'The part of the plume that is the thinnest is going to be the part that's farthest away from the source and the brightest' I'm paraphrasing here but this helps me so much in understanding painting things like clouds, smoke, and steam. You help me so much with theory. As always, thanks for being such a dedicated teacher.
Another great video. I especially like how you emphasized that blending in this case is a lot of back and forth. I always feel like I screwed it up when I have to do it over and over again to get the look I want. It is nice to see that while that may be true for me sometimes, it is sometimes just the mechanics of getting the look you want. Thank you!
So this is confirmation that all the new Skaven models should have plastic air molecules.😂. I would love to see the look on Vince’s face when a new doomwheel and plague monks come out covered top to bottom with fart clouds 💀💀💀. Very nice video!
Im looking to do glowing Smoke for my Incepters and low and behold youve done a vid on that! I dont care what anyone says you are the GOAT of mini paint tube!
Very nice, gives a very good impression of transparency. Wondering when you would do a tutorial on painting transparent plastic parts - there is very little on this subject.
@@cerohero1 That would probably only yield tinting of glass panels of cockpits or light lens fixtures; it seems that now a fad has kicked in for transparent spell effects etc (Wizkids chiefly). Probably the mini kit I have found that has the most transparent parts is the Frameworks Balor.
Man Vince it's like you can read my future before you put these out - I just printed out some SICK Shadow Spectres and to really push them further I want to do some underflow under their crazy flowing robes! I needed this!
Good to know I'm not the only one that dislikes the idea of painted 'air'. So glad to see a method that actually sells the semi tangible look. I can finally appreciate the cool new Slaven sculpts without thinking "gee that smoke looks awkward".
"Hello everybody! And welcome to another Hobby-Cheating Video." Man, do this lines brighten up my day! Thank you Vince for continue to make excellent content.
Fantastic tutorial…lots to learn and practice, but always better to see how you do it and then move forward with my happy little accidents as I try to follow your lead. Thanks as always for your time and wisdom on how to paint better!
I recently have been thinking of starting a Chaos Daemons force for 40k and to dip my toe into AoS. Anyways I was going to try my hand at a smoke affect for the skin with glowing green as a contrast and to make the army pop. This is a HUGE help with that goal as im not the best painter. I'm going to give it go thank you for the guide. Cheers.
I usually use the airbrush to do the smoke, it works but your video is another level!Thank you for sharing with us, i'll try this soon on a spiderman figure.
When working with very large plumbs of smoke do you think it would be better to do it in oils since they blend easily? I'm thinking of doing the top part of the plumbs in a warm yellow, down into cadmium orange, cad Orange blending down to red and then red into grey and panel lining the smoke plumb with a red pin wash.
Fantastic video Vince! The problem I had with glow effects is I never thought of going back with the shadow color and smooth back every. Thank you my good sir!👍🏽😊😁
Awesome content! So well explained. I really hope to get a mini to try it out as soon as possible. Keep on doing such fantastic work and explaination!!
Great video loads of useful information, I have a box of Chaos Cultists Warband: Chaos Space marines and one has a gun with sculpted flame any tips on doing a flame would be greatly appreciated.
So I have many videos on doing fire, but here is one - ua-cam.com/video/p9CEPB1OSwI/v-deo.html&pp=gAQBiAQB and here is fire OSL - ua-cam.com/video/fFuBwaClTG0/v-deo.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
Vince you're amazing! I've been watching your videos for quite some time! I've tried to piece together how to do this myself, but is there any way you could show or explain how to paint gold or metallic armor in a night setting? Trying to paint Custodes walking in night setting and it is a challenging scheme for a novice like me.
So the short answer here is it's not really something you can do outside of NMM. I generally don't like to tell people don't do something, but this isn't a novice effect, this is a VERY high level effect and has lots and lots of complications. I know it feels bad, but this isn't something I could simply explain in text and even as a full video would require lots and lots of high level understanding of tones, hue, light and things like that. Even if you got through all that, it still wouldn't look right, as the light you are viewing the model under isn't night, it's a normal bright, warm room. THis sort of effect is really for display type painting.
Another AMAZING Video! Thanks Vince! Could you Name the fluorecent Color again? I could not understand it well (im non english antive speaker) and im allready thru a few brands and cant find one that works well for me. Thank you for all you do for the Minature painting community!
Wonderful stuff; I'd tried some similar things in the past but this clears up my remaining nitpicks with what I was doing. Fortuitously I've got a Word Bearers model on my desk with a plume like this, so I can give it a go while the idea is fresh! The point about the smoke thinning out is one I hadn't thought about, that makes so much sense. Would you do the same for more angular sculpts too (the ones where you can't tell if it's supposed to be smoke or fire), or only the poofy ones?
For once, a HC video has made my life more difficult! I have a bit of sculpted smoke on a model, and I was orignally just going to cut it off, but now I have a cool idea for what it might look like with a fluorescent glow. Decisions, decisions.
Great video! I don't suppose you could cover in a future video how to paint the sculpted water on the bases of some of these figures. Or if you have any tips/wisdom you can share here in the comments about it. Thank you Vince!
I mean, this warband could do all of them, the main guy is a good Priest or Lord, 2 of the other ones could be priests and then there are two that are clearly monks. But you'd need a lot of this warband.
My issue is I have Skrolk, and the other two lords, but priests are difficult to source, especially if I want them to all be different. I think this warband plus the guys from the plague furnace will do. I don't abide by Skrolk's demotion.
*looks at the large-ish Djinni he's painting right now and winces a bit* I'm going to likely riff on this idea to convey the puff of smoke said Djinni is coming out of in this sculpt (the Air Spirit from Reaper's Elemental Scions box set)...I suspect a lot of agonizing and back and forth and blending will be involved.
Hey Vince love your videos , wanted to know you opinion on if you have an army that is well painted. Custom stuff , colors some decals. What would you do to take it to the next level? The army I have is very bright and stand out but want to give it like a splash of class. For context its 40k orks.
It's always hard to say without seeing the army. There are lots of ways to step up armies. It could be more highlights, could be smoothing blends or refining. it could be better basing or kicking that up, it could be punching up metals and stuff like that. The real answer is there is no top end. The best armies in the US are things where people have spent 20-25 hours+ per figure, so there is much you could do if you were inclined and wouldn't lose your mind doing it. ;)
Won't be as punchy and the old formulation might feel a bit chalky, but the contrast version of hexwraith flame or any other bright green contrast paint should work fine. I'd expect to need more effort cleaning up the "coffee staining" over the black, but it shouldn't be hard, just not quite as easy. If you're in the US, you can actually pick up the paint he used from Michaels! No judgment if you're wanting to use paints you already have though, I absolutely own too many haha 😂
How would you rate the user friendliness of the golden high flow paints? My vallejo flourescents are serviceable but I have to shake the absolute piss out of them everytime.
Hey Vince, quick follow up, I pulled the trigger on the golden florescents and the difference is night and day, I have a nid army that I started with flouro orange and switching to these paints has already saved me hours in frustration. Thanks for the recommendation! @@VinceVenturella
You can, but I honestly find it harder to balance, but that just might be my brain. There are mutiple roads to the same destination with all things. :)
Great question! Short answer, no. Long answer: technically yes, because if you're good with an airbrush you can be very precise, but it's actually going to be much easier to do the inner glow with a hair brush than an airbrush. However, you could absolutely do the top highlighting with an airbrush, as well as some of the smoothing, but I personally find it much easier to do the back and forth with a hair brush, since changing colors or dilution is so much faster. Generally though, I find that airbrushes are wonderful for atmospheric or volumetric highlighting, but not for OSL; it's actually quite difficult to get an airbrush to get the sudden jumps in value you want, and while it can be done it's not actually faster than doing it more manually. (That said, you can definitely utilize it to sketch or smooth things out, but be aware that it's going to push you to be too broad and you're working against its nature rather than with it.)
I agree with spark, it's very hard to be this precise. Though it can do some initial color sketching that you can then work fromand refine with a brush.
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'The part of the plume that is the thinnest is going to be the part that's farthest away from the source and the brightest'
I'm paraphrasing here but this helps me so much in understanding painting things like clouds, smoke, and steam.
You help me so much with theory. As always, thanks for being such a dedicated teacher.
Another great video. I especially like how you emphasized that blending in this case is a lot of back and forth. I always feel like I screwed it up when I have to do it over and over again to get the look I want. It is nice to see that while that may be true for me sometimes, it is sometimes just the mechanics of getting the look you want. Thank you!
So this is confirmation that all the new Skaven models should have plastic air molecules.😂. I would love to see the look on Vince’s face when a new doomwheel and plague monks come out covered top to bottom with fart clouds 💀💀💀. Very nice video!
you are one of the only artists not out here hocking sponsor goods. Thank you for for being true to the art
Hey! I didn't have to wait long, you were right! :D Thanks, Vince. Great stuff!
My pleasure!
Im looking to do glowing Smoke for my Incepters and low and behold youve done a vid on that! I dont care what anyone says you are the GOAT of mini paint tube!
Very nice, gives a very good impression of transparency. Wondering when you would do a tutorial on painting transparent plastic parts - there is very little on this subject.
Great suggestion!
I've had to look more for model tank/plane painting videos for this
@@cerohero1 That would probably only yield tinting of glass panels of cockpits or light lens fixtures; it seems that now a fad has kicked in for transparent spell effects etc (Wizkids chiefly). Probably the mini kit I have found that has the most transparent parts is the Frameworks Balor.
I've found inks to be perfect for transparent models. They cover better than instant/contrast paints, but still retain model's transparency.
Man Vince it's like you can read my future before you put these out - I just printed out some SICK Shadow Spectres and to really push them further I want to do some underflow under their crazy flowing robes! I needed this!
This is absolutely stellar stuff. Thank you so much 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
Incredible Vince !!! I have some cloud bases to paint eventually. They don't need to glow, but maby I can apply some of your technique here.
Good to know I'm not the only one that dislikes the idea of painted 'air'. So glad to see a method that actually sells the semi tangible look. I can finally appreciate the cool new Slaven sculpts without thinking "gee that smoke looks awkward".
"Hello everybody! And welcome to another Hobby-Cheating Video."
Man, do this lines brighten up my day! Thank you Vince for continue to make excellent content.
Glad you like them!
Looking great Vince! I may have to paint up some ghosts like this.
I have a piece I’m about to start which this technique should work well for, so glad I found your channel….thanks very much!
Welcome! Glad to have you along!
Very impressive! I honestly would not have known even where to begin on creating that effect.
Fantastic tutorial…lots to learn and practice, but always better to see how you do it and then move forward with my happy little accidents as I try to follow your lead. Thanks as always for your time and wisdom on how to paint better!
What a great niche technique explained effortlessly, thanks for the tip Vince!
My pleasure!
I love Golden High Flows! They're perfect straight through the airbrush, too!
I recently have been thinking of starting a Chaos Daemons force for 40k and to dip my toe into AoS. Anyways I was going to try my hand at a smoke affect for the skin with glowing green as a contrast and to make the army pop. This is a HUGE help with that goal as im not the best painter. I'm going to give it go thank you for the guide. Cheers.
Great video. Perfect timing as I'm about to embark on a Weirdnob Shaman.
Well if I could paint this maybe I would not dislike painting air as much. Now I just have learn the steps to get to this level. :)
The GOAT at it again
Amazingly wonderful. Thank you for this teaching lesson:)
Glad you liked it!
Knocked this one out of the park Vince!
I usually use the airbrush to do the smoke, it works but your video is another level!Thank you for sharing with us, i'll try this soon on a spiderman figure.
When working with very large plumbs of smoke do you think it would be better to do it in oils since they blend easily? I'm thinking of doing the top part of the plumbs in a warm yellow, down into cadmium orange, cad Orange blending down to red and then red into grey and panel lining the smoke plumb with a red pin wash.
Absolutely, could make a lot of this a lot easier.
Wow such lovely composition on that model and the smoke is killing it!
Yeah, and YOU are killing your intention with using koolpodkastspeech.
Fantastic video Vince! The problem I had with glow effects is I never thought of going back with the shadow color and smooth back every. Thank you my good sir!👍🏽😊😁
Happy to help!
Awesome content! So well explained. I really hope to get a mini to try it out as soon as possible. Keep on doing such fantastic work and explaination!!
Thanks! Will do!
Vince V you are the goat.
Great video Vince! Thank you!
I just bought your signature series and ninjon signature series pro acrylic paints now to figure out how to use them
Such artistry.
Very nice Vince!
This tutorial is great timing thanks!
Smoke looks so cool
Great tutorial as usual Mr V. Thank you.👏
Beautiful work! Taught me a lot too, another great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is why I LOVE my airbrush.
Love these new rats. Great stuff man
Amazing channel and videos thanks for taking the time to produce and share 👍🔥
Our pleasure!
Makes sense. Thanks!!!
Het looks so amazing. Whish you did mine too 🤩🤩
Great video loads of useful information, I have a box of Chaos Cultists Warband: Chaos Space marines and one has a gun with sculpted flame any tips on doing a flame would be greatly appreciated.
So I have many videos on doing fire, but here is one - ua-cam.com/video/p9CEPB1OSwI/v-deo.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
and here is fire OSL - ua-cam.com/video/fFuBwaClTG0/v-deo.html&pp=gAQBiAQB
@@VinceVenturella thanks for the links .
Vince you're amazing! I've been watching your videos for quite some time! I've tried to piece together how to do this myself, but is there any way you could show or explain how to paint gold or metallic armor in a night setting? Trying to paint Custodes walking in night setting and it is a challenging scheme for a novice like me.
So the short answer here is it's not really something you can do outside of NMM. I generally don't like to tell people don't do something, but this isn't a novice effect, this is a VERY high level effect and has lots and lots of complications. I know it feels bad, but this isn't something I could simply explain in text and even as a full video would require lots and lots of high level understanding of tones, hue, light and things like that. Even if you got through all that, it still wouldn't look right, as the light you are viewing the model under isn't night, it's a normal bright, warm room. THis sort of effect is really for display type painting.
“Acrylic paints blend like crap.” Thanks for that Vince. I thought it was just me.
Given the amount of blending if we are proficient in oil painting miniatures would you just say use oils for quicker and smoother blends?
ALways an option.
Great stuff friend 👏 👍
Another AMAZING Video! Thanks Vince! Could you Name the fluorecent Color again? I could not understand it well (im non english antive speaker) and im allready thru a few brands and cant find one that works well for me.
Thank you for all you do for the Minature painting community!
Golden Hi-Flow Fluorescent Green.
Thanks so much that you take the tiem for all these replys @@VinceVenturella
Wonderful stuff; I'd tried some similar things in the past but this clears up my remaining nitpicks with what I was doing. Fortuitously I've got a Word Bearers model on my desk with a plume like this, so I can give it a go while the idea is fresh!
The point about the smoke thinning out is one I hadn't thought about, that makes so much sense. Would you do the same for more angular sculpts too (the ones where you can't tell if it's supposed to be smoke or fire), or only the poofy ones?
Great video as always. Kind of a meta question, how many sessions did you spend on the smoke, and on the model in general?
The smoke was done in about an hour, the model took about 2 hours or so total.
For once, a HC video has made my life more difficult! I have a bit of sculpted smoke on a model, and I was orignally just going to cut it off, but now I have a cool idea for what it might look like with a fluorescent glow. Decisions, decisions.
Glad I could help! ;)
Thanks for sharing man I’m just finally getting around to painting Skittershanks Clawpack lol
Great video! I don't suppose you could cover in a future video how to paint the sculpted water on the bases of some of these figures. Or if you have any tips/wisdom you can share here in the comments about it. Thank you Vince!
Yep, I will be doing a video on that for sure. :)
Loving your work as always, thanks for the great content. Do you know what kit/where this plague monk is from? cant seem to find him.
Thanks, Alec
He is from the Underworlds warband, Skabbik's Clawpack.
Sorry for the nube question. When you say AK Tenebrous Grey ... what is AK stand for?
It’s the brand of paint, AK 3rd gen.
Warhammer Quest 1995 needs 12 Plague Monks, 6 Plague Priests, and 2 Plague Lords. What would you use for the priests and lords?
I mean, this warband could do all of them, the main guy is a good Priest or Lord, 2 of the other ones could be priests and then there are two that are clearly monks. But you'd need a lot of this warband.
My issue is I have Skrolk, and the other two lords, but priests are difficult to source, especially if I want them to all be different. I think this warband plus the guys from the plague furnace will do. I don't abide by Skrolk's demotion.
*looks at the large-ish Djinni he's painting right now and winces a bit* I'm going to likely riff on this idea to convey the puff of smoke said Djinni is coming out of in this sculpt (the Air Spirit from Reaper's Elemental Scions box set)...I suspect a lot of agonizing and back and forth and blending will be involved.
Hey Vince love your videos , wanted to know you opinion on if you have an army that is well painted. Custom stuff , colors some decals. What would you do to take it to the next level? The army I have is very bright and stand out but want to give it like a splash of class. For context its 40k orks.
It's always hard to say without seeing the army. There are lots of ways to step up armies. It could be more highlights, could be smoothing blends or refining. it could be better basing or kicking that up, it could be punching up metals and stuff like that. The real answer is there is no top end. The best armies in the US are things where people have spent 20-25 hours+ per figure, so there is much you could do if you were inclined and wouldn't lose your mind doing it. ;)
Thanks Vince. These are at least places to look !!@@VinceVenturella
Nice!
Thanks!
YAY! I just got these ratty bois!
It may be annoying to you, but the smoke looks awesome. Would it be such a cool rat without the painted air?
will Hexwrath flame from gw will do the job for the green as well?
Won't be as punchy and the old formulation might feel a bit chalky, but the contrast version of hexwraith flame or any other bright green contrast paint should work fine. I'd expect to need more effort cleaning up the "coffee staining" over the black, but it shouldn't be hard, just not quite as easy.
If you're in the US, you can actually pick up the paint he used from Michaels! No judgment if you're wanting to use paints you already have though, I absolutely own too many haha 😂
Agree with Spark.
@@SparkSovereign wow, that paint from the video has a disclaimer on the back side, that it can cause cancer....
How would you rate the user friendliness of the golden high flow paints? My vallejo flourescents are serviceable but I have to shake the absolute piss out of them everytime.
They are much, much, much, much, much, much better. Vallejo Fluroescents are basically garbage sadly. THese are very liquid, easy to work with.
Hey Vince, quick follow up, I pulled the trigger on the golden florescents and the difference is night and day, I have a nid army that I started with flouro orange and switching to these paints has already saved me hours in frustration. Thanks for the recommendation! @@VinceVenturella
What are your thoughts on starting this from a white base coat?
You can, but I honestly find it harder to balance, but that just might be my brain. There are mutiple roads to the same destination with all things. :)
Lots of futzing! 😄
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Could the same result be done with an airbrush?
Great question!
Short answer, no.
Long answer: technically yes, because if you're good with an airbrush you can be very precise, but it's actually going to be much easier to do the inner glow with a hair brush than an airbrush. However, you could absolutely do the top highlighting with an airbrush, as well as some of the smoothing, but I personally find it much easier to do the back and forth with a hair brush, since changing colors or dilution is so much faster.
Generally though, I find that airbrushes are wonderful for atmospheric or volumetric highlighting, but not for OSL; it's actually quite difficult to get an airbrush to get the sudden jumps in value you want, and while it can be done it's not actually faster than doing it more manually. (That said, you can definitely utilize it to sketch or smooth things out, but be aware that it's going to push you to be too broad and you're working against its nature rather than with it.)
I agree with spark, it's very hard to be this precise. Though it can do some initial color sketching that you can then work fromand refine with a brush.
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Holy crap you DO hold your brush wrong!
It's Saturday you know what that means another hobby cheating weekly.
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