You’re completely right but somehow it’s always felt that way to me. Logically of course the rockets win they obviously do I know that. But internally it just feels like they’d find a way to lose. I can’t comprehend Harden and CP winning a title for some reason. I know they’re great but I’m so conditioned to seeing something go wrong somewhere and it doesn’t happen. My brain knows it’s dumb but inside I feel like SOMETHING would happen and they wouldn’t pull it off.
@@jakeharrison207 it’s because they had the worst luck possible , from missing 27 straight 3s to cp3 getting hurt. Bad officiating. The amount of bad luck needed for them to lose was sad to watch
You guys are weirdos. Calling mj a degenerate cause he left after his father got murdered. His father always wanted him to play baseball so as way to honour his father he took a shot at baseball. Then second time he left Jerry Krause took a sledgehammer to the team and MJ had no interest in rebuilding as they were reigning champions.
No he wouldn’t That worse like Jordan body would have broken down faster he might have lost to the jazz like injury might happened when been spoiled with lebron going to the finals every single Time again and again he a freak of nature’s it usually don’t work that way day he win his 4 straight next year he not betting the rockets or the jazz going forward that too much wear and tear on your body you need rest not everybody bron like say in his 5 straight pippen breakdown and keep breaking down like they ain’t beating the rockets with a pippen breaking down he would and rockets become a toss up Jordan needed that rest and he knew that
The Bron media pundits all picked Bron to win in 17. Shannon Sharpe, Nick Wright, and Colin Cowherd all picked Bron to win because they had the “best player.” Then after the fact they said Bron needed more help.
Nigga he was never gon win in 2017 I called it before they started that series. People who expected him to win are Nut Guzzlers, they’re not realistic. It’s not about who knows more nobody expected the cavs to win in 2017 uh uh
@@battousaithekingslayer9913 Eveyone didn’t know that the Warriors was going to win 5 games like that. I remember Cavs fans saying shit like “Kyrie over Steph, Lebron over KD, and love over Klay”. If you look at their rosters the warriors wasn’t much more talented on paper than the Cavs. It’s just the warriors played better because of their style of offense
@@battousaithekingslayer9913 Cavs were favorites before game 1 because they won the 2016 chip, the announcer literally said it before the game started in game 1
great point marz, before coming into a series yall glaze lebron and say hes gonna beat a team he has no business beating , and once he loses we have to hear from his fans how it wasnt fair lmao
Marz and Ox needs to learn the difference between quitting and retiring. Jordan retired both times the first time his father got murdered in the off-season and he retired in the off-season he had a press conference and everything. The only way you can quit is if you quit during the season. 💯
To Marz, I "keep that same energy" with all team leaders. If you are the leader, you are the main reason for ALL wins and losses, especially in big games. There can be extreme situations where your team falls apart, but as the leader your job is to get the most from your teammates.
According to marz he want the stars to have the accountability of role players which is insane that’s why those guys make the big bucks otherwise they would be role players as well🤷🏿♂️
LeBron fan schedule every season: 1. First two months when the team success starts slow: "OMG fire the coach" (even tho LeBron barely buy in any coach system and play his game regardless of coach.) 2. Month 3 his birthday month mention his longevity in every basketball debate whether LeBron is the topic or not 3. Month 4 LeBron team goes on a few winning streaks: "he is the Goat, he is top 5, (insert LeBron team) will go to the finals. 4. Month 5 and 6 (LeBron teams success slows down) "OMG LeBron needs help, Trade the team, fire the coach, "maybe we can trade such and such for an all-star by the deadline). 5. Month 7 LeBrons team usually do a final push for playoff seeding and win some games: "IT DONT MATTER WHERE WE LAND JUST GET LEBRON IN AND HE WILL GO PLAYOFF MODE" Playoffs: No matter how bad the defense he plays, no matter if he choose to shoot chuck instead of using his size against a clearly smaller defender, no matter the flop baitimg and crying to the refs, no matter the ball stopping, as long as his box score say 25 plus points, a good number of rebounds, and a good number of assist scream "WHAT MORE CAN HE DO"
@@Judahdabutcher9 second year tim ain’t beating the bulls Tim isn’t doing what he did in 99 vs the Knicks he averaged 27 if that’s the bulls with Rodman that’s most likely 25 and decent shooting splits it will probably go 7 and in the spurs wins the will look like the better team but in the but it will come down to late game crunch time and if someone is beating on Tim in 99 over mj in late game Situations ur on dope
@@Judahdabutcher9 that’s why I’m saying it would have been the best carry job ever. That bulls team was already falling apart at the seams with pippen and Rodman declining then on top of that yu playing 2 bigs who are arguably both top 5 at the positions. Like bob said he we wouldn’t have a goat convo
No, he was preaching about any fanbase. Nobody with a brain thought that warriors team was losing to the cavs. Lol. He used one example, he tried to leave out the context of the rockets being injured basically and the rest of the roster being solid. Cavs had a chance of beating them, especially with harden being ass in big moments of the playoffs.
@@battousaithekingslayer9913No he spoke about Bron because only Bron fans do that goofy bs, whenever other players lose it’s always on them Lebron fans r the only ones who blame the team & excuse the best player. & No the cavs had 0 chance in hell, they were the worst defense & matched up horribly against the Rockets. & ur talking as if Lebron hasn’t been ass in big playoff movements thru put his career…wipe ur mouth & get off ur knees lil bruh.
Honestly, it's not crazy to think the bulls wouldn't completely dominate the 90's if Jordan didn't retire, the bulls was just by far a better team then 98% of the teams back then.
I remember, Jimmy highroller did a video and he had the same scenario saying if Jordan joined the Lakers, because he was always saying courtside of the games but he pointed out around the same time Jordan had cut his finger badly with a cigar cutter so maybe that’s what stopped him
Biggest what-ifs of all 1. What if someone sitting in prison right now could have become the greatest basketball player of all time but we'll never know? 2. What if Jordan doesnt get drafted by the Bulls 3. What if Stern doesn't block CP3's move to the Lakers 4. What if Lebron didnt ring chase in his prime, how many rings would he have since he ONLY has 4 after ring chasing? 5. What if Lebron never went to Miami in 2010? Without the BIg 3 existing in Miami, would Kevin Durant and OKC have won a ring in 2012 which probably mean KD doesnt join GSW later in 2017? 6. What if Marz were born female instead, would his name then be Venus? 7. What if Tim Duncan went to Orlando? 8. What if Kareem never left Milwaukee? What happens to Magic Johnson and the Lakers in the 80s? 9. What if Steph Curry never recovered from his ankle injuries early in his career? 10. What if the NBA didnt exist? What would someone like Kevin Garnett be doing right now without basketball?
What if the Rockets accepted the 1984 draft day trade offer from the Trail Blazers for Ralph Sampson. They offered the Rockets Drexler, plus the number 2 pick that they ended up using to select Bowie. This trade would have given the Rockets the opportunity to select Michael Jordan at number 2 right after Hakeem Olajuwon. How many rings do we think the Hakeem, Jordan and Drexler Rockets would have won? Honestly I think they could easily have won more than the Bill Russell Celtics.
@@DerQuanDoucett It would have been so unfair. The Dream blocks a shot, outlets to Air Jordan and Clyde the Glide running the floor. Everyone would have been cooked.
Marz is here to bring order on player choice. When it comes to rational thinking, logic and common sense on breaking down the game he's the best at it and I'm a lebron fan.
@@Ghost-rb6cw it doesn’t he want superstars to be treated as role players when you a leader of a team or a group of people leader takes the blame leader takes the fall it’s all the responsibility that comes with that spot of leader or superstar or both . Bring accountability back
Chill knows good and well Jordan‘s father getting murdered was one of the main reasons why he retired he wanted to play baseball to under his father no one in their right mind thinks he was gonna walk away if that didn’t happen when he had a chance to win 4 in a row but Chill is a Lebron guy 🤣
The “What If” of MJ not quitting is interesting for a lot of reason, like does he even get 6 rings if he keeps playing? What would the contract situation be during that time period too. The biggest thing about the gap is it would alter everything before during and after the second 3 peat and it wouldn’t be an inevitability
@@talaf6616 not just that gap but the gap between the last ring and the wizard years. He would be the all time leading scorer and bron might still be trying to catch it
Why are we acting like that 94 and 95 bulls team is the same team that won in 93. You had your 3rd best player leave and expect to beat the best version of the rockets ever SMFH
Horace left after the 94 season. The 94 team added Kukoc & Kerr. They’re similar if not better. If Jordan sticks around, does Horace leave in the 94 summer free agency?
@@rackball5858Horace is on record saying he didn't like playing with MJ, plus the Magic offered him a contract that the Bulls couldn't match. He was gone regardless.
@@XaviorJordanIt’s a hypothetical, regardless. Not saying he wouldn’t have left. But, the allure of winning a possible 5th straight championship in 95 would have postponed Horace leaving.
oladipo pushed bron to 7 games that 2018, celtics without kyrie and hayward pushed bron to 7 games, but hes gonna beat the rockets????? The same team that will beat the stacked warriors in this hypothetical ??? please stop
@@playoffp2024 we just finished talk about basketball being a team sport but Jordan fanboys can't help themselves as usual, they always have to feel the need to go out there way to make lebron look bad with they're fanboy takes. Hey fanboy, you do realize olidipo pacers were a better team right?
@@Ghost-rb6cw bro wtf are yu talking about? He didn’t say the cavs was better, he saying bron and the Cavs where scrapping by teams who are in a whole tier below the rockets if not two tiers so expecting him to automatically beat the rockets is just stupid.
@@TOKYO9AIN that’s what he is saying. He barley beating those teams so why on earth would we think he go beat a rocket team who is clearly better than the teams he is barley beating in 7 game series
Fandom is on twitter where your opinion is heard real life is you when u have no social media and out of the loop marz gave a excellent point real life opinions are not heard or on tv
@@dmv_p the fact all 4 games was decided I think by a average of 6 points and he played that bad is crazy. If he just had his regular season averages they might win the series
No he didn’t 😂, he was having to solo squad a dynasty at 22yo. Duncan even said “we guarded him with 5 guys”. I think I saw an interview with Some of the player and Pop even laughed about how sorry that Cavs team was.
Not true … Lebron played horribly in 2007 and hist teammates didn’t. Finals stats: Lebron: 22ppg / 7r / 6.8a on 35.6 FG% / 20 3FG% / 69 FT% / 5.8 TOV / in 42.5 mpg Drew Dooden: 12.8 ppg / 8.3r / 0.3a on 50 FG% / 0 3FG% / 87.5 FT% / in 27.5 mpg Boobie Gibson: 10.8 ppg / 1.8r / 2.5a on 43 FG% / 32 3FG% / 100 FT% / in 34.8 mpg My point being is he had some support and they lost the last 2 games at home by a combined total of 4pts. They were a really good defensive team and only one game in the series made it over 100pts. The rest were in the mid 70s & 80s Bottom line he played horribly
The bulls had a difficult time in 89 against the Cavs too and went 0-6 and then but we all know what happened to the Cavs. But I don’t know if the bulls would beat the rockets but we can’t act like we know based off the regular season.
Casual here with a genuine question 😭 why do they assume that if Jordan doesn't retire everything after that just remains the same? Hypothetical doesnt mean to just place a scenario in between what actually happened at that point the hypothetical is what if jordan had 2 extra rings not what if he didnt retire.
It’s a huge hypothetical so many different variables if Jordan never retired. For all we know Scottie would have demanded a trade because he wanted to be able to lead his own team. With Jordan retiring he was able to get a taste of that.
@@rawsportsradio I’m talking bout the season pippen sat out with a migraine. Even if Jordan and the bulls beat the pistons that year I think they still lose to the lakers in the finals
MIchael Jordan didnt have anything in the tank both times he quit. Yoi see what hapwene a to KD and Klay after their runs. Jordan probably tears an achilles or starts suffering soft tissue injuries
They don’t hold 4-6 against LeBron but I guarantee if LeBron was 6-4 or 10-0 they’d give him all the praise and GOAT status. Yeah I’m out, the LeBron bias is nasty work
This century, the Biggest What if is Lebron staying with the Cavs in 2010. The Decision had a complete domino effect on the league. Does Boston beat the Lebron Cavs in 2011 & 2012. Is Cleveland able to make a big trade or lure a free agent? Do the Bulls win a championship in 2011?
In 17’ the warriors roster was not that much better than the cavs. Plus bron is supposed to be the best player on the floor which closes the gap even more. Should’ve went more than 5 games but the bronsexuals will talk about how they didn’t stand a chance when in reality it should’ve been a much more competitive series. This is a hill I’m willing to die on
Bulls beat the Rockets in 94, 94 would have been the best supporting cast MJ ever had if he was there. 95 is a different story. Does Horace still leave?? Cuz he went to the team that stopped the Bulls from reaching the Finals. But in general I could see the Rockets prevailing in 95, 5 finals in a row is a big physical tax.
LeBron beat every team in the east by himself that's why I think he could beat the 2018 rockets they two best players was a choke artist and a guy that gets hurt at the most important times.
The glaze on Bron from Chill; Has Bron lost to worst teams? 2-4 years of Jordan crazy game & stats regardless if he wins surely clears Bron who's won less & done less in peak/ games to ratio etc.....
If MJ doesn't retire in '93....I think the Bulls DO win the first series against the Rockets....Yes Olajuwon was a PROBLEM....but two things : - It's a SERIES, not a game here and a game there....with all of the adjustments that go with it....the regular season has bearing - yes - but the postseason is a different animal. - It was the Rockets first Finals, and I think they would have had an adjustment period, and the Bulls were a battle hardened team...and EVERY team that makes it's first appearance says that it's way different from the rest of the playoffs. If the Bulls do THAT, then they're four in a row - something that only Russell's Celtics did - and that still puts them in rarified air.
94 Bulls-Rockets would most likely go like 93 Bulls-Suns. Inexperience would cost the Rockets early on like it did Phoenix. Houston would sneak a game & have some momentum then Jordan would drop a 45- 55 piece in game 4 or game 5. And it be over in 6.
Shoot there some crazy what ifs. What if Len bias didn’t pass, what if penny and grant hill don’t get injured.what if the lakers don’t put ballon’s in the rafters and piss Russell off, what if Chris Paul goes to lakers. To many to mention.
Marz just yapped about the whole Bron final narrative/perception. 16:02 “anyone with a brain knows Miami was the favoured team” so why don’t you use your brain and know that Bron & his team weren’t favourites in ‘07, 2016, 2017 and 2018? And u keep running this Xmas Day 16/17 game as evidence for the Cavs being favourites…NO ONE HAD THE CAVS WINNING bruh. I know u felt some type of way after that xmas day fixture since you’re a Steph d-rider but don’t do revisionism. Reality is, no one expected the Cavs to win those series. 2016 the gsw were 73-9 and defending champs, how tf was Cavs favourites? Because philly2009-applewarrior in Twitter said so in 2016?😂
What if these clowns stop making up fake narratives for views. What if LeBron never joined wade and bosh What if LeBron never joined a young kyrie and love he would still be ringless.
@@rackball5858 all you gotta do is watch the preview for the finals and all the media and fans were talking about was boston barely getting by teams with their stars injured lol
@@rackball5858you think about Lebron to much. That’s the only Mavs series the Mavs were picked by everyone to win when it was obvious the Celtics were the better team.
Quit?!?! How tf can you quit when you’re on top?!?! After a championship?!?! Wtf are y’all on?!?! And the Rockets went to 7 games with the Knicks whom the Bulls beat repeatedly so…... Where’s Ticket?!?! Lol
Bron isn’t a pass first player lol. That’s a complete myth made up by the media. He takes more shots per game than Kobe and Durant for his career. Stop it.
Its funny how when i losten to marz and he goes on these tangents its only about lebron fans. Hes been in this space long enough so im pretty sure hes interacted or has seen just as much delusional kobe, jordan, kd or curry fans. But he seems to let them slide and whenever a lebron fan says something he hones in on it 🤔. Hmmmm interesting.... mini ticket tv in the works.
That worse like Jordan body would have broken down faster he might have lost to the jazz like injury might happened when been spoiled with lebron going to the finals every single Time again and again he a freak of nature’s it usually don’t work that way day he win his 4 straight next year he not betting the rockets or the jazz going forward that too much wear and tear on your body you need rest not everybody bron.
Biggest what if is Len Bias imo.
Imagine if the 07-08 Celtics had the 2nd pick going into the season & drafted Kevin Durant. And he died a day later.
saying cavs win in 2018 cuz of hardens performances in 2012 finals is nasty work
Right. How does he get swept but the warriors but beats a team the warriors went to the wire with 😂😂
You’re completely right but somehow it’s always felt that way to me. Logically of course the rockets win they obviously do I know that. But internally it just feels like they’d find a way to lose. I can’t comprehend Harden and CP winning a title for some reason. I know they’re great but I’m so conditioned to seeing something go wrong somewhere and it doesn’t happen. My brain knows it’s dumb but inside I feel like SOMETHING would happen and they wouldn’t pull it off.
@@jakeharrison207 it’s because they had the worst luck possible , from missing 27 straight 3s to cp3 getting hurt. Bad officiating. The amount of bad luck needed for them to lose was sad to watch
You guys are weirdos. Calling mj a degenerate cause he left after his father got murdered. His father always wanted him to play baseball so as way to honour his father he took a shot at baseball. Then second time he left Jerry Krause took a sledgehammer to the team and MJ had no interest in rebuilding as they were reigning champions.
He calling a degenerate cause of his gambling problem
I think it’s because of the gambling conspiracy lol
He’s definitely a degenerate gambler this is documented 😂😂
No he wouldn’t That worse like Jordan body would have broken down faster he might have lost to the jazz like injury might happened when been spoiled with lebron going to the finals every single Time again and again he a freak of nature’s it usually don’t work that way day he win his 4 straight next year he not betting the rockets or the jazz going forward that too much wear and tear on your body you need rest not everybody bron like say in his 5 straight pippen breakdown and keep breaking down like they ain’t beating the rockets with a pippen breaking down he would and rockets become a toss up Jordan needed that rest and he knew that
Murder or no murder bro was a certified degenerate
What if Michael Jordan kept hair for his whole career 😮
The Bron media pundits all picked Bron to win in 17. Shannon Sharpe, Nick Wright, and Colin Cowherd all picked Bron to win because they had the “best player.” Then after the fact they said Bron needed more help.
Wow, 3 people on tv picked the cavs to win but everyone else knew the warriors were gonna clear. Quit being a dummy
@@battousaithekingslayer9913exactly like wtf ? 😭
Nigga he was never gon win in 2017 I called it before they started that series. People who expected him to win are Nut Guzzlers, they’re not realistic. It’s not about who knows more nobody expected the cavs to win in 2017 uh uh
@@battousaithekingslayer9913 Eveyone didn’t know that the Warriors was going to win 5 games like that. I remember Cavs fans saying shit like “Kyrie over Steph, Lebron over KD, and love over Klay”. If you look at their rosters the warriors wasn’t much more talented on paper than the Cavs. It’s just the warriors played better because of their style of offense
@@battousaithekingslayer9913 Cavs were favorites before game 1 because they won the 2016 chip, the announcer literally said it before the game started in game 1
great point marz, before coming into a series yall glaze lebron and say hes gonna beat a team he has no business beating , and once he loses we have to hear from his fans how it wasnt fair lmao
If Ray Allen misses that corner 3 in the 2013 Finals - Duncan is in GOAT conversations and that Heat team gets broken up
Marz and Ox needs to learn the difference between quitting and retiring. Jordan retired both times the first time his father got murdered in the off-season and he retired in the off-season he had a press conference and everything. The only way you can quit is if you quit during the season. 💯
its just funny to say he quit so ima keep doing it
@@MarzTalksSports It’s not funny. This is just y’all youngsters way of trying to discredit him.
So he quit lol, simple as that. If it was anyone else yall would say the same
@@puncho8799 okay let me rephrase,i thought it was implied but u know how the internet be. its funny TO ME so ima keep doing it
@@battousaithekingslayer9913 I see you don’t know the difference neither it’s very simple. You retire in the off-season you quit during the season.👌🏽
What if Ray Allen misses that 3 in the finals. Duncan is 6-0
Duncan loss twice
The Cavs without Kyrie beating the 2018 Rockets is a hilarious take
To Marz, I "keep that same energy" with all team leaders. If you are the leader, you are the main reason for ALL wins and losses, especially in big games. There can be extreme situations where your team falls apart, but as the leader your job is to get the most from your teammates.
According to marz he want the stars to have the accountability of role players which is insane that’s why those guys make the big bucks otherwise they would be role players as well🤷🏿♂️
LeBron fan schedule every season:
1. First two months when the team success starts slow: "OMG fire the coach" (even tho LeBron barely buy in any coach system and play his game regardless of coach.)
2. Month 3 his birthday month mention his longevity in every basketball debate whether LeBron is the topic or not
3. Month 4 LeBron team goes on a few winning streaks: "he is the Goat, he is top 5, (insert LeBron team) will go to the finals.
4. Month 5 and 6 (LeBron teams success slows down) "OMG LeBron needs help, Trade the team, fire the coach, "maybe we can trade such and such for an all-star by the deadline).
5. Month 7 LeBrons team usually do a final push for playoff seeding and win some games: "IT DONT MATTER WHERE WE LAND JUST GET LEBRON IN AND HE WILL GO PLAYOFF MODE"
Playoffs: No matter how bad the defense he plays, no matter if he choose to shoot chuck instead of using his size against a clearly smaller defender, no matter the flop baitimg and crying to the refs, no matter the ball stopping, as long as his box score say 25 plus points, a good number of rebounds, and a good number of assist scream "WHAT MORE CAN HE DO"
This is literally every lakers season since 2021
If Michael Jordan didn't retire twice he'd probably have 8 rings, would've won one in 1994 and probably 1999, im not sure about 1995 though
At least 2 4pts and Hakeem is honestly looked at even better if they win in 95 the one player to stop mj and the bulls from winning 9 straight rings
That 99 ring would have been the carry job of a lifetime 😂😂
@@DerQuanDoucettngl it would have fasho yet it’s Timmy n Duncan we talking about 🤣
@@Judahdabutcher9 second year tim ain’t beating the bulls Tim isn’t doing what he did in 99 vs the Knicks he averaged 27 if that’s the bulls with Rodman that’s most likely 25 and decent shooting splits it will probably go 7 and in the spurs wins the will look like the better team but in the but it will come down to late game crunch time and if someone is beating on Tim in 99 over mj in late game Situations ur on dope
@@Judahdabutcher9 that’s why I’m saying it would have been the best carry job ever. That bulls team was already falling apart at the seams with pippen and Rodman declining then on top of that yu playing 2 bigs who are arguably both top 5 at the positions. Like bob said he we wouldn’t have a goat convo
Wilt is the biggest what if
If only we had mobile phone cameras in the 60s
Marz be COOOKING!!
With straight Logic!
🔥🔥🔥🔥
The greatest thing Mike ever did for his legacy was retire. he would’ve won 6 regardless, but he probably would’ve had 2-3 more finals losses.
Marz was preaching about LeBron
No, he was preaching about any fanbase. Nobody with a brain thought that warriors team was losing to the cavs. Lol. He used one example, he tried to leave out the context of the rockets being injured basically and the rest of the roster being solid. Cavs had a chance of beating them, especially with harden being ass in big moments of the playoffs.
And they cut him off when he was cooking 😂
@@battousaithekingslayer9913No he spoke about Bron because only Bron fans do that goofy bs, whenever other players lose it’s always on them Lebron fans r the only ones who blame the team & excuse the best player.
& No the cavs had 0 chance in hell, they were the worst defense & matched up horribly against the Rockets. & ur talking as if Lebron hasn’t been ass in big playoff movements thru put his career…wipe ur mouth & get off ur knees lil bruh.
Honestly, it's not crazy to think the bulls wouldn't completely dominate the 90's if Jordan didn't retire, the bulls was just by far a better team then 98% of the teams back then.
What if MJ followed Phil Jackson to the LA LAKERS would he have won 3 more chips?
I think so
Easily
Ofc don’t think mj would have did that tho
I remember, Jimmy highroller did a video and he had the same scenario saying if Jordan joined the Lakers, because he was always saying courtside of the games but he pointed out around the same time Jordan had cut his finger badly with a cigar cutter so maybe that’s what stopped him
Biggest what-ifs of all
1. What if someone sitting in prison right now could have become the greatest basketball player of all time but we'll never know?
2. What if Jordan doesnt get drafted by the Bulls
3. What if Stern doesn't block CP3's move to the Lakers
4. What if Lebron didnt ring chase in his prime, how many rings would he have since he ONLY has 4 after ring chasing?
5. What if Lebron never went to Miami in 2010? Without the BIg 3 existing in Miami, would Kevin Durant and OKC have won a ring in 2012 which probably mean KD doesnt join GSW later in 2017?
6. What if Marz were born female instead, would his name then be Venus?
7. What if Tim Duncan went to Orlando?
8. What if Kareem never left Milwaukee? What happens to Magic Johnson and the Lakers in the 80s?
9. What if Steph Curry never recovered from his ankle injuries early in his career?
10. What if the NBA didnt exist? What would someone like Kevin Garnett be doing right now without basketball?
Biggest what if is What if Vince Carter took the game seriously. Vince was too talented to be ringless
What if the Rockets accepted the 1984 draft day trade offer from the Trail Blazers for Ralph Sampson. They offered the Rockets Drexler, plus the number 2 pick that they ended up using to select Bowie. This trade would have given the Rockets the opportunity to select Michael Jordan at number 2 right after Hakeem Olajuwon. How many rings do we think the Hakeem, Jordan and Drexler Rockets would have won? Honestly I think they could easily have won more than the Bill Russell Celtics.
@@ogbmt those fast breaks in the mid 80s early 90s would have broke basketball 😂😂
@@DerQuanDoucett It would have been so unfair. The Dream blocks a shot, outlets to Air Jordan and Clyde the Glide running the floor. Everyone would have been cooked.
Marz is here to bring order on player choice. When it comes to rational thinking, logic and common sense on breaking down the game he's the best at it and I'm a lebron fan.
His logic was in bron favor of course you see it as order
@@Slyme1big lol, so what are you implying here? That his logic didn't make sense?
@@Slyme1big it wasn’t in bron favor
@@Ghost-rb6cw it doesn’t he want superstars to be treated as role players when you a leader of a team or a group of people leader takes the blame leader takes the fall it’s all the responsibility that comes with that spot of leader or superstar or both . Bring accountability back
@@Slyme1big and there goes you're delusions.
Chill knows good and well Jordan‘s father getting murdered was one of the main reasons why he retired he wanted to play baseball to under his father no one in their right mind thinks he was gonna walk away if that didn’t happen when he had a chance to win 4 in a row but Chill is a Lebron guy 🤣
@@puncho8799 he was already thinking about retirement but his dad dying did push it over the edge
@@DerQuanDoucett The urge of him being able to 4peat was too strong. He was going to continue to play until his father got murdered.
@@puncho8799 nah he was just thinking about retirement after the 3rd ring. I bet money he stays if his dad isn’t killed
@@DerQuanDoucett True!! 💯
The “What If” of MJ not quitting is interesting for a lot of reason, like does he even get 6 rings if he keeps playing? What would the contract situation be during that time period too. The biggest thing about the gap is it would alter everything before during and after the second 3 peat and it wouldn’t be an inevitability
@@talaf6616 not just that gap but the gap between the last ring and the wizard years. He would be the all time leading scorer and bron might still be trying to catch it
Why are we acting like that 94 and 95 bulls team is the same team that won in 93. You had your 3rd best player leave and expect to beat the best version of the rockets ever SMFH
Horace left after the 94 season. The 94 team added Kukoc & Kerr. They’re similar if not better. If Jordan sticks around, does Horace leave in the 94 summer free agency?
@@rackball5858Horace is on record saying he didn't like playing with MJ, plus the Magic offered him a contract that the Bulls couldn't match. He was gone regardless.
@@XaviorJordanIt’s a hypothetical, regardless. Not saying he wouldn’t have left. But, the allure of winning a possible 5th straight championship in 95 would have postponed Horace leaving.
What if draymond don’t throw the 2016 finals since we talking what’s ifs
oladipo pushed bron to 7 games that 2018, celtics without kyrie and hayward pushed bron to 7 games, but hes gonna beat the rockets????? The same team that will beat the stacked warriors in this hypothetical ??? please stop
All those teams were better than brons teams lmaooo who was his second best player on that team jr smith ? Try again ❤❤
@@playoffp2024 we just finished talk about basketball being a team sport but Jordan fanboys can't help themselves as usual, they always have to feel the need to go out there way to make lebron look bad with they're fanboy takes.
Hey fanboy, you do realize olidipo pacers were a better team right?
@@Ghost-rb6cw bro wtf are yu talking about? He didn’t say the cavs was better, he saying bron and the Cavs where scrapping by teams who are in a whole tier below the rockets if not two tiers so expecting him to automatically beat the rockets is just stupid.
@@TOKYO9AIN that’s what he is saying. He barley beating those teams so why on earth would we think he go beat a rocket team who is clearly better than the teams he is barley beating in 7 game series
@@Ghost-rb6cw the gap between the oladipo pacers and the harden rockets is night and day … nice try
What if Doc doesn't fumble Tim Duncan going to Orlando with T-Mac?
Mars conflated Fandom and real life to make an obviously incoherent point.
Fandom is on twitter where your opinion is heard real life is you when u have no social media and out of the loop marz gave a excellent point real life opinions are not heard or on tv
If Jordan loses those 2 retirement years, he’d STILL BE BETTER THAN 4-6 Lebron
Marz just yappin bro like Ty for taking time to just say what we know already
Yea I never heard a player be favored and be the underdog more then Bron😮
2007 LBJ played horrible but had help. Look at his teammates stats and the games.
@@dmv_p the fact all 4 games was decided I think by a average of 6 points and he played that bad is crazy. If he just had his regular season averages they might win the series
@@DerQuanDoucett exactly … he was the weak link on that squad
@@dmv_p I wouldn’t go that far but he definitely pulled a 2011. Ppl just look past it bc he was young
No he didn’t 😂, he was having to solo squad a dynasty at 22yo. Duncan even said “we guarded him with 5 guys”. I think I saw an interview with Some of the player and Pop even laughed about how sorry that Cavs team was.
Not true … Lebron played horribly in 2007 and hist teammates didn’t.
Finals stats:
Lebron: 22ppg / 7r / 6.8a on 35.6 FG% / 20 3FG% / 69 FT% / 5.8 TOV / in 42.5 mpg
Drew Dooden: 12.8 ppg / 8.3r / 0.3a on 50 FG% / 0 3FG% / 87.5 FT% / in 27.5 mpg
Boobie Gibson: 10.8 ppg / 1.8r / 2.5a on 43 FG% / 32 3FG% / 100 FT% / in 34.8 mpg
My point being is he had some support and they lost the last 2 games at home by a combined total of 4pts. They were a really good defensive team and only one game in the series made it over 100pts. The rest were in the mid 70s & 80s
Bottom line he played horribly
You guys should do an agree and disagree game on ball takes or just basketball beliefs
The bulls had a difficult time in 89 against the Cavs too and went 0-6 and then but we all know what happened to the Cavs. But I don’t know if the bulls would beat the rockets but we can’t act like we know based off the regular season.
@@Getdown8319 we will never know
@@DerQuanDoucett exactly. What we do know isHakeem had an amazing run and was a great champion.
Casual here with a genuine question 😭 why do they assume that if Jordan doesn't retire everything after that just remains the same? Hypothetical doesnt mean to just place a scenario in between what actually happened at that point the hypothetical is what if jordan had 2 extra rings not what if he didnt retire.
It’s a huge hypothetical so many different variables if Jordan never retired. For all we know Scottie would have demanded a trade because he wanted to be able to lead his own team. With Jordan retiring he was able to get a taste of that.
Don't forget about the 86' season and the year Pippen quit over a migraine
@@rawsportsradio I think they lose in that finals tho
@@DerQuanDoucett he missed the season, but we count it against him
@@rawsportsradio I’m talking bout the season pippen sat out with a migraine. Even if Jordan and the bulls beat the pistons that year I think they still lose to the lakers in the finals
@@rawsportsradio yu mean 96* right?
No way that Rockets team beats the Cavs. I was actively pulling for the Rockets to beat GS so Bron could get another ring!
Biggest what if in NBA history is Bron vs kobe in the 2009 finals
We need Ticket back. Show's getting a bit boring.
Or Shaq, the reason I started watching these guys
@@Pswayze23Ticket and Shaq are the most brain dead people that have been on the panel lol
They like everyone being respectful and not getting challenged 🤷🏽♂️
You want ticket back so he can help y'all glaze Michael Jordan, yeah sure ok. 🙄🤦🏾
The guy who was showing his buns ?
MIchael Jordan didnt have anything in the tank both times he quit. Yoi see what hapwene a to KD and Klay after their runs. Jordan probably tears an achilles or starts suffering soft tissue injuries
What if Bill Russel gets injured bad early on and Wilt ends up with 6-7 rings with his ridiculous career numbers?
Nobody mentioned the games MJ lost with a broken foot either. Almost a session.
They don’t hold 4-6 against LeBron but I guarantee if LeBron was 6-4 or 10-0 they’d give him all the praise and GOAT status. Yeah I’m out, the LeBron bias is nasty work
This century, the Biggest What if is Lebron staying with the Cavs in 2010. The Decision had a complete domino effect on the league. Does Boston beat the Lebron Cavs in 2011 & 2012. Is Cleveland able to make a big trade or lure a free agent? Do the Bulls win a championship in 2011?
Mines is .. what if Melo is drafted by the pistons .. and he wins a ring his first and possible his 2nd year …his whole career changes
In 17’ the warriors roster was not that much better than the cavs. Plus bron is supposed to be the best player on the floor which closes the gap even more. Should’ve went more than 5 games but the bronsexuals will talk about how they didn’t stand a chance when in reality it should’ve been a much more competitive series. This is a hill I’m willing to die on
What if Steph was traded to the Bucks instead of Monte Ellis. Steph and Giannis duo
Yeah no way those Cavs beat those Rockets
Bulls win in 94. 95. I'm not sure. Horace was a big loss in 95
Bulls beat the Rockets in 94, 94 would have been the best supporting cast MJ ever had if he was there. 95 is a different story. Does Horace still leave?? Cuz he went to the team that stopped the Bulls from reaching the Finals. But in general I could see the Rockets prevailing in 95, 5 finals in a row is a big physical tax.
LeBron beat every team in the east by himself that's why I think he could beat the 2018 rockets they two best players was a choke artist and a guy that gets hurt at the most important times.
The glaze on Bron from Chill; Has Bron lost to worst teams?
2-4 years of Jordan crazy game & stats regardless if he wins surely clears Bron who's won less & done less in peak/ games to ratio etc.....
2018 cavs would destroy rockets 😂😂😂
If MJ doesn't retire in '93....I think the Bulls DO win the first series against the Rockets....Yes Olajuwon was a PROBLEM....but two things :
- It's a SERIES, not a game here and a game there....with all of the adjustments that go with it....the regular season has bearing - yes - but the postseason is a different animal.
- It was the Rockets first Finals, and I think they would have had an adjustment period, and the Bulls were a battle hardened team...and EVERY team that makes it's first appearance says that it's way different from the rest of the playoffs.
If the Bulls do THAT, then they're four in a row - something that only Russell's Celtics did - and that still puts them in rarified air.
94 Bulls-Rockets would most likely go like 93 Bulls-Suns. Inexperience would cost the Rockets early on like it did Phoenix. Houston would sneak a game & have some momentum then Jordan would drop a 45- 55 piece in game 4 or game 5. And it be over in 6.
@@rackball5858 there fantasizing what he think Jordan would have done against the 94 rockets lol 😆😆 if that ain't glaze then I don't know what is.
IFLeBron never loses the NBA finals
Shoot there some crazy what ifs. What if Len bias didn’t pass, what if penny and grant hill don’t get injured.what if the lakers don’t put ballon’s in the rafters and piss Russell off, what if Chris Paul goes to lakers. To many to mention.
Marz just yapped about the whole Bron final narrative/perception. 16:02 “anyone with a brain knows Miami was the favoured team” so why don’t you use your brain and know that Bron & his team weren’t favourites in ‘07, 2016, 2017 and 2018?
And u keep running this Xmas Day 16/17 game as evidence for the Cavs being favourites…NO ONE HAD THE CAVS WINNING bruh. I know u felt some type of way after that xmas day fixture since you’re a Steph d-rider but don’t do revisionism. Reality is, no one expected the Cavs to win those series. 2016 the gsw were 73-9 and defending champs, how tf was Cavs favourites? Because philly2009-applewarrior in Twitter said so in 2016?😂
what if stuff is to positive. Jordan could got injured real bad in 94. Plus Jordan retirement stuff refresh his NBA career.
What if these clowns stop making up fake narratives for views. What if LeBron never joined wade and bosh What if LeBron never joined a young kyrie and love he would still be ringless.
the mavs were favored by everyone except vegas and once they got smoked everyone acted like that was supposed to happen lmao
That’s bullshit.
@@rackball5858 all you gotta do is watch the preview for the finals and all the media and fans were talking about was boston barely getting by teams with their stars injured lol
@@playoffp2024my bad. Thought you were talking about Mavs-Heat 2011😂
@@rackball5858 oh yea I should’ve mentioned that 🤦♂️mb
@@rackball5858you think about Lebron to much. That’s the only Mavs series the Mavs were picked by everyone to win when it was obvious the Celtics were the better team.
Quit?!?! How tf can you quit when you’re on top?!?! After a championship?!?!
Wtf are y’all on?!?!
And the Rockets went to 7 games with the Knicks whom the Bulls beat repeatedly so…...
Where’s Ticket?!?! Lol
Biggest what if is easy...what if the nba wasnt scripted...
Losing to the Rockets? 😂 what is this? This is Michael Jeffery Jordan we talking about not no damn Lebron
Bulls had a losing record chief and were 0-2 in 92/93. Your guy would’ve lost bruh
What if lebron wasn’t a pass first guy would he have won all of his finals ?
No
If Ralph Sampson never gets hurt and the late 80s rockets don’t do cocaine they are a dynasty that not even Mike can stop
@@ubereats3047 that’s a fact
Don’t do cocaine is crazy
Bron isn’t a pass first player lol. That’s a complete myth made up by the media. He takes more shots per game than Kobe and Durant for his career. Stop it.
What if Lebron could shoot?
Its funny how when i losten to marz and he goes on these tangents its only about lebron fans. Hes been in this space long enough so im pretty sure hes interacted or has seen just as much delusional kobe, jordan, kd or curry fans. But he seems to let them slide and whenever a lebron fan says something he hones in on it 🤔. Hmmmm interesting.... mini ticket tv in the works.
Better what iit. Jorden remain in bulls won 7 championship let's same 8. Ok. Now add another hall of famer to labron for his career. Then talk.
MJ DA GOD …!!!…
That worse like Jordan body would have broken down faster he might have lost to the jazz like injury might happened when been spoiled with lebron going to the finals every single Time again and again he a freak of nature’s it usually don’t work that way day he win his 4 straight next year he not betting the rockets or the jazz going forward that too much wear and tear on your body you need rest not everybody bron.
James Harden has played poorly in the last game of damn near every season that I can remember. Stats be dammed