I’m a retired psychiatric nurse, I worked in a big mental hospital from the age of 16 and I’ve never, ever been attacked by a patient, I even lived in the nurses home in the hospital and would quite happily walk through the grounds in the wee small hours of the morning. I have however been punched, slapped and kicked by my now ex husband and ex partner. I’m now happily single as I must be a poor picker of partners, so that’s the way I’ll stay, single and unbruised. 😂
I was diagnosed with a BiPolar disorder in 2006. To draw an analogy with this topic, in July 2024 a local Parish Council imposed their newly adopted Vexatious Complaints Policy against myself, in response to a number of emails requesting information and a Data Subject Access request. There is no right of appeal. This ‘weapon’ is gathering pace and being adopted across 10000 parish Councils (the lowest tier of local democracy) in existence. The result of which these Councillors and/or staff are no longer subject to scrutiny and/or accountability from their parishioners. In other words local people who these councillors represent are being ‘gagged’. I allege these new measures are going to have an effect on people such as myself. Is this not a form of political violence? Dr Paul Duckett, please keep up the good work you do. It is much appreciated. I would also draw your attention to Sir Julian Lewis’ motion brought to Parliament 9 May 2024 about Bullying in Parish Councils. It is in UA-cam (toward the end) and also on Hansard.
That sounds like a really awful experience and a terrible practice. Vexatious complaints are a thing, but to hear that this could be used to push back on genuine complaints or even genuine questioning and scrutiny is shameful. The effects are quite violent if it suppresses dessent. I had a look at that mention in Hansard and it does seem concerning. It's a feature of the wrong people being given positions of authority and the wrong positions being given the powers of authority. p
I am very new to your channel but am so thankful that i came across you due to your videos regarding the post office inquiry. I couldn't imagine harming anybody other than myself. I managed to break free from physical self-harm.
I am so sorry for my late acknowledgement of your comment. Great to hear from you and welcome to my channel. Most of us our gentle folk, so you are in good company :)
Wise words. It’s all too easy to use the term mental illness inappropriately. It gives a hideously bad view of people who are genuinely suffering from mental illness and genuinely need help. They don’t need a label that instills fear and condemnation. They need support. Another great post Dr Duckett. Thank you! 🙏
I am so sorry for taking so long to acknowledge your comment. Just wanted to say a bit thank you for your generous words and encouragement. I agree with you point about labels. Well said! p
Thankyou Very perceptive I really like how you bring a “World Event “ down to the reality of ordinary everyday life /people- us all Mad Mental off their heid is bandied about completely thoughtlessly A blanket explain all for any negative behaviour I definitely do it myself as well - not associating what I’m saying with any repercussions there might be with any person I know who happens to be mentally ill I should definitely think more now before I speak
I really find your posts interesting. You make me think in a way I never thought possible. Thank you. I have a question, why did you say 'sorry' at the end? Probably for the same reason I always say 'sorry', even when afterwards, I wonder why I did?
Paul is English. As am I. We say sorry a lot. It might be unconscious guilt for all that empire stuff. As it happens, in the 1980s there was a very funny sitcom by that name, starring Ronnie Corbett. I tend to go on a bit. Sorry.
@@stephenpowers51 Yes, I guess it is an English trait, for reasons and more you mention. I remember the sitcom, it was regular viewing. My Dad instilled in me a love of sitcoms!
Yep, it's because I am english! if I walk into a lamp post, i will apologies to the lamp post and Stephen (comment below) is right, it's probably guilt for colonising so many countries and all the other bad stuff us lot got up to. Oh, and I am so sorry for taking so long to acknowledge your comment. :)
Yes,I too have used that label. It's to try and understand and make sense of violent behaviour. It's simplistic,too much so. Thanks for your ideas. I will re-think
Maggie, I am so sorry for taking so long to acknowledge your comment. Just want to say thank you for your kindness in replying - and for being so open to new ideas :) p
Another brilliant commentary. I worked with adults with learning disabilities for 25 years and saw daily that many "normal" people were scared of them for absolutely no reason at all and without any evidence to back up their views. Just plain old ignorance and prejudice.
Hello Paul, and thank you for all you put up here. I'm no clinician, just a guy 'in recovery', and I hear the labels 'depression', and 'anxiety' bandied around a lot, others too, including by people who claim to have been diagnosed thus. How much, if at all, would you say such terms are accurately (that is, scientifically, clinically) applied? Put another way, how much, if at all, has the term 'mental health' served to cloud the issue of mental illness, in your view? I have an ignorant opinion, which you can probably surmise quite easily; I'm genuinely interested to hear what yours is. (Ooh, how about a piece on Jason Beer? What a guy! I do have very high regard also for the female lead barristers asking questions, they have a deceptive, disarming way of wielding their scalpels.) Best wishes x
I wish you continued strength through your 'recovery'. Recovery from anything is not easy, but you being so open in your comment seems to me like such a positive attribute to help you on your way. Hope you do not mind me saying that. ☺️
@@fickle49 Mind? I’m delighted, and really appreciate you taking time to write. For me, recovery is easy. That might be due to age, experience. But mainly I think it’s because I want it enough, and want it to be easy. It’s just a mind game, after all. I have the same attitude to faith. It comes easily to me (God, redemption, etc) because I can do it-that is, have faith-that way. Thanks again, really glad to have this chance to share. X
@@maggiegray1698 Comparisons with what? Who? Look closely, and you'll see I said, "For me, recovery is easy." Just me, no one else. I try to avoid comparison in any way. If you inferred otherwise, the implication wasn't intended. Good luck with whatever you're doing. Sincerely, always... x
Wise words indeed. Trump himself is one of the worst people for labelling anyone who carries out a violent act as mentally ill. He is repulsive for that and many other reasons.
Not wishing to protract this debate, and notwithstanding what you discuss in this video. Would it be possible for you, to discuss when one is labelled 'vexatious' without proper consideration, how this affects people like myself? Though I have a personal interest in this topic, I would like to raise awareness for those who come after me. Hope this makes sense.
Opinion... warning I know absolutely nothing about this subject of mental illness/incapacity, so shot me down at every turn if I'm off kilter. Whenever I hear the term Mental Illness I don't always see a 'permanent' condition, just as Influenza isn't a permanent condition but Rabies is. Any illness, I think, can be of indeterminate length and subject to remission if the person is 'lucky', I can't see that mental illness as being any different intrinsically. I knew Michael Ryan (Hungerford Massacre) and he was a terrible fantasist, he was chubby but thought he was in the SAS every so often, talking as if that was part of his 'past'. Not all the time, just when he suffered another bout of 'mind flu', he was taken away by a fantasy in the same way, I guess, as a severe 'flu can cause delirium in the rest of us, if it's a bad one. It's my belief, with I admit, no evidence, is we see all mental illness as ALWAYS some sort of 'Hard Wired' anomaly rather than something more subtle and indeed unstable and more akin to Malaria in that in comes and goes (bouts). There are of course Hard Wired mental illnesses, genetic and injury are two that spring to mind. It's the society wide idea of permanence that might be best addressed as it would lead people to be more tolerant if they realised they too could catch a bit of 'Mind Flu' and go 'mad' as a result. Shoot me down, I KNOW nothing and I have a thick skin. Chris.
I remember Hungerford very well and found it the most unbelievable tragedy to have happened in the UK at that time. And I understand only too well the analogy of temporary 'mind flu' as you so cogently put it. In January 2021, I was very badly treated by a so-called caring housing organisation for people over the age of 55, and an NHS patient transport service driver (NOT a paramedic as he claimed). I had my Data Protection and other Human Rights abused. Because of COVID and the horrific state of the UK legal system I've had no redress for they did. My situation also involved being verbally abused and physically threatened by several other residents in the building where I lived, forcing me to leave my flat more quickly than I had planned, and hide myself away from virtually everyone including my own family for over a year! I lived on various campsites in my car or in a tent, which I was barely able to manage because of my physical disabilities. But as is usual in certain situations, fear and paranoia can be useful helpmates and mentors. Ironically, it was these feelings that sustained me and actually helped me to recover to the point where I am today. But I still feel so dreadfully angry! And I cannot begin to tell you the dark thoughts of revenge that go through my mind, although they have eased off slightly now. But I still feel the need to make people listen to what happened to me. But the one thing that stops me from taking revenge is not that it's morally, ethically or even legally wrong, it is that I would spend the rest of my life in prison or an asylum for the criminally insane! I'm 66 so my life would effectively be over. Worse still, is the distinct possibility of spending the rest of eternity wondering what that little red dot was on my body as the local SWAT team did what they have been trained to do! Thankfully, I am much better now and am concentrating on being heard through my poetry! As violence begets violence, I will confine my actions to writing. 🙏⚖️🙏
@@BoadiceanRevenge I am inadequate to know what to say, except that is (in my mind) an extraordinary testimony to your perseverance and strength of YOUR mind that you have not fallen to anger and the likely 'suggestions' within it of doing something it retaliation or revenge. I'd be proud to have endured all of that and be sat the other side of it to tell the tale.
@@BoadiceanRevenge If I can chip in. While your story is very different from mine, I also got things (deep-rooted emotional baggage) off my chest through writing it down. A very therapeutic exercise. From one stranger to another, I wish you all the best.
I am so sorry for my late acknowledgement of your comment. There's no way I'd shoot you down for your views :) You know more than you realise. I think you make an excellent point about how society has this idea of permanence about our identities - that we are not fluid, flexible folk who can change from one moment to the next. I think we are thought of as rather static and inflexible and once we are typed, we remain that type. That is administratively very effective - you put someone in a box and you can be confident they are going to remain in the box. I think you view on this is much more humane. Thanks so much for posting. p
Hi Paul !!! I find your perspective very enlightening, casting an indepth, personal view, on how many in the populations could silently suffer over this. And, I'd like to touch on a very pertinent, and perceptive point which you've made..being that, of bullying. And whilst I've heard no other state such an idea, and I've no more knowledge of the shooter than anyone else, its my personal view that this young man was NOT mentally ill, but instead, thoroughly willing to stand against that which he abhorred. He was a Republican, just like Donald Trump. He was only 20, so would've been too young to have voted when Biden won in 2020. His mother was a democrat, and would've cast her vote for Biden. The family witnessed the outrageous bullying of Trump refusing to accept defeat, and bullying Biden. It is my belief, that he was a conservative republican, and did not want his only choice to be Trump, for his first time voting. To him, the statement about Trump needed to be made. Die for your country, if need be. We know his old classmate states that Thos. Crooks was bullied throughout school. I believe, he just went after the Supreme Bully of them all...to save himself, or at least his parents, and his country. And i in no way glorify this action, not at all !! But...i feel that was this individual's motivation. However, you state yet another backlash, which had not occurred to me. So thank you ❤
I am so sorry for taking so long to acknowledge your comment. I really like your thoughts on this. Explaining isn't the same as excusing, so good to see you thinking about those reasons for why that young man did this thing. Thanks so much for sharing. p
The term mental illness is a controlling mechanism that is used to taint and portray anyone who thinks, speaks, acts, etc as being not normal, sub normal when all the time there is not one human who has been born or will be born that could ever be the definitive model of this so called normality. Normality is merely a theory that is an unachievable goal simply because of the infinite differences in the human mindsets. Modern lifestyles especially have impacted the human psych and this in affect dominates everything about us, ie, as we are taken in overdrive into the technological age we are losing our true sense of being a life form that is inherently a natural being and who are most fulfilled when living with and feeling to be a part of the natural scheme. Society has so called acceptable morals, standards, behaviours and the question to ask is who actually decided that these particular sets should be adopted and approved and enforced as guiding principles for all to live daily by ?. Were the common masses allowed to cast a vote or were these life standards decided upon and instilled by a class of elites and therefore only they set the standards compass while all the time possessing no personal standards themselves ?. What a tremendous way of controlling the masses by defining what normal is and setting the punishments for stepping outside of the induced fine lines while at the same time offering for a price the saviour to alleviate your mental illness in the form of medication or a therapist and thus you have created, perpetuated and solved the problem. Conclusion, there has never been any two things that are truly and exactly identical in the most minuscule aspect and the universe is a wonderful example of difference and diversity, stable and erratic, safe and dangerous, calm yet threatening, so does this mean that the universe has an illness ?
I am so sorry for my late acknowledgement of your comment. Just wanted to say a bit thank you for this great post and for the care and time you took in putting those thoughts together. I thought it was really valuable and thank you so much for posting it. We'll all benefit from your thoughts. p
Is religious indoctrination and zealotry to the point of extremism and terrorism equal to mental illness ? It is so often used as a defence. If it is such an illness then it is caused and engendered by the indoctrination and should be recognised as such.
It makes my blood boil hearing people bandy pat phrases and judgements around with smug all-knowing certitude. We glibly spout popular catch-all thought bubbles and memes without any effort to dissect so-called facts from propaganda. I'll dismount my hobby horse now.
‘Reporter likely male and mentally ill’. Personally, I managed to avoid this irresponsible, real-time speculation (rather than reporting) on the mental health of the perpetrator of the Trump shooting incident. You make a valid point, however, given the short time frame and the general awareness of patient confidentiality, I wonder how many people would actually give it much credence. I suspect that those who are unsympathetic to the mentally ill are already that way inclined. Your observation that people suffering from mental health issues might feel further marginalised, or even threatened though, is, I imagine, not something that the wider population has given much thought to - me included. As a wider comment on the media, Ian Hislop’s documentary, Fake News: A True Story, which takes a historical look at reporting and the media, is good background, and shows that the only thing that has really changed is the speed at which we can consume media product.
So sorry for taking so long to acknowledge your comment. You make a really fair point and yes, Ian Hislop has an excellent take on all this. Thanks so much for posting. p
The labelling of mental illness, when there has been no, as yet, no evidence of this is astounding. There are many things that sre described as mental illness that are not mental illnesses as far as I am concerned. Take for example the many reasons that someone can suffer from depression, whether that is from reduced seratonin levels, life experiences, etc. Plus the likelihood that people who knew him will not have recognised signs of illness, as is often the case with young men who commit suicides and when it happens everyone is shocked. Sorry its a long one, but just to say we mustn't jump to conclusions.
I am so sorry for taking so long to acknowledge your comment. not sure that this was faked, but I think he used it to his advantage, so it was theatre in that sense. Thanks for posting. It was good to think about this. p
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I’m a retired psychiatric nurse, I worked in a big mental hospital from the age of 16 and I’ve never, ever been attacked by a patient, I even lived in the nurses home in the hospital and would quite happily walk through the grounds in the wee small hours of the morning. I have however been punched, slapped and kicked by my now ex husband and ex partner. I’m now happily single as I must be a poor picker of partners, so that’s the way I’ll stay, single and unbruised. 😂
Spot on. Thank you for just "getting that out there"! ❤
I was diagnosed with a BiPolar disorder in 2006. To draw an analogy with this topic, in July 2024 a local Parish Council imposed their newly adopted Vexatious Complaints Policy against myself, in response to a number of emails requesting information and a Data Subject Access request. There is no right of appeal. This ‘weapon’ is gathering pace and being adopted across 10000 parish Councils (the lowest tier of local democracy) in existence. The result of which these Councillors and/or staff are no longer subject to scrutiny and/or accountability from their parishioners. In other words local people who these councillors represent are being ‘gagged’. I allege these new measures are going to have an effect on people such as myself. Is this not a form of political violence? Dr Paul Duckett, please keep up the good work you do. It is much appreciated.
I would also draw your attention to Sir Julian Lewis’ motion brought to Parliament 9 May 2024 about Bullying in Parish Councils. It is in UA-cam (toward the end) and also on Hansard.
That sounds like a really awful experience and a terrible practice. Vexatious complaints are a thing, but to hear that this could be used to push back on genuine complaints or even genuine questioning and scrutiny is shameful. The effects are quite violent if it suppresses dessent. I had a look at that mention in Hansard and it does seem concerning. It's a feature of the wrong people being given positions of authority and the wrong positions being given the powers of authority.
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I am very new to your channel but am so thankful that i came across you due to your videos regarding the post office inquiry. I couldn't imagine harming anybody other than myself. I managed to break free from physical self-harm.
I am so sorry for my late acknowledgement of your comment. Great to hear from you and welcome to my channel. Most of us our gentle folk, so you are in good company :)
Wise words. It’s all too easy to use the term mental illness inappropriately. It gives a hideously bad view of people who are genuinely suffering from mental illness and genuinely need help. They don’t need a label that instills fear and condemnation. They need support. Another great post Dr Duckett. Thank you! 🙏
I am so sorry for taking so long to acknowledge your comment. Just wanted to say a bit thank you for your generous words and encouragement. I agree with you point about labels. Well said!
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Thankyou
Very perceptive
I really like how you bring a “World Event “ down to the reality of ordinary everyday life /people- us all
Mad Mental off their heid is bandied about completely thoughtlessly
A blanket explain all for any negative behaviour
I definitely do it myself as well - not associating what I’m saying with any repercussions there might be with any person I know who happens to be mentally ill
I should definitely think more now before I speak
I really find your posts interesting. You make me think in a way I never thought possible. Thank you. I have a question, why did you say 'sorry' at the end? Probably for the same reason I always say 'sorry', even when afterwards, I wonder why I did?
Paul is English. As am I. We say sorry a lot. It might be unconscious guilt for all that empire stuff. As it happens, in the 1980s there was a very funny sitcom by that name, starring Ronnie Corbett. I tend to go on a bit. Sorry.
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Yes, I guess it is an English trait, for reasons and more you mention. I remember the sitcom, it was regular viewing. My Dad instilled in me a love of sitcoms!
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Don't apologise...
Sorry!
Yep, it's because I am english! if I walk into a lamp post, i will apologies to the lamp post and Stephen (comment below) is right, it's probably guilt for colonising so many countries and all the other bad stuff us lot got up to. Oh, and I am so sorry for taking so long to acknowledge your comment. :)
Yes spot on. You'll be glad to know Timothy Lumsden makes an appearance in the Tim Parker video I just posted :)
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Well said, once again, Dr Duckett.
Hi Melanie. I am so sorry for taking so long to acknowledge your comment. Thanks so much for your encouragment :)
Yes,I too have used that label.
It's to try and understand and make sense of violent behaviour. It's simplistic,too much so.
Thanks for your ideas. I will re-think
Maggie, I am so sorry for taking so long to acknowledge your comment. Just want to say thank you for your kindness in replying - and for being so open to new ideas :)
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Another brilliant commentary. I worked with adults with learning disabilities for 25 years and saw daily that many "normal" people were scared of them for absolutely no reason at all and without any evidence to back up their views. Just plain old ignorance and prejudice.
Blaming mental illness is a red herring to replace sane gun laws. Imho. Thank you for your compassionate video.
Hello Paul, and thank you for all you put up here. I'm no clinician, just a guy 'in recovery', and I hear the labels 'depression', and 'anxiety' bandied around a lot, others too, including by people who claim to have been diagnosed thus. How much, if at all, would you say such terms are accurately (that is, scientifically, clinically) applied? Put another way, how much, if at all, has the term 'mental health' served to cloud the issue of mental illness, in your view? I have an ignorant opinion, which you can probably surmise quite easily; I'm genuinely interested to hear what yours is. (Ooh, how about a piece on Jason Beer? What a guy! I do have very high regard also for the female lead barristers asking questions, they have a deceptive, disarming way of wielding their scalpels.) Best wishes x
I wish you continued strength through your 'recovery'. Recovery from anything is not easy, but you being so open in your comment seems to me like such a positive attribute to help you on your way. Hope you do not mind me saying that. ☺️
@@fickle49 Mind? I’m delighted, and really appreciate you taking time to write. For me, recovery is easy. That might be due to age, experience. But mainly I think it’s because I want it enough, and want it to be easy. It’s just a mind game, after all. I have the same attitude to faith. It comes easily to me (God, redemption, etc) because I can do it-that is, have faith-that way. Thanks again, really glad to have this chance to share. X
Yep,Jason Beer is great but gives nothing away. Quite rightly as the inquiry is not about him. Interestingly he has Aboriginal roots.
@@stephenpowers51Easy?? An alarm bell is ringing. Maybe comparisons are being made. I too am recovering.
@@maggiegray1698 Comparisons with what? Who? Look closely, and you'll see I said, "For me, recovery is easy." Just me, no one else. I try to avoid comparison in any way. If you inferred otherwise, the implication wasn't intended. Good luck with whatever you're doing. Sincerely, always... x
Wise words indeed. Trump himself is one of the worst people for labelling anyone who carries out a violent act as mentally ill. He is repulsive for that and many other reasons.
Not wishing to protract this debate, and notwithstanding what you discuss in this video. Would it be possible for you, to discuss when one is labelled 'vexatious' without proper consideration, how this affects people like myself? Though I have a personal interest in this topic, I would like to raise awareness for those who come after me. Hope this makes sense.
Opinion... warning I know absolutely nothing about this subject of mental illness/incapacity, so shot me down at every turn if I'm off kilter.
Whenever I hear the term Mental Illness I don't always see a 'permanent' condition, just as Influenza isn't a permanent condition but Rabies is. Any illness, I think, can be of indeterminate length and subject to remission if the person is 'lucky', I can't see that mental illness as being any different intrinsically. I knew Michael Ryan (Hungerford Massacre) and he was a terrible fantasist, he was chubby but thought he was in the SAS every so often, talking as if that was part of his 'past'. Not all the time, just when he suffered another bout of 'mind flu', he was taken away by a fantasy in the same way, I guess, as a severe 'flu can cause delirium in the rest of us, if it's a bad one.
It's my belief, with I admit, no evidence, is we see all mental illness as ALWAYS some sort of 'Hard Wired' anomaly rather than something more subtle and indeed unstable and more akin to Malaria in that in comes and goes (bouts). There are of course Hard Wired mental illnesses, genetic and injury are two that spring to mind.
It's the society wide idea of permanence that might be best addressed as it would lead people to be more tolerant if they realised they too could catch a bit of 'Mind Flu' and go 'mad' as a result. Shoot me down, I KNOW nothing and I have a thick skin.
Chris.
I remember Hungerford very well and found it the most unbelievable tragedy to have happened in the UK at that time. And I understand only too well the analogy of temporary 'mind flu' as you so cogently put it. In January 2021, I was very badly treated by a so-called caring housing organisation for people over the age of 55, and an NHS patient transport service driver (NOT a paramedic as he claimed). I had my Data Protection and other Human Rights abused. Because of COVID and the horrific state of the UK legal system I've had no redress for they did. My situation also involved being verbally abused and physically threatened by several other residents in the building where I lived, forcing me to leave my flat more quickly than I had planned, and hide myself away from virtually everyone including my own family for over a year! I lived on various campsites in my car or in a tent, which I was barely able to manage because of my physical disabilities. But as is usual in certain situations, fear and paranoia can be useful helpmates and mentors. Ironically, it was these feelings that sustained me and actually helped me to recover to the point where I am today. But I still feel so dreadfully angry! And I cannot begin to tell you the dark thoughts of revenge that go through my mind, although they have eased off slightly now. But I still feel the need to make people listen to what happened to me. But the one thing that stops me from taking revenge is not that it's morally, ethically or even legally wrong, it is that I would spend the rest of my life in prison or an asylum for the criminally insane! I'm 66 so my life would effectively be over. Worse still, is the distinct possibility of spending the rest of eternity wondering what that little red dot was on my body as the local SWAT team did what they have been trained to do! Thankfully, I am much better now and am concentrating on being heard through my poetry! As violence begets violence, I will confine my actions to writing. 🙏⚖️🙏
@@BoadiceanRevenge I am inadequate to know what to say, except that is (in my mind) an extraordinary testimony to your perseverance and strength of YOUR mind that you have not fallen to anger and the likely 'suggestions' within it of doing something it retaliation or revenge.
I'd be proud to have endured all of that and be sat the other side of it to tell the tale.
@@BoadiceanRevenge If I can chip in. While your story is very different from mine, I also got things (deep-rooted emotional baggage) off my chest through writing it down. A very therapeutic exercise. From one stranger to another, I wish you all the best.
@@TheStratpicker I return those best wishes in spades.
I am so sorry for my late acknowledgement of your comment. There's no way I'd shoot you down for your views :) You know more than you realise. I think you make an excellent point about how society has this idea of permanence about our identities - that we are not fluid, flexible folk who can change from one moment to the next. I think we are thought of as rather static and inflexible and once we are typed, we remain that type. That is administratively very effective - you put someone in a box and you can be confident they are going to remain in the box. I think you view on this is much more humane. Thanks so much for posting.
p
Hi Paul !!! I find your perspective very enlightening, casting an indepth, personal view, on how many in the populations could silently suffer over this.
And, I'd like to touch on a very pertinent, and perceptive point which you've made..being that, of bullying. And whilst I've heard no other state such an idea, and I've no more knowledge of the shooter than anyone else, its my personal view that this young man was NOT mentally ill, but instead, thoroughly willing to stand against that which he abhorred. He was a Republican, just like Donald Trump. He was only 20, so would've been too young to have voted when Biden won in 2020. His mother was a democrat, and would've cast her vote for Biden. The family witnessed the outrageous bullying of Trump refusing to accept defeat, and bullying Biden. It is my belief, that he was a conservative republican, and did not want his only choice to be Trump, for his first time voting. To him, the statement about Trump needed to be made. Die for your country, if need be. We know his old classmate states that Thos. Crooks was bullied throughout school. I believe, he just went after the Supreme Bully of them all...to save himself, or at least his parents, and his country. And i in no way glorify this action, not at all !! But...i feel that was this individual's motivation. However, you state yet another backlash, which had not occurred to me. So thank you ❤
I am so sorry for taking so long to acknowledge your comment. I really like your thoughts on this. Explaining isn't the same as excusing, so good to see you thinking about those reasons for why that young man did this thing. Thanks so much for sharing.
p
The term mental illness is a controlling mechanism that is used to taint and portray anyone who thinks, speaks, acts, etc as being not normal, sub normal when all the time there is not one human who has been born or will be born that could ever be the definitive model of this so called normality.
Normality is merely a theory that is an unachievable goal simply because of the infinite differences in the human mindsets.
Modern lifestyles especially have impacted the human psych and this in affect dominates everything about us, ie, as we are taken in overdrive into the technological age we are losing our true sense of being a life form that is inherently a natural being and who are most fulfilled when living with and feeling to be a part of the natural scheme.
Society has so called acceptable morals, standards, behaviours and the question to ask is who actually decided that these particular sets should be adopted and approved and enforced as guiding principles for all to live daily by ?.
Were the common masses allowed to cast a vote or were these life standards decided upon and instilled by a class of elites and therefore only they set the standards compass while all the time possessing no personal standards themselves ?.
What a tremendous way of controlling the masses by defining what normal is and setting the punishments for stepping outside of the induced fine lines while at the same time offering for a price the saviour to alleviate your mental illness in the form of medication or a therapist and thus you have created, perpetuated and solved the problem.
Conclusion, there has never been any two things that are truly and exactly identical in the most minuscule aspect and the universe is a wonderful example of difference and diversity, stable and erratic, safe and dangerous, calm yet threatening, so does this mean that the universe has an illness ?
I am so sorry for my late acknowledgement of your comment. Just wanted to say a bit thank you for this great post and for the care and time you took in putting those thoughts together. I thought it was really valuable and thank you so much for posting it. We'll all benefit from your thoughts.
p
Is religious indoctrination and zealotry to the point of extremism and terrorism equal to mental illness ? It is so often used as a defence. If it is such an illness then it is caused and engendered by the indoctrination and should be recognised as such.
It makes my blood boil hearing people bandy pat phrases and judgements around with smug all-knowing certitude. We glibly spout popular catch-all thought bubbles and memes without any effort to dissect so-called facts from propaganda. I'll dismount my hobby horse now.
‘Reporter likely male and mentally ill’.
Personally, I managed to avoid this irresponsible, real-time speculation (rather than reporting) on the mental health of the perpetrator of the Trump shooting incident. You make a valid point, however, given the short time frame and the general awareness of patient confidentiality, I wonder how many people would actually give it much credence. I suspect that those who are unsympathetic to the mentally ill are already that way inclined. Your observation that people suffering from mental health issues might feel further marginalised, or even threatened though, is, I imagine, not something that the wider population has given much thought to - me included.
As a wider comment on the media, Ian Hislop’s documentary, Fake News: A True Story, which takes a historical look at reporting and the media, is good background, and shows that the only thing that has really changed is the speed at which we can consume media product.
So sorry for taking so long to acknowledge your comment. You make a really fair point and yes, Ian Hislop has an excellent take on all this. Thanks so much for posting.
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@@PaulDuckett no worries - busy man.
The labelling of mental illness, when there has been no, as yet, no evidence of this is astounding. There are many things that sre described as mental illness that are not mental illnesses as far as I am concerned. Take for example the many reasons that someone can suffer from depression, whether that is from reduced seratonin levels, life experiences, etc. Plus the likelihood that people who knew him will not have recognised signs of illness, as is often the case with young men who commit suicides and when it happens everyone is shocked. Sorry its a long one, but just to say we mustn't jump to conclusions.
I am so sorry for my late acknowledgement of your comment Andrew. really liked you post and your points are nicely made. Thank you.
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It looked fake..like Reagan's
I am so sorry for taking so long to acknowledge your comment. not sure that this was faked, but I think he used it to his advantage, so it was theatre in that sense. Thanks for posting. It was good to think about this.
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Yawn and yawn again Stick to the post office
Idiot.
Rude!
How utterly charmless, unnecessary, and just, well, rude.
No one is making you watch anything other than what you're interested in 🙏🏼
Hi there. No probs. Hey, just put it on your bedtime playlist in case you need help getting to sleep :)
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