Speed Painting NEW Flesh Eater Courts - HC 426
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2024
- In this Hobby Cheating Tutorial, I take you through using both OIls and Acrylics to get awesome looking FEC fast! Let's have some fun!
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0:00 Intro
1:55 Oil Painting
9:27 Intermission
10:33 Acrylic Painting
15:52 Outro - Ігри
God, it's so funny to me that Vince's speedpaints are better than nearly everything in the display case in my massive local game store. Deeply talented man
Hi Vince, I think this was one of your best vids, not in the technical sense because you have some amazing technique vids, but from the place of accessibility.
When someone as deservedly respected as you shows it, then folks sit up and listen, I myself put down my tea mug (I'm english)
You didn't sell it on pigment quality or any sort of evangelism, you just pointed out, visually and verbally, just how easy and per model fast oil paints can be, especially for army and unit painting. It's a mystery to me why all tyrannids aren't painted this way, it can only be games workshop tradition and tuition.
You showed folks and then let them consider for themselves.
I myself paint primarily with oils because of a bad hand tremor and the ability to erase and do-over that oils allow, I'd rather paint it 4 times to get a good result than once and hate what I made. (the bad old days)
When I the best bang for my buck with my hobby time, they're no substitute for oils. Especially over organic surfaces- I love them on my Tyranids! Thanks for the video as always Vince.
I'm not sure how many times watching a video like this immediately makes me go through and find all the other recentish videos that use a similar technique, but it's definitely more often than not 😂
Glad you enjoyed it!
Binging your content today while painting smurfs, thanks for all the awesome content :D
Have fun!
Have fun!
4:50 wow…That purple flesh came out amazing
Thanks for continously pushing us in our hobby journey. You're mega gargant video gave me the confidence to use oils and now I'll be following this guide for my Flesh Eaters!
You da goat Vince V. Love this color scheme, it looks awesome!
I appreciate that!
Nice nod to Marco at 2:11
I was literally thinking about picking up oil paints last night and then you'll never guess what popped up on UA-cam.
Here we go again, Vincy V is once more tempting me to actually use the oil paints I already have.
Darn you, Vince, you've once more reminded me to use the bloody tools I have!
The "wait wait wait" 1:00 actually caused me to continue watching lol
Hey Vince - I dont think I've ever commented on a UA-camr's videos before, but I have to say your channel is an absolutely invaluable resource for someone new to the hobby (like me). I've checked out a TON of different channels and your methods and instruction are just miles ahead of anything else out there. Thanks for all you do!
Also... Why is there no apron on the merch store!?! I need a Vince V. apron!!
Wow, thank you! That is wonderful to hear and I am going to add an Apron soon. :)
Oil is King ! thank you again for bringing me into oils. It was like 2-3 years ago I wtched your crimson fists oil video,and that absolutly catched me.
There are so many options ,and Im addicted to oilpainting.
Wonderful!
I love oil paints, what a great opportunity to showcase their properties!
Great video! Would be awesome to see this technique applied to other models!
Great suggestion!
Combination of the oil and acrylic looked great. Cheers Mr V, your fine work is always appreciated.🖖
Chop slap is now officially established!! 😂 great video, you're pushing me more and more to go and try oils on one of my next peirce
Great speedpainting video!
Oils are super fun to use, I need to get back to them :D
Currently my setup requires too much... setup so I keep using acrylics.
Oils are really great for skintones!
Great vid as always!
This video inspired me to try doing all the basecoats of my Necrons with oil paints over zenithal highlighted and weathered metals. It was a little scary at the midway point when it looked like I had just completely covered all my previous work in red gunk - but I really like the final result! It gives an almost 'organic' look to the aged metal, I feel. Thanks for being an inspiration and making all these videos that make it less scary to try new things :)
I like to be extra thick on my oil paints over hair, to pass some of that brush impasto to the surface. It's subtle but future washes highlight it interestingly. Great as always Vince.
Great point!
My first experience with oil paints was with a Cargo-8 Ridgehauler for Necromunda. I basecoated it in bright colours, added transfers, and just slathered it on, left it for a bit, and took the excess off. It's probably both my best-looking vehicle and the one that took the least time and effort.
So... listen to Vince - he knows what he's talking about, and these paints are game changing!
The first version of speed paint could be used this way. I even did that with the grey speed paint to good use.
I picked up a small set of oil paints. Thank you Vince you helped me get there
The more I use oils, the more I love using them. What a great tip about revealing the zenithal to get some easy shading! I'd actually stopped doing zenithals on minis that I paint with oils because it seemed like an unnecessary step. You are the master, Vince!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the oil paints video ! We need way more coverage (see what I did there) on that area on UA-cam.
More to come!
Nice ! As a beginner painter I jumped on the oil train fast with my third mini and I love it. The main selling point is the fact it's way more forgiving than acrylics. I'd personnally love a video on OSL and skin at the same time. Like Kingdom Death Monster's starting survivors but with oils.
The base is also superb!
Great fun! Lot's to learn in a very simple method. Thanks Techno Mancer!!!
Beautiful. Amazing. Enlightening. Thank you Vince for elevating us all as painters.
Excellent as always VV !
You're the man!!!!!!!
Only considered oils thinned 6-1/10-1 for recessed shadow, after a base and first highlight. Thanks for all the help, not as intimidating now
Thanks for this. I've been using oils this year and it's helpful to fet some of these tips
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you Vince. ♥ You are an instrumental cornerstone in my journey getting over painting anxiety.
Amazing as always. Gave me a few new things to do with oil paints!
Best video you've done for a long time, so much in it it'll take multiple viewings😎 I'd really like to see you do more like this- horses for instance.
Dang!! Thanks for this and all you do! I’m excited to give this a try!
Seeing this I think "Should I regret beginning the mini painting adventure with acrylic paints?". 😂
OIls are less user friendly, it's true, I think Acrylic is correct for beginners, but then we can grow from there. :)
Working with oils is super rewarding. Highlighting and recess shading are almost effortless. Great video, highly recommend trying this.
Oils are more forgiving for sure love them so much
I'm calling that paint "Gary Gygax Sewer" from now on...
Always fun to see people use oils!
My god, this was such an eye opening tutorial. Really amazing Vince, i can't wait to try this myself
One of my favorite methods. I should do it more often
Oil paints are fantastic. For gaming minis, these are my go-to-paints nowadays. Thanks for showing some love for the oils.
Also every oil paint stains differently. Some are better for pre-glaze than others. It's a thing to get used to.
Learning the staining power of oils on a Matt surface has changed alot of how I paint
Great video as always. I have some larger models to paint, and I think oils may be a great option.
will there be a slow painting video for FEC aswell?
i bought 3 start collecting boxes at the tail end of 2ed and i still havent assembled them all.
Very excited for this army, been playing them as my first AOS army besides skaven. Looking forward to the new range and painting them.
Looks better than any speed painting I've tried! Great job! :)
Thank you so much 😀
Thank you for providing another oil painting video. I think the medium is really underutilized for mini painting.
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
10/10! Stoked to pick up my oils again 🙌🏻
Good stuff!
Amazing video, as always. I am, struggling to start painting but finally this might be it. Thank you.
You can do it!
9:54 for people curious why Vince put them on a light. It was to help them cure faster, using the heat from the lamp to do so.
I just picked up my copy! I’m super excited that FEC finally gets some love. Great video!
Same here!
*FAST AS FEC!*
I appreciate this tutorial. I was using oil paints exclusively for a little while. They are pretty good but the thing that I dont like about them is that there is a lack of tutorials on how to use them. Also the experts that usually paint them them exclusively live stream on twitch and when they import their videos to youtube. it is nothing but chat shoutouts and never explaining the technique and barely mentioning the colors they are using. Like the video would be title Gold NMM with OSL but 90% of the video is the artist is reading the chat.
What a great topic!
Would like to know more about that base and stone! its great looking
Nice quick guide to oils… just FYI but you missed his thumb claws
I was a little skeptical when you put the heavy layer on, then started to warm up to the idea when you explained the "reverse zenithal" aspect of it, then dropped my jaw when those muscles appeared! I have oil paints for washes, but haven't busted them out yet, this looks like a great way to introduce myself.
Glad I could help!
So Wappelious ;) ;p
Love the wetblending with oils
Very!
Some Marco Frisoni vibes lol. I like this method, I painted my Kruleboyz this way
Very cool!
This is an awesome vid!! Been thinking of using my oils more… I wonder if I could do votann this way…
Excellent tutorial! I've never used oil paints before and this was my first attempt today. I tried following the guide to the letter (not the paints themselves but the steps) on Fell Bats from the vampire Christmas battleforce.
A few questions as a result:
- Do you use this approach for details? I found that after putting 2 different colors on the wing and the bones in middle of wings was very difficult to remove the paint from without the wing color overriding the middle color. A dark wing and light joint resulted in dark joints across everywhere. Had to reapply light color to the joints and that got harder as time went on as they would mix with the darker colors half way through a brush stroke.
- How do you pick which colors to blend in? I tried blending in white into the grey bat faces to make them lighter but it just ended up with more blended grey, but not lighter. Darker blends worked great for making darker areas seem like there's shadow there.
Regardless, very happy with the results! Thank you once again for this great guide! Now gotta wait for a few days for the oils to dry :)
Looking forward to painting other wolves in the vampire box using this approach as well!
1) I generally go in with acrylics for the details as you see here.
2) So generally, my highlight colors are not pure whites, lighter colors are always weaker and so need to be used more carefully, but I generally go for light flesh, napels yellow and so on.
Wash cloth tissues are great for avoiding paper fibers messing up the paint. Basically paper towels, but made specifically to not shed fibers when used.
What are wash cloth tissues? I did a Google search but didn’t come up with anything.
@@Fearthepudding Look up "washcloth tissue wipes", the ones I use are made by Abena. Similar products are usually available at pharmacies and such.
@@Fearthepuddingi wonder if they just mean microfiber towels
About to say, just use microfibre cloth.
Really like how the muscles turned out. This method seems best suited for models with lots of texture. I was wondering how this method would work with something like a Space Marine?
I have some previous videos showing oils with Space Marines - it works great!
curious how much you need to thin the oil paints for the base coats. Love the final finish!
Somwehere between none and a very little depending on your particular paints. So I mean, you are using some white spirits to get everything flowing, but it can be rather thick as it will be removed in large later.
damn nice of them to send you free stuff
Im only sad you seem to do exclusively fantasy 😂 would love to see you tackle more 40k
Awesome video this is inspiring me to move into oils past pin washes (I’ve been using your videos on that subject as a reference!). Do you think you could do something similar with monument hobbies newsh and acrylic paints? Their demo video made it seem like it made acrylics act like oils while keeping the cure time down to hours.
Have you given Golden Open Acrylics a try? I picked up the landscape and color mixing sets to make a complete range of colors, and I love them. They act like oils, but they can be thinned with water and mixed with normal acrylic paints.
I have not, I'll have to try them.
Can we get a video on the base? There's a lot of life in that rock.
It's mostly the bases I've done in previous videos. Just some drybrush green/grey and some stippled white. Then lots of washes, pigment and some Dirty Down moss. :)
4:53 In my experience those makeup brushes take a little too much paint away sometimes. Have you tried regular cotton buds instead? I know they can leave those little hairs behind, but they are also more precise.
I just don't like the risk of the little items. You can always cut them down or use the side. There are also smaller versions of these as well, which I like.
Hey Vince, how effective do you think this speed paint technique would be with Sylvaneth? I havent started my Sylvaneth army and have been looking for new techniques to paint them with instead of the more traditional ways of painting which can be a bit boring. In my opinion this seems soo rewarding as compared to the mainstream way to speed paint. The colors looks so vibrant and saturated, something that can be very hit or miss with speed paints. I just love the back and forth process of getting the right amount of shading and highlights and think it could work well with Sylvaneth.
THis would actually be perfect for sylvaneth.
@@VinceVenturella ok great!! Well gonna be lots of hours reviewing this video over an over agian in the near future, thanks Vince!
Curious if your 3:1 Ultramatt to Satin varnish is applied with an airbrush, or it's different coats with a rattlecan? I will check your other videos on oils as you probably cover it there. Also curious to see how Monument Hobbies "Newish" compares to oils. Also, like your philosophy of pulling the colors togethercin the details. This method could work great on my zerg & zenomorphs!
With an airbrush yes.
FEC! DRINK!!
Do you not have to varnish a primer like regular acrillics before the oil wash? Maybe I just missed it if you said you did.
Nope, you don't have to varnish before oils ever. The white spirits are non interactive with acrylic medium. That being said, you can do so just to make sure when you introduce all the liquid you don't risk pulling up paint when wiping.
Hi Vince, loved the video. Thought this technique would be a good chance to take the next step up in using oils from oil washes. Tried this on my new varghulf, with a warm brown on the skin, black fur and magenta on the wing membranes. I've tried it twice now, with no luck. Despite laying the oil on thick, when I wipe it off there's none of the staining I would expect from a glaze, it all just comes right off, so I end up with more of a wash effect where the only paint left was in the recesses where I couldn't reach it. I thought this might be a time issue so left it overnight (~12 hours) the second time and had no better results. Any ideas where I could be going wrong?
Are you varishing the figure first with gloss varnish or using a very glossy/satin primer? That will reduce the ability to stain the model.
Hey Vince,
great video again 😅 and finally I will try to paint an army using oil paints …. Again 😅
Just one question about the Zenithal being done with an airbrush. How long does it have to cure before using oils and do I need to varnish the undercoat?
Happy 2024 and thx for your answer.
Regards.
Chris
I gave it about an hour before I used the oils, you don't need to varnish, but of course, you can, it can lessen the staining.
Hello Vince. Great video like always! Really great timing on this for me, since I'm about to paint some horrors for the Warmachine Infernals faction. I'm going for a kind of Warhammer pink horror look, and I was thinking I'd do them in oils. Any good ideas for an approach and some colors here? I was thinking about using a magenta like you and adding some highlight blends, but I'm unsure what to try, to get close to the Chaos pink horrors in color.
I think that would work ust fine honestly, magenta or Alizarin Crimson wiped away and subtracted will give you that look, purple as your low tone.
@@VinceVenturella sounds great! I'll give it a try as soon as the project is ready.
Hi Vince, sorry a little off topic but I was looking for a really dark red, purple, violet, blue, etc. I use AK mostly.
I was looking at warcolours and the number 5 range. How dark are they say compared to black red, amethyst blue, Extra dark green, Strong dark blue?
Keep up the great work with the tutorials. Look forward to them every Saturday.
I'ev always just mixed Violet Red from AK with Black, but a real truly dark purple is red, the issue with the Warcolours, is that they ae fairly transparent and the dark purples are even more so.
Oil paints are so good, I just hate the clean-up and having to go to a special facility dispose of dirty mineral spirits if there's too much to simply let evaporate (or if you don;t have a safe place to do that).
Hey Vince, do the Abteilung Oils also need to dry for 3 days or do they really dry faster, thx and lovely vid as always ;)
THey do dry faster, but not crazy faster, usually cuts it by a day or so.
nice, but I have a lot of acrilic paints I don't think I will buy more 😅
Very nice Vince, shouldn’t you be using synthetic brushes with oils?
Those were synthetic brushes. :)
How do you select the correct oil colours to use as the base tones? They seem darker and less bright than how the colours appear on the model?
Generally pick the color you want, then go down like 2 steps in value. It will end up brighter because of the undershade.
@@VinceVenturella thank you 😊
It's almost like Vince never just slaps a good load of contrast all over the place! Strange!
Quick question. Was the model primed with acrylic or oil? I really want to give this a go.
Standard acrylics
When you were painting was that playing at your actual speed or was it sped up for the sake of the video not being overly long?
It's a 1.25 speed, so it's just slightly faster.
I don't believe I've seen you using that pre-glaze style - is that new to the channel, or did I miss one?
Only thing I feel qualified to mention is the makeup sponges - those tiny ones are okay for some areas, but I found using the triangular makeup sponges was cheaper and more effective than the q-tip style (though those are still great, for other things)
You mean undershading and then thin paints? It was some of my earliest videos. :)
You ever use any additives with your oil paints?
Not really, other than thinning with White Spirits.
Hey Vince. I know you have strong opinions about metallic paints, I wanted to ask if you've come across a good oil based gold paint?
Sadly no.
I may sound foolish, but what is FEC stand for?
Flesh Eater Court. The name of the Age of Sigmar army.
James Wappel has entered the chat.
Vince have you tried MH fluorescent?
Great paint job as always. Sorry goes without saying at this point😅
Not yet, but they are on the desk to try.
Chap slop?
I propose, strip down technique.
I really like the idea of not needing to be fussy in the initial application of paint here. Now, my wife really doesn't like odor from the solvents in Oil paints, so I'm curious about whether the "Newsh" medium that Monument Hobbies just put out would allow me to use the same basic process, but with acrylics instead! Is this something that you might be testing out in future?
I am pretty sure our strict technomancer will put that product to a test soon
Same question here! But I will probably try both newish and oil soon!
Switch to Sansodor thinner, it's genuinely mild smelling
We will give it a test.