I can't overstate how happy it makes me to get to see another TOT video released. It could literally be watching paint dry, but if TOT was narrating, it would be solid gold!
I don't own a single power tool and I'm, somehow, still hooked. The intricacies of fabricating and maintaining esoteric tools I'll never own made fascinating.
@meihem76 I literally have a 3D printer that I recently purchased sitting on my dining room table (much to the wife's dismay) printing out something, and it's all because of This Old Tony.
I'm not a machinist at all, but I love coming home from a night of work, sitting down with an adult beverage, and watching Tony work on problems I never knew existed.
TOT unironically inspired me to become a machinist, when i was nearing the end of high-school i had no idea what i wanted to do with my life and i found this channel around the same time, the rest is history. Went to trade school, got my theoretical qualification and now I'm on my way to getting certified, i love what i do, thank you for the inspiration you've been in my life❤
Thank you for sharing, us older folks are tickled pink to hear of a successful transition to adulthood. Keep it up and you too will tell them damn kids to "get off your lawn", because you have a home with a lawn and you will be proud of it, and sick of those lazy no good kids no a days just don't respect their elders, what was I talking about?
When something looks easy to cut “on paper” but then wreaks havoc on your tools, I’ve found clamping the part with a sheet of ordinary office paper under them helps. Helps keep em on paper. Just make sure to match the paper (metric/imperial) with the work, otherwise you get a rounding error from the mismatching units and your work may fall through the cracks into another dimension somewhere between theory and reality. And the guys over there are getting real tired of big chunks of toolsteel being dropped down on their heads, you don’t want to anger them further or Lord knows what they’ll start hurling back at us through that portal.
@@CleoKawisha-sy5xt I take it you're one of those inter-dimensional half-real people? An honest lawyer, a generous banker, an overpaid machinist perhaps? yeah, sorry about that one time in May… not going to happen again. An interdimensional pinkypromise.
My grandpa told me when working in Ferrari from 1972 to 1980 as machinist they were wearing paper in their shoes as everything was easier on the paper.
I 've milled a couple of thousand similar plates using edge clamps making investment casting molds. The clamps were used for roughing down to 20 thou larger . Then I switched to double sided tape and nothing else. Only a couple came a bit loose in 30 years or so. They always indicated dead flat. The mill was a MAHO.
Clicking the bell and seeing a TOT video notification is like a winning scratch off lottery ticket. Hands down my absolute favorite UA-cam channel. Perfection on every level. 👌
I’ve been watching your videos for so long, and always wanting to be able to build things like you. I started doing welding/fabrication with your videos and other similar creators influencing me. Now I’m going to college for CAD, and using solidworks a lot. Seeing you using solidworks too, makes me feel like I’m on the right path. Thank you for giving me inspiration!
Tony - so great to see another video from you. Those are the lowest-profile hold-down clamps I've ever seen, and they seem to work exceptionally well! Thanks for another very educational and entertaining video.
Thank you Tony. For years I've been milling away using various bits and bobs in the T slots and can now happily machine away knowing they are Tony slots!!! Life is great again. Heal up soon buddy!!!
We need more people with Tony's sense of play. Can you imagine him as a shop teacher. He could single handedly bring industrial arts back into the school curriculum. What a rock star. Love ya Tony!
"Industrial arts," that takes me back. I had a shop teacher who loved the craft but had no idea how to manage twenty ruffians getting dropped on him. Every day was chaos and it's only by the grace of God that nobody got killed.
I had an English teacher that had that same wit and sophisticated sense of humor. Only a few of us got it. He made the class worth attending.Thx Mr. Black
I'm not a machinist or a welder, and never thought about it due to the lack of skills required. I stumbled across your channel and that has made all the difference. I have many other subscriptions that match my interests and hobby, but yours is the first that I will play due to your humour and fun way of teaching (yes, I'm surprised as much are you that this old dog can learn something new) Thank you Old Tony for putting out such entertaining work. I've been blessed and feel like a miner that discovered a vein of gold in the mountain of videos
This channel is what interested me in the idea of home machining. I still don’t have any tools, but I live vicariously through TOT and some blonde girl in Canadia making a choo choo.
@@dominictramonte2687 Canada is where she moved back to be near her dad. She was living in the US, but is now in her big garage making the train engine.
You could join a local makers space. I want a custom rack shelf, which is really just a bent piece of aluminum with funny holes. The best way of getting it is making that myself. I'm sure if you looked around you'll find problems that you could solve if only you had access to tools to make it.
@@NicholasMarshall finding projects is not hard, I have a brain full. I need machines and tools, but most importantly, I need time to do it. I’m hoping for a career change soon that will afford me more free time without too much of a pay cut, and then I’ll have the time. I want to get a machine shop from Sherline and start working my way to making clocks and small engines.
I have a design for edge clamps that's been sitting in my incomplete design folder in Fusion for like two years. I had a few issues to work out but life happened and I had forgotten about them until now. You've reignited the spark. I'm gonna wrap these up. Maybe I can send you some when the design is sound. Coincidentally, they're designed to be super low.
When I saw the design, the first thing I asked in my head was, "What is going to stop the hold-down screw from just sliding away from the part?" I dismissed the concern figuring that TOT must know what he was doing. I literally laughed out loud when they did exactly what I thought they'd do. Thanks for posting anyway!
Former tool & die designer here. Nice design. My go to catalog was always Carr-Lane. They have the most comprehensive collection of work-holding devices of all.
Around here, weedwhacker dermatitis is generally caused by finding wild parsnips in your weeds. In other areas, i guess giant hogweed is a major concern. The issue is with Phytophotodermatitis which is where the sap of the plant can cause your skin to be sensitive to UV light and you get a really bad sunburn sometimes with blisters and pain type rash. But i bring this up because your local country or state would have some information on these plants in your area (if any) so you can know what they look like. Then if you notice them, you can take steps to cover your skin from sunlight, wash the sap off, and so on.
Both Hogweed and Wild Parsnip are invasive in North America. Since they're always spreading to new areas, there is always a new group of people who have never had to worry about it before with toxic weeds suddenly showing up.
On my top 3 list of favorite youtube channels Tony. The amount I learn from each video... just blows my mind how much there is to machining. Especially for a serious neophyte like me. Love the content. You are a gifted educator and that's coming from a professional educator.
Now we just need videos for head, shoulders, and knee clamps and the -song- series will be nearly complete. Visit your local piercing shop for eyes, ears, mouth, and nose clamps.
Oh man, I saw that coming. But I love that you shared all of your process up to and through the point of realizing the x-axis reference stop wasn't established. Nice recovery, and pretty much what any integrated design would do in any case. Thanks for sharing! You got mad vid skilz!
Tony - I love your videos! They take me back to my CNC setup days. I still miss the smell of that yummy green tapping fluid.. You and ABOM79 got me through the pandemic without loosing my mind : ) Thanks!
I love that you’re back and I watched the whole video even tho I traded my mitee bites for the painters tape and super glue trick and never looked back. I’ve even started super gluing soft jaws to the vise. I’ve gone mad I tell ya! I super glued a follower rest to my lathe carriage. I superglued the dro bracket to the cross slide instead of taking everything apart and tapping it. I thought I was doing it "just to get going real quick on these parts, I’ll do it right later" but then I just never did. It’s been like a year.
I'm SSOOOOO excited! There's almost nothing better than seeing a "This Old Tony" video in my feed. Thanks, This Old Tony, keep up the great work buddy.
Always a bright spot in my day to see TOT has a new vid. Thanks Tony! (great editing choice on limiting the back pain graphic. I could still see and feel it every time the machine groaned. Brilliant!)
Love your videos! I appreciate the fine, sophisticated and yet simple humor. Very educating and thorough content. I'd love to see another welding video.
Tony! Your channel was the first thing I started watching in English. I love that with each new video I get more and more of your jokes and giggles. I can't express how grateful I am to you, and I'm more than happy that you keep dropping these great videos.
This was very informative, instructional and entertaining. That is the way it is when TOT drops a video on the Internet. Thank you very much for all of the efforts you make to share your genius with us. You are well appreciated.
I was watching your video Homemade Boringhead trying to get my This Old Tony fix and was feeling "ok" and right after I finished watching it this video came out and now I'm feeling AMAZING. Thank you for all your hard work making these videos. Can't wait to see what you say about the new welder. I bought the last HTP welder you had and love it.
Aww right on! Great video. I actually love that they didn't fully work as intended. This just means a follow up video 😊. That and it shows not everything is going to be perfect but it's how you deal with it. Great job TOT, keep it coming.
Thanks TOT to bring us the Tony's slot. It is very usefull and I used it without knowing it was your invention. We should all be grateful for your genius and your generosity to us. 😊 I love your videos and hope for more (machining, welding, gardening, as you want, I dont care I like them all).
Entertaining and educational all in one. Another great TOT video. Plus answers to unasked questions, like what does the T-slot stand for? Oh yeah, the Tony Slot. Thanks TOT!
There are no other yuotubers than Tony that can go AWAL for up to six months and not lose subs. And even better when a video turns up we all go: We have been given such a precious and wonderful gift! Cheers mate, all the best. 🍻❤
Woohoo! How about a flat spot on the pin, to give a greater surface area against the T slot, that means they will need to rotate slightly, but I don’t think they need to be too loose. Also, something as simple as a washer under the clamps to raise them off the bottom might fix the problem of the lost lobe. 👍
I was thinking of putting wings on the back end that pivot. The tail would have to be thicker. but that doesn't seem to be much of a compromise. Round the end of the screw too.
Yep... using a D pin with the flat facing upward would help it seat against the bottom of the T slot. But I think that problem would go out the window if these clamps had integrated T nuts.
I was wondering why we didn't clamp up to a washer on top of the T. It would have locked the toe clamp to the top surface instead of sliding through the gap at the bottom of the slot. But the washer probably wouldn't be as happy with the rocking motion. So maybe it's daft.
Can’t say I’m surprised that ToT is still doing ToT things just like always. One of the few constants I can love to rely on no matter how long between uploads. Gotta go through and rewatch some old videos now for funsies
I never get tired of watching you do things I can't do and will never even try. Everyone has their squick thang. For some it is smell, others can't deal with descriptions or images, but the squick makes the skin crawl. Mine happens to be those little metal chips that fly hither and yon when you are machining metal. My mind is convinced that each and every one has a mission to get in my eye. You give me a safe and chip free way to enjoy the incredible world of metal fabrication - in enriches my understanding of engineering even though you are generating thousands of little Hellraiser Pinheads that want to make a play date with my corneas. Please keep on posting...from where you are, way over there.
Nice to see you around !. You produce wierd thoughts on people !. The other day I was just thinking about buying a lathe, a milling machine, a tangencial grinder, etc. I love machining. I love your videos. I love to learn from one of the greatest teacher I had (I have like 10 maybe ? One better than the other, but all of them together would have made of me the best alumni ever existed !) All in all. Ok. You are Great !. Love to see you !. Already waiting for the next one !. Love from Argentina. Pablo. :)
That was really cool. Like the narration too. I used to use a set of plate dogs (similar idea to these, that's just what we called them) for milling up sets of top and bottom plates for notching dies. There were very handy. I didn't think they'd have that problem either. Maybe with that ventral bump they mght have locked in sooner?
I would love a 2.0 video! This is certainly going in the sketch book of tools I'll never have time to make. Oh and you killed me at the beginning with the milling reenactment.
Tony, every time you relese a new video, I'm happy like a little kid in front of his favorite cartoon. Glad to have you back! By the way, good news you work on welding video. In fact I discovered your channel by searching for TIG ones, and never left after.
Got to love the discreetly hidden in plain sight ‘Subscribe’ that our friend Tony spent time on placing for our non subscribed friends 😂 Awesome as always Tone. Thanks mate for another great vid and good to have you back… again! 😉
Had to watch again to find it... was just about ready for a new thing to lay awake at night thinking about, now that the clamping riddle's been answered. Thanks for the reminder. I'm getting sleep tonight! Cheers
Not to speak badly of any of Tony’s other videos (they can hear me), but this feels like such a return to form. I’ve watched some of your older videos more times than I should freely admit, and this one is right at home with them. Hope your skin doesn’t bother you. Chicks dig scars.
Great to see another video! How about a couple of rectangular pieces on either side of the clamp, that slide in the "T", with a slip fit hole for the pin. That way it will spread the clamping force in the slot and it might provide enough friction to bind it up when you tighten the allen bolt.
I wondered if reinstating the belly fin would maybe achieve the same result. A packer underneath could be tried first and if it worked, separate fins could be TIGged on
It seems once again you brighten another dreadful day with me getting home and I see a "This Old Tony" video, bless your cotton socks, you made my day better.
For version 2.0, I think you should make the pin DOUBLE the height of the T-Slot, then cut a flat half way through the pin. You'll need to allow the pin to pivot in the bore. This will give the pin a large bearing surface instead of point (actually line) contact on the under side of the T-Slot. Also, I think you'll still need the backup bolt, so I think you should re-design it to make the backup bolt somewhat integral to the design. Fun idea and fun shop project!
I was thinking of all complicated ways to avoid the line contact… maybe not double, but this is a good solution. To get fancy since the press fit goes away he could slit the bottom and put a tiny pin in there to prevent axial movement when it’s not in the slot. When I bought my used mill I had to file the bottoms of most of my t slots because the cast t nuts that had been used in them had fillets to the stem of the t which line loaded the edge of the slots raising the metal there just enough to jam stuff up. So I kind of think a solution like this really is needed.
Changing the shape of the pin would be a good idea, BUT integrating it to the clamp would be a mistake IMO. A slot through the clamp to allow for threading a bolt through the pin, to act as a T nut/stopper, then articulating the clamp to engage the material would be the solution IMO. It may need to be bigger also. Something more like 5/16" above the table would be about where I would want to be. The face of the clamp could also be knurled if it had more surface area, instead of aggressively biting into the material with the current design, though it seems to grab very well.
I once made L shaped stands/stoppers for wedge clamps for a similar problem. Maybe it was a me-problem, but I just couldn't get it tight enough parallel to t-slot with 1 bolt to stop the wedge clamp from moving it. To be fair, I could've just not clamp it that hard and lower the speed and feed instead, but that just would not have been fun at all! If my memory serves, I think I ended up just tack welding rest of the flanges to couple of scrap plates that had bolt holes in them 😄
Great video Tony i just scored a 30 horse phase converter at an auction i look forward to finally getting to use all the knowledge i have learned from all you great guys. As you mentioned these were hard to hold in the vice i think you and the masters of the metal UA-cam universe need to get together and make a collaboration video making a fractal vice that would be awesome
Try moving the dowel to the other hole closer to the bolt to change the pivot point. You could also remake that but make the arm part three times as long. (I'm just doing this in my head but I'm sure there's a mathematical formula in "the little green machinist Bible" where are you could figure out the optimal pivot point.)
It's a fun little statics problem. The workpiece and the Tony slot provide only perpendicular reaction forces - the workpiece along the X axis and the Tony slot along the Z axis. The only other force acting on the clamp is the screw, which provides a force pretty much only along the Z axis. That means the only thing stopping the clamp from sliding away from the work, i.e. the only forces opposing the reaction force from the workpiece in the X axis, are the small friction forces generated by the pin on the Tony slot and the screw along the bottom. Moving the pivot location can change the rotational equilibrium of forces, but that doesn't solve the X axis equilibrium. I don't think that friction is ultimately enough to balance the X axis forces. The best solution I could think of is to do what Tony already did, which is add a stationary clamp to take up those forces. However, instead of just butting the body of the rotational clamp against that stationary clamp, the screw could be placed at an angle to generate both X and Z components to its force, and even interface with a pocket on the stationary clamp to prevent marring the bottom of the Tony slot. Finally, the location of the pivot point could be adjusted as close as possible to the clamp face (i.e. as close to the part as possible) to create mechanical advantage between the clamping force and screw force. Moving the dowel closer to the bolt, as you described, would actually do the opposite.
@@Kavurcen That's actually a good point. Like I said I was trying to picture all of this in my head. It almost be better if the bolt was underneath the work piece and you tightened it with like an allen wrench so you can get up underneath there.
Lovely work as usual! However, it is the lack of the "bellys" that make the clamps creep up too much. The downward force of the screws makes the middle of the clamps press down (not as you stated in the video) and the bellys would have stopped the jaws getting too deep into the grooves!
Great idea, the first thing I thought when you introduced the profile was that they were going to fail when biting, not because I'm a genius, but because I tried something similar and failed miserably too. I didn't had the brains to back the clamps up, I just machined a longer arm and bigger floating pin with a flat end to "bite" under the T slot.
When I started to watch you I was just out of highschool, now I'm an engineer and a welder. I will hopefully become an Old Diego in the future, thanks to you.
The shop I work at had a mill that sounded kind of like that when moving in X ended up being the lead screw nut being worn out, might not be the problem but worth a look.
Just when the world needed him the most, he came back.
Where was Tony when the Westfold fell?
😂😂😂
@@flargenzmaking toe clamps
I was beginning to worry.
But how do I get my shoes on?, maybe you need to show us that shoe horn/ ? thingy? and explain it more bettered.
I can't overstate how happy it makes me to get to see another TOT video released. It could literally be watching paint dry, but if TOT was narrating, it would be solid gold!
HA! Maybe we should ask him to narrate paint drying. I think there would be an audience for it. Me front center.
@@fonzireyes I'd watch it for sure...as long as he was moving his hands around to illustrate his point. 😆
I don't own a single power tool and I'm, somehow, still hooked. The intricacies of fabricating and maintaining esoteric tools I'll never own made fascinating.
@meihem76 I literally have a 3D printer that I recently purchased sitting on my dining room table (much to the wife's dismay) printing out something, and it's all because of This Old Tony.
Maybe we can talk TOT into doing a paint drying video, with sparkles for excitement. Then do a grass growing video and cut it with a fly cutter! 😆
I'm not a machinist at all, but I love coming home from a night of work, sitting down with an adult beverage, and watching Tony work on problems I never knew existed.
Then you will like @CuttingEdgeEngineering less talking more working
@@paewaikingi5919the talking is the best part! Getting rid of it is like throwing away the top of a muffin and just eating the stump.
@@paewaikingi5919 I've got plenty of "all work no talk" channels to watch. Those lack Tony's dry wit.
I had an adult beverage once.
Let me tell you, a beer that's been in the back of the fridge for 18 years ain't worth drinking! 🤮
I've actually had this problem at work. I don't feel like buying toe clamps so I'll make them when the boss is on vacation 😅
TOT unironically inspired me to become a machinist, when i was nearing the end of high-school i had no idea what i wanted to do with my life and i found this channel around the same time, the rest is history. Went to trade school, got my theoretical qualification and now I'm on my way to getting certified, i love what i do, thank you for the inspiration you've been in my life❤
Thank you for sharing, us older folks are tickled pink to hear of a successful transition to adulthood. Keep it up and you too will tell them damn kids to "get off your lawn", because you have a home with a lawn and you will be proud of it, and sick of those lazy no good kids no a days just don't respect their elders, what was I talking about?
I'm currently in trade school for machining much in part due to channels like TOT
When something looks easy to cut “on paper” but then wreaks havoc on your tools, I’ve found clamping the part with a sheet of ordinary office paper under them helps. Helps keep em on paper. Just make sure to match the paper (metric/imperial) with the work, otherwise you get a rounding error from the mismatching units and your work may fall through the cracks into another dimension somewhere between theory and reality. And the guys over there are getting real tired of big chunks of toolsteel being dropped down on their heads, you don’t want to anger them further or Lord knows what they’ll start hurling back at us through that portal.
wtf
@@CleoKawisha-sy5xt I take it you're one of those inter-dimensional half-real people? An honest lawyer, a generous banker, an overpaid machinist perhaps?
yeah, sorry about that one time in May… not going to happen again. An interdimensional pinkypromise.
i really hate stupid fuc ed up comments like this. Where does joke start and stop. head hurts...
My grandpa told me when working in Ferrari from 1972 to 1980 as machinist they were wearing paper in their shoes as everything was easier on the paper.
I 've milled a couple of thousand similar plates using edge clamps making investment casting molds. The clamps were used for roughing down to 20 thou larger . Then I switched to double sided tape and nothing else. Only a couple came a bit loose in 30 years or so. They always indicated dead flat. The mill was a MAHO.
That 3m double sided tape is an absolute lifesaver sometimes,
yeah dude! or tape both faces then superglue
@@handdancin That's a classic wood working trick, I've never seen it tried with machining though!
@@inthefade It gets used a ton for large flat parts that are thin, great for sheet metal work or if you are like Clickspring making wheels and gears
Also learned about double sided take from a woodworker! Pretty amazing until the cooling fluid gets to it
No one does UA-cam vids like This Ole Tony. One of a kind. Thank you sir!
Clicking the bell and seeing a TOT video notification is like a winning scratch off lottery ticket.
Hands down my absolute favorite UA-cam channel. Perfection on every level. 👌
I've been bingewatching this channel for two weeks now(instead of studying for theoretical mechanics exam), and now Im rewarded with a new video.
Probably a good use of your time... Or at the very LEAST, a far less bad one than possible lol.
Thank you for summoning him.
You might like AVE. Similar to TOT. Machining, tool reviews, life lessons and very funny. There is an online dictionary of AVE words if you get lost.
He knew and he rewarded us all.
@@jeffnarum1373 chooch.
It's an excellent day when this old Tony gives us a new video!
It’s an excellent year when This Old Tony gives us a new video!
@@bergamtI appreciate your insightful and unique perspective on this subject.
Affirm!
“Maybe I accidentally bought an UNfinishing end mill” 😂😂😂😂 that was hilarious. So much packed into a TOT video.
I’ve been watching your videos for so long, and always wanting to be able to build things like you. I started doing welding/fabrication with your videos and other similar creators influencing me. Now I’m going to college for CAD, and using solidworks a lot. Seeing you using solidworks too, makes me feel like I’m on the right path. Thank you for giving me inspiration!
Tony - so great to see another video from you. Those are the lowest-profile hold-down clamps I've ever seen, and they seem to work exceptionally well! Thanks for another very educational and entertaining video.
Hi Ron. I hope all is well with you.
Then you will like @CuttingEdgeEngineering less talking more working
@@paewaikingi5919 talking is the charm. If I want to watch all doing I'd watch Andrew camarata or HandToolRescue
@@paewaikingi5919but the bloopers at the end are awesome 😂
@@paewaikingi5919but the talking is why I'm here
Thank you Tony. For years I've been milling away using various bits and bobs in the T slots and can now happily machine away knowing they are Tony slots!!! Life is great again. Heal up soon buddy!!!
Some of those bits and bobs are probably Tony nuts.
@@dominicread797 Tony nuts in the Tony slot??? That's tool incest!!!!!
We need more people with Tony's sense of play. Can you imagine him as a shop teacher. He could single handedly bring industrial arts back into the school curriculum. What a rock star. Love ya Tony!
"Industrial arts," that takes me back. I had a shop teacher who loved the craft but had no idea how to manage twenty ruffians getting dropped on him. Every day was chaos and it's only by the grace of God that nobody got killed.
I had an English teacher that had that same wit and sophisticated sense of humor. Only a few of us got it. He made the class worth attending.Thx Mr. Black
I'm not a machinist or a welder, and never thought about it due to the lack of skills required. I stumbled across your channel and that has made all the difference. I have many other subscriptions that match my interests and hobby, but yours is the first that I will play due to your humour and fun way of teaching (yes, I'm surprised as much are you that this old dog can learn something new)
Thank you Old Tony for putting out such entertaining work. I've been blessed and feel like a miner that discovered a vein of gold in the mountain of videos
Thanks CDN'! I really appreciate that. Glad you're enjoying them.
This channel is what interested me in the idea of home machining.
I still don’t have any tools, but I live vicariously through TOT and some blonde girl in Canadia making a choo choo.
She's not in Canada anymore-- her dad got sick and she moved to take care of him-- but I know whom you're talking about.
@@dominictramonte2687 Canada is where she moved back to be near her dad. She was living in the US, but is now in her big garage making the train engine.
www.youtube.com/@Blondihacks
You could join a local makers space.
I want a custom rack shelf, which is really just a bent piece of aluminum with funny holes. The best way of getting it is making that myself.
I'm sure if you looked around you'll find problems that you could solve if only you had access to tools to make it.
@@NicholasMarshall finding projects is not hard, I have a brain full. I need machines and tools, but most importantly, I need time to do it.
I’m hoping for a career change soon that will afford me more free time without too much of a pay cut, and then I’ll have the time. I want to get a machine shop from Sherline and start working my way to making clocks and small engines.
I have a design for edge clamps that's been sitting in my incomplete design folder in Fusion for like two years. I had a few issues to work out but life happened and I had forgotten about them until now. You've reignited the spark. I'm gonna wrap these up. Maybe I can send you some when the design is sound. Coincidentally, they're designed to be super low.
That half mm equivalent mention near the end was very greatly appreciated. Thank you.
When I saw the design, the first thing I asked in my head was, "What is going to stop the hold-down screw from just sliding away from the part?" I dismissed the concern figuring that TOT must know what he was doing. I literally laughed out loud when they did exactly what I thought they'd do. Thanks for posting anyway!
Love when I get This Old Tony notifications! Keep up the good work!
Honestly feel I wait my whole time on the internet waiting for another TOT video to land ... always worth the wait
Former tool & die designer here. Nice design. My go to catalog was always Carr-Lane. They have the most comprehensive collection of work-holding devices of all.
Why am I glued to these channels ? I didn’t even take metal shop in school, let alone any machining experience.
Around here, weedwhacker dermatitis is generally caused by finding wild parsnips in your weeds.
In other areas, i guess giant hogweed is a major concern. The issue is with Phytophotodermatitis which is where the sap of the plant can cause your skin to be sensitive to UV light and you get a really bad sunburn sometimes with blisters and pain type rash.
But i bring this up because your local country or state would have some information on these plants in your area (if any) so you can know what they look like. Then if you notice them, you can take steps to cover your skin from sunlight, wash the sap off, and so on.
I'm guessing long sleeve shirts and gloves will be in Tony's weed whacking future.
Hogsweed is what we have on my side of the pond, it's annoying but I haven't gotten any scars
@@eoinkenny3188 I remember a kid at primary school made a pea-shooter out of hogweed. He looked like a botox disaster for about a fortnight!
@@eoinkenny3188 it may not affect everyone the same way, just like not everyone gets hayfever symptoms. Also reactions may change at some point.
Both Hogweed and Wild Parsnip are invasive in North America. Since they're always spreading to new areas, there is always a new group of people who have never had to worry about it before with toxic weeds suddenly showing up.
Im not whos more excited. Me about a T.O.T video or my dog when i come home from work
Tony has to be one of the most entertaining, clever and funny guys I keep coming back to watch. Truely excellent production. 🙈🙉🙊
On my top 3 list of favorite youtube channels Tony. The amount I learn from each video... just blows my mind how much there is to machining. Especially for a serious neophyte like me. Love the content. You are a gifted educator and that's coming from a professional educator.
ToT, I've been having a rough time lately. Your videos bring me so much joy. Thank you for continuing to make videos!
Hey bud, hoping your situation improves soon. Signed, another rough-time-haver. 🫡
me three.
Keep your head up sir. Wishing you the best.
Now we just need videos for head, shoulders, and knee clamps and the -song- series will be nearly complete.
Visit your local piercing shop for eyes, ears, mouth, and nose clamps.
Technically your mouth is a manual clamp. 🤔
Oh man, I saw that coming. But I love that you shared all of your process up to and through the point of realizing the x-axis reference stop wasn't established. Nice recovery, and pretty much what any integrated design would do in any case. Thanks for sharing! You got mad vid skilz!
Tony - I love your videos! They take me back to my CNC setup days. I still miss the smell of that yummy green tapping fluid.. You and ABOM79 got me through the pandemic without loosing my mind : ) Thanks!
I love that you’re back and I watched the whole video even tho I traded my mitee bites for the painters tape and super glue trick and never looked back. I’ve even started super gluing soft jaws to the vise. I’ve gone mad I tell ya! I super glued a follower rest to my lathe carriage. I superglued the dro bracket to the cross slide instead of taking everything apart and tapping it. I thought I was doing it "just to get going real quick on these parts, I’ll do it right later" but then I just never did. It’s been like a year.
Few repairs are as permanent as a temporary solution that works well enough.
😊if I have a dollar for every I will do it better later…I’d be a very rich guy 😂
You just made my day Tony!!
Tony I love it man, keep up the amazing work. Every video screams quality, and I'm always looking forward to what you're up to next!
The issue with your z-axis noise is that your mill has somehow gotten a hold of one of those cans that, when flipped end over end, goes "mooooooo"
I'm SSOOOOO excited! There's almost nothing better than seeing a "This Old Tony" video in my feed. Thanks, This Old Tony, keep up the great work buddy.
Always a bright spot in my day to see TOT has a new vid. Thanks Tony! (great editing choice on limiting the back pain graphic. I could still see and feel it every time the machine groaned. Brilliant!)
Love your videos! I appreciate the fine, sophisticated and yet simple humor.
Very educating and thorough content.
I'd love to see another welding video.
Tony! Your channel was the first thing I started watching in English. I love that with each new video I get more and more of your jokes and giggles. I can't express how grateful I am to you, and I'm more than happy that you keep dropping these great videos.
Thanks Astro!
I cant explain how excited i get when i see TOT in my feed. Any time i feel down i binge watch this channel. Keep up the amazing work sir. ❤
Nothing stops me furiously refreshing UA-cam for fresh good content more than a tot video! Love ya!
This channel always brightens my day thanks for the humor and the KNOWLEDGE!
I love the comedic genius of those beautiful hands, even tho I know nothing of machining! It's funny and fascinating! Can't wait for the next video
I am always pleased when you post a new video, this was another informative and entertaining video. Thank you Tony.
This was very informative, instructional and entertaining. That is the way it is when TOT drops a video on the Internet. Thank you very much for all of the efforts you make to share your genius with us. You are well appreciated.
Enjoy your videos. They bring me back in time.
TOT is one of my favorite channels! Thanks for the new video.😊❤
Something to watch on the drive home, thanks ToT!
Ideally as a passenger not behind the wheel.
@@jackn4853If he's in the HOV lane it's allowed.
So happy to have a new video! Very cool clamps! I have had to back up similar “store bought” clamps. Sometimes we just need backup!
I was watching your video Homemade Boringhead trying to get my This Old Tony fix and was feeling "ok" and right after I finished watching it this video came out and now I'm feeling AMAZING. Thank you for all your hard work making these videos. Can't wait to see what you say about the new welder. I bought the last HTP welder you had and love it.
great to see you after so long, as a fellow TIG welder I cannot wait to see the new machine you mentioned.
It’s awesome when ToT uploads its like a free holiday.
Aww right on! Great video. I actually love that they didn't fully work as intended. This just means a follow up video 😊. That and it shows not everything is going to be perfect but it's how you deal with it. Great job TOT, keep it coming.
I love your creativity and humor!
Thanks TOT to bring us the Tony's slot. It is very usefull and I used it without knowing it was your invention. We should all be grateful for your genius and your generosity to us. 😊 I love your videos and hope for more (machining, welding, gardening, as you want, I dont care I like them all).
TOT is back ! It's the promise of some fun and pure intelligence. Thanks in advance.
Entertaining and educational all in one. Another great TOT video. Plus answers to unasked questions, like what does the T-slot stand for? Oh yeah, the Tony Slot. Thanks TOT!
There are no other yuotubers than Tony that can go AWAL for up to six months and not lose subs.
And even better when a video turns up we all go:
We have been given such a precious and wonderful gift!
Cheers mate, all the best. 🍻❤
My son and I love watching your videos. I am so glad that you are still able to make them. 💖 Our very best wishes to you and your family.💖
This is my favourite type of ToT video. Lovely stuff, cheers!
Woohoo! How about a flat spot on the pin, to give a greater surface area against the T slot, that means they will need to rotate slightly, but I don’t think they need to be too loose. Also, something as simple as a washer under the clamps to raise them off the bottom might fix the problem of the lost lobe. 👍
I was thinking of putting wings on the back end that pivot. The tail would have to be thicker. but that doesn't seem to be much of a compromise. Round the end of the screw too.
Yep... using a D pin with the flat facing upward would help it seat against the bottom of the T slot.
But I think that problem would go out the window if these clamps had integrated T nuts.
A second clamp screw right behind the pin might work.
I was wondering why we didn't clamp up to a washer on top of the T. It would have locked the toe clamp to the top surface instead of sliding through the gap at the bottom of the slot.
But the washer probably wouldn't be as happy with the rocking motion. So maybe it's daft.
@@glenmcgillivray4707 can't quite picture that?
In medieval times, toe clamps, as applied by the holy inquisition, were a whole different animal altogether.
Can’t say I’m surprised that ToT is still doing ToT things just like always. One of the few constants I can love to rely on no matter how long between uploads. Gotta go through and rewatch some old videos now for funsies
I never get tired of watching you do things I can't do and will never even try. Everyone has their squick thang. For some it is smell, others can't deal with descriptions or images, but the squick makes the skin crawl. Mine happens to be those little metal chips that fly hither and yon when you are machining metal. My mind is convinced that each and every one has a mission to get in my eye. You give me a safe and chip free way to enjoy the incredible world of metal fabrication - in enriches my understanding of engineering even though you are generating thousands of little Hellraiser Pinheads that want to make a play date with my corneas. Please keep on posting...from where you are, way over there.
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So infinitely happy you are back in my feed. I don't care how linear the contact with your T-slots is!!!
It’s always such a great surprise when a TOT video drops!
Nice to see you around !. You produce wierd thoughts on people !. The other day I was just thinking about buying a lathe, a milling machine, a tangencial grinder, etc.
I love machining. I love your videos. I love to learn from one of the greatest teacher I had (I have like 10 maybe ? One better than the other, but all of them together would have made of me the best alumni ever existed !) All in all. Ok. You are Great !.
Love to see you !.
Already waiting for the next one !.
Love from Argentina. Pablo. :)
That was really cool. Like the narration too. I used to use a set of plate dogs (similar idea to these, that's just what we called them) for milling up sets of top and bottom plates for notching dies. There were very handy.
I didn't think they'd have that problem either. Maybe with that ventral bump they mght have locked in sooner?
I would love a 2.0 video!
This is certainly going in the sketch book of tools I'll never have time to make.
Oh and you killed me at the beginning with the milling reenactment.
Just to say how happy I am to see another video from TOT. Thanks. Guess you have a very large online family. I am glad to be one of them.
Tony, every time you relese a new video, I'm happy like a little kid in front of his favorite cartoon. Glad to have you back!
By the way, good news you work on welding video. In fact I discovered your channel by searching for TIG ones, and never left after.
Looking forward to watching the second version video!
Missed your sense of humour, Tony ♥ glad you're back!
Always lovely to dig into a new epic episode of This Old Tony.
Got to love the discreetly hidden in plain sight ‘Subscribe’ that our friend Tony spent time on placing for our non subscribed friends 😂
Awesome as always Tone. Thanks mate for another great vid and good to have you back… again! 😉
Had to watch again to find it... was just about ready for a new thing to lay awake at night thinking about, now that the clamping riddle's been answered. Thanks for the reminder. I'm getting sleep tonight! Cheers
@@Gamerock82 I've found at least two, how many did you see?
damn, I missed it this time. Will rewatch
Damn^2 missed it the second time I watched it… where is it? Time stamp please :)
No need for time stamp. Found it! It is in the solid works part where ToT cads the cramp.
Not to speak badly of any of Tony’s other videos (they can hear me), but this feels like such a return to form. I’ve watched some of your older videos more times than I should freely admit, and this one is right at home with them.
Hope your skin doesn’t bother you. Chicks dig scars.
excellent use of the roughing endmill!!! You're gettin good!
You, Mr Tony, are a top chap!
Thanks for the great video. I look forward to seeing your new welder in action.
Great to see another video!
How about a couple of rectangular pieces on either side of the clamp, that slide in the "T", with a slip fit hole for the pin. That way it will spread the clamping force in the slot and it might provide enough friction to bind it up when you tighten the allen bolt.
I wondered if reinstating the belly fin would maybe achieve the same result. A packer underneath could be tried first and if it worked, separate fins could be TIGged on
Thank you for pointing out the metric equivalent of the dimensions, loved the video, very entertaining and educational.
Honestly, I am thoroughly entertained watching Tony work on problems I will probably never have thought of.
Very exciting. Loving the new content keep it coming. 🎉
TOT, we love you! Thanks for everything you do, and remember, if you need anything from us, we're here for ya buddy :)
Immaculate as always. Thanks for sharing!
It seems once again you brighten another dreadful day with me getting home and I see a "This Old Tony" video, bless your cotton socks, you made my day better.
For version 2.0, I think you should make the pin DOUBLE the height of the T-Slot, then cut a flat half way through the pin. You'll need to allow the pin to pivot in the bore. This will give the pin a large bearing surface instead of point (actually line) contact on the under side of the T-Slot. Also, I think you'll still need the backup bolt, so I think you should re-design it to make the backup bolt somewhat integral to the design. Fun idea and fun shop project!
I was thinking of all complicated ways to avoid the line contact… maybe not double, but this is a good solution. To get fancy since the press fit goes away he could slit the bottom and put a tiny pin in there to prevent axial movement when it’s not in the slot.
When I bought my used mill I had to file the bottoms of most of my t slots because the cast t nuts that had been used in them had fillets to the stem of the t which line loaded the edge of the slots raising the metal there just enough to jam stuff up. So I kind of think a solution like this really is needed.
Changing the shape of the pin would be a good idea, BUT integrating it to the clamp would be a mistake IMO. A slot through the clamp to allow for threading a bolt through the pin, to act as a T nut/stopper, then articulating the clamp to engage the material would be the solution IMO. It may need to be bigger also. Something more like 5/16" above the table would be about where I would want to be. The face of the clamp could also be knurled if it had more surface area, instead of aggressively biting into the material with the current design, though it seems to grab very well.
I once made L shaped stands/stoppers for wedge clamps for a similar problem. Maybe it was a me-problem, but I just couldn't get it tight enough parallel to t-slot with 1 bolt to stop the wedge clamp from moving it. To be fair, I could've just not clamp it that hard and lower the speed and feed instead, but that just would not have been fun at all! If my memory serves, I think I ended up just tack welding rest of the flanges to couple of scrap plates that had bolt holes in them 😄
Thanks for the video, ToT. Always appreciative.
Good to see ya, Tony 👍! After those surfacing passes, one word came to mind: Zamboni. Bet I wasn’t alone 😄
Great video Tony i just scored a 30 horse phase converter at an auction i look forward to finally getting to use all the knowledge i have learned from all you great guys.
As you mentioned these were hard to hold in the vice i think you and the masters of the metal UA-cam universe need to get together and make a collaboration video making a fractal vice that would be awesome
Try moving the dowel to the other hole closer to the bolt to change the pivot point. You could also remake that but make the arm part three times as long. (I'm just doing this in my head but I'm sure there's a mathematical formula in "the little green machinist Bible" where are you could figure out the optimal pivot point.)
It's a fun little statics problem. The workpiece and the Tony slot provide only perpendicular reaction forces - the workpiece along the X axis and the Tony slot along the Z axis. The only other force acting on the clamp is the screw, which provides a force pretty much only along the Z axis. That means the only thing stopping the clamp from sliding away from the work, i.e. the only forces opposing the reaction force from the workpiece in the X axis, are the small friction forces generated by the pin on the Tony slot and the screw along the bottom. Moving the pivot location can change the rotational equilibrium of forces, but that doesn't solve the X axis equilibrium.
I don't think that friction is ultimately enough to balance the X axis forces. The best solution I could think of is to do what Tony already did, which is add a stationary clamp to take up those forces. However, instead of just butting the body of the rotational clamp against that stationary clamp, the screw could be placed at an angle to generate both X and Z components to its force, and even interface with a pocket on the stationary clamp to prevent marring the bottom of the Tony slot. Finally, the location of the pivot point could be adjusted as close as possible to the clamp face (i.e. as close to the part as possible) to create mechanical advantage between the clamping force and screw force. Moving the dowel closer to the bolt, as you described, would actually do the opposite.
@@Kavurcen That's actually a good point. Like I said I was trying to picture all of this in my head. It almost be better if the bolt was underneath the work piece and you tightened it with like an allen wrench so you can get up underneath there.
Always love getting a new TOT video!
Always a great video, thanks for taking us along. 👊
Lovely work as usual! However, it is the lack of the "bellys" that make the clamps creep up too much. The downward force of the screws makes the middle of the clamps press down (not as you stated in the video) and the bellys would have stopped the jaws getting too deep into the grooves!
Great idea, the first thing I thought when you introduced the profile was that they were going to fail when biting, not because I'm a genius, but because I tried something similar and failed miserably too. I didn't had the brains to back the clamps up, I just machined a longer arm and bigger floating pin with a flat end to "bite" under the T slot.
When I started to watch you I was just out of highschool, now I'm an engineer and a welder. I will hopefully become an Old Diego in the future, thanks to you.
I have to say,your humor style is like Bob Newhart (brilliant and funny). love every video you make.
The shop I work at had a mill that sounded kind of like that when moving in X ended up being the lead screw nut being worn out, might not be the problem but worth a look.