity too! I know someone who claims they “Have” to drive a diesel pickup because they occasionally need to tow a two-tonne horsebox. Glad to see some vehicles capable of competing in that space starting to approach human-affordable prices (if not quite reaching them yet)
And what do you think is going to happen to the range when towing a 2.5 tonne box?
It will be bad, but even here in the US or Canada most people don't tow that far anyway.
Why make it hard on yourself - I’d get a diesel for towing
And a small ev for town
Depends how far you need to tow....
Depending on electricity prices or if you got solar at home the upfron cost might be higher but youd make up for that over time
They've knocked this out of the park. Even the new Volvo EM90 won't be able to compete with this. Kia and Hyundai are really on top of their games now and market leaders in many ways.
I have a 2021 Kona Electric and it's genuinely astoundingly good. I've even got a best of 314 miles from it and even in winter I've managed 301 miles.
I think the EX90 will be a massive hit. At about the same price, it looks more premium, nicer interior, better efficiency and sleeker. But I agree, for the family hauler, this might be your best bet.
Car didn’t look that big with Jack standing by it. But then I heard, at around 15 minutes in, he is about 6 foot 5 inches. That helps with perspective.
I canceled my preorder for the EV9. The UK dealer experience for Kia is absolutely diabolical both pre and post sale.
I am amazed that it could fit 6 Jack's in and all quite comfortably!
It was really great to see that KIA managed to put a frunk in front. Storage space is always appreciated on large people carriers like this.
Yes, especially if travelling as a family of 6.
Yet again another reason why you guys are the best at reviewing EV brilliant videos, funny, informative and entertaining can't wait for the next keep the great work
I'd argue they are a bit overly positive about everything but good production and fun to watch
this is a god send for 7 seater fans in ev. Not only practical but looks gorgeous
It's a almost a tiny house on wheels that thing. I'm sure it will sell well here in the States, especially when it is integrated with Supercharging.
it will be sold as a ¨medium size SUV¨ in the States haha
@@senoow4215 this is definitely mid-sized for the American market, and it was a little funny to my American ears how many times he called it "impossibly colossal" and other superlatives :) I know size is all relative, but there are just so many significantly larger vehicles available in the US.
@@mroatman yeah but for the size, u don't get a more practical ev today, pricing seems far better to than expected
@@senoow4215 absolutely true. The pricing really depends on the market, but in the US, the value is extremely good.
As always, very good video from you guys! Only thing that bugs me sometimes is that when Jack talks about the interior and points at something or says “this feels plasticky” the editor shows some unrelated b-roll so I’m left wondering what button actually feels plasticky :) other than that, beautiful production!
So looking forward to the arrival of the EV3 after this review, and the busted flush of the Volvo EX30. Thank you for giving us hope on a decent replacement for our amazing Kia E Niro. Come on Kia, you’re on a roll.
How is the EX30 a busted flush? Name a better value for money EV?
Really dont get what people hade against the EX30
@@Kurre.The cramped back seat, the lack of physical buttons (we only really need 3 or 4, and they couldn't even do that), and placing the only screen dead-centre and NOT having a HUD is criminal while you're driving lol.
Those three, simple things put me off from it. Everything else about the EX30 is perfect.
@@siviterit’s not a value for money thing, although I’m not convinced it is that brilliant when you think of the cost for the “essentials”. It’s more a case of a living with a car with just a “iPad”, very few buttons, no HUD and a below par boot. You’re paying for the brand more than a practical, safe vehicle. I really wanted to like it, and even put down a deposit after seeing it, but on watch all the driver reviews I have cooled considerably and we are likely to request the deposit back. Just disappointment following all the hype.
Our present Kia E Niro has proved a revelation, but it is time to update, and the external design of the EX30 was very alluring and we thought we’d found the update, but internally the EX30 is far too Spartan and pared back. The Kia EV3 looks like it has what we want on paper and the spec of the EV9 shows us that Kia is moving forward with EV design, not just cutting costs under the disguise of supposed better internal design.
@@VenVile it doesn't have cramped back seats for that size of car, it's smaller than an MG 4! In regards to physical buttons, most of the controls they don't have are for set-and-forget settings anyway which are loaded to a user profile. I've had Mini's in the past so the centre Speedo doesn't bother me at all.
Recent event with EV association had plenty of people asking about 7 seater EV's, we told them the Kia EV9 was coming VERY soon. This is in Australia so assume it's launching not far from now downunder.
Nice one Jack, glad I'm not the only one who plays the "regen" game on downhills!! Horrible monster of a car, but if you need the space, fine.
Some really amazing shots and video editing in this one. Congrats to the full team
Love the high end cinematic look, more videos styled this way, please! Great content as always! If not a secret, what cameras were used for shooting?
Sony A7S always. We had a lot more time for this shoot than we usually do (thee days instead of one/half) and I'm glad it showed in the end result!
Always happy to see a little school run car that won't give kids asthma.
Little?
LOL yeah, well, it's not little, and this one car isn't going to make much of a difference to asthma. Problem is, we need lots of little cheap cars, but most of them are big and prohibitively expensive.
You do understand sarcasm I hope..
A lekky bus
Oh it's toxic - Luton airport toxic - but you're not likely to heat about that on this channel
This is at the top of my list for my first EV, love the design and everything I am seeing on this so far, great video!
Damn Jack this is swaying me, now to convince the minster of finance(wife)that we need this lol
I'm more into the small, affordable cars at the moment. I still watched i it, because i know Jack is giving us a good time 😂😂❤❤
This is my dream car. It's stunning. I'm not surprised you loved it. Great Review 👌
I want one. It looks absolutely amazing.
Great commentary! Always a pleasure to listen Jack
I'm glad Kia have sorted out their seats and comfort! I hired a Sportage just over a year ago and it crippled me as the seats were like sitting on a bag of concrete! I couldn't walk properly for two days afterwards! 😆
It definitely fills a spot in the market and will only help increase sales, but what I'd be more excited about is an actual MPV to elevate the Carnival. Volvo EM90 will make room for it, and an honest roomy and functional 6-seater with all captain's chairs would really move the needle.
This massive 7 seater EV is what we all need. It’s great for the planet and on our pockets.
LOL. Love your sarcasm 😀
"This massive 7 seater EV is what we all need. It’s great for the planet and on our pockets." Yep , but without the sarcasm - first EV I've seen that might tempt me to swap my old Range Rover for an EV.
For 'murica.
The better to pay off our CCP masters and trim back on car ownership amongst the peasants.
Do you have kids ? Do your kids have friends ? Do you ever buy large items or take things to the local rubbish dump ? Yes, we do need vehicles of this size.
Maybe the vw ID buzz would be a good competitor, although I would go for this one any day!
A really well filmed video, in a really nice location. Very informative and fun. EDIT: deleted a rant about speed limit beeps, people complaining about speed limits just tends to get to me :D
Would love to see a comparison between this and the Rivian R1S, the size of them seem to be pretty similar
The R1S has less action limiting beeps and felt a lot more sturdy on the road, especially for its size.
Excellent review with Jack in the Back finally getting all he could want in a SUV and he hates them 🙂.... As long as the residuals on this are good and the leasing cost is at the right level I will be replacing my current BMW iX with this right away .... iX is big and comfortable but no extra seats and a small, for its size, 500L boot ..... makes this a no brainer for my family with 3 Big teenage boys plus guest..... finally we can get to the airport with an EV with 5 suitcases and not be struggling .... Thanks Jack
I love the iX but this is infinitely more practical. You'll love it!
Totally agree about the adjustable regent via paddles. Audi did that on the etron way back in 2018 and it is brilliant.
I'm going to miss that when I change to Polestar next year 😕
Great video! However, there are in fact other options in this size range. Here in Denmark I know that the Maxxus Euniq5 is available with 7 seats and the Hongqi E-HS9 has been available for a bit and just dropped significantly in price.
I thought the XPeng G9 might be in a similar category but I just checked and it seems they don't (yet?) offer it with 7 seats.
Personally I think these things are over the top and am more excited to see more about the upcoming EV5 which looks like a little brother to this ;)
This is a freaking van. With a bonnet.
This was on my short list but the Rivian R1S was available much sooner so that's what we got!
Right - weird that he thinks the EV9 has "basically no competition whatsoever" when they're not even the first EV SUV with 7 seats out...
@@vocalscpunk Yeah, I probably would have gotten a Model X several years ago IF you could put a roof rack on it, but the silly back doors essentially prevent it. I don't want a trailer to take a kayak along.
Good job Jack and I agree about the regen adjustments are good tools for the driver!
I am trying to understand this aspect. I am an EV driver and I have infinite variation of regen depending on how far I lift my right foot. Why would you need additional adjustments?
I have had two different LEAF model years,2017 and 2019 all with ePedal- one pedal driving and I get what you are saying. Not necessary for me with that feature. I know someone with a Kia Niro EV that found out on slicker streets they had to adjust the regen to a lighter setting to keep from sliding on slick pavement. Jack' in the video used only the regen adjustments to go down a steep mountain grade to slow him down as needed for the changing grades and curves in the mountain road. More of a challenge really.@@MrAdopado
In North America, the EV9 is a dream; blame a car-obsessed culture and suburban sprawl, but they have their perks. I love the thought of road tripping with my family in an EV that has gobs of space, drives quietly and is loaded with helpful tech.
Thanks for the review, I have been waiting for this one! Making my decisions harder.
I love it! I want one. I bet it tows well too. Very funny, funny bits. Awesome video
My first european driving experience was in Madrid, the biggest peugeot they made rented for me by our sales rep who would join me days later. Handed over to me by the rental agency double parked in rush hour traffic. Totally sympathetic with big cars in spain inducing excessive expletives.
Fabulous episode Jack and team, your thoughts on the size and space echo my own feedback and I've shared this with someone who's been waiting for it it land on the sal sac scheme. Hope those heated seats have defrosted you both :D
Great review. Going order the new one next year with an even bigger battery and performance. Nothing beats it in regards of looks/tech/price/practicality
John Cadogan has just roasted it. He has a point.
This was awesome. I loved when the wind closed the door on him. lol
I always love hearing the perspective of European reviewers of vehicles like this. “It’s huge”, “massive”, “behemoth”, “it’s just big”. In North America it’s not even that crazy 😂. I love the different perspectives.
Well done for not mentioning it being a tesla killer. Ironically, it probably is in the UK. We no longer have an RHD X, this is a lot cheaper, more spacious, has good charging, extra utility with V2L etc. I may well get one when it's been out a year or two.
Who would ever want a Tesla when you could have this?
Would this be fine on UK roads, I get the impression the UK roads aren't that spacious either or am I mistaken?
That was on pretty epic appearance!
I first played the "nerdy regen paddle game" a few years ago in the e-Niro when coming down from the Ardeche....about 30 minutes of descending, some very steep downhill and twisty bits but never needed to touch the brakes once. My 2019 e-Niro may look a bit 'old hat' now but with 92,000 km on the clock it been faultless so far.. setting up regen braking with paddles seems such a logical thing to do, not sure I could move now to an EV that didn't have it. This EV9 monster is way outside of what a retired couple like us need, not to mention way outside our budget but it looks to be a tour de force for Kia that will win a lot of new customers.
I'm not a fan of some of Kia's design choices, but I love the form factor. At the moment, my daily driver here in the U.S. is a Mustang Mach-E, but we've kept our Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid (PHEV) minivan for those times we need to convey 5 large adults or a lot of cargo. My plan is that, when my Mach-E's lease ends in 2026, I'll probably return it, retire the minivan, and replace them both with a single, 7-seater EV like this (or more probably the coming Ford entry into the segment).
I prefer the look of this over the explorer.
Kia kills the belated Cybertruck. Prettier, better and is actually in production. 😂❤
The competitor to the EV9 would be the Tesla Model X, not a pickup!
2.6 tons of planet saving irony in a package
That weight is insane imo. It's the biggest turnoff for me. I would only need the space/towing a couple times per year. But it is insane to lug around all year.
TBH, I had a difficult time focusing on the review because I was distracted by that excellent coat Jack was wearing. I want that coat! :D
I drove the new Kona a few weeks ago. That also beeped at me whenever I ever so slightly got over the speed limit. It was infuriating.
really nice design, can't wait to get my hands on one.
New Fully Charged Show drinking game: Everyone do a shot each time someone says "bespoke EV architecture!"
That's one way to get shitfaced
This car is a 10/10, brawler move from Kia! Really happy to see Kia on top of their game.
This thing looks like it’d be a smash hit with us, your friends across the pond. Ultimate soccer mom EV right here.
What an aerodynamic beauty. The wayward child in the road will doubtless welcome that final kiss to their skull from the EV9 driven by a flustered mother immersed in on-screen transcendence. Welcome to the past. Thoughts and prayers.
I would love to rent one of these for a road trip. Definitely too big to be a daily driver for me.
~300km of range, perhaps less on pure highway driving and even less in colder temps. Not sure if you'd want to put up with the frequent charging on an extended road trip!
@@Boomflame82 my bladder needs to stop more frequently than once every 240 ish miles. Also, I just took an 1800 mile road trip in a Niro EV; this would be a straight upgrade.
Edit: also it's 300 miles, not km.
@@andrewdyjach7305 I was going by the caption in the video of 3.3 km/kwh
Great review but let's hope limited numbers of these sell as way too big for most people's needs and size of modern carparks 😂 Maybe good for airport transfers??
Giggle all you like about those flimsy cup holders, but I've had them in my almost 5-year old Niro EV and that is the most versatile cup holder design I've ever seen in a car. If Kia gets one thing right - it's that they understand the average consumer.
fair play!
15:24 Model X falcon wing doors solve this. So many people wrongly think they're just a "look at me" feature. But they're actually quit practical and improve so many things about a large SUV.
Minivans with sliding doors are better. Kia needs an EV Carnival.
Love your presentation and the photography. You are one of the best , pragmatic and entertaining. Beautiful vehicle, perfect for our life style with boys and big dog , and long drives in Ontario and Quebec (Canada). As for the cold , come over to Canada in January or February and enjoy the winter and snow
Its pretty amazing how Kia could go from a budget brand to the leading ev-producer so fast. Compare ev6 to any of the Teslas, ev6 is superior in almost every aspect. The just make terrific and gorgeous cars these days.
I wouldn't need a car this size but I love the look of it
It’s amazing how fast you fill up a car when you have 2 kids, a dog and their stuff.
Good timing for the video, just got my first add for it yesterday here in Nova Scotia the two wheel drive starting ar $59,995 Canadian dollars eh! Nice bus.
For UK readers - that converts to just over £35500 (but I bet it is nearer £50k here)
Fully Charged Team, Another great video on driving electric. When will we see an electric cabriolet? Imagine yourself driving quietly with the rooftop open to listen to the birds in the forest you drive through.
From what I hear the concept of fully-charging is not actually good for your EV… maybe re-name the Team to ’80% capacity team’… just an idea to stay ahead guys!
Is it me or did I hear bespoke architecture mentioned a couple of times there ?
Maybe trying to flog this brick to the Chelsea tractor brigade a little over enthusiastically.
I love the EV6 sticking a sofa inside a block of flats doesn't excite me at all.😳
I sold my Gen 3 F-150 Raptor for this. Feels nice to be driving a compact run-about again 😅 I will say though, big EV's like this are what is needed to get silly people like me over to electric vehicles. I can tow with it (over shorter distances), I can use it for camping, me and the missus can easily sleep in the back of it, and I just love how it looks.
I've never wanted a Kia or an 7 seater SUV. But holy shit this car is exactly what a car should be in 2023.
Thank you.
I love Jack's review about cars ❤
nice review and car. nicer if review compared this to the Model Y side by side. While the base EV9 might not be available for a while, its price is not far from a Model Y LR.
THANKS FOR FINALLY EASING UP ON THE LOUD MUSIC.
What I think it's outrageous is that you can make entire video about electric car without mentioning what is the range even once.
Scared.
Yea. But you can easily find the WLTP range if you Google it I guess. And then the actual real word range just depends on your driving style and the conditions.. judging from the looks it does not look very aerodynamic though…
@alexandersaksvoll5373 you sure can but I'm not watching review of the car just to then have to go and look for such basic most important information that should be in the video.
And.. Only 1 point against ICE cars, which is temporary. Also not testing anything related to "go anywhere" bit. Stick to asphalt where this belongs, which is permanent.
I think it should be this way ideally. Maybe a footnote, but it’s not like ICE car reviews bang on about how many miles you get in a tank. EV range is a bit of a distraction, most of them are pretty similar so more interesting to focus on the rest of the car.
Looks good and great production of the video.
Ahoy Jack! Nice to see you again this soon! I bet this car rivals even the Model X!
Surpasses. The X is useless for an active lifestyle because it won't take a roof rack, and you can't fold the second row seats flat. We bought a Model Y to replace our Santa Fe XL and it mostly works, but the kids will outgrow its third row pretty quickly and we've had to downsize our camping gear. This would have been perfect had it come out a year ago.
@@KevinT3141Thanks for the insight, very valuable!
In Australia this car is $130K (AUD) plus On Road Costs (not to mention insurance) that is a ludicrous amount of money for a Kia even allowing for the fact that is it an EV. At 2.6 tonnes it is one of the heaviest "light vehicles" on Australian roads and therefore putting a lot of strain on our roads. It is very hard to see the value in car of this size or cost as a planet saver. A cheap (around $30K AUD) run around for the daily school run, the park and ride, the gym and so on is what is needed not small tanks like this. I'm sure it is well made and has all the bells and whistles but people who buy a Kia Cerrato or Picanto (for example) are not the customers who plonk down $130K on this car. Imagine what the battery cost and replacement cost would be in the event of an accident.
Go watch what John Cordogan said about it. He's an Aussie independent Auto Journalist.
I have watched his video but thanks for refering me to it.@@Melbourne-s4x
Hey Jack. Love your work 👍
I deff have to agree with you with the 3 level regen had a niro love it. also seeing your review vs other has made me feel the price of the vehical is actually worth it
Just found out this probably won’t make it to the US and I’m devastated. This thing would dominate the American EV market with its massive size and low price
What a great show. I really enjoyed that, thank you. Can’t believe (well I can actually) that in the Netherlands they are soon to ban diesel and petrol boats. Meanwhile in the UK……
That’s a proper wow!
Finally! A car for those of us who live in the boonies! Now if only they’d make a 5 seat version with at least 50% of the bling left out to bring the cost down. Practically, not luxury! Oh, true fwd would be nice too.
Wait for the ev7
Leave those funny edits in - love it
There need to be more estate / MPV EVs. Affordable ones as well. No idea what the EV9 will be when it hits the dealers but I bet it won't be cheap. Needs MG to augment the MG5 perhaps with something a bit bigger perhaps without screwing people on price.
It is so sad, for a Spanish, to see in the introduction , how some unpolite people have spoiled the traffic signal that shows the altitude road doing some vandalic graffitis on it,
On the other hand, a great video of a big and great car , congratulations from Spain.
I guess "basically no competition whatsoever" means don't worry about the Rivian R1S that will already have been out for months(?year) by the time this is actually available. Maybe you're referring to what's available in the EU/UK?
Often times is one word too many.
Seems like a nice fella.
Can't wait to get mine in a couple of months. And I promise to you all, the first thing I'll do is to remove all the plastics around the frunk and see what's there. It's ridiculous my Tesla X frunk is 180 liters and KIA only managed to squeeze mere 52 (in AWD models) liters.
Volvo EM90, Lucid Gravity, KIA EV9 everyone popping up with the 7 seater at once.
I really do like this KIA Jack, but you should test drive the NIO ES8. Ask Elliot about it. Thanks for all of your hard work sir.
@JackScarlett1 Another fantastic review. Not a car for me but I'm excited to see the accelerating pace the Koreans have been on; if only the Japanese car makers would figure it out and catch up.
This vehicle is just too big, how many European roads can cope with a vehicle of this size? Surely destined for the US market, you can’t fault the thought process behind the design, it has some really interesting ideas. How efficient was it, no mention of how efficient it was in the cold mountains that is a big heavy vehicle to haul itself up those mountains?
Agree it's huge for Europe unless you live in the sticks. North America and Australia will lap it up!
Efficiency when driving up a very cold mountain full of kit was 1.5 - 2 miles per kwh. We saw over 3 miles per kwh doing more normal driving, which is about as good as you'd expect for a car like this
@@JackScarlett1 2 miles per kWh going up the mountain is excellent. Going back down you would probably have 999 miles per kWh showing!
It's not huge, just longer.
How tall are you Jack? Everytime you express the astronomical proportions of this car, I can't help but notice that you make the car look tiny standing next to it!
Jack, I love the Mickey Mouse ears that you appear to have on the thumbnail/front screen shot for this video!
excellent video and an impressive car. The front storage space seems somewhat underwhelming when you look at the sheer size of the bonnet and think about the massive space in the Ford Lightning.
When going downhill like down a mountain, i use the ACC (cruise control) to adjust regen, a lot simpler