One thing I love about this strategy is that you will never lose your entire bankroll if you set a ladder limit! Over 27% of your bankroll is protected and can be used to fight another day. So you do this at the $2 level, that would mean lay 16 each on the 4 and 10 and $2 each on the inside ($8 total). If you bring $488 to the table. That will get you all the way up to level 8. Say the worst case happens and you get 8 straight 4/10. Let’s assume the 4 is hit at level 8. You’re done. But you didn’t lose everything becauae you still have $72 on the 10 and 64 on the inside. That’s $136/$488 bankroll which is just over 27% of your buy in. That’s worse case scenario, but in reality you also had some wins along the way which would add to that. So it doesn’t take that many sessions to win your money back!! You only lose 1 four or 1 ten at a time, unlike purely light side strategies or don’t strategies where you can be entirely wiped out on 1 roll.
Genius!!! You just keep outdoing yourself. Every time I think there’s no way he comes out with something better than his last and baammmmmm it happens!!! Love love love this one Waylon!! I’ll be using this one whenever I want to go collect some cash 💰 from the casino!! 😮 WOW!!!!
Love this one. Rolled it 4 times in practice with Randy only. $2500 bankroll (which is probably not enough) . Twice made $500 easy. Twice got wiped the hell out by Randy. Damn dude was rolling 4/10s like crazy. I did notice, like the unbeatable $160, this is one of those strategies that instead of laddering all the way down, pay attention to your BR. You can be in profit and have exposure to $900 on the table exposed for no reason. Good stuff Waylon.
@Waylon's Way Craps I'll try to get a video out and see what happens. I hope it succeeds but if it doesn't that's also good to know if a tweak can be made.
@Steve Fisher I know Waylon well enough after watching his videos that he is a stop loss zero guy. So he brings to the casino what he plans to lose. But if you have a stop loss then follow that. Otherwise bring the money to be able to ladder. I will say only ladder up and ladder down in my opinion if you have a deficit or want to get a little extra cash and risk it.
@Red Eye Hey appreciate the support. Yeah i don't see how only having good sessions is beneficial. I prefer to see something get clobbered BUT win 14 out of 15 times than see 30 awesome wins in a row. Not saying it can't happen but doesn't seem authentic.
Just seeing a progression of how fast you can lose it all. I enjoy all the strategies because as a simple craps player I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone play like you and I find it very educational. Of all your methods which one do rely on the most.
Very Nice! 👍🏻 You mentioned daily paycheck. How about doing a daily paycheck series with this strategy? If you’re up for it. Thanks for another keeper Waylon! Just rolled it out 3 times on the wizard with success. Highest 4&10 was 5 and came back strong. This would work well on bubble craps too. $40 lay 4&10 each with $5 on each of the inside numbers, $20 total. If you roll a 4 or 10 then add $20 to the 4&10 and another $20 on the inside. Will work at any level as long as you start with a 4:1 ratio at the onset. Thanks again brother for all you do!
I concur a daily paycheck with this strategy would be awesome 🤠 if it wins to quick you could downsize it to 120-150 lays with 66-88 inside and double from there to grind out a longer session.
This one is one of those sneaky strategies. I had laddered up 5 steps, then started back down when I started hitting numbers. I only came down 2 steps when I realized I was up $450.
Waylon tried this with 2000 BR when you were trying out the" Doc Holiday strategy " for the first time adding the 5&9. Using your roils I could not make a profit; I did manage to break even. So try it with your rolls I don't think you will win. Maybe with bigger BR but I only practice with what I have in my actual BR. Thank s for your time and knowledge.
I keep at track of the number of hits with my white chips so I don’t forget, 1,2 or 3 hits 1, 2 or 3 white chips. I’ve used this strategy with a tweak, I press 3 or 4 hits, take down to base level start over, WYT?
Best way for the tables to start rolling 4/10’s is for me to lay then damn numbers I swear! Definitely going to roll this on my table, I do nothing but shake and chuck em. If I show profits I’ll be able to pull that squirrel off my shoulder when I lay those damn 4/10’s. 😂😂
played this for five days in Vegas. changed one aspect . Did not work the numbers on come out which gave me higher overall profit. But when I got up to the six hundred level on 4&10, had to throw an extra number before going down a level. had 75% winning sessions, and one bad session of $400 loss where there were six four and sevens in a row at $500 and above level.
It's very clear n easy too... sweet rolling.. from the way it looks..its a "cant lose" total winner.. all the way around solid .. 21 to 6 ... gotta love those odds
Hey Waylon could you tell me a good dice set to avoid the 4 and 10. Been playing this at local casino they just opened a stadium craps done good past 2 days. But if rolling don’t want to shoot myself in the foot with 4 and 10
@@HasanAmir-v3d the 4-10 is like the 7 ! You can't avoid them ! 6 combinations to roll 4&10s , 6 combinations to roll a 7! 50/50 shot! However hard way sets throw lots of 7s imo
Would of probably rolled better on a table… I think them bubble craps know .. ? Once it starts going up… low level wins a few bucks is easy ..but once those levels rise .. every other roll bam it kept hitting the lay..dammit that sucked @! Very fortunate to of gotten saved by a random slot hit after.. good thing I didn’t completely tilt
Would adding a field bet and a line bet (either only if you are the shooter or all the time), i.e., iron cross on steroids, work for this, to win on more numbers? The 4 and 10, instead of winning 8 units on a 7 would win 6?
Interesting Waylon. Ever tried it live at casino? Let Us Know ! Appreciate ya. Also, as a control shooter, would you recommend I just "chuck them" when Im shooting ?
No sir! I set my dice when I shoot! I just test my strategies Random throwing! If they can win against Random Randy they can damn sure win with a good shooter
Thanks Waylon this would be great for 3 rolls and out... But this bring up a question I been thinking on. I love 100 180 strategy but I get burned on 3 rolls and out when table goes cold. I was thinking on combining reverse mortgage 4 & 10 $50 with $100 dont pass for first 3 rolls. Then 100 & 180 for one hit. Bring it all down ride out don't pass. Is 2k enough or is there a different strategy I should use for 3 hit and out randy. Think about.... thanks for your videos.
Thanks Waylon 😊 I'll keep working on it. I'm new shooter just need to get feel for the table need to use right strategy for the time. That free balling video said alot on all accounts...😊
@@waylonswaycraps I didn’t see that the first level is $200 on 4 and 10, but after I rewatched it I saw it. Makes more sense. Thanks so much for your videos! Love that we have real craps in Arizona now!
WAYLAND…I love this strategy also . Only problem is the Boston casino wants the lay VIG up front . So even when we lose the lay bet , we have to pay again and again the VIG/ lay bets … can we still over come paying this VIG over and over ? Foxwoods only charges VIG after ya hit the lay bet but that’s 4 hours round trip away . Please , your thoughts on this ?Ty very much again .
Nice. I literally just played this in LV. I didn’t come down a level when a 7 out hits because that was a push the way I had it set up. Did well. Bought in for $1500 and 2 shooters killed me back to back as I had to add on $500 at one point because I was up to the 5th level-$500/4&10. Won about $850 by the time it came back down. Turned it off the next time those guys rolled and one of them hit 5 4/10s before any 7. Lucky to avoid it. Prob going to wait until i see a number of 4 or 10s before i start it next time. 3k bank roll is probably a minimum IMO but I was just testing things before I realized that. I was just using $100 on the 4/10 to start….maybe I need to double that like you just showed. Gonna try that next time.,however I think I only needed 2 hits to come back down for most levels. That’s why I watch your channels. You have great ideas. 24 wins vs 6 losses. Math is in the favor for sure
Yes your ratio needs to change go up 2 units on the lays + a bigger buy in. I have done this at the 100 lay level in Vegas & at my local casinos in the past year with 66-88 inside & and when the 4's & 10's are rolling I would lose about -600 per session tomany times before I realized I needed to change the lays it to make the 7 count for more, Waylon got the receipe just right 💯 PS some dealers hate when you don't cap the 6&8 hard math for the new ones I guess when the count gets up there I've found so I cap them.
@@censr1 I HAD TWO SESSIONS, PLAYING BLACK CHIPS, AND WAS UP TO LEVEL 6 OR 7. THE PROBLEM WAS THAT THE SHOOTER WAS ROLLING 4 AND 10s and BARELY ANY 6 & 8s in WAYLON'S OTHER 4 & 10 STRATEGY. THOSE TABLES WILL KILL YOU. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY FEEDBACK. BOBBY
@@rcojrpc2085 How much was your inside 110, 66 or 88? For every $50 you go up on the lays I would increase your inside $22 a unit up on each 5,6,6,5. Example $100 lays on each the 4 &10, you get knocked off on a lay then you go up to $150 on each the 4/10 plus $22 more on your inside, so depending on how much your inside was you just go up.. 44,66,88,110,132,154,166 ect. Once you get a couple inside hits you can come down $50 on each lay to keep them from getting to high. If you're up and you want to make more on the inside and not make your 7 valuable you can just go with 100 lays and 110 inside, if the 7 comes you only lose -$15, sometimes I will do that on the come out to get a early jump on a inside hit for +$35 then regress the inside back to $88 inside.
Waylon which do you like best? This version, your version 2 where you press, or your inside bankroll management version. Also if you get hit twice from same shooter on 4 and 10 would you just wait on next shooter? I was playing your lay 410 today. Was getting killed from one guy I finally gave up playing on him. Grinded my way back to win 175
On crapsee u can play $25 on 6/8 Not at the casino No need to show the point if ALWAYS working.. Stay on the roll it pays.. Rolls on .. Christ IS king.. Amen to that one brother
I would mix this strategy with your worlds greatest strategy, in that, lay the 4/10 on your come out roll. My guess is you already have shown on video on just that(: So, a question, let’s say you lay a 4/10 do you only have to pay the vig when you win. The reason I ask is that if I take down my Lay 4/10 do I still have to pay a vig?
That was gonna be my question? What if you roll alot of say 4's how would you do the math if only laying the 10.Or if you do roll alot of 4's & 10's would you just not play this strategy?
I rolled this out at those amounts at home and busted, I had a 5k bankroll to start but at 3.7k loss I didn't have enough to keep playing at that pressed up level., so maybe you'll need at least a 10k bankroll for it to have better chance to recover. I got to the 6th level tomany times, I kept coming down to about the 4th level, only to then go back up to 500 and then 600 on each lay 🤦🏻♂️ it got brutal very quick once I got up +500 in profit I should of ended it because around the 4th and up level you can go just 2 hits insted of 3 to bring your lays down quicker before they reach irretrievable levels which is what still happened to my 5k buy in 🤷🏻♂️ at the 6th level maybe just regress with 1 hit because if you go past the 6th level then it doesn't even make sense to keep going up unless you have a death wish so at that point you might as well quit or drop down to base level.
Nice 👍 🙂, I am wondering ... Looks like if you're only able to get 2 hits on a level ... a one hit on the upper level is all you would need to come back down to a lower level, I think that's what you were saying at the end if I'm rite. An even better strat if that's true.
@@waylonswaycraps 144 up 22 min on 500 br 15 table ------ ''out da door'' big outback steak + 20 ounce coors on way home....................thats how this dog rolls ..............the indians paid for my fun...they can afford it.................immediate reset even when up a dollar.....................only way to do it
@@waylonswaycraps ddp1 trifecta....... 1 good strat 2 stick to plan 3 knowing when to lace da walking shoes..............///............most people don't have all three.................😜😜😜😜
I've been playing it on Crapsee all day and haven't lost yet with it! I'm sure I'll lose sooner or later though! It'll figure out my betting algorithm and roll 20 4&10s before a 7 lol
@@waylonswaycraps Well, I guess anything is possible. I don’t really trust computer craps because its algorithms can track your strategy. The only way to lose is if you keep rolling 4s or 10s before you’re able to drop back down to base level. If you get to level 5 and only get 2 hits before a 4/10 shows, then you gotta go to level 6. It is possible for this to keep occurring, especially on computer craps. And Wizard of Odds always starts you out with a $10,000 bankroll.
That shit is a total farce. Switch to ANY strategy on Earth and that thing beats you NO MATTER WHAT instantly. I tried this there too and it literally will throw 4's & 10's every 2 throws of the dice and then hit 3 and 4 in a row, then 14 out of 17 are 4's and 10's.... the simulator just wont even throw a 7 while youre doing this. Switch to something where ya play against the 7....the simulator will immediately start 7 outing like every single roll. That simulator is THE DEFINITION of a pile of shit.
Tried this strategy on wizard of odds and got my ass handed me....does anybody else have problems with that simulator or is it just me...seams like somethings up with that program
100% a problematic simulator. The guy is a math guy that runs Wizard. He definitely designed it so players would lose their bankrolls while trying things. I think he does it so people dont play negative expectation games at all because in the long run 99% of players will lose playing games with negative expectation. You could switch to betting the 4 & 10 and wizards simulator would IMMEDIATELY start throwing 7s every other throw. The way i know that thing is fkd up is because the average shooter throws the dice ab 6 times before a 7 out... when you play against the 7 in that simulator it throws a 7 ab every 2 or 3 rolls nonstop until you switch strategies... then itll start beating the new strategy instantly. Its a shitty simulator.
I appriciate all the craps info and i find something interesting. You have never lost your bank roll in any one of your strategy video post. Kinda Strange
All strategies lose ! We all know that right? I test all my strategies before I post them on my page! If they have a good winning percentage Ill post it! If you're looking for a channel that loses money all the time this ain't the one!
By the way I lost my whole bankroll in my daily paycheck series last week! I also won 170 thousand dollars ( live ) last year with my Strategies in 13 days! Started with 2500$ bankroll
One thing I love about this strategy is that you will never lose your entire bankroll if you set a ladder limit! Over 27% of your bankroll is protected and can be used to fight another day.
So you do this at the $2 level, that would mean lay 16 each on the 4 and 10 and $2 each on the inside ($8 total). If you bring $488 to the table. That will get you all the way up to level 8. Say the worst case happens and you get 8 straight 4/10. Let’s assume the 4 is hit at level 8. You’re done. But you didn’t lose everything becauae you still have $72 on the 10 and 64 on the inside. That’s $136/$488 bankroll which is just over 27% of your buy in. That’s worse case scenario, but in reality you also had some wins along the way which would add to that. So it doesn’t take that many sessions to win your money back!!
You only lose 1 four or 1 ten at a time, unlike purely light side strategies or don’t strategies where you can be entirely wiped out on 1 roll.
I agree 100%
Genius!!! You just keep outdoing yourself. Every time I think there’s no way he comes out with something better than his last and baammmmmm it happens!!! Love love love this one Waylon!! I’ll be using this one whenever I want to go collect some cash 💰 from the casino!! 😮 WOW!!!!
Thanks brother
Love this one. Rolled it 4 times in practice with Randy only. $2500 bankroll (which is probably not enough) . Twice made $500 easy. Twice got wiped the hell out by Randy. Damn dude was rolling 4/10s like crazy.
I did notice, like the unbeatable $160, this is one of those strategies that instead of laddering all the way down, pay attention to your BR. You can be in profit and have exposure to $900 on the table exposed for no reason.
Good stuff Waylon.
Randy is crazy sometimes lol
@Waylon's Way Craps I'll try to get a video out and see what happens. I hope it succeeds but if it doesn't that's also good to know if a tweak can be made.
A few 4s/10s in a row would hurt real bad. Question is…how far up do you ladder when those 4/10s are hitting?
@Steve Fisher I know Waylon well enough after watching his videos that he is a stop loss zero guy. So he brings to the casino what he plans to lose. But if you have a stop loss then follow that. Otherwise bring the money to be able to ladder. I will say only ladder up and ladder down in my opinion if you have a deficit or want to get a little extra cash and risk it.
@Red Eye Hey appreciate the support. Yeah i don't see how only having good sessions is beneficial. I prefer to see something get clobbered BUT win 14 out of 15 times than see 30 awesome wins in a row. Not saying it can't happen but doesn't seem authentic.
Have John roll this out Waylon in the paycheck series! If it can be beat he can do it!🤣😂😅
It can be beat no doubt! Several people on here say they've lost
I’ve watched at least 15 videos and you have never lost. Show one strategy when it doesn’t work. All methods are new to me and very interesting.
Everybody knows anything can lose brother,so what's the point?
Just seeing a progression of how fast you can lose it all. I enjoy all the strategies because as a simple craps player I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone play like you and I find it very educational. Of all your methods which one do rely on the most.
@@thomasrichardson-ev1wp I never stick to a strategy that ain't working! I'll switch up in a heartbeat if it ain't working
Very Nice! 👍🏻 You mentioned daily paycheck. How about doing a daily paycheck series with this strategy? If you’re up for it. Thanks for another keeper Waylon! Just rolled it out 3 times on the wizard with success. Highest 4&10 was 5 and came back strong. This would work well on bubble craps too. $40 lay 4&10 each with $5 on each of the inside numbers, $20 total. If you roll a 4 or 10 then add $20 to the 4&10 and another $20 on the inside. Will work at any level as long as you start with a 4:1 ratio at the onset. Thanks again brother for all you do!
Nice brother! Yeah it'll work on the bubble no doubt
I concur a daily paycheck with this strategy would be awesome 🤠 if it wins to quick you could downsize it to 120-150 lays with 66-88 inside and double from there to grind out a longer session.
This one is one of those sneaky strategies. I had laddered up 5 steps, then started back down when I started hitting numbers. I only came down 2 steps when I realized I was up $450.
Exactly! Alot of people say they don't like this strategy! It's not the strategy ,it's them not paying attention to their bankroll
Another way to look at this: you have 24 numbers that win, and 6 that lose. That's 4-1 odds. Can you get that anywhere else in the casino?
@@gordonwong1946 exactly! That's about the best you're gonna get
Oh wow I may have fallen in love with this one... i'm definitely gonna try this shit out!!
Lol
Waylon tried this with 2000 BR when you were trying out the" Doc Holiday strategy " for the first time adding the 5&9. Using your roils I could not make a profit; I did manage to break even. So try it with your rolls I don't think you will win. Maybe with bigger BR but I only practice with what I have in my actual BR. Thank s for your time and knowledge.
Awesome strategy. Will be trying in a couple of weeks. Will update
I keep at track of the number of hits with my white chips so I don’t forget, 1,2 or 3 hits 1, 2 or 3 white chips.
I’ve used this strategy with a tweak, I press 3 or 4 hits, take down to base level start over, WYT?
Sounds good! I do the same sometimes
Love this , going to Vegas 26th gonna use it
Good luck brother
I wonder if odds could change the factors?
Best way for the tables to start rolling 4/10’s is for me to lay then damn numbers I swear! Definitely going to roll this on my table, I do nothing but shake and chuck em. If I show profits I’ll be able to pull that squirrel off my shoulder when I lay those damn 4/10’s. 😂😂
You are right about bringing the numbers by putting a lay on them. I feel the same.
Lol yeah it happens to me sometimes
This is the new ‘ONE’ love it ❤
Thanks brother
Just rolled this out. I went 10-4-10 and thought oh shit. Fought back for a $735 profit. Thanks my friend. $$$
Dang brother that's a nice win! $$$
played this for five days in Vegas. changed one aspect . Did not work the numbers on come out which gave me higher overall profit. But when I got up to the six hundred level on 4&10, had to throw an extra number before going down a level. had 75% winning sessions, and one bad session of $400 loss where there were six four and sevens in a row at $500 and above level.
Nice job!
It's very clear n easy too... sweet rolling.. from the way it looks..its a "cant lose" total winner.. all the way around solid .. 21 to 6 ... gotta love those odds
24 to 6*
Amen! Except for the Tide! Go Dawgs ! 😁
Roll Tide 🌊
Hey Waylon could you tell me a good dice set to avoid the 4 and 10. Been playing this at local casino they just opened a stadium craps done good past 2 days. But if rolling don’t want to shoot myself in the foot with 4 and 10
@@HasanAmir-v3d the 4-10 is like the 7 ! You can't avoid them ! 6 combinations to roll 4&10s , 6 combinations to roll a 7! 50/50 shot! However hard way sets throw lots of 7s imo
I like it.. 24 combos to win 6 combos lose. Super good.
Yeah the maths definitely in your favor
Would of probably rolled better on a table… I think them bubble craps know .. ? Once it starts going up… low level wins a few bucks is easy ..but once those levels rise .. every other roll bam it kept hitting the lay..dammit that sucked @! Very fortunate to of gotten saved by a random slot hit after.. good thing I didn’t completely tilt
Would adding a field bet and a line bet (either only if you are the shooter or all the time), i.e., iron cross on steroids, work for this, to win on more numbers? The 4 and 10, instead of winning 8 units on a 7 would win 6?
Interesting Waylon. Ever tried it live at casino? Let Us Know ! Appreciate ya. Also, as a control shooter, would you recommend I just "chuck them" when Im shooting ?
No sir! I set my dice when I shoot! I just test my strategies Random throwing! If they can win against Random Randy they can damn sure win with a good shooter
Haven't tested it out yet but wow this looks solid, great work!
It does pretty good! It can be beat if you roll a lot of 4&10s however
Probably my favorite strategy yet
I'm glad you like it
I'm going to scale it back half. I think the key is making money on the seven.
Dang this one is good too! So I guess on a $10 table you would put $80 on the 4 and 10 right?
Love this. How does this scale down?
The lays are 8x the inside bets!
if you lay the 4 and 10 i thought it paid 50 for every 100. so, 4 and 10 would pay 100 no 200 on a PSO?
200$ on each pays 200$ ! I paid it right every time brother!
Thanks Waylon this would be great for 3 rolls and out... But this bring up a question I been thinking on. I love 100 180 strategy but I get burned on 3 rolls and out when table goes cold. I was thinking on combining reverse mortgage 4 & 10 $50 with $100 dont pass for first 3 rolls. Then 100 & 180 for one hit. Bring it all down ride out don't pass. Is 2k enough or is there a different strategy I should use for 3 hit and out randy. Think about.... thanks for your videos.
Sounds good! I'd have to roll it out but 2 g doesn't seem enough
Thanks Waylon 😊 I'll keep working on it. I'm new shooter just need to get feel for the table need to use right strategy for the time. That free balling video said alot on all accounts...😊
I thought the “one” was crazy good . This one is as food as the “one”
Thanks brother!
I like this one the best. There is money to be made throwing 5s and 9s also!
Absolutely
@@waylonswaycraps I didn’t see that the first level is $200 on 4 and 10, but after I rewatched it I saw it. Makes more sense.
Thanks so much for your videos! Love that we have real craps in Arizona now!
Looks like another amazing strategy from you, how would you suggest I bet on a $10 table?
Based on the math, lay $40 4/10 & $10 inside
This one is as tough as a dung beetle!
Lol 😂😂😂
How to run a toothpick into a lumberyard....
I guess.. this is all new to me .. if the table minimum is $25/ $24 wouldn't apply to the 6/8.. most likely
WAYLAND…I love this strategy also . Only problem is the Boston casino wants the lay VIG up front . So even when we lose the lay bet , we have to pay again and again the VIG/ lay bets … can we still over come paying this VIG over and over ? Foxwoods only charges VIG after ya hit the lay bet but that’s 4 hours round trip away . Please , your thoughts on this ?Ty very much again .
I wouldn't even play craps at a casino that charged vig upfront! Freaking crooks
@@waylonswaycraps I played this other day and lost 1k ….7’s just destroyed me . Soo many omg !
Sorry that was the sneaky Dixie that I lost 1 k on not this one .
@robertferdinand3688 You should have been winning with the 7s with this strategy, you only lose with the 4 or 10
Nice. I literally just played this in LV. I didn’t come down a level when a 7 out hits because that was a push the way I had it set up. Did well. Bought in for $1500 and 2 shooters killed me back to back as I had to add on $500 at one point because I was up to the 5th level-$500/4&10. Won about $850 by the time it came back down. Turned it off the next time those guys rolled and one of them hit 5 4/10s before any 7. Lucky to avoid it. Prob going to wait until i see a number of 4 or 10s before i start it next time. 3k bank roll is probably a minimum IMO but I was just testing things before I realized that. I was just using $100 on the 4/10 to start….maybe I need to double that like you just showed. Gonna try that next time.,however I think I only needed 2 hits to come back down for most levels. That’s why I watch your channels. You have great ideas. 24 wins vs 6 losses. Math is in the favor for sure
Yes your ratio needs to change go up 2 units on the lays + a bigger buy in. I have done this at the 100 lay level in Vegas & at my local casinos in the past year with 66-88 inside & and when the 4's & 10's are rolling I would lose about -600 per session tomany times before I realized I needed to change the lays it to make the 7 count for more, Waylon got the receipe just right 💯 PS some dealers hate when you don't cap the 6&8 hard math for the new ones I guess when the count gets up there I've found so I cap them.
@@censr1
I HAD TWO SESSIONS, PLAYING BLACK CHIPS, AND WAS UP TO LEVEL 6 OR 7. THE PROBLEM WAS THAT THE SHOOTER WAS ROLLING 4 AND 10s and BARELY ANY 6 & 8s in WAYLON'S OTHER 4 & 10 STRATEGY. THOSE TABLES WILL KILL YOU. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY FEEDBACK. BOBBY
@@rcojrpc2085 How much was your inside 110, 66 or 88? For every $50 you go up on the lays I would increase your inside $22 a unit up on each 5,6,6,5. Example $100 lays on each the 4 &10, you get knocked off on a lay then you go up to $150 on each the 4/10 plus $22 more on your inside, so depending on how much your inside was you just go up.. 44,66,88,110,132,154,166 ect. Once you get a couple inside hits you can come down $50 on each lay to keep them from getting to high. If you're up and you want to make more on the inside and not make your 7 valuable you can just go with 100 lays and 110 inside, if the 7 comes you only lose -$15, sometimes I will do that on the come out to get a early jump on a inside hit for +$35 then regress the inside back to $88 inside.
Waylon which do you like best? This version, your version 2 where you press, or your inside bankroll management version. Also if you get hit twice from same shooter on 4 and 10 would you just wait on next shooter? I was playing your lay 410 today. Was getting killed from one guy I finally gave up playing on him. Grinded my way back to win 175
1,2,3 $ chips slid left or right on each win... tracking n racking babe.. may help? A slide system.. helps when the distractions are many.. ??
Only issue is bankroll wish I had 2000 bankroll or more I usually do 3 to 500. So probably won't work for me
Play it at any level you like ! Math is easy
Do u play it like the 4/10 pays to perhaps inside the casino..
May work?
The second time I tried it the number four came up four times in a row, followed by the number 10 three times in a row. Game over
Do you like this strategy better than the Iron Hop?
Hard to say! I like them both
On crapsee u can play $25 on 6/8
Not at the casino
No need to show the point if ALWAYS working.. Stay on the roll it pays.. Rolls on ..
Christ IS king..
Amen to that one brother
You are the true Craps Wizard !!!!
At 8:40 when you weren't sure 3 hits or 2... you were right it was 3 hits.
I would mix this strategy with your worlds greatest strategy, in that, lay the 4/10 on your come out roll. My guess is you already have shown on video on just that(: So, a question, let’s say you lay a 4/10 do you only have to pay the vig when you win. The reason I ask is that if I take down my Lay 4/10 do I still have to pay a vig?
No
Don’t you have to do a pass line bet in order to play? Also don’t you have to establish the point? Thanks. I’m trying to learn
Only if you're the shooter! Pass or don't pass
Pass line or don't pass if you are shooting. No point needed if your bets are working. The lay bets always work
This strat really is Shocker Saucy!!!
Lol yeah it's a good one
call this the Mahomes strategy
The Patty Cake lol
Adding odds on the point or "randy" ..
Hmm I wonder brother
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I might actually use real money on this.
Why not add $25 on the hard 4 + 10 as insurance ?
You can do that no problem! It will save you a lot of times
That was gonna be my question? What if you roll alot of say 4's how would you do the math if only laying the 10.Or if you do roll alot of 4's & 10's would you just not play this strategy?
I'd be betting them if I were rolling a lot of them
@@waylonswaycraps So basically do the opposite and play the 4/10 from the Don't ie; "The World's Greatest Strategy " 😉
Nailing 4 and 10$ on bubble craps left and right… luckily a slot machine got me even again… looks good in theory if them 4/10 hits don’t come
Bubble Craps rolls too many 4&10s real tables dont
Have you used this at a casino on a real craps table yet?
Oh yeah plenty!
Probably couldn't hurt if done right
$500 a day. In and out. 😎
Yes sir
I rolled this out at those amounts at home and busted, I had a 5k bankroll to start but at 3.7k loss I didn't have enough to keep playing at that pressed up level., so maybe you'll need at least a 10k bankroll for it to have better chance to recover. I got to the 6th level tomany times, I kept coming down to about the 4th level, only to then go back up to 500 and then 600 on each lay 🤦🏻♂️ it got brutal very quick once I got up +500 in profit I should of ended it because around the 4th and up level you can go just 2 hits insted of 3 to bring your lays down quicker before they reach irretrievable levels which is what still happened to my 5k buy in 🤷🏻♂️ at the 6th level maybe just regress with 1 hit because if you go past the 6th level then it doesn't even make sense to keep going up unless you have a death wish so at that point you might as well quit or drop down to base level.
Maybe buy the 4&10 at level 5 instead if you can shoot that good! That'll get you back in profit in one or 2 hits
Nice 👍 🙂, I am wondering ...
Looks like if you're only able to get 2 hits on a level ...
a one hit on the upper level is all you would need
to come back down to a lower level,
I think that's what you were saying at the end if I'm rite.
An even better strat if that's true.
If you're up pretty good in profit
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Evening Amigo
Evening brother!
Keeper!
Thanks brother
Nice
Thanks brother
Meant $4000 loss in one session.
If it wins every time why wouldn’t you just do this for a living?
Nothing wins everytime! And I wouldn't do it for a living if it did ! I love doing other stuff a lot more than Craps
played it today live 66 inside 75 4 and 10...................... back to base even one dollar in profit........think only way to play it
That's probably the best way out of them all at the end of the day!
How'd it go brother?
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Will the casino insist that you put caps on the 6/8?
Mine don't but some that can't add might
@@waylonswaycraps I just played this on Wizard of Odds. I was up $600 in 5 minutes.
@@BW-kv9wj Did you read the comment the other guy just put out? He said he lost his whole br in an instant playing this on wizard of odds ?
I've been playing it on Crapsee all day and haven't lost yet with it! I'm sure I'll lose sooner or later though! It'll figure out my betting algorithm and roll 20 4&10s before a 7 lol
@@waylonswaycraps Well, I guess anything is possible. I don’t really trust computer craps because its algorithms can track your strategy. The only way to lose is if you keep rolling 4s or 10s before you’re able to drop back down to base level. If you get to level 5 and only get 2 hits before a 4/10 shows, then you gotta go to level 6. It is possible for this to keep occurring, especially on computer craps. And Wizard of Odds always starts you out with a $10,000 bankroll.
I do not understand paying 29 for a25 bet on 6 and 8
That's what it pays! Just like 30 pays 35! No different
25 ÷ 6 is 4.166667. 4.166667 x 7 is 29.166667. Drop the decimals to the right of the point and you have 29.
8k bank will do.
The only way I m realyy going to see is to start trying n playing
I rolled this on wizard of odds and got beat in an instant.
Lmao 4&10 sharp shooter! I wanna go play with you so I can get rich on those double payouts!
You'll make a million dollars with the 4&10 ladder on wizard of odds then! $$$$
That shit is a total farce. Switch to ANY strategy on Earth and that thing beats you NO MATTER WHAT instantly. I tried this there too and it literally will throw 4's & 10's every 2 throws of the dice and then hit 3 and 4 in a row, then 14 out of 17 are 4's and 10's.... the simulator just wont even throw a 7 while youre doing this. Switch to something where ya play against the 7....the simulator will immediately start 7 outing like every single roll. That simulator is THE DEFINITION of a pile of shit.
Tried this strategy on wizard of odds and got my ass handed me....does anybody else have problems with that simulator or is it just me...seams like somethings up with that program
Problem with these craps apps is they recognize your betting pattern and roll the total opposite
100% a problematic simulator. The guy is a math guy that runs Wizard. He definitely designed it so players would lose their bankrolls while trying things. I think he does it so people dont play negative expectation games at all because in the long run 99% of players will lose playing games with negative expectation. You could switch to betting the 4 & 10 and wizards simulator would IMMEDIATELY start throwing 7s every other throw. The way i know that thing is fkd up is because the average shooter throws the dice ab 6 times before a 7 out... when you play against the 7 in that simulator it throws a 7 ab every 2 or 3 rolls nonstop until you switch strategies... then itll start beating the new strategy instantly. Its a shitty simulator.
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I appriciate all the craps info and i find something interesting. You have never lost your bank roll in any one of your strategy video post. Kinda Strange
All strategies lose ! We all know that right? I test all my strategies before I post them on my page! If they have a good winning percentage Ill post it! If you're looking for a channel that loses money all the time this ain't the one!
By the way I lost my whole bankroll in my daily paycheck series last week! I also won 170 thousand dollars ( live ) last year with my Strategies in 13 days! Started with 2500$ bankroll
Win on a loss❤