Doug I truly appreciate your knowledge of what you need for any turbo application. Motion Race Works for the first and last place you need to get your set ups. Awesome content 👍😊🤟👍🤙💯🤣☝️💨🔥🙏🤜🤛👏
Great video, Doug! A few things I think would have made it even better: 1. Show the internals of the wastegates when explaining how they function. 2. Explain flow priority and ideally show an example. 3. Show Turbosmart's wastegate position sensor, and why that data may be useful.
Hello from Japan , We use a 38 pie and smaller for up to 1.2-1.3 Bar boost ,,, 50 pie waste gate for all out racing up to 2.2-2.4 Bar boost ... Then 60 pie would be all out drag racing .... Only difference to this is twin turbo - twin waste gate and what waste gate spring you use . If you don't have a variable boost controller . Then you need the waste gate spring that sets the boost to the level you choose to achieve .
I need help. My first time setting up a turbo. I bought a used turbo kit that came with a 44 mm precision wastegate. My question is do I need to use the top port on the Westgate or can it be left as is open. The Westgate only has one banjo that screws onto the side. I believe this is used for boost control. The top port (hole) is left open and does not have anything screwed in. I don’t know if my set up was used that way. Do I need to plug the top port or Can it be left alone, as is?
And the best place and way to mount a turbo because everyone has their own personal preference whether it be out the grille and forward facing or right at the grille and side facing or behind the engine near the firewall and how to clock the turbo for the best oil drain and so on
2003 mercury grand marquis 4.6 Adding a GT45 turbo 7psi #1What size waste gate should I go with? #2 I do have a tial waste gate on the shelf, how do I measure it to know what size it is?
I had to stop the video shortly after starting, an oversized wastegate is not going to overboost your engine. Having a spring in your wastegate that is higher than your desired boost will over boost your engine. An oversized wastegate means your controller might have to be tuned more precise to open at the correct time/psi in order to maintain the desired boost. Having a wastegate smaller than necessary will definitely lead to boost creep and over boost situations because it cannot bypass enough exhaust gases away from the turbo.
I was wondering about that since a wastegate, as far as spooling the turbo is concerned, is just a controlled exhaust leak so the issue would seem to be difficulty controlling the "leak" enough to maintain the desired turbo rpm and thus boost as with a big gate small movements equal large changes in the amount of exhaust being diverted were a smaller gate would be easier to control.
To be Honest we don't see a whole lot of failures as a result of that. One of the biggest concerns there is that having the sensor away from the gate very far will change and slow down feed back for the boost controller. We do make a nice remote mount sensor if you are doing so, but we would recommend mounting it fairly close to the gate.
Great explanation. I've been experiencing overboosting after I installed a more efficient intercooler. It's only happens in full throttle. I have a 38mm wastegate. Do you have any idea what could possibly cause overboosting after my intercooler upgrade? Any input would greatly help. Thanks
If I want just spring pressure I leave the top hole open? Only vacuum from intake manifold to the lower hole? I have the same design as the precision one
Austin Sarver it’s a little less relevant with co2 pressure, however, you still can. It can require you to run 2:1, 3:1 + pressure on the dome which most wastegates you can blow diaphragms on and run into other issues doing so
The Best Wastegates on this planet were from Turbonetics !!! ! !!! But now i think they sold themselfs , because they were Too Cheap for such high qualitiy wastegates !!! ! !!!
Doug I truly appreciate your knowledge of what you need for any turbo application. Motion Race Works for the first and last place you need to get your set ups. Awesome content 👍😊🤟👍🤙💯🤣☝️💨🔥🙏🤜🤛👏
Doug is the go to guy at motion, I've heard many a you tuber mention this man.
Great video, Doug! A few things I think would have made it even better:
1. Show the internals of the wastegates when explaining how they function.
2. Explain flow priority and ideally show an example.
3. Show Turbosmart's wastegate position sensor, and why that data may be useful.
Mike, those are great ideas! I might do a follow up video with some of these!
When taking gates apart use a set of long screws to relieve the springs
Hello from Japan , We use a 38 pie and smaller for up to 1.2-1.3 Bar boost ,,, 50 pie waste gate for all out racing up to 2.2-2.4 Bar boost ... Then 60 pie would be all out drag racing .... Only difference to this is twin turbo - twin waste gate and what waste gate spring you use . If you don't have a variable boost controller . Then you need the waste gate spring that sets the boost to the level you choose to achieve .
Funny how this popped on my suggestion after the bigger turbo video
i liked how the ups truck wobbled
Thanks Doug! Keep up the awesome work!
appreciate the feeback!
How about a single Mac valve and non c02 system? Any recommendations on how to plumb? Seen several different ways🤷♂️
I heard a dog in the background. Nice. I rescue and currently have 6 rescues I adopted. Owning a dog helps me completely trust your video👍
What does that have to do with this video 🤦♂️
@@jtmoneyz0216 Everything!
Can you do a video on how to run all the vacuum lines for the whole turbo set up on the motor
There are already so many on this topic, you can't seriously say that we need more of it.
I need help. My first time setting up a turbo. I bought a used turbo kit that came with a 44 mm precision wastegate. My question is do I need to use the top port on the Westgate or can it be left as is open.
The Westgate only has one banjo that screws onto the side. I believe this is used for boost control. The top port (hole) is left open and does not have anything screwed in. I don’t know if my set up was used that way. Do I need to plug the top port or Can it be left alone, as is?
Very good video. Learned a bunch.
great video mate, thanks.
you're smarter than you look
Could you do a video on where to properly put a waste gate between ex manifold and turbo?
J Minnick sure can!
And the best place and way to mount a turbo because everyone has their own personal preference whether it be out the grille and forward facing or right at the grille and side facing or behind the engine near the firewall and how to clock the turbo for the best oil drain and so on
2003 mercury grand marquis 4.6
Adding a GT45 turbo 7psi
#1What size waste gate should I go with?
#2 I do have a tial waste gate on the shelf, how do I measure it to know what size it is?
I thought it was a big NO-NO to tee your sensor in the same line as your C02 line...to eliminate pressure pulses from your control solenoids.
piston style gate is exactly why i have jgs gates.
Basically indestructible!
And it's made the USA!!
JGS.....FTW designed and made in the USA!!
thanks great stuff
How much horsepower can you make all those Cars My dad has a2017 chevy demax diesel I was wondering if you had any turbos for it
I had to stop the video shortly after starting, an oversized wastegate is not going to overboost your engine. Having a spring in your wastegate that is higher than your desired boost will over boost your engine. An oversized wastegate means your controller might have to be tuned more precise to open at the correct time/psi in order to maintain the desired boost. Having a wastegate smaller than necessary will definitely lead to boost creep and over boost situations because it cannot bypass enough exhaust gases away from the turbo.
Finally someone said it. This bugged me throughout the video hearing that a large wastegate would cause lag.
I was wondering about that since a wastegate, as far as spooling the turbo is concerned, is just a controlled exhaust leak so the issue would seem to be difficulty controlling the "leak" enough to maintain the desired turbo rpm and thus boost as with a big gate small movements equal large changes in the amount of exhaust being diverted were a smaller gate would be easier to control.
Samuel L. Jackson: "Say port one more time!"
What...
great video!
What are your thoughts on moving the sensor off the wastegate to reduce heat and vibration for longevity? More for a street/strip car application.
To be Honest we don't see a whole lot of failures as a result of that. One of the biggest concerns there is that having the sensor away from the gate very far will change and slow down feed back for the boost controller. We do make a nice remote mount sensor if you are doing so, but we would recommend mounting it fairly close to the gate.
Great explanation. I've been experiencing overboosting after I installed a more efficient intercooler. It's only happens in full throttle. I have a 38mm wastegate. Do you have any idea what could possibly cause overboosting after my intercooler upgrade? Any input would greatly help. Thanks
Do I need to add c02 to the waste gate?
good stuff!! new subscriber here!
J L thanks for following along!
If I want just spring pressure I leave the top hole open? Only vacuum from intake manifold to the lower hole? I have the same design as the precision one
Run the top open and feed a hose from your compressor housing to the bottom of your waste gate for spring pressure
You said that it is possible to over size a wastegate. Is this still true when utilizing a bottle sourced dome control?
Austin Sarver it’s a little less relevant with co2 pressure, however, you still can. It can require you to run 2:1, 3:1 + pressure on the dome which most wastegates you can blow diaphragms on and run into other issues doing so
@@MotionRaceworksOfficial ahhh ok I have a better understanding now, thank you for clarifying, and thank you for all of your informative videos!
great video but the sound is too silent
What is a suitable wastegate for 44mm turbo?
You don't size a wastegate for a turbo, you size it based on engine volume and max RPM. Just get the biggest one you can find.
The Best Wastegates on this planet were from Turbonetics !!! ! !!! But now i think they sold themselfs , because they were Too Cheap for such high qualitiy wastegates !!! ! !!!
deltagate co pany?
Should I put it on my Seat Leon Cupra?
Nice thumb nail
You can never oversize a gate facepalm.
SI RICKO you actually can quite easily
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