Two Piece Machine Vise Build
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2018
- This one's been a long time coming: 2 piece vise for the milling machine and CNC router!
You'll never believe how many pieces!! (two)
If you're into vises, check out Mr. Pete's builds:
/ mrpete222 - Наука та технологія
When you used the dial indicator on the part after the surface grinding I apparently made a sound that made my girl jealous
Samezies
I didn’t know, I could feel those emotions
BAh hah hah yes!!!
😂😂😂
Who says men aren’t sensitive?
"...the other old tony..."
So... This Old Tony and That Old Tony?
Good name for a second channel
You are the only person capable of making me spend 22min watching a video I already watch before 😊
Thank you for letting us enjoy machining 🙏
I think I'm on the 4th time now
This is my 6th not enough uploading but that’s ok because it forces us to re watch our favorites
I knew I watched it before, but when I got done I wanted to upvote it again.
You mean apart from the 58min of....
"MILF Machinist Does Dallas" 🤭
3:46 casually sitting here knowing two years after this vid theres now the "it was cake all along meme"
Holy sh*t!! Me to!!
My mag Chuck brings all the boys to the yard was comedy gold. I actually laughed out loud, that doesn't happen very often.
cucumber fruit agreed, that was the funniest thing I've heard in a while....it broke my brain🤪
Of course it doesnt happen, youre a fruit, everyone knows vegetables have the better sense of humor lol
Me too. Coffee on the kitchen table.
I think we all learn not to drink anything while watching ToT that way.
(It was Pepsi on my keyboard for me - months and a few cleanings ago, but my shift key still occasionally sticks)
Made my day xD
Oh I’m excited for this!!
Back to work Alec! more videos from yourself! :)
Your guilty pleasure hmm?
omg alec steele, love your channel man
Alec Steele Love your work mate!
I'm excited for a colab, get it done you two!
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How does a man seduce 44,000 people to watch a 22 minute video about a couple hunks of metal? ToT has that special touch. Amazing. Always makes me happy when I watch your videos.
They should play his videos in mental health clinic waiting rooms...
*115,000+ people a day later, and counting XD
Hilarious deadpan narration helps, I'm sure
Marion Makarewicz so many views in less than 24hrs
He seduced you like one of his French girls
For those wondering why he puts the part diagonally instead of parallel to the back rail, it's for heat reduction. Less time for the wheel to "dwell" on the part means more air over it instead. Lets heat escape. Flood cooling in conjunction makes for a virtually cool part after grinding unless you're really hogging down.
Personally I do this because I can never get (read: am too lazy to get) the part perfectly straight, so all the grinder marks end up sightly wonky and it looks less then great.
Doing it like this makes it look like I *chose* to have wonky grinder marks...
Thanks for the enlightenment, Billy C!
I had never thought about there being any changes from the heat, but it makes sense.
Now when I use my ancient Butterfly surface grinder, I'll try the misaligned "wonky" method and see if it keeps the work, more acurate.
Additional to cooling the part, it also make for a shorter distance to move the table in some context. Though cooling the part is probably more important.
Every time I get frustrated of *UA-cam* , I come and hang out in this channel
After a very frustrating day at work, nothing like getting home, sitting down on the couch and having the missus hand me an ice cold glass of This Old Tony to make my cares just melt away.
This ol tony. I can’t thank you enough for your videos. 25 years ago or so, My step dad ( God rest his soul) for years tried to teach me this trade as he was a professional welder and machinist for over 40 years. Yet I was such a stubborn shithead of a teen I refused to listen. I missed out on so much knowledge from the decades of experience he had because of my poor attitude. Now, that I have 4 kids of my own and a successful business, I find myself paying out the ears to fabricate parts and prototypes . I am finally doing a lot of my own and fixing things that break around the house . Finding your channel is helping fill the gap of knowledge and tricks of the trade I missed out on so many years ago. Thank you for that and your sharing of your knowledge. I truly appreciate it.
Hope you and your family have a wonderful and successful 2020 ! Happy New Years !
-New Loyal Subscriber
Cutting that stock was a piece of cake.
I was expecting him to show cutting the "precision ground round" and have it showing ... well, ... ground round ... on the end ... Maybe the same gag, twice, in a row would have made it go from "gag" to "groaner." Don't need that surprise in the shop.
Not sure if its been said, but I believe you are the Bob Ross of machining parts. Always entertaining and informative
"Grinding this is optional"... when you have a grinder everything gets ground.
12:10 - I bring you 15 (crash)... 10 commandments!
People like you who share their knowledge are goddamn heroes
Foxtrot Mike Lima Agreed
Haha, for the S.U.B.S.C.R.I.B.E smoothly done bud :D
had a laugh
This mans creativity is very wise
nobody does it better
Subtle
It is hard to explain to anyone other than another watcher how captivating it is to listen to a pair of hands talking to me...
TV and Netflix are off in the bin, ‘This Old Tonys’ UA-cam channel is the way forward, please never ever ever stop recording these videos. Keep up the good work. Absolutely awesome. Thanks.
Don't ever stop making videos. They are informative, creative, highly entertaining and very well done. More please!!!
Remember, mortal: everything is made of rubber. There is a caveat associated with two piece vises: the table becomes the vise frame - part of the restraint force loop. Tighten the vise, the back jaw block and the fixed jaw tend to spread from the clamping force. This clamping force being above the table's neutral axis imparts a bending force to the table. The table, hunky as it is, is still elastic: it will deflect some small amount in response to the clamping force applied by the two piece vise.
Short parts, negligible problem but remember proportion. The longer the span, the greater the deflection in response to a given load (quantify by applying the relevant statics equations.) Long parts, if tightly clamped in a two piece vise, may deflect (rainbow) the table enough for it to become stiff in its operation. The deflection takes up the working clearance in the dovetails. The result of this deflection is end bearing between the table and table ways on the saddle. Operation in this mode leads to scrubbing, lube film failure, localized wear, and eventually, galling. Not a good thing.
Just sayin', a two piece vise is a very handy work holder (for vise-type parts too long for the go-to vise) but it has this one limitation. Use it when you have to but when you do, grip longer work gently.
Easily solved, you just bolt another milling table onto the top of the vise before clamping to center and share the load. ...huh? What do you mean you wanted to actually machine that piece of stock underneath there...? Jeez, some folks you just can't please...
You clearly did not get to the end of the video hahaha
@@KnowledgePerformance7 Sorry, I'm late to respond. I did watch the vid to the end. While Tony's excellent video covered all the bases including the "...potential to screw up your table..." he, glossed over the means by which the table could be "screwed up." Which I tried to remedy in far too many words.
I just about fell over when you came back with powdered sugar on your fingers 🤣🤣🤣 your humor has a direct line to my funny bone! I truly love watching your videos and as an added bonus I get to learn something in between the long pause breaks due to a need of recomposing myself from laughing so damn hard.
My Tasmanian friend has a massive vice on his Bridgeport. Its almost 10" wide. It's so heavy that even two of us can only just shift it. We use a chain hoist; plus an insert between the jaws to demount this monster.
The previous owner had to give it up; because it was too massive to lift under the British health and safety regulations.
The comedy quality of these videos just gets better. Good job tony
JulianTech5
Machinist grade
the s.u.b.s.c.r.i.b.e. joke had me laughing. nice work
He's got the Jedi Mind Tricks of Machinery.
Better, worse... In this case, same thing. I mean that. I love this channel. But it hurts my soul...
To no surprise, I could describe my wife's humor in the same terms.
I laughed, I cried, I was inspired, and moved.
I LOVE your videos!!!
Just the video I was waiting for. I've been wanting to build one of these for use on my cnc router. Not just because you can hold large work but also because of the lower profile. Great video as always! Thanks Tony!
New video Old Tony equals LIKE!
Should be taught at ANY engineering schools!
One of the most fundamental formulas out there.
Been on my list also. Have a nice one at work I use all the time👍.
Very useful. Thanks for sharing.
Steve Summers well fancy meeting you here Steve. I’d love to see you make one of these. Show old Tony that you don’t need special effects to get it done lol.
Gah! It's Steve!!! My dream UA-cam video would be you, ToT, and Abom collaborating on a project. Or just sitting together having a few beers, telling stories.
Awesome project!! I would think you may need a small hardened surface for the clamping screw to engage; a pressed in broken end mill or something. Thanks for the great content as always
As a beginning Toolmaker, its great to hear someone actually go into the finer details about the entire process instead of doing a time lapse with a cool music track, this helps out a lot of kids starting the trade, thank you for this.
It’s always a pleasure to see a TOT video in the queue. On another note, today I will be going to look at an old atlas 10f to buy as my first machine/shop toy. Thanks Tony for being an inspiration to me and a thousands others.
Yay, new video!
CARP! I knew who I was watching, and yet I foolishly decided to drink coffee at the same time. The mag-chuck song means I need a new cup of joe. And some paper towels.
I'm finally a bit smarter in my old age and try to wait until after the video to have my espresso. One of his Very Best including the donut dust on his fingers.
Very nicely done! I'll be interested to see how cuts with it come out. Often vices are made from ductile cast iron because it has vibration dampening properties which can yield better surface finish. Look forward to seeing how this works!
I was wondering why precision equipment like CNC’s is made from cast iron!
@@ericfranco7064 cast iron is also a production friendly material, inexpensive, easy to cast, easy to machine, has good properties for sliding joints.
well i just learned something, else, again...
@@DrewLSsix Yep the little nodule of carbon in cast iron help the sliding action.
It's cheap, so the parts can be cast pretty beefy, which give it rigidity and stability (temperature, vibration)
I'm glad that your videos take as long as they do. More very high-quality work, thanks for your content!
The editing style and humorous commentary are spot on! I know nothing of working with metal but I still enjoy this channel immensely!
I kinda want to make a "this old Tony out of context" video.
ToT, do you know the best tool to get a handle on all your bad habits?
_Vice_ grips
Wah Wah Waaaaahhhhh... :)
I would have said a mirror or camera lol but fair play.
ha ha see! cant smoke with your lips crushed shut!
Thank you for advancing the use of radians in the home shop builds! The struggle is real.
Amazing work! Thank you for showing this manufacturing job. The idea of this type of a portable vice opens up all kinds of new ideas, many of which would not be possible by utilising other types of holding devices, at least not without repetively interrupting work in order to change the hold down brackets. Cheers from Indonesia.
I think Ave started a vise club. Members only.
Tyler D.
Clever. You have to pots that on AvE's channel.
I see what you did there . . .lol
Instructions not clear. Dick caught in ceiling vice.
That is a vice club.
different type of vices, Ave has more hookers and blow
This was such an informative video. It was also more entertaining than a Canadian cutting open a box as fast as he can with a miniature chainsaw. That's a compliment btw, to you and the Canadian.😊
Nice job Tony.
I was excited to see a new video. You got me thinking about making one of those. I also liked seeing some surface grinder work as I just got one and am learning. Thank you.
Dear This Old Tony, having watched with enthusiasm since the first Vid you are unique, your combination of good humour and (dare I say) technical brilliance makes every Dear Old Tony Vid an unmissable event. Thank you so much for sharing your remarkable world with us. David
People often fail to recognize the importance of the 0th Law of Thermodynamics.
In case someone thinks it's not real:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeroth_law_of_thermodynamics
It's basically "If A=C and B=C then A=B" but with temperatures.
21mph12
Thats cold
Before thermodynamics, one must master thermostatics.
I thought it was spell 0nd....?
Of course its real. Did y'all miss WHY he said it? the two pairs of sides are the two systems to be in equilibrium, using the vice as the 3rd system. If both sides of your part are square to the grinding vise, they are square to each other.
Ooo's and aaaah's from me. Thanks!
Hey Tony really happy to see a new video been missing you here. To me you are one of the best channels on You Tube. I really love the way you present your subject matter. I know these videos must take a lot of time and thought to create I thank you very much for both. I just wish that I had the skills that you shown in your videos. Thanks !
This is an absolutly gorgeous looking piece of kit.
If I had you as a teacher in highschool, I may have actually gone into metalworking instead of IT.
I think I can say for most of us, keep up the good work and man you're just awesome This Old Tony.
I'm glad he wasn't my teacher in high school. He would've been a baby, well technically a junior high schooler. So yeah a baby. My millwright Grandpa and pre WW2 toolmaker Grandpa would never let live it down if I was learning from a baby. Plus I don't speak baby.
@@9HighFlyer9 Imagines seeing chunky baby arm/hands making a machining film. :D
Keep your uncle Tony in a vice ;) GREAT VIDEO BTW. Probably should get back to work before my boss notices.
If you want to keep your boss busy for a while just introduce him to Tony and Uncle Bumblefuck. When you hear the ambulance you'll know he used the hydraulic vise.
Dang! Your work is SO professional, it's making me feel like a real amateur!
Awesome project!
Exceptionally excellent video Mr. Tony. Well done, hats off to you sir.
My mag chuck brings all the boys to the yard, and they're like...
That was epic LOL
Bart Layman it’s stronger than yours
That one really made me lol
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Holy bent table, Batman!
I also have several vices, Tony. Love your show!
This is a useful piece of kit and at some point I may get around to making one to go with the clamping set, vice and low profile clamps I already have but none of that really matters as the humour in this video was justification enough for watching. Thank you so much. Your timing is immaculate. Very redolent of Zefrank.
I'm going to school for forensic machining. Starting tomorrow.
Mike O'Barr how is it going?
With the increasing popularity of these videos, I wonder if Tony has time or care to read or even browse through all the comments?. I feel like we are watching a new filmmaking "all-time-great" personality. Tony's handling of semiotics, editing, writing, acting, and comedic tenor are without equal. I have searched the youtube far and wide and not found anything quite similar.
I never get tired of the modesty, the down-to-earthness, and the humor, for me TOT just puts a smile on my face every time. This video in particular, this is such a breath of fresh air, I hate putting a giant vice on a mill just to hold a 6" piece of metal. I could never understand why that is such a typical setup.
I love how you can make all these great projects in 30 minutes or less.
Add base plates and toe clamps for more rigidity, if you are into that sort of thing.
yea yea "4 ft of snow" walking to the mill lol ----- i had to walk also in winter, 4 ft of snow, but NO shoes, NO socks, the milling cutters were so cold they were undersized for first 30 mins of milling. i can bet you are one of the "posh" kids in town :)) AAND i had to use one of nokias 6110 models to call someone at that time. ( dark ages, i can tell you that ) .... Well done, :) nice video, appreciate the work you put into your channel
Michael Schnock
We were so poor we had to turn the mill spindle by hand as we couldn't afford electricity - man i used to hate those 1/8 cutters - ever tried to turn a mill spindle at 1200rpm by hand ?
ian bertenshaw Yep , i can imagine .- its like fire drilling wthhout a bow . But at least you had warm hands :) while i was almost frozen to the ground AND to the mill handles :(. Lol ..
We had to go to the volcano to get warm AND WE LIVED IN A HOLE IN THE GROUND lol
No such thing as too many grinding fixtures. It is so much easier to learn something when you have a smile on your face - thank you!
Excellent work!... I've been thinking about making a pair of these for work! they would come in handy for the work I do in the shop!
2:03 "Unless you read the title to this video you're never gonna guess what my solution to this problem is."
You underestimate my forgetfullness, since i already don't know the title of the vid anymore while being only 2 mins into it.
TOT video? I click and don't bother reading the title.
14:55 that's some rick and morty true level shit.
Love your humor, been awhile since I have used a manual mill, these days I program 3 and 4 axis mills. Love the vids and look forward to them.
Another great video. Thanks Tony! Information and some fun all in one. Excellent.
I was checking TOT channel regularly for the past two weeks whether he's alive or not
Same.
Alright alright. I'm building one. You've made your point.
Hi, I watched your video a few days ago and found --- i must have one of these !. We made one and tested it out yesterday and it worked like a charm !!! thank you very much for showing us how to do. Way to go. I will be looking more of your videos as i have subscribed , ha ha !!!
Another knock out, Tony. You've thoroughly secured your spot in after dinner TV. My son has gone from watching this channel as a mesmerized toddler to asking questions at every turn and laughing at all the shenanigans. Also, your mag chuck man, I've been eyeing those things on ebay lately.
yaas! more grinding content
it's funny, I thought he was about to cover a whole other aspect of surface grinder idiosyncracies, but instead he covered the rock solid basics of squaring in relationship to this hallowed tool, much like you would in a textbook. I think I'm going to start using TOT videos as part of my teaching curriculum
Some channels need an "instant click" feature... this one, for example
why
Love your stuff. Beautiful job editing. I can’t get enough.
This is Tony, you and Ave are my favorite guys to watch. Please keep up the great work man!
I watched from start to finish...
And I don't even own a drill!
I hope you get more than just a drill.
@@hansbeamer5725 thank you kind sir, best wishes for you too.
So, "That Young Tony" wants to be a dentist. Scary! 😎
According to _This old wife,_ wouldn't it be _This old son?_
A very nice build. I love these precise vises. I have a precision machinist vise and its just nice to know that nothing will move on my CNC.
the 2-peice concept/idea is genius, it would make it very versatile
I'd have used a square end mill so the inside corners would be nice and sharp, less stress on the square grinding wheel (about time you posted another video)
Yeah, that'll work LOL
"making rash or reckless decisions on your lathe..."
#lathementality is what happens when you think you'll just "quickly turn" something on the vise and "eyeball" things and you end up exploding a cutter
or lots of stock for future projects.
I LOVE your videos! They are so refreshing, they just have everything I need from a video.
What an ingeniius way to cover up technical problems with the audio! Bravo, sir!
You seem to have a Dremel Bandit infestation in your shop.
Those things are impossible to get rid of once they move in. Only way is to burn the whole place down start fresh.
They tend to leave apprentice marks on everything. Better to find an angry beaver and let that roam the shop.
I've always told people, "I used to have a lot of good tools. Now I have sons....."
I once heard the term *destructo*
I usually watch everything in 1.5x speed, but I watched this in 1/2 speed to make it last longer
just watch it twice . . . same timing but you get to pick up all the jokes you missed first time around.
Ryan Guill you’re one sick man 😦
Hey, it's a necessity - I watch a lot of machinists on 1.5x - 2x too, just to get them to speak normally... not Tony though, for sure.
I just finished assembling 3 of these vices. Thanks for the great video! I made 2 to fit Bridge Ports (one at home, one at work) and one smaller version for my buddies Sieg x2d mill. I did heat treat the bases (4140 steel) though but not surface grind them. The jaw plates and movable jaw base were made from 4140 pre-HT. I love watching all your videos and the comedy is is a great interjection. Message me if you would like me to send you pictures of my clamps. Thanks!!
Yet another superbly elegant demonstration of prestidigitation.
I'm chilling on my couch in nothing but shorts, with a table ventilator cooling me down.
20:29 - how the hell did you know dude?!
Anyone else's heart stop at 12:08?!
that's what i was thinking too....
I definitely jumped when I saw that. Yikes.
i cringed and lol'd.. hope it's not too bad
The Lord gives you these fifteen . . . oy . . . TEN commandments to obey
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DarynFPV Scared the scrap out of me..
Tony, another masterpiece.
Great video, awesome project.
Why did I like this!!!???I'm a woodworker for gods sake!!!Could it be I'm a sucker for tools that make tools that make life easier?
I see someone has upped their editing game.
And quick question, is with your hands a good way of holding stock for milling?
Gee all these clever comments in the video and out of the video and all I can think of to say is that looks like it can come in very handy.
Me too.
You have a great way of explaining Tony, thanks.
TOT! Excellent video and as always very entertaining while being very informative!!! Thank you Sir!!!!
In my day we had to hold the raw stock by hand and we were happy for it. It was a great step up from putting the stock down and spinning the end mill by hand. You youngsters are going soft.
Good one "Olivia"
@@olivialambert4124 Hey "Olivia," while I got you here, can you tell me how you choose which profile pictures to steal? Specifically, how did you decide on this one?
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I'm genuinely curious.
I wish I could subscribe twice!
I wish there were ten tonys
I volunteer to join the TOT channel production crew
u put so much work into editing and preparation etc.... Thanks a lot for everything
The way you describe machinist going to the mfg offices is the most accurate description I've heard yet!