“Lonesome Road ignored what made New Vegas great… it’s stellar writing.” So you didn’t play Lonesome Road? It was an amazing conclusion to the DLCs and the Courier vs Ulysses arc. It tied up loose ends perfectly.
Lonesome Road is the conclusion of the overall arc of the DLC. The previous three sets you up for that final confrontation with Ulysses and it makes it clear that this DLC is a final exam where you take your Courier through a gauntlet to meet your twisted mirror image in Ulysses. I usually don't disagree with your choices but I think putting Lonesome Road at number 2 is wrong.
tbf, what he has to say in regards to the story is mostly praise. it’s the gameplay he’s not the biggest fan of which i totally understand as a Lonesome Road enjoyer
Most of the entries were blatant cash grabs. Lonesome Road has a lot of combat, and NV wasn't the best FPS experience, but it really doesn't seem to fit this list well.
Sims 4, Midnight Suns, Dragon Age, Fallout... I'm impressed! This video should go on the '10 videos where WhatCulture completely missed the mark' list.
Did they even play lonesome road amazing story that tied up all the dlc with you facing Ulysses to decide the fate of new Vegas and helps to write the story for the sequel with the tunnlers along with upgrading ed-e to being a amazing ally. Fry's dog alone put this dlc into my hall of dlc fame.
Wow. Three hard Ls in a row. Warden's Keep was a fun dlc that offered an interesting side story and lore, a great armor set, Starfang, new skills for each class, and a storage system that also could be used to upgrade gear. It you wanted to bash a DLC from Dragon Age Origins, then you have picked the gifts DLC. Pinnacle Station may not have been the best dlc ever, but it was a fun distraction that was also helpful for grinding out all the ability achievements. Finally, Lonesome Road was the final piece of the Courier's story in NV. Every bit of it was amazing. Learning more about ED-E, trying to unravel what Ulysses wanted, and discovering a part of the Courier's past that they can no longer remember after being shot in the head. It was an amazing dlc, and I wish more games had content half as good as Lonesome Road.
I'll be honest, I love this game. Until you said that about losing your memory due to being shot I really never thought about it lol. Truly thank you 🙏
The problem with Warden's Keep wasn't the dlc itself but that the game tossed it at you only to direct you from the game to the e-store to pay for its access when you went for it. At least that's how I understood it all.
I think the objection to the Warden's Keep DLC in particular wasn't so much the content itself, it was the sheer shamelessness involved. If the DLC had added that character to your camp to start the quest and take you to the mission, that would've been okay. Having him already there in the base game with his sole purpose being to actively push you to buy it in the first place wasn't.
I thought lonesome road was better than dead money, the annoyingly punishing enemies with high health and your inventory reset made dead money so unenjoyable. Lonesome road has a nice story tie as well
Agreed. I'm in the camp of Dead Money haters because I hate how much it limits you. It feels like if you're not already running a stealth character, you're absolutely fucked.
For me, Old World Blues was the more annoying of all those DLCs. NPCs that didn't know how to shut up, quests that dragged out past reasonable length and had lots of repetition and just a downright unsatisfactory conclusion.
I've loved Lonesome Road the first I played. Old World Blues is my favorite, but Ulysses is one of my favorite characters. He was originally going to be the Legion companion but he literally had too much dialogue, could the fit it in the disc, had to cut him. That's why the Legion has no companion in New Vegas.
Ewan: Morbius is a founding member of the Midnight Sons along with Blade and Ghost Rider. As a comics expert, it was expected that you would know that.
@@algarcia689 True. You would think that, given his knowledge base, he’d look through it for possible corrections and amendments before reading it out though. Make sure it’s accurate and all.
Lonesome road was absolutely amazing and the story it added, which was built up in all the dlcs was unbelievably on point. Sorry but that one just shouldn't be on the list
Hey now, Warden's Keep was a really good addition that filled out the lore of Ferelden and Thedas in general (as well as some good equipment and a new ability). Having Levi in camp was a good way of short-cutting to the checkout rather than searching for it.
Normally I'm for these lists, but listing a bunch of dlc you have qualms with is not the same as the dlc missing the point of the main game. Putting ME and NV on this list was tragic.
I’m sorry, but Lonesome Road is an amazing DLC. The narrative weight of the storyline itself is so intense it actually intimidated me the first time I played it
I totally get why & how dubious people instantly raise their eyebrows at Morbius’ inclusion into ANYTHING Marvel related right now but out of all the mediums used to adapt Marvel Comics and characters the Midnight Suns video game is exactly where it makes sense to include Morbius. Hes one of the original “founding” members of the team from the comics. Granted it was Midnight SONS back then and was really just a way for Marvel to designate a very loose collection of supernatural/occult characters that couldn’t maintain books on their own.
Your take on Lonesome Road sounds like an "I suck at the game" complaint. I understand that the combat in Fallout isn't great, but it's not that hard to adjust to the buggy shooting aspects. If you can't get past that simple problem, then you shouldn't be playing a DLC that has "for experienced couriers" at the start of it.
The thing about Battlefield though is if you are not there Day 1 unlocking weapons you may have a tough climb by the time you jump on. The starter weapons versus the later unlocks are too off balance... you lose a lot of players because they get on with the basic stuff and get wrecked and have to keep getting wrecked in a slower than normal grind to unlock decent equipment to compete with the current average player base (and don't even think about getting airborne because they will take you down before you even take off). The balance between starting weapons and unlocks has always been a major flaw in BF though.
You dont get the point of Get to work for Sims4. Everyone wanted it. Everyone wanted to take interactions at work. They still have dull jobs that just teleports your sim away and then returns with more cash. But interactions of taking pictures of crimescene to discover who put explosive candles on cake to humiliate the one blowing it, was just immense fun. Or working as doctor on disease that turned everyone in clown to stop Clownpocalypse, pure gold...
Criticizes Lonesome Road for being combat heavy and thus a slog with a token mention of the dialogue choices at the end, doesn't even think about the Gun Runner's DLC which was just to add new weapons to the game, which in the stated reason why Lonesome Road is on the list is cause of bad combat, would actually make Gun Runner's Assault be the "Missed the point" dlc.
I'd say the worst DLC from Marvel's Avengers was the $70 Movie Costume bundle put out 1 WEEK before they announced the remaining players would get all the DLC costumes for FREE in a few months.
I actually didn't have much of a problem with the first Mass Effect combat system. Sure it was overly simplified when compared with other shooter games, it was passable once you got used to its unique system and actually upgraded your gear.
Gotta disagree with the Lonesome Road listing. The whole game even before the first DLC was released was building up to this mystery duel with a courier who has it out for you and you have no idea why. Every DLC alludes to this being a duel. Tuning out all the noise of the city and settling a past wrong you never knew about. I think you might have missed the point of Lonesome Road. For context I was confused when I first played it eleven years ago and they gave me ED-E as a companion when the entirety of the plot was building up to me having no help. So the lack of writing is intentional. It doesn’t lack great writing, it still has that. It lacks characters to talk to because you’re meant to be alone.
I mean instead of Lonesome road from FNV I would have placed the DLCs from Assassins Creed 2. They were ok gameplay wise but the fact that they are clearly just part of the game that was removed to become DLC is the part that bothers me. The game even skips the sequence numbers where they fit into the story and it’s such an obvious cash grab while not really adding much to the story itself.
Having to buy Warden's Keep and Pinnacle Station not being great doesn't mean that they missed the point of the main game. Is it ironic that there are entries in this video that missed the point of the video?
your pick is HORRIBLY wrong The DLC ties in the story of one the main protagonists/antagonists (however one choses to view him) of the game. It is filled to brim with clever revelations about main character - the courier - and his past, through continuous narration in form of smart messages from said main protagonist/antagonist. Furthermore, the ending and choice therein impacts main game companion, world and story in a very meaningful way. Obsidian succeeded in telling a compelling story through world building alone. Whoever made this segment of the video clearly barely touched the DLC or New Vegas in general. If one was to point out worst DLC in Fallout franchise, where focus was on the FPS part of it - it is clearly Operation Anchorage from Fallout 3. Now THAT DLC did miss its mark and misunderstood true strengths of the main game.
Think all the DLC's for New Vegas were well made, some are better than others however. Personally, by order of best to worst, has got to be: Old World Blues, Honest Hearts (although its a very close almost tie between OWB and HH there), Lonesome Road, Dead Money. This list does not mean the last 2 were the most terrible, none of them are horrible IMHO, but the latter 2 are the most flawed. I think comparatively, Dead Money's was so egregious because it virtually boxed the player into a situation where their build or approach are stifled and you are forced to reckon with the situation instead of providing you with options. Essentially, they tried to do a survival horror in a Fallout game and I think most did not take to it as well. Regardless though, it still has good writing and some good fallout elements in there. I think what edged it for me to give Lonesome Road the 3rd place is the build you walked in with was more usable in that DLC than Dead Money.
The only thing Sonic Frontiers: The Final Horizon messed up (if you can even say that) was Knuckles startup glide animation which caused a delay in his glide, the tower climbing sections where the breakable objects didn’t respawn, and the perfect parry window being too small for it to be pulled off. All of which were addressed in the most recent update. And you can’t say the dlc “misses the point of the game” because fans have for the most part agreed that the ending felt anticlimactic and that the original final boss was very underwhelming. But with the dlc it gave us a new climax which also addressed certain plot points in the game that wasn’t addressed in the base game, provided a newer and more fitting final boss that was more climatic. In all honesty, this dlc showed that over the years people have gotten so used to 3d sonic games being very easy that in my opinion they cannot handle actual difficulty being implemented into. And if it’s too hard you can play it on easy mode, which really holds your hand if I’m being completely honest.
Prince of Persia: 2008's epilogue DLC deserves to be on here instead of Sonic Frontier's DLC as the epilogue DLC for Prince of Persia: 2008 was advertised as bringing the story of the attempted reboot to an end but nope as like with the main game the epilogue DLC ends on another cliffhanger. Because after defeating Eilka's corrupted father again, the game ends with what looks like to be the true final boss fight against Ahrimin but nope another fade to black.
I remember playing that game after playing the sands of time trilogy and not enjoying a bunch of it the exploration felt lack luster the combat almost not even there for 90 percent of the game. The "prince" felt really unlikable same with Erika and the fact they do the name call back to phara only for her to be a donkey was distasteful. I could have gotten over the exploration feeling bad if the Combat was good or vise versa but after the sands of time trilogy it just really missed the mark imo
Midnight suns dlc wasn't that bad plus Asura's wrath isn't even there even though they did not have one but MULTILPLE dlcs just to see the ACTUAL ENDING
whatculture got this wrong with MASSIVE L's.Instead of including the lonesome road DLC,i would replace that with the skate 2 time is money DLC.Which I have no idea why that didn't make the list at all.For $7 you unlock everything without playing the game both EA and black box completely missed the point of skate 2 and skateboarding in general.
What I learned from this video is what the future holds. What is disliked or hated now will become normal (& expected) in a generation. If you are old enough, you know what I'm getting at.
Perhaps the people who paid for the BF4 gun pack value their time more than $50. They don’t want to waste all those hours unlocking the weapons, they just want to play and have fun. Also, why would you say people paying for the DLC are “losing at life”? The fact that they have more disposable income for luxury items says the opposite.
It is a very good game, I'm glad it's part of Humble Choice this month. Sadly the AAA general market wasn't ready for an XCOM like game. devs/publisher didn't help themselves with how pricy it was on release, among other things... Similar thing with Baldur's Gate 3. I know it's not technically AAA) Not everyone was willing to give turn-based combat a go, while it sold well enough and obviously very highly rated by those who bought it. Compare it to Starfield, a perfectly fine game, though not even close to BG3's level. It had combat people were familiar with and was more accessible because of that. I know people were always going to be hyped and buy, it was Bethesda. But it's rated much more poorly but outclassing BG3 in sales.
Top 3 DLC's for New Vegas in my opinion were: 1: Old World Blues 2: Dead Money 3: Lonesome Road I wasn't a huge fan of Honest Hearts (outside of the 1911 and Thompson) BUT, I loved the other DLC's. Honestly, Dead Money and Lonesome Road are pretty much tied on my ranking. I loved the difficulty of both and challenging them with different builds is a favorite past-time of mine.
The irony of the description of the video also being a good way to define the video itself is not lost on me. But just like others I feel you choosing Lonesome Road was just an error. If anything you could have used the Fallout 76's "premium" subscription or even the Fallout 4 DLCs that just added new stuff to build for your settlements without any content attached to them.
Call of Duty is now genuinely a pay to win game as well. Bought what I thought was a skin pack, and it also unlocked dual weild and explosive rockets as pistol ammo, which gave me the upper hand in basically every fight. Its pretty much pay to cheat lol
Some of the weapons on BF4 you had to unlock on campaign, yet campaign often bugged out and/OR reset your saved data making the PS90 hard to get, I remember bc I was looking to get one irl but 1.7k nope
Lonesome Road understood the nature of Fallout: New Vegas. It was meant to play as a part of the game's true conclusion, the great conflict between two legendary figures in the Mojave wasteland, to decide its fate. Courier 6 was built up big time across the main story and throughout the DLCs. And I never hear anyone complain about it.. It's that good. I would suggest instead of this, you COULD say that Mothership Zeta from Fallout 3 is a more worthy candidate for this list. I love Fallout 3, but even I will admit that this DLC misses the mark pretty badly. I can see where they're coming from. They WANTED to make something campy, and draw influences from 1950s sci-fi. But where Old World Blues from New Vegas got this right with clever writing and interesting characters, Mothership Zeta unintentionally made these aliens utterly incompetent. The entire escape hinges on a staged fistfight in a holding cell, and then the alien guards just open the door and let themselves be murdered by the two prisoners (or one if you're like me and punched my cellmate until she stopped complaining how much my punches hurt). Yes, I have killed Somah a few times, mostly because I wanted to be the sassiest thing on THIS side of Saturn. That's what she gets for being a former slaver (look it up). But overall, as far as Fallout DLCs go, this one is definitely near the bottom for me. No connection to the main plot and unlike Lonesome Road, there is no payoff for the gauntlet they force you into. No moral ambiguity which they want players to explore like when they travel the wasteland. There is not conflict except 'Aliens bad, shoot aliens'. This does not feel like Fallout to me.
Whatculture once again being beyond wrong. The Midnight Suns additional content was great and the characters were both interesting and interacted an commented on everything and never felt pasted in like many characters do. And somehow, he's fricking upset that Morbius, a FOUNDING MEMBER of the Midnight Suns, is in Midnight Suns? Really? EDIT: Lonesome road? Really, jesus what a fucking joke this channel has become.
you had me until you put Lonesome Road in the mix... seriously guys? if anything the DLC that SHOULD have been in it's place is Honest Hearts! not an entirely BAD DLC when it comes to Joshua Graham and The Survivalist lore, but the zone is a CLUSTERFUCK of peaks and valleys, making completing the map a real pain in the ass. pair that with the lack of story, narrative decisions and abuse of Poison, HH is the one that stands out from the other DLC in a BAD way.
As long as we're talking about locking the true ending behind a paywall; I was more ticked off at Kingdom Hearts 3 for doing that. $30 extra to unlock the true ending? That my friend is the biggest of BS!
Yup especially becuse the ending we got on day 2 didn't make alot of sense anyway becuse the whole last 2 hour area bods fight was kinda meh I honestly felt let down after how long I waited for kh3 didn't buy the dlc and haven't played it again since my first run through
If there’s any FNV DLC that should be on this list, it’s _Honest Hearts_ , not _Lonesome Road_ talk about (the former, not the latter) a snoozefest. Also, are we *REALLY* just gonna sit around and pretend like the _Coiled Captors_ “PLC” for _Tiny Tina’s Wonderlands_ wasn’t a cash grab, waste of 5-10 minutes that nobody who actually played the damn thing, let alone bought it, and a slap in the face to players by Gearbox and 2K?!
So a pack for a life simulator which simulates an incredibly relatable part of life (i.e. working)...missed the point of the game? Think it's once again y'all that have missed the point here - the Sims 4 has many issues, don't get me wrong, but the get to work pack isn't one of them
I've been trying to beat sonic: frontiers for my freaking son! The base game is hard! The collectables are horrible! Great game! Really hard! Why am I yelling? Play sonic frontiers %100 completion
I am definitely not the Jigsaw Killer. Your face looks even scarier as Jigsaw. MORBIUS?! WAIT WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?! GET OUT OF HERE! I guess Blade would want kill him. Morbius looks weird without a beard.
I felt Dead Money was the worst of the New Vegas DLCs, I'm probably not gonna play it again on my next playthrough. Lonesome road may be linear, but it at least isn't Dead Money, and that's good enough for me.
Why is so hard to put timestamps on the videos? The content are nice but hate not having time stamps and waste my time watching something i already know
The problem with Midnight Suns is that the devsloper/publisher used the wrong IP to sell its gameplay. Baldurs Gate 3 likewise would have failed if it were Marvel based instead of D&D. Thats unfortunate but you need to find the right mix of creativity and giving consumers what they want. Superheroes will sell best in action games while it will be harder to sell them on anything else. Id like to see a new IP in the style of Midnight Suns. That would do just fine.
Fallout nv shouldnt be here lonesome road has such a great fallout story to it and it ties together the couriers past to the start of the game its ment to be a burtal slog of combat that you have to fight through
Yeah, yall definitely whiffed on this video. Way too many decent and cheap dlc's on this list when the likes of fallout 4 dlc (besides far harbor) and oblivion horse armor exist. This scripty, low researched content is below you guys.
I'm sorry. I cannot watch anymore. I don't wanna speak ill about anyone at what culture, but the script for this was horrible and the reader voice is unappealing. I'll catch you next time!
It's really just a couple people that made the company watchable. Ash for the Horror, Simon Miller for Wrestling, and Jules for Gaming. They got rid of Ash, Jules is only a contract worker now, so the channel is mostly meh.
“Lonesome Road ignored what made New Vegas great… it’s stellar writing.” So you didn’t play Lonesome Road? It was an amazing conclusion to the DLCs and the Courier vs Ulysses arc. It tied up loose ends perfectly.
Lonesome Road is the conclusion of the overall arc of the DLC. The previous three sets you up for that final confrontation with Ulysses and it makes it clear that this DLC is a final exam where you take your Courier through a gauntlet to meet your twisted mirror image in Ulysses.
I usually don't disagree with your choices but I think putting Lonesome Road at number 2 is wrong.
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tbf, what he has to say in regards to the story is mostly praise. it’s the gameplay he’s not the biggest fan of which i totally understand as a Lonesome Road enjoyer
Came down here to say this. BAFFLING choice for what is the greatest piece of Fallout DLC literally ever.
@@thakatspajamazNah I think 3 letting you live again is the best. Ulysses was also too pretentious.
Most of the entries were blatant cash grabs. Lonesome Road has a lot of combat, and NV wasn't the best FPS experience, but it really doesn't seem to fit this list well.
Sims 4, Midnight Suns, Dragon Age, Fallout... I'm impressed!
This video should go on the '10 videos where WhatCulture completely missed the mark' list.
Let's be honest 10 isn't enough even 100 wouldn't be enough
Did they even play lonesome road amazing story that tied up all the dlc with you facing Ulysses to decide the fate of new Vegas and helps to write the story for the sequel with the tunnlers along with upgrading ed-e to being a amazing ally. Fry's dog alone put this dlc into my hall of dlc fame.
I did & I agree with them
I just mentioned frys dog in another thread ... till this day when ever that episode comes on, I avoid watching it lol.....
@@ooferrell "What do we want?"
"Fry's dog!"
"When do we want it-?"
"Fry's dog!"
Wow. Three hard Ls in a row. Warden's Keep was a fun dlc that offered an interesting side story and lore, a great armor set, Starfang, new skills for each class, and a storage system that also could be used to upgrade gear. It you wanted to bash a DLC from Dragon Age Origins, then you have picked the gifts DLC.
Pinnacle Station may not have been the best dlc ever, but it was a fun distraction that was also helpful for grinding out all the ability achievements.
Finally, Lonesome Road was the final piece of the Courier's story in NV. Every bit of it was amazing. Learning more about ED-E, trying to unravel what Ulysses wanted, and discovering a part of the Courier's past that they can no longer remember after being shot in the head. It was an amazing dlc, and I wish more games had content half as good as Lonesome Road.
I'll be honest, I love this game.
Until you said that about losing your memory due to being shot I really never thought about it lol. Truly thank you 🙏
The problem with Warden's Keep wasn't the dlc itself but that the game tossed it at you only to direct you from the game to the e-store to pay for its access when you went for it. At least that's how I understood it all.
Lonesome Road was full of itself, the bloke who wrote that must have loved the smell of his own farts.
Sims work dlc was requested by the fan base and well received too, its the batu dlc that noone wanted
I think the objection to the Warden's Keep DLC in particular wasn't so much the content itself, it was the sheer shamelessness involved. If the DLC had added that character to your camp to start the quest and take you to the mission, that would've been okay. Having him already there in the base game with his sole purpose being to actively push you to buy it in the first place wasn't.
I thought lonesome road was better than dead money, the annoyingly punishing enemies with high health and your inventory reset made dead money so unenjoyable. Lonesome road has a nice story tie as well
Agreed
i did not like either of those gameplay wise but i love honest hearts and old world blue so funny but its has af too until you get the gadgets working
Agreed. I'm in the camp of Dead Money haters because I hate how much it limits you. It feels like if you're not already running a stealth character, you're absolutely fucked.
@@bearded_snorlax especially if you haven't put any points into melee
For me, Old World Blues was the more annoying of all those DLCs. NPCs that didn't know how to shut up, quests that dragged out past reasonable length and had lots of repetition and just a downright unsatisfactory conclusion.
If you think Lonesome Road missed the point of the game then I’m pretty sure you’re the one who missed the point.
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If anything it was Dead Money, as soon as i started it and they mentioned the explosive collar, i immediately deleted it 😭
My pick is Old World Blues...way too talky, repetitive and drawn out.
@@SenseiSpikeSpiegelNah the real move is to play Dead Money and then exploit the engine to behead Elijah and use him to escape with all the gold.
I've loved Lonesome Road the first I played. Old World Blues is my favorite, but Ulysses is one of my favorite characters. He was originally going to be the Legion companion but he literally had too much dialogue, could the fit it in the disc, had to cut him. That's why the Legion has no companion in New Vegas.
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I don't know why these guys don't add timestamps... lazy. I put discount gameranx in the comments religiously
Thanks. Saved me watching the video
You're not a life saver. You have just ruined the video for me. What made you think I needed time stamps
Ewan: Morbius is a founding member of the Midnight Sons along with Blade and Ghost Rider. As a comics expert, it was expected that you would know that.
He didn’t write the list, he’s just the presenter according to the credits.
@@algarcia689 True. You would think that, given his knowledge base, he’d look through it for possible corrections and amendments before reading it out though. Make sure it’s accurate and all.
Lonesome road was absolutely amazing and the story it added, which was built up in all the dlcs was unbelievably on point. Sorry but that one just shouldn't be on the list
Hey now, Warden's Keep was a really good addition that filled out the lore of Ferelden and Thedas in general (as well as some good equipment and a new ability). Having Levi in camp was a good way of short-cutting to the checkout rather than searching for it.
Normally I'm for these lists, but listing a bunch of dlc you have qualms with is not the same as the dlc missing the point of the main game. Putting ME and NV on this list was tragic.
couldn't have said it better myself. it just feels like a lot of cope here.
Complaining about Morbius being added to Midnight Suns when he's one of the ORIGINAL members just means the script writer only knows Marvel movies.
I’m sorry, but Lonesome Road is an amazing DLC. The narrative weight of the storyline itself is so intense it actually intimidated me the first time I played it
I totally get why & how dubious people instantly raise their eyebrows at Morbius’ inclusion into ANYTHING Marvel related right now but out of all the mediums used to adapt Marvel Comics and characters the Midnight Suns video game is exactly where it makes sense to include Morbius. Hes one of the original “founding” members of the team from the comics. Granted it was Midnight SONS back then and was really just a way for Marvel to designate a very loose collection of supernatural/occult characters that couldn’t maintain books on their own.
I love that everyone in comments really love Lonesome Road. I love Democracy
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Your take on Lonesome Road sounds like an "I suck at the game" complaint. I understand that the combat in Fallout isn't great, but it's not that hard to adjust to the buggy shooting aspects. If you can't get past that simple problem, then you shouldn't be playing a DLC that has "for experienced couriers" at the start of it.
Lonesome Road? No, sir. No.
Speaking bad on Lonesome Road? Nah
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The thing about Battlefield though is if you are not there Day 1 unlocking weapons you may have a tough climb by the time you jump on. The starter weapons versus the later unlocks are too off balance... you lose a lot of players because they get on with the basic stuff and get wrecked and have to keep getting wrecked in a slower than normal grind to unlock decent equipment to compete with the current average player base (and don't even think about getting airborne because they will take you down before you even take off).
The balance between starting weapons and unlocks has always been a major flaw in BF though.
You dont get the point of Get to work for Sims4. Everyone wanted it. Everyone wanted to take interactions at work. They still have dull jobs that just teleports your sim away and then returns with more cash. But interactions of taking pictures of crimescene to discover who put explosive candles on cake to humiliate the one blowing it, was just immense fun. Or working as doctor on disease that turned everyone in clown to stop Clownpocalypse, pure gold...
"What are the Avengers doing in a Midnight Suns game?"
Also: "What is Morbius doing in a Midnight Suns game?"
Urgh...
Criticizes Lonesome Road for being combat heavy and thus a slog with a token mention of the dialogue choices at the end, doesn't even think about the Gun Runner's DLC which was just to add new weapons to the game, which in the stated reason why Lonesome Road is on the list is cause of bad combat, would actually make Gun Runner's Assault be the "Missed the point" dlc.
I'd say the worst DLC from Marvel's Avengers was the $70 Movie Costume bundle put out 1 WEEK before they announced the remaining players would get all the DLC costumes for FREE in a few months.
I actually didn't have much of a problem with the first Mass Effect combat system. Sure it was overly simplified when compared with other shooter games, it was passable once you got used to its unique system and actually upgraded your gear.
Same and the fact that wepon mods weren't permanently bound to gear and could just be swapped was refreshing for an rpg
Gotta disagree with the Lonesome Road listing. The whole game even before the first DLC was released was building up to this mystery duel with a courier who has it out for you and you have no idea why. Every DLC alludes to this being a duel. Tuning out all the noise of the city and settling a past wrong you never knew about.
I think you might have missed the point of Lonesome Road. For context I was confused when I first played it eleven years ago and they gave me ED-E as a companion when the entirety of the plot was building up to me having no help. So the lack of writing is intentional. It doesn’t lack great writing, it still has that. It lacks characters to talk to because you’re meant to be alone.
I mean instead of Lonesome road from FNV I would have placed the DLCs from Assassins Creed 2. They were ok gameplay wise but the fact that they are clearly just part of the game that was removed to become DLC is the part that bothers me. The game even skips the sequence numbers where they fit into the story and it’s such an obvious cash grab while not really adding much to the story itself.
Having to buy Warden's Keep and Pinnacle Station not being great doesn't mean that they missed the point of the main game.
Is it ironic that there are entries in this video that missed the point of the video?
your pick is HORRIBLY wrong
The DLC ties in the story of one the main protagonists/antagonists (however one choses to view him) of the game. It is filled to brim with clever revelations about main character - the courier - and his past, through continuous narration in form of smart messages from said main protagonist/antagonist. Furthermore, the ending and choice therein impacts main game companion, world and story in a very meaningful way. Obsidian succeeded in telling a compelling story through world building alone. Whoever made this segment of the video clearly barely touched the DLC or New Vegas in general.
If one was to point out worst DLC in Fallout franchise, where focus was on the FPS part of it - it is clearly Operation Anchorage from Fallout 3. Now THAT DLC did miss its mark and misunderstood true strengths of the main game.
Think all the DLC's for New Vegas were well made, some are better than others however. Personally, by order of best to worst, has got to be: Old World Blues, Honest Hearts (although its a very close almost tie between OWB and HH there), Lonesome Road, Dead Money. This list does not mean the last 2 were the most terrible, none of them are horrible IMHO, but the latter 2 are the most flawed. I think comparatively, Dead Money's was so egregious because it virtually boxed the player into a situation where their build or approach are stifled and you are forced to reckon with the situation instead of providing you with options. Essentially, they tried to do a survival horror in a Fallout game and I think most did not take to it as well. Regardless though, it still has good writing and some good fallout elements in there. I think what edged it for me to give Lonesome Road the 3rd place is the build you walked in with was more usable in that DLC than Dead Money.
For sure, dead money hit me in the feels the most, the gold helps tho
Disagree, I liked the Wardens Keep DLC. And Lonesome Road just straight up doesn't belong on this list. It was one of the best DLC for the game.
I wouldn't say BF4 had "best" weapons. It's more your preference. Still fun unlocking them though so it does take a lot of the fun out.
The only thing Sonic Frontiers: The Final Horizon messed up (if you can even say that) was Knuckles startup glide animation which caused a delay in his glide, the tower climbing sections where the breakable objects didn’t respawn, and the perfect parry window being too small for it to be pulled off. All of which were addressed in the most recent update. And you can’t say the dlc “misses the point of the game” because fans have for the most part agreed that the ending felt anticlimactic and that the original final boss was very underwhelming. But with the dlc it gave us a new climax which also addressed certain plot points in the game that wasn’t addressed in the base game, provided a newer and more fitting final boss that was more climatic. In all honesty, this dlc showed that over the years people have gotten so used to 3d sonic games being very easy that in my opinion they cannot handle actual difficulty being implemented into. And if it’s too hard you can play it on easy mode, which really holds your hand if I’m being completely honest.
Prince of Persia: 2008's epilogue DLC deserves to be on here instead of Sonic Frontier's DLC as the epilogue DLC for Prince of Persia: 2008 was advertised as bringing the story of the attempted reboot to an end but nope as like with the main game the epilogue DLC ends on another cliffhanger.
Because after defeating Eilka's corrupted father again, the game ends with what looks like to be the true final boss fight against Ahrimin but nope another fade to black.
I remember playing that game after playing the sands of time trilogy and not enjoying a bunch of it the exploration felt lack luster the combat almost not even there for 90 percent of the game. The "prince" felt really unlikable same with Erika and the fact they do the name call back to phara only for her to be a donkey was distasteful. I could have gotten over the exploration feeling bad if the Combat was good or vise versa but after the sands of time trilogy it just really missed the mark imo
Midnight suns dlc wasn't that bad plus Asura's wrath isn't even there even though they did not have one but MULTILPLE dlcs just to see the ACTUAL ENDING
The fact that UA-cam decided to interrupt my watching of this video with a Verizon ad is peak irony.
whatculture got this wrong with MASSIVE L's.Instead of including the lonesome road DLC,i would replace that with the skate 2 time is money DLC.Which I have no idea why that didn't make the list at all.For $7 you unlock everything without playing the game both EA and black box completely missed the point of skate 2 and skateboarding in general.
What I learned from this video is what the future holds. What is disliked or hated now will become normal (& expected) in a generation. If you are old enough, you know what I'm getting at.
Dead Money was the least well done of the New Vegas DLC, to me, but still a good one regardless of that. While Lonesome Road was the best of them.
Perhaps the people who paid for the BF4 gun pack value their time more than $50. They don’t want to waste all those hours unlocking the weapons, they just want to play and have fun. Also, why would you say people paying for the DLC are “losing at life”? The fact that they have more disposable income for luxury items says the opposite.
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It’s sad how poorly Midnight Suns sold the game was pretty cool even if the choice of some of the characters to use could have been better
It is a very good game, I'm glad it's part of Humble Choice this month. Sadly the AAA general market wasn't ready for an XCOM like game. devs/publisher didn't help themselves with how pricy it was on release, among other things... Similar thing with Baldur's Gate 3. I know it's not technically AAA) Not everyone was willing to give turn-based combat a go, while it sold well enough and obviously very highly rated by those who bought it. Compare it to Starfield, a perfectly fine game, though not even close to BG3's level. It had combat people were familiar with and was more accessible because of that. I know people were always going to be hyped and buy, it was Bethesda. But it's rated much more poorly but outclassing BG3 in sales.
Top 3 DLC's for New Vegas in my opinion were:
1: Old World Blues
2: Dead Money
3: Lonesome Road
I wasn't a huge fan of Honest Hearts (outside of the 1911 and Thompson) BUT, I loved the other DLC's. Honestly, Dead Money and Lonesome Road are pretty much tied on my ranking. I loved the difficulty of both and challenging them with different builds is a favorite past-time of mine.
The survivalist rifle and the story around it is the whole reson to play honest hearts imo
@@warp302 True... I completely forgot about that to be honest. I loved that free quest and rifle.
@@cameronwhite2760 It's one of the few 5.56 rifles that actually feel good to use endgame
@@warp302 It's 12.7mm Last I checked
@@cameronwhite2760 your right it is 12.7 my bad
Hey horse armor is practical. I paid good money for that horse.
The irony of the description of the video also being a good way to define the video itself is not lost on me. But just like others I feel you choosing Lonesome Road was just an error. If anything you could have used the Fallout 76's "premium" subscription or even the Fallout 4 DLCs that just added new stuff to build for your settlements without any content attached to them.
The issue with Sonic Frontiers's DLC was it should have had multiple playable characters at launch.
Call of Duty is now genuinely a pay to win game as well. Bought what I thought was a skin pack, and it also unlocked dual weild and explosive rockets as pistol ammo, which gave me the upper hand in basically every fight. Its pretty much pay to cheat lol
Has been for a long time. Cod had no skill level for ages.
Some of the weapons on BF4 you had to unlock on campaign, yet campaign often bugged out and/OR reset your saved data making the PS90 hard to get, I remember bc I was looking to get one irl but 1.7k nope
“Get out of here, you wee rascal!” Ima borrow that for everyday use.
Personally the MoonCrash DLC for Prey pissed me off the most. They had so many options for a DLC but decided on that lazy, boring option.
Hey! I like final horizon as we finally get to play as Amy, Tails and Knuckles again
Final Horizon went from a decent challenge to a total nightmare very fast. I'm never doing the Master King Koco trial ever again. You can't make me
While ill admit the way you get introduced to Awakening in Dragon Age isnt great, that full expansion was amazing
So no one at WhatCulture ever plays the games and just lazily decides a verdict for everything then? Yeah, that's not how journalism actually works.
Lonesome Road understood the nature of Fallout: New Vegas.
It was meant to play as a part of the game's true conclusion, the great conflict between two legendary figures in the Mojave wasteland, to decide its fate. Courier 6 was built up big time across the main story and throughout the DLCs. And I never hear anyone complain about it.. It's that good.
I would suggest instead of this, you COULD say that Mothership Zeta from Fallout 3 is a more worthy candidate for this list. I love Fallout 3, but even I will admit that this DLC misses the mark pretty badly.
I can see where they're coming from. They WANTED to make something campy, and draw influences from 1950s sci-fi. But where Old World Blues from New Vegas got this right with clever writing and interesting characters, Mothership Zeta unintentionally made these aliens utterly incompetent. The entire escape hinges on a staged fistfight in a holding cell, and then the alien guards just open the door and let themselves be murdered by the two prisoners (or one if you're like me and punched my cellmate until she stopped complaining how much my punches hurt).
Yes, I have killed Somah a few times, mostly because I wanted to be the sassiest thing on THIS side of Saturn. That's what she gets for being a former slaver (look it up).
But overall, as far as Fallout DLCs go, this one is definitely near the bottom for me. No connection to the main plot and unlike Lonesome Road, there is no payoff for the gauntlet they force you into. No moral ambiguity which they want players to explore like when they travel the wasteland. There is not conflict except 'Aliens bad, shoot aliens'.
This does not feel like Fallout to me.
Midnight suns dlc was great you clowns
Who let this guy upload this?!
How do you mess up lonesome road so bad. HOW DO YOU NOT ENJOY IT AS A FALLOUT FAN
What do you mean why Morbius? He is part of the “Midnight Sons” lol 😂
Honest hearts definitely deserved to be on here rather than lonesome road. Tis ones opinion though
You can't kill the sims with the pool anymore, they updated the game so your sims can climb out without the ladder. The end of an era...
Morbius was in the Midnight Sons comics from the 90s so
Wow this script suck and so did the bad jokes
there were jokes in this video?
@@hypan0vaULTRA A LOT of attempts.
Feels like yet another vid they just sh*t out. I never before publicly "threatened" to leave a channel, but...
Whatculture once again being beyond wrong. The Midnight Suns additional content was great and the characters were both interesting and interacted an commented on everything and never felt pasted in like many characters do. And somehow, he's fricking upset that Morbius, a FOUNDING MEMBER of the Midnight Suns, is in Midnight Suns? Really?
EDIT: Lonesome road? Really, jesus what a fucking joke this channel has become.
agreed 💯 with everything you said here. this comment needs more likes bc it's absolutely on point.
you had me until you put Lonesome Road in the mix... seriously guys? if anything the DLC that SHOULD have been in it's place is Honest Hearts! not an entirely BAD DLC when it comes to Joshua Graham and The Survivalist lore, but the zone is a CLUSTERFUCK of peaks and valleys, making completing the map a real pain in the ass. pair that with the lack of story, narrative decisions and abuse of Poison, HH is the one that stands out from the other DLC in a BAD way.
The warden's keep dlc was pretty good,though..
As long as we're talking about locking the true ending behind a paywall; I was more ticked off at Kingdom Hearts 3 for doing that. $30 extra to unlock the true ending? That my friend is the biggest of BS!
Yup especially becuse the ending we got on day 2 didn't make alot of sense anyway becuse the whole last 2 hour area bods fight was kinda meh
I honestly felt let down after how long I waited for kh3 didn't buy the dlc and haven't played it again since my first run through
This list could almost just be Ubisoft titles. I’ve regretted most of the DLC/expansions they’ve sold me. 😂
Talked about it before but Asuras Wrath - DLC - The end of the game! I’m still angry!
Whomever listed Lonesome Road didn't actually play New Vegas or its DLC.
If there’s any FNV DLC that should be on this list, it’s _Honest Hearts_ , not _Lonesome Road_ talk about (the former, not the latter) a snoozefest.
Also, are we *REALLY* just gonna sit around and pretend like the _Coiled Captors_ “PLC” for _Tiny Tina’s Wonderlands_ wasn’t a cash grab, waste of 5-10 minutes that nobody who actually played the damn thing, let alone bought it, and a slap in the face to players by Gearbox and 2K?!
Vid: oddly terrifying sonic fandom
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Lonesome road has a major point.
I really like the get to work pack....
So a pack for a life simulator which simulates an incredibly relatable part of life (i.e. working)...missed the point of the game? Think it's once again y'all that have missed the point here - the Sims 4 has many issues, don't get me wrong, but the get to work pack isn't one of them
When you thought Sega finally made a great 3d sonic game again😢
At least they kept the Avengers game on brand.
Wardens Keep and Shale could have made this list
Warden's Keep was on the list.
Whats going on with Ewans accent? Is he putting it on?
I've been trying to beat sonic: frontiers for my freaking son! The base game is hard! The collectables are horrible! Great game! Really hard! Why am I yelling? Play sonic frontiers %100 completion
Way to miss the point of Lonsome Road entirely
But he IS the egg man. Koo Koo
Tell us you didn't understand New Vegas without saying you didn't understand New Vegas lol
I am definitely not the Jigsaw Killer. Your face looks even scarier as Jigsaw.
MORBIUS?! WAIT WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?! GET OUT OF HERE! I guess Blade would want kill him. Morbius looks weird without a beard.
one of the worst lists I've ever seen from this channel, scott tier
Making a shitty show with little to do with fallout but making sure it pleases Twitter would be a mistake.
Your crazy. Pinnacle station was great and you get to stick it to that racist turian dude and get a great piece of armor as well.
The Mafia 2 "Jimmy" DLC's are probably the worst DLC's ever made.
Amazing, you open with a ton of absolute bullshit. That's a new record, I think.
I felt Dead Money was the worst of the New Vegas DLCs, I'm probably not gonna play it again on my next playthrough. Lonesome road may be linear, but it at least isn't Dead Money, and that's good enough for me.
I like Morbius. Show him some respect.
The order 1866 really wasn't on it
Why is so hard to put timestamps on the videos? The content are nice but hate not having time stamps and waste my time watching something i already know
I don't think they know how to.
The Mako wasn't that bad.
Pushing that stuff on gamer while jacking your cell phone bill to the moon? Way to go Verizon!!
Timestamps discount gameranx
The problem with Midnight Suns is that the devsloper/publisher used the wrong IP to sell its gameplay. Baldurs Gate 3 likewise would have failed if it were Marvel based instead of D&D. Thats unfortunate but you need to find the right mix of creativity and giving consumers what they want. Superheroes will sell best in action games while it will be harder to sell them on anything else. Id like to see a new IP in the style of Midnight Suns. That would do just fine.
Fallout nv shouldnt be here lonesome road has such a great fallout story to it and it ties together the couriers past to the start of the game its ment to be a burtal slog of combat that you have to fight through
Having Lonesome Road on here is the biggest L I’ve ever seen
Yeah, yall definitely whiffed on this video. Way too many decent and cheap dlc's on this list when the likes of fallout 4 dlc (besides far harbor) and oblivion horse armor exist. This scripty, low researched content is below you guys.
why has everyone stopped doing timestamps
Timestamps killed their fathers.
I'm sorry. I cannot watch anymore. I don't wanna speak ill about anyone at what culture, but the script for this was horrible and the reader voice is unappealing.
I'll catch you next time!
It's really just a couple people that made the company watchable.
Ash for the Horror, Simon Miller for Wrestling, and Jules for Gaming.
They got rid of Ash, Jules is only a contract worker now, so the channel is mostly meh.