Dear manufacturers, feel free to use up as much internal storage as you need if it helps the system run better. But give us back expandable storage then ffs!
I agree, I accept that the system takes up space, hell a striped down version of windows 10 still takes up around 30gb, but you cannot limit me to cloud storage when I CANT MOVE MY PHYCIAL INSTALLED APPS THERE and that's what takes up my space. Boy do I miss being able to throw excess apps on external storage.
@ it ain't lmao. even windows 11 uses less than that. my current windows 10 install that I've been using for 2 years now only uses 48gigs and I already have everything that I need installed.
Well for an android replacement, I use LineageOS to breath some new life into old hardware. My Tab 3 (10,1) (2012) is a very good exaple: I think 1,5GB of ram, 16Gb of storage and with an x86 CPU firstly hard to run some sort of new opperating system on, but secondly has no benefits of a x86 CPU since its just running android apps, but all the withdraws like heat and low battery life. Now heres the kicker: on the Samsung ROM, with what this thing shipped with, it had almost no storage about 50MBs, was lagging, an could connect to YT because the app wasnt supported anymore, and in the browser videos were kinda okay, but the playstore was just awfully slow. 10 min to load the page of Hill Climb racing, not even installing it, just loading the page. Now on lineageOS, i choose the nano package of Gapps (Google Apps) which just includes Play Store and some services that are required to run. 8GB of storage left, battery life for ages, YT works, but it comes with some graphics bugs of Android 7. Like Image line remote not working. But for Spacedesk or lite gaming its absolutely fine. Best part: lineageOS is free Did that to my old phones and tablets aswell, runs like a charm
actually that system storage takes into account the loss when converting units. to know how much space apps take on your phone you have to give it acces, so that's why there's an i there. if It doesn't know it adds all the space the apps take to the system
Wait is it actually the u.i that take up the storage? I mean I know it is not the same, but when I install window 10 on pc it took less than 10gb of storage.
reminder, the apps tou have installed get included under system storage if you don't enable a thing in the settings (clicking on the "apps" tab right above the system storage count leads you to it) the real value of system files leads up to about 30 gb, which is still a lot, but not almost 90 gb
For those who don't know: It's the same size of OS data, but the misunderstanding comes in general all data storage like you use on computer, cameras etc. When you buy a storage like for example 512gb, not all 512gb storage can be used, more like 460gb can only be use. For instance on the video that "unusable" space they considered it as system. For those who question why there is unusable TL;DR would be Convertion misunderstanding on technical than advertised on data. A quick google will be.
@@mircioniIt's related to Windows and how it reads storage. Because Windows and specifically CPUs work in a binary code they use the number 2 to the power of some number, which in this case is 2^11 or 2048 GB. Now because storage works in decimals they use the number 10 to the power of some number, which in this case is 2*(10^3) which equals 2000 GiB. And because of that storage of drives is measured in Gibibytes not Gigabytes (1GiB is 1.024GB) . That's where your difference is. And after that when you boot into Windows it shows you the wrong information. It actually shows you the storage in GiB (1860) not in GB (2048) but Windows thinks it's GB because that's just how their UI works and is something that they should fix. I hope this helped you understand.
If the extended RAM is activated, it appears in the settings as normal memory, I have mine activated normally, it occupies 42GB of memory, if it is turned off, it occupies 17GB.
Bro I switched from an android to iPhone and downloading songs is so much more convenient cause it uploads it to iCloud and that’s good I basically never run out of space only when I have to many apps
@@realchronal well I have an android and I can stream any songs for free without ads and I can even download them offline. With the power of sideloading apps
The storage is normaly reduced by essential partitions(too much text to explain) and effective storage, for instance an nvme m.2 ssd of 2tb is around 1,81tb or a 256gb is 220gb more or less, this normal reduction must be included in the system judging by the exact maximum of 512gb
OneUI had always used around 30GB for system for me which is quite a lot, but it got reduced to 12GB after updating to OneUI 6! Samsung does listen to their users ❤.
In case you don't know, all storage must have 20% of the total space reserved, so that it does not have errors, the device does not crash, and it does not matter if it is 50,000TB, always 20% must be reserved for prevention.
@@vishalpatil-fy2otthe errors would be from not having enough storage. they need to store temp files and it's ensured that they will have space for future updates
@@ndnixlon9548my pixel 8 pro only uses 14gb (10% of a 128gb) running android 14, my Pixel 7 pro only uses 20gb (16%) so no not really a 'later' android thing, sounds like more of another Samsung problem
I love how this represents back when i had a galaxy j5 with 8gb storage and the system took 7.99gb. Couldnt install any apps and could only take like 10 photos
System Data is also taken up by Virtual Machines on Mac. Mobile Operating systems must use functions that rely on similar program files that could be classified as data. According to the iOS 18 Developer Beta (My current iOS), “includes Caches, Logs and Other resources in use by the [operating] system[s]- this value will fluctuate according to system needs”. Essentially, its not the OS
There should be a new law that states companies are forced to disclose the actual available storage to the customer not the size of the storage unit itself.
That's the thing... the system storage isn't really taking that much it's just the partition where it CAN use 89 gigs but if you do some modding you can use that up but just know that your phone might end up replacing your files with its own.
OK, what's the total storage and what storage does the box state? Bet they don't match. Xiaomi doesn't state the missing conversion space. That's all. They're the same.
If you click the I on apps, it will tell you to give "My Files" additional permissions. Do this and that size will drop down as it is the overall size of system AND apps.
My man doesn't know his "Apps" taking most of that space. If you take a closer look, he has not given permission to the settings for measuring the total size of the "Apps" in this list, and there is an exclamation point in front of it.
The more recent Samsung phones have the system occupying that much space and it scales with the storage it comes with, it's not just apps without permission Edit: on wan show, linus from LTT opened a new phone that had nothing installed and had a system size this big and checked the apps live unable to fimd a reason for it
@Dark Lyght I just checked my s22 ultra- after giving permission for files to read app storage it went from 55gb system storage > 27gb. I dunno why ur in the comments arguing and quoting LTT videos if you don't even own the phone yourself??
@@allan12ish i do have a s22 ultra, and i did find it weird when i got it that so much space was being used compared to my previous phone (s9+)... Mine at the moment has 36GB of system and it had around this much when i got it too. I always found it weird but didn't really care and only noticed that it is getting worse when i saw the video on LTT
Fragmentation problem. Android does not offers: "Defragmentation" . So all that fragmented up space is unusable and is included as system. That is why android storage space keeps getting more and more Used with time without any barrier or stoppage. And your phone dies at the end. Huawei has released a new smarphone OS which is 3 times efficient than the linux kernal (written about 45 years ago). I can only hope it would be at least open source and Sweeten smartphone users' experience. Because Google never had better employees. They just hire the fresh college passouts. Reason for all our bad user storage experience on Android . You know how opposite is the Windows Operating system to android in terms of storage management.
@@truearmy1953isn’t flash storages does not need defragmentation? i know this cuz google said u need to turn off defrag (in laptop ssd’s) since it is not needed and will deteriorate your tbw
@@unborngaming373Part of it is how storage is sold. When you buy 512gb of storage, you actually get 465gb usable, happens with HDD/SSDs and with SD cards too.
So let me clear some confusion here, some people are saying the system storage is accounting for the apps and while that may have been true on the older samsungs it's not on the newer s22 and beyond but what it does do which makes that sort of true is that the system accounts for apk's for installing apps and that registers under system storage so in a sense yes apps show under the system storage but only the installation files for the apps.
This storage is for redundancy, it is a space intended for copies of everything you save. If something gets corrupted or there is a problem, it uses this copy to fix it, this space is based on the total size of your storage. Sorry for my English, it's not the language I originally speak
It's not for redundancy actually. The truth is the storage taken by Apps is added to "system" due to some permission issues. It can be fixed by pressing the exclamation mark and doing what it asks you to do.
That is not possible, the apps will have a fixed size or may vary a bit, but it is more belivable what the other guy said, redunfancy, apps wonr increase its size based on how much internal storage you have in different devices@@bengerlorf8765
No it's because it's combined with your apps usage data. So tap on that "i" icon on the apps then allow file manager. Then you can see the apps usage data.
@@eveningafterrain it is not 60GB. It is GB vs GiB units. Storage is 512GB but android uses GiB which is 476. That difference is added to system. Other phones usually does not say 512GB available storage but 476 and system is smaller
Same for hard drives on windows. 1TB drive shows about 932GB only. Cuz windows count kB as 1024 bytes which should be kiB unit as kB is 1000 bytes. MacOS and iOS devices counts kB correctly as 1000 bytes. So 1TB drive will be shown as 1TB or 1000GB not as 932 in windows
Like @josevela3797 said, they just simplified the numbers for non IT people. The real storage is 477GB (because of allocation, byte conversion etc). So it will be weird to tell users that the storage is 512GB, system files is, let's say 11GB, but then you do the math and you're like where all the rest of GB went??
Well it compose of android OS, Kernel/framework, bootloader, page file (i forgot the other term in phone but it is a Virtual RAM) and samsung bloatapps along with file system allocation which is actually 477GB. Combine those and you'll get that.
Let me ask you this. You buy a 2tb hard drive. You install windows on that drive and it takes up 100gb. Does that mean that 2tb hd is now 1.9tb? No. Same here. The flash chip doesnt do that. It's not a scam, it's it's literal storage. Free space on first boot is what your saying you want but truth of the matter is that can vary too. TLDR, it's really complicated. Free space on first boot is what you want, not total storage.
@@Joe-xr2xlyou're buying a hard disk for the storage, and you can do what you want with that storage. When you're buying a 128 gb device advertised as such you're paying for 128 gb storage that you can use, not the phone using up such a huge portion of that space
@Joe-xr2xl if I go out and buy a 120gb SSD specifically to install the recent CoD that (for arguments sake) requires 120gb of space, and I find out I only have 118gb, I didn't get what was paid for. Yes, they vary. No, it's not something people should just accept. Likewise if the SSD had exactly 120gb, and I installed it, only to learn the drive had a partition of 3gb for system stuff that can't be removed, they've not sold me a 120gb drive. They've sold me a 117gb drive. Drives are sold on usable space. Not theoretical space you'll never be able to use because half of it is being eaten up by the system.
@@manan-543 iPhone XS Max 256gb (extra 50gb from iCloud storage) and I take Alot of pics of dumb shit 18,600 pics of a lobster And a collective ofc20,000 pics of some stuff I drew So yea I think I might need to delete some 😅😅
This is why we need MicroSD support folks. The reasoning behind the removal was absolutely bogus. We should've not bought the S21, instead we bent over and took it. Major loss.
I doubled my storage with an sd card on my note 10 plus. I which it was still a thing. But you know, I thought by now we'd have like 512gb be default by now since you know, the standard config on the note 10 plus, the phone I have and bought 5 years ago, was 256, so knowing how continuous numbers go, I thought we'd already have 512 be the base model.
I remember my first smartphone. A Samsung Galaxy Ace with a pretty solid 512MB of internal storage. I later upgraded to the Motorola G2 with a whopping 8GB of internal storage. Storage these days is getting crazy xD
My first phone was a an Ace to but I am pretty sure 512 Mb was the ram the storage was 4GB and the system ironically used 1.9GB on a fresh reset and 2.5 gB when all apps where up to date 😂
I remember 4 gig iPod nano’s only had like 3.6 gigs or something and even that I was like “yo gimme my songs!!” I always thought that manufacturers should up the memory to make up for all the system storage that is already used up.
@@maharaj8460 might be wrong but I think it’s the lack of knowledge on tech by the general public that forces companies to do this. For example, storage devices perform best when 10% of the drive is free. So some of this storage goes into the actual OS and perhaps the rest is ensuring that 10% of storage remains free to ensure system stanility
Storage taxes are crazy 💀
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Right? 😂
Fr fr
the system better be washing my dishes if it's taking 89 gigs
😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Nice one. I agree though😮
Lmao 😂😂😂
🤣🤣
System: nah if ai do aim going eat more gb storage 😂
Bro's system storage is 3x bigger than my 100% internal storage lol
Yours 32 GB??
Mine is
@@Giacomo_Neroneexactly
@@user-cp6qw3lw3r How do you even use it with 32 gb, that sounds impossible to today's usage.
Micro sd cards maybe @@vyneshindenmc6181
Dear manufacturers, feel free to use up as much internal storage as you need if it helps the system run better. But give us back expandable storage then ffs!
Some Infinix phones still have the adoptable storage features ❤
💯💪🏾🤦🏾😑
@@nelayanpejuang4194One of the worst decisions you canake when buying phones is getting a transsion phone (Infinix, Tecno, Itel, etc)
I agree, I accept that the system takes up space, hell a striped down version of windows 10 still takes up around 30gb, but you cannot limit me to cloud storage when I CANT MOVE MY PHYCIAL INSTALLED APPS THERE and that's what takes up my space. Boy do I miss being able to throw excess apps on external storage.
You can use nvme ssd in an enclosure which is better than sd card
"look at me, I'm the Windows now"
Funny enough windows itself isn't that big 😂
@@darshansolanki9083 yes it is :)))
@ it ain't lmao. even windows 11 uses less than that.
my current windows 10 install that I've been using for 2 years now only uses 48gigs and I already have everything that I need installed.
@a fresh windows install is like ≈25 gb
Sweet captain phillips reference
What's the system doing?
System: Downloading system
Self sufficient homie ✌️
Me with 32 gb storage of whole phone 😂
Same @@darkwave.
Im using 16 gb 😂@@darkwave.
😂😂😂
Exactly...we potato phone users suffer this alot...with our phone memory always full 😂
I am a felow potato user, all my budget went into a computer so my phone continues to be a potato
@@basilstudios3196 bro, it's soo hard ..when you have to wait for the action you clicked to happen... potato phone users have the best patience 😂😭
Been there dude 😂😂 but not anymore@@KarlSkorger
Well for an android replacement, I use LineageOS to breath some new life into old hardware. My Tab 3 (10,1) (2012) is a very good exaple: I think 1,5GB of ram, 16Gb of storage and with an x86 CPU firstly hard to run some sort of new opperating system on, but secondly has no benefits of a x86 CPU since its just running android apps, but all the withdraws like heat and low battery life.
Now heres the kicker: on the Samsung ROM, with what this thing shipped with, it had almost no storage about 50MBs, was lagging, an could connect to YT because the app wasnt supported anymore, and in the browser videos were kinda okay, but the playstore was just awfully slow. 10 min to load the page of Hill Climb racing, not even installing it, just loading the page.
Now on lineageOS, i choose the nano package of Gapps (Google Apps) which just includes Play Store and some services that are required to run. 8GB of storage left, battery life for ages, YT works, but it comes with some graphics bugs of Android 7. Like Image line remote not working. But for Spacedesk or lite gaming its absolutely fine.
Best part: lineageOS is free
Did that to my old phones and tablets aswell, runs like a charm
Samsung in 2130: Our phones now have 10000000gb of storage!
Consumer: 😃😃😃
Samsung: However, our system takes up 9999999gb of storage.
🤣
Whats the point of high storage pione then 💀
Customers:💀💀💀
This joke is like one of those stupid 8 years olds say and as adults we just laugh for the stupidity of the joke and not the actual joke😂
actually that system storage takes into account the loss when converting units. to know how much space apps take on your phone you have to give it acces, so that's why there's an i there. if It doesn't know it adds all the space the apps take to the system
System what are you doing?
System: uhh.... drugs
HAHAHAHAHA
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Bruh!!! 😂😂😂
One Ui taking more storage than Windows💀💀
windows only takes 1.5 gb of storage so i’m not surprised
@@jamesm7072u mean windows 7?
@@InvalidIGN no, windows reserves a small amount of storage
Wait is it actually the u.i that take up the storage? I mean I know it is not the same, but when I install window 10 on pc it took less than 10gb of storage.
@@skyecloud968why are talking about?? Windows is like 30 gb
reminder, the apps tou have installed get included under system storage if you don't enable a thing in the settings (clicking on the "apps" tab right above the system storage count leads you to it)
the real value of system files leads up to about 30 gb, which is still a lot, but not almost 90 gb
Thanks for the explanation 🙏
How he has a Ytube channel about phones and doesn't know that!!
@@farou9redmi910 😂
My Pixel shows apps separate from the system. Do just Samsung phones do this or do most phone manufacturers do this and Google doesn't?
Mines only 20 gigs, so idk where you getting these numbers 💀
Mine. 16 gb on S22+.
Mine only uses 9,4 Gb on my iPhone 💀💀
17.64 on my s23 ultra just delete all the trash apps that come with the phone and you don't use
Where r these numbers coming from? I mean mine is just 10 gig. 20,56,89 GBs r crazy
@vivekbhoite3616 it depends on the system apps you have installed, they are part of that. Like calculator, office, all the google apps ech
system what are you doing?
system: uhh playing GTA v
??? Its not even released yet
GTA V made perfect sense@@SUS_DeveloperRoblox
😂😂😂😂
@@SUS_DeveloperRobloxnah it will use more than all his storage
@@SUS_DeveloperRobloxno 5 you can actually play GTA v on Android now
@@MetalGearMechWars im talking about GTA VI
They built a whole headquarters server there 💀💀💀
363 likes and no comment let me fix this :)
You think first comment is this ??
Although you are right ;;
@@Ayeinnn69 Npc 💀
Bro installed gta on his shi-t
That's true 🤣🤣
500th like
The System storage also includes the app you installed as you can see theirs an Exclamation mark in app row
Think about those who have 1tb version......
It 's always "What is the system doing?"
But never "How's the system doing?"
I'll do you one better: WHY is the system doing?
😂
god, this endgame refrence is killing me 😂
Bro 🤣☠️
Cuz it's obvious. Bloated is how the system is doing.
"what the dog doing" ❌
"What the system doing" ✅
😂😂
It's not funny, it's bad 🫤
@@StevenblasterPlaysfr
@@StevenblasterPlaysfr
Well those are the security files and trust certificates to safe guard your phone.....
It's feels a bit nicer than komm susser tod but man that ending is still to this day sad
They use customer's phone as their headquarters database 😂😂
The system must be storing Victoria’s secrets
Knowing what little I know of her your gonna need more storage then just 89 gigs.
me omw (on my way) to gain access to system
Aint nothing secret about that hooch
Well, aren't you gonna answer your questions?
he's an old man who lives in ohio
Human: what are you doing system?
System: Creating the entire universe
Everything in the universe you could think of
not funny
@@Aljunaide womp womp
@Aljunaide it's actually very funny and you can fuck off
you could say it's creating the _galaxy_
"What's the system doing? " 😂... man, you're a jester
Now that's a good question : what's the system doing?? 😂😂
At this point, I need an external storage device to running a system 💀
😂😂😂
For those who don't know: It's the same size of OS data, but the misunderstanding comes in general all data storage like you use on computer, cameras etc. When you buy a storage like for example 512gb, not all 512gb storage can be used, more like 460gb can only be use. For instance on the video that "unusable" space they considered it as system.
For those who question why there is unusable TL;DR would be Convertion misunderstanding on technical than advertised on data.
A quick google will be.
It's possible in Sony mobile 📲📲
I am Using 32 Gb Sd Card But Then Also I Cant Handle Bcz i Have 32 gb of phone storage😂
When your phone's OS uses more storage than a Windows 10 PC
It's takes more storage than my windows 11 pro
Nah combine the both and they could barely reach the previous guys phone system storage usage not even close to 89gbs.
@@Ss-yt3kxSame
More than win 11
Much More than My windows 10laptop
Bro mine better be going grocery shopping and picking up the kids from school with a system storage of 89GB.
System:
"Yeah let me just install every ONE UI app onto your phone but with 5x the storage of them and give you absolutely no new features."
The higher the storage the higher the taxes
Smartphone socialism
True.. The same.. With the storage... I still don't get why they advertise HDD and SSD 2TB when it shows 1TB and 860GB.
@@mircioniIt's related to Windows and how it reads storage. Because Windows and specifically CPUs work in a binary code they use the number 2 to the power of some number, which in this case is 2^11 or 2048 GB. Now because storage works in decimals they use the number 10 to the power of some number, which in this case is 2*(10^3) which equals 2000 GiB. And because of that storage of drives is measured in Gibibytes not Gigabytes
(1GiB is 1.024GB) . That's where your difference is. And after that when you boot into Windows it shows you the wrong information. It actually shows you the storage in GiB (1860) not in GB (2048) but Windows thinks it's GB because that's just how their UI works and is something that they should fix. I hope this helped you understand.
@@ninjata06 I knew this in a way, but...than they can add more storage so that when we see we don't feel tricked😁
But thank for your time to answer.
@@ninjata06thank you for sharing your information with us. It’s very much appreciated 😊.
Trust me, the god damn system is downloading porn in 4k resolution
nah! 8k UHD
I was thinking the same 😂
16K resolution 120 fps
Haha
Thats why L
GBT needs to be banned
I think its marketing strategy 😭
" What is the system doing?"
Living rent free with entire family in your phone 😂
Y’all remember when we only had 8 GB on our iPod touches and the system used like 3 or 4 of it 😭
i still have 2gb machine where i hav 0.5gb for use after clean setup so.... no worries 😂
people only care about Android...ios is flawless...but actually both have same issues such as this one, as it is a hw reserved partition.
I have an 8gb iPhone 5c and 5 is used by the system 😭
Yes 😭😭😭😭
@@multiple_phones I bought one off of eBay to offset my iPhone 6's storage back in the day. Ut had 16 gb and the system took up like 6 😑
Windows: I see a worthy opponent
😅😂😂😂❤
😂 windows
Btw I use arch
@@user-kalilinuxofficialnobody asked
@@breadcraft3605 wow you're so wise
This size is more than the total memory of most phones.
If the extended RAM is activated, it appears in the settings as normal memory, I have mine activated normally, it occupies 42GB of memory, if it is turned off, it occupies 17GB.
The system literally know your storage just upgraded.
Bruh
😂😂😂
The matrix knows everything
Remembering converting my mp3s to 64kbps mono in order to fit maybe 6 songs in the phone makes me feel so soo old
Damn
Bro I switched from an android to iPhone and downloading songs is so much more convenient cause it uploads it to iCloud and that’s good I basically never run out of space only when I have to many apps
Once I downloaded 8kbps songs. Had 32 full length songs in my samsung phone that had 14 MB storage.
@@realchronal well I have an android and I can stream any songs for free without ads and I can even download them offline. With the power of sideloading apps
@@realchronalhmmm can't you do the same with Google drive? Idk much abt iphones.
Human - what is system doing
Le system - I am making fool of whole universe 😂
The storage is normaly reduced by essential partitions(too much text to explain) and effective storage, for instance an nvme m.2 ssd of 2tb is around 1,81tb or a 256gb is 220gb more or less, this normal reduction must be included in the system judging by the exact maximum of 512gb
You will never know how i got this much likes 😁
It's doing it's best. Leave it alone! Lol
I wonder how fast the phone will be if that space cleared
@@009mbarek 😂😂 only if it survived
@@architmishra015 😂😂😂😂
What ‘da system doin?
Before my system storage was 69gb on my S23 but now after the 6.0 UI update it's 16gb🤯 amazing
Same
Sameee
Which varient are you using like 256
@@Phani7 yes
Yes same...mine is 14 on s22U
Thats literally the smoothest flex of phone storage ive known. Lol
it has been fixed. Before it was 47GB for me, now it's only 15GB
@oceanunderwaterworldmine is 17 too
mine is 24gb 💀
OneUI had always used around 30GB for system for me which is quite a lot, but it got reduced to 12GB after updating to OneUI 6! Samsung does listen to their users ❤.
miui use 20gigs😂
Mine is using 22.70GB 💀
In case you don't know, all storage must have 20% of the total space reserved, so that it does not have errors, the device does not crash, and it does not matter if it is 50,000TB, always 20% must be reserved for prevention.
That's utter bullshit..
Is this exclusive to later versions of Android?
Y don't they just fix the error then?
@@vishalpatil-fy2otthe errors would be from not having enough storage. they need to store temp files and it's ensured that they will have space for future updates
@@ndnixlon9548my pixel 8 pro only uses 14gb (10% of a 128gb) running android 14, my Pixel 7 pro only uses 20gb (16%) so no not really a 'later' android thing, sounds like more of another Samsung problem
The warzone of system
I remember that one time where my phone used 256 gigs of 512
BRO THATS MORE THAN MY PHONES ENTIRE STORAGE 😭
Same, me with 64GB with iPhone 11😭😭😭
@@MM.4753 Me with 32 GB phone with 15GB available storage 😢
@@pushkarmitra Me with 3.56GB free out of 64GB 😭😭😭
My galaxy f23 5g system storage: 20 GB/128GB
@@iit8090 It’s essential partition to keep the device running smoothly
I love how this represents back when i had a galaxy j5 with 8gb storage and the system took 7.99gb. Couldnt install any apps and could only take like 10 photos
😂😂😂 Same
They'll be like phone has 8g memory meanwhile it's 50mb😅
wdf
Android is like 5gbs 😭
What 😂😂😂
I have a 1TB version of the Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra, and it is currently utilizing 18GB of system storage.
System Data is also taken up by Virtual
Machines on Mac. Mobile Operating systems
must use functions that rely on similar
program files that could be classified as data.
According to the iOS 18 Developer Beta
(My current iOS), “includes Caches, Logs and
Other resources in use by the [operating]
system[s]- this value will fluctuate according
to system needs”. Essentially, its not the OS
There should be a new law that states companies are forced to disclose the actual available storage to the customer not the size of the storage unit itself.
I felt this was necessary the day I bought my first phone. It was advertised as 8GB but I only got about 4GB of available storage.
THIS!!!
That's the thing... the system storage isn't really taking that much it's just the partition where it CAN use 89 gigs but if you do some modding you can use that up but just know that your phone might end up replacing your files with its own.
@@AX_001that also happened to me
the apps are clarified as "system" apps
or they just downloaded some weird shit in 4k on a system app
Meanwhile Xiaomi:
System files: 10.03 GB
System: 11.77 GB
my poco x5 5g is 16.42 GB its on MUI 14
iPhone 14Pro Max 9.83GB
@@malcomxxx4592 your phone is still new so it doesn't have many system updates to take up your storage 👁️👄👁️
OK, what's the total storage and what storage does the box state? Bet they don't match. Xiaomi doesn't state the missing conversion space. That's all. They're the same.
@@Kwijiboi my phone's storage and ram all match with the box it comes with :/
Bro did not just say “memory” when talking about the internal storage 😂
What's the system doing?
Ans:- collecting storage tax
I remember having no storage besides floppy disks and paying an arm and a leg to get 4 MB more memory
That must have been ages ago 😭💀
And then you got it and said "Damn, this memory is going to last forever" lol
Damn, u lived during the stone age or something?
I had a huge floppy 512mb and I thought I was rockin 😆
Bro I wasted 4 MB data while replying to your comment.
This is System+Apps. If you give permission to read apps. Then it will reduce. You can see beside Apps section, no storage size is mentioned.
this
True !
Yupp
He probably did it for views
But people need a thing called brain, to think about this.
That is the LLM for local AI tasks.
One UI is a lot heavy than you expect
If you click the I on apps, it will tell you to give "My Files" additional permissions. Do this and that size will drop down as it is the overall size of system AND apps.
exactly
Where do you find where it tells you to give my files additional permissions? Under my permissions it just has it at none of not allowed permissions
Did that stayed the same
When I did this it dropped by nearly 30gig
4gb 😭😭
It’s trying to beat the size of most modern games.💀
Warzone be trembling
It already beat the size of bare Windows 10 installation.
88 gigs of Pre installed corn vids.
i remember the times when systems used 2gb storage
My man doesn't know his "Apps" taking most of that space. If you take a closer look, he has not given permission to the settings for measuring the total size of the "Apps" in this list, and there is an exclamation point in front of it.
The more recent Samsung phones have the system occupying that much space and it scales with the storage it comes with, it's not just apps without permission
Edit: on wan show, linus from LTT opened a new phone that had nothing installed and had a system size this big and checked the apps live unable to fimd a reason for it
U made good point
His app are part of the system prbly he have more apps installed thank the other video
@Dark Lyght I just checked my s22 ultra- after giving permission for files to read app storage it went from 55gb system storage > 27gb. I dunno why ur in the comments arguing and quoting LTT videos if you don't even own the phone yourself??
@@allan12ish i do have a s22 ultra, and i did find it weird when i got it that so much space was being used compared to my previous phone (s9+)... Mine at the moment has 36GB of system and it had around this much when i got it too. I always found it weird but didn't really care and only noticed that it is getting worse when i saw the video on LTT
Same I was shocked mine was showing 147GB being used. But after sorting the permissions it now shows 58GB. Still pretty high tbf
Bro, 90GB is almost my entire computer storage capacity 😭😭😭😭
Lol same 😂😂
Lol bro my pc has 100 times more (almost 9 Tb )
Bro has PC from 1998. I have 4TB and it still feels too low
why do u need 9Tb @@Directx11cool
Do you live in the 2000s?
The way he said "did u just say...."" It's like arvind mere sathi says... Hahaha
Theres actually a setting you gotta change because some apps will appear in the system storage when they shouldn't
where
Nah the storage inflation💀
Fragmentation problem. Android does not offers: "Defragmentation" .
So all that fragmented up space is unusable and is included as system. That is why android storage space keeps getting more and more Used with time without any barrier or stoppage. And your phone dies at the end.
Huawei has released a new smarphone OS which is 3 times efficient than the linux kernal (written about 45 years ago). I can only hope it would be at least open source and Sweeten smartphone users' experience. Because Google never had better employees. They just hire the fresh college passouts. Reason for all our bad user storage experience on Android . You know how opposite is the Windows Operating system to android in terms of storage management.
@@truearmy1953You okay there buddy? Do you need help?
@@truearmy1953defrag is for hard drives 😂
@@truearmy1953 hmm makes sense
@@truearmy1953isn’t flash storages does not need defragmentation? i know this cuz google said u need to turn off defrag (in laptop ssd’s) since it is not needed and will deteriorate your tbw
System is larger than entire forza horizon 5 😂
not true
forza is more than 100gb
lol 🤦♂️
I have Forza Horizon 5 with bundles and it takes 170gb xd
How are y'all affording this pls?@@zarnya
Not even my iPhone 14 has these system taxes😭 Only tax is the random load of apps I install💀
Him: what's the system doing🤔🤔🤔
System: Nothing just hanging around 😅😅
Notice that your apps data is hidden... you need to give it permission otherwise it counts it as system storage
My system still takes 30GB of storage even after that
@@unborngaming373yoooo mannn it's running virtual machine in windows then to display android
@@unborngaming373Part of it is how storage is sold. When you buy 512gb of storage, you actually get 465gb usable, happens with HDD/SSDs and with SD cards too.
@unborngaming373 I'm at 17.64gb on the one ui 6 beta, was much higher before so may be worth switching over. Plus it's awesome.
So let me clear some confusion here, some people are saying the system storage is accounting for the apps and while that may have been true on the older samsungs it's not on the newer s22 and beyond but what it does do which makes that sort of true is that the system accounts for apk's for installing apps and that registers under system storage so in a sense yes apps show under the system storage but only the installation files for the apps.
I bet they are hiding Gold Mine Secrets in the root folder 💀
my system is using 40gb un-rooted s23 ultra 256gb storage
no need for that we have secure folder also the separate download folder for samsung Internet
it’s probably the operating system because of how much it takes
Now this is called tax😂😂😂.
This storage is for redundancy, it is a space intended for copies of everything you save. If something gets corrupted or there is a problem, it uses this copy to fix it, this space is based on the total size of your storage.
Sorry for my English, it's not the language I originally speak
Your English is amazing, and we likely wouldn't even have noticed if you haven't said anything about it. Give yourself a pat on the back! ❤
It's not for redundancy actually. The truth is the storage taken by Apps is added to "system" due to some permission issues.
It can be fixed by pressing the exclamation mark and doing what it asks you to do.
That is not possible, the apps will have a fixed size or may vary a bit, but it is more belivable what the other guy said, redunfancy, apps wonr increase its size based on how much internal storage you have in different devices@@bengerlorf8765
@@bengerlorf8765u can reduce it?
@@bengerlorf8765 wrong. this dude in the vid literally has 10gb worth of apps and his system storage is 89gb still. what apps are you talking about?
No it's because it's combined with your apps usage data. So tap on that "i" icon on the apps then allow file manager. Then you can see the apps usage data.
Yeah but a phone with 89gb occupied out of the box is still pretty stupid.
That's why i always respect companies who offer an sd card slot
@@gabrielaleactus9932 its not 89gb occupied out of box
The apps might be using like 30 gb, and 60 gb for system is still a lot
@@eveningafterrain it is not 60GB. It is GB vs GiB units. Storage is 512GB but android uses GiB which is 476. That difference is added to system. Other phones usually does not say 512GB available storage but 476 and system is smaller
Same for hard drives on windows. 1TB drive shows about 932GB only. Cuz windows count kB as 1024 bytes which should be kiB unit as kB is 1000 bytes. MacOS and iOS devices counts kB correctly as 1000 bytes. So 1TB drive will be shown as 1TB or 1000GB not as 932 in windows
we got storage taxes before gta VI
And That's the things that makes a phone great.
That is really a damn good question what is the system doing?
Samsung decided to incorporate GB to GiB conversion into system so.. 512GB = 477 GiB.
@@BoomNoBasticok but still they're using a sizable amount of storage and he is asking why?
Like @josevela3797 said, they just simplified the numbers for non IT people. The real storage is 477GB (because of allocation, byte conversion etc). So it will be weird to tell users that the storage is 512GB, system files is, let's say 11GB, but then you do the math and you're like where all the rest of GB went??
@basantatamang2249 the system doesn't actually using more storage any loss in the conversion is just added to the system
Well it compose of android OS, Kernel/framework, bootloader, page file (i forgot the other term in phone but it is a Virtual RAM) and samsung bloatapps along with file system allocation which is actually 477GB. Combine those and you'll get that.
I honestly think they should never count the storage the OS takes up when talking about how much storage you have... it feels like a scam....
Fr. But since people will still buy it no matter how absurd the price is im sure these big companies could care less lmao
Because it is
These companies literally cut ever corner they can for profit
Let me ask you this.
You buy a 2tb hard drive. You install windows on that drive and it takes up 100gb. Does that mean that 2tb hd is now 1.9tb? No. Same here. The flash chip doesnt do that. It's not a scam, it's it's literal storage. Free space on first boot is what your saying you want but truth of the matter is that can vary too.
TLDR, it's really complicated. Free space on first boot is what you want, not total storage.
@@Joe-xr2xlyou're buying a hard disk for the storage, and you can do what you want with that storage.
When you're buying a 128 gb device advertised as such you're paying for 128 gb storage that you can use, not the phone using up such a huge portion of that space
@Joe-xr2xl if I go out and buy a 120gb SSD specifically to install the recent CoD that (for arguments sake) requires 120gb of space, and I find out I only have 118gb, I didn't get what was paid for.
Yes, they vary. No, it's not something people should just accept. Likewise if the SSD had exactly 120gb, and I installed it, only to learn the drive had a partition of 3gb for system stuff that can't be removed, they've not sold me a 120gb drive. They've sold me a 117gb drive.
Drives are sold on usable space. Not theoretical space you'll never be able to use because half of it is being eaten up by the system.
And this is how we can get huge boost perfomance!
Delete all of the system files just like we do with system32 on windows to have better performance!
Bro's system is 4x a fresh windows install
Photos is literally 90% of my storage
Turns out 50,000 photos isn’t very storage efficient
@SUJOY 3,600
Damn do you picture every minute of your life or something 😂which phone you got. Detele some of the duplicate ones 😂
@@manan-543 iPhone XS Max 256gb (extra 50gb from iCloud storage) and I take Alot of pics of dumb shit
18,600 pics of a lobster
And a collective ofc20,000 pics of some stuff I drew
So yea I think I might need to delete some 😅😅
mine is videos
50,000 wtf 🧐🧐
This is why we need MicroSD support folks. The reasoning behind the removal was absolutely bogus. We should've not bought the S21, instead we bent over and took it. Major loss.
I have a 128 gig one and I cant transfer anything over
I doubled my storage with an sd card on my note 10 plus. I which it was still a thing. But you know, I thought by now we'd have like 512gb be default by now since you know, the standard config on the note 10 plus, the phone I have and bought 5 years ago, was 256, so knowing how continuous numbers go, I thought we'd already have 512 be the base model.
@@vali69 The real crime is the s23 has a 128GB option 😂
@@Chasethedummy128GB in 2024 is insane, some phones have half that in RAM 😂
@@menace2society00 yep, that's one of the worst parts of the last 5 years of phones, releasing all base models with only 128gb
And 99% of the "system" storage is stuff we are going to be using once in our life
Finally, a legendary opponent for IRS
I remember my first smartphone. A Samsung Galaxy Ace with a pretty solid 512MB of internal storage. I later upgraded to the Motorola G2 with a whopping 8GB of internal storage. Storage these days is getting crazy xD
I am still using 3 gb ram and 16 gb storage
My first phone was a an Ace to but I am pretty sure 512 Mb was the ram the storage was 4GB and the system ironically used 1.9GB on a fresh reset and 2.5 gB when all apps where up to date 😂
Man I low key miss my Samsung galaxy ace…
I used 127GB out of 128GB, i clear my internal storage every month but still💀
Press the info button next to apps. System storage is showing your app storage included. Therefore the higher storage used.
Finaly a person with brain
Well my 256gig version uses over 40GB for system only without apps 😎
@@peterkolesar4020 good for you .now you can download pron in 4k 👍👍
Well some phones already exculuded apps strorage
Finally, a true Samsung user
that system is halding the entire GPT-4 model inside.
I remember 4 gig iPod nano’s only had like 3.6 gigs or something and even that I was like “yo gimme my songs!!”
I always thought that manufacturers should up the memory to make up for all the system storage that is already used up.
Remember that as your storage gets larger, formatted storage size will follow.
yeah and thats makes system running morefaster,
Yes
But this much happens only for phones
What’s the use of it?
@@maharaj8460 might be wrong but I think it’s the lack of knowledge on tech by the general public that forces companies to do this.
For example, storage devices perform best when 10% of the drive is free. So some of this storage goes into the actual OS and perhaps the rest is ensuring that 10% of storage remains free to ensure system stanility
Funny you mention that. I got the 1 Terabyte version and right out of the box it took 100 gigs of system storage
Don't worry you have 900 gigs of space left your good bro
What about 2TB version? 250gb of system?
@@noily8974 bruh
@@noily8974 I remember seeing an s23 with 512 gb and it takes up 251 gb of system 😂
I think it needs 100 GB for the system to run
Why call of duty take so much space?
System Storage: Allow me to Introduce Space
* 1960s computers calculating the moon landing with 1 GB of storage maximum *
*Meanwhile modern phones taking up 89 gb:*
Solving that question "What is the system doing" is impossible.
They store your deleted files which you can recover when you need they get stored in compressed form
turns out your free google drive storage is just your phones local storage
it looks like i just made a new conspiracy theory
🤣
Is it actually?
@@ShahNewaz1 absolutely not.. just kidding...
It’s porn to be honest 😂
No. It's this dude System storage
It has a whole galaxy in that 89 GB space...damn 😂
bro most pc games are under that 💀💀
😂 I thinking you should tag to MKBHD for the answer 😂
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