the thumbnail change after all these years 😢🥹 but happy cus it’s more eye catching and up to date , hopefully it’ll bring more attention to y’all man jknews deserves all the love bless up mudda peoples 💯🙌🏻
It’s definitely very bittersweet cause I’m so used to the old thumbnail and it’s so recognizable to me in the subscription feed but the new thumbnails look more professional and makes me feel like JK is starting a new era
That’s way this legalized discrimination. Gay is used here, even though the guy named in the case wasn’t even gay and never wanted a cake. The legal function is the point not the facts of the case
actually you're right, but every contractor signed a contract agreement and in the agreement there's a deadline. Once you breached that, then you'll get sued. So unless you can finish all the construction in one day, be my guest and sit back till the deadline then
@@r.sakarollsafe1285If a contractor doesn't want to work for you, that means they didn't sign a contract agreement in the first place. Come on now. Try using that common sense of yours.
Bruce Jenner got a bunch of kids till he's a trans now.. people will change from time to time. just sayin.. check with your dad. ask him if he felt gay yet hahahaha
@@ClassicFIHD You know you can send an email to yourself, right? This whole case was propped up by a religious think tank and people have also looked into the case too.
@@YounhaMizuki From another address? And you think 3 courts, one being the 10th Circuit of Appeals and another being the Supreme Court of the United States would not check on it? Dohhhhh! What religious think tank? Name please.
@@gadget_hack what reason would that be? it's up to the person who they want to serve is it not? like a private company can refuse service to really anything they don't agree with or what have you...larger companies like restaurants have more limitations but smaller businesses really don't. it's ultimately up to the individual
@@doomzidoomzi I'm not condemning or condoning one thing or another but each person has their own reasons and it is their choice who they decide to provide a service to...it's immoral to force people to do something they don't want to do or don't believe in, in order to satisfy someone else or not appear racist or whatever
@@groovyllicious yes, discrimination is wrong, but given todays society, anyone can claim discrimination for any particular thing so what does it matter? the person could be a total karen and the person providing the service has the right to refuse them service based on not wanting to deal with their attitude and yet they can turn around and claim discrimination. So does it really matter their reasons?
It has always been this way, why would you want to force someone to serve you when you're not aligned in your beliefs anyway? It's not like forcing them to make this product will make them less homophobic or racist, they'll just do a shit job.
@@SpektrikMusic there’s other ways to make money besides having a business. You’re going into a field where you wont always like the person on the other side of that paycheck but you do the work anyways. Honestly that applies to any field of work. How is this any different?
@@ZedXD3 ...because if you have a business you work for yourself and you can choose what you want to do, and if you work in a company you work for and representing someone else, and they decide what you have to do... No one is saying discrimination is ok but in the "land of the free", freedom means that people can express how they feel openly and that might include things that you don't like, going against that is going against the country's idea of freedom.
The defense argued they weren't refusing to serve the gay couple, they said they will make any other types of cakes for them but they won't do a gay wedding cake
Witnessed a Duane Reade manager getting slapped around and still refused to call 911. I stood by to see if it got out of hand as he seemed I'm control somehow, refusing to call 911 bc it would negate one of his slap blocking hands lol. Every store I've frequented heavily has closed for Century 21 to Duane Reade to CVS bc of this concept, no discrimination at door until they pull a gun and actually pull the trigger.
I’m fine if a service provider refuses service and then deals with whatever consequences of that decision. I don’t understand why everyone is using this reasonable point to air their religious and political views as if they’re being attacked. I think good points were made in this discussion but the comments show some people just turn their brains off.
Using the same logic as the baker (who's a muslim), and not a muslim bakery, if a christian couple wants to buy a wedding cake, should they be denied service because baking a cake for them would be against their beliefs?
People seem to forget that people have the right to be bigots or racists. There is nothing illegal about hating a certain group of people, as messed up as that is its freedom.
@@Richardarbizo Honestly, he has alopecia and a fake mustache. Don't believe anything my guy. These boys are of the crafty folk. I saw him at a dog park once.
....Nix that. NYC has one issue ..Owners of Duane Reade, CVS, Rite Aide take nondiscrimination norms to new heights....Accept all the violent vagabonds who will steal $1000 in 3 min and pull and needle on you, get arrested for punching and swinging knives at staff and get out and come back for more in 2 days.
This is the interesting thing about our country. Depending on where you live in the US you're gonna have a different opinion of new federal laws/regulations/SCOTUS decisions bc each state is so different. It seems fine to these guys bc they have so much diversity in California you can just take your business somewhere else. While I agree with that, like Joe mentions, its just not the case everywhere in the US. Although its alarmist, I think something can be said for the idea that ceding any rights could be the start of giving up more and more. Not mention the lack of ideological and political representation in almost every national body of government at the moment.
A gay person can still go get the service done, just not compell speech or infringe on someone's expression... The gay person can still get the cake or website, but if it carries a message you disagree with then you can refuse that aspect of the service... Then it's up to the customer to leave or buy the product minus the message.
I'm not surprised you guys would have this point of view...kinda wannabe joe rogans...I would agree on some of what you said, but it's a slippery slope. With that said I wouldn't want to give my business to someone that has an issue with my lifestyle. I hope those businesses tank tho!!
Wow. Way to assume. Yet they each gave their opinions on the topic as is their right to do on their channel. Most people complain when they all seem to agree with each other, so usually some try to see different viewpoints on a topic. If you don't like it, you can bounce.
How is it a slippery slope? Any private business has a right to refuse service. If theyre happy to lose money for a silly reason thats within their rights and its weird to force a business to do something they dont want to do. People are free to do what they like and like you said, why go to a business that doesnt respect you? Just give your money to a business that does. Businesses literally have "No shirt, No shoes, No service" signs. IF theyre happy to lose money by not serving anybody who comes in shirtless then thats their choice but it isnt a problem for them to do that.
@@gadget_hack You 100% do and private businesses use that right all the time. They have the right to ask you to leave, to refuse business etc based on almost anything. Most businesses wont because they want your money but they 100% can refuse you if they want to.
This was a case more in line with *'Asking for permission'* There is no actual gay couple and the lady isn't even a Web designer. If my business model is to sell hot dogs then my prerogative is to _sell as many hot dogs as I can_ Why pigeon hole my business by denying certain groups of people?
Because gay marriage is contrary to her religious belief so by compelling her to advocate for a cause she does not believe in then you are infringing on her rights. The gay couple can go to another store, the woman cannot go to another God.
@@MisterJaxthe issue is the ruling opens up discrimination, when lgbtq was previously protected from discrimination before as well as race. denying service also infringes on lgbtq's rights.
@@_gnit Nah, it's not business in general. But business that goes against the business's ideology. It's like asking a Jewish person to do Notsee website or else is discrimination agaiinst hwite people.
I wonder. Do these weirdos in the comments just look for any video that has to do with this subject or does this channel have a bunch or online weirdos?😂
@joseavila9830 I personally couldn't care less - I just think everyone should have the same rights to everything, and certain religions shouldn't dictate the laws for everyone else. That's simple, really.
May you guys have special specific days y'all dress like someone else. Example today it was Steve. Tomorrow Nick, etc. And make it a suprise for the person hehehehw
You are assuming that all the commenters are regular subs of the channel. Yet as a long time regular sub I recognize who most of the regular subs/commenters are at this point. Of those sh1t talking for a reaction, they are not regular subs of the channel. They are title jumpers. The type who see a title of a video and just jump on to spout crap, then bounce.
@@ZedXD3 Not in the slightest. Leastwise by people like yourself spouting nonsense BS about a community that you aren't a part of. For if you were, then you would know that we don't tolerate negativity around here. And that most of the videos that JK puts out, have very positive feedback under them. Like the Hot Seat episodes. The JK crew meetings. The skits. When they have had their spouses on with life updates. The videos with interesting guests. As well as, the videos they post about serious topics, that their fans have suggested, where they check in with each other to see how they are all doing. For ex. when they discussed what medical illnesses any of them have had to deal with and when they discussed Bart's dad's passing and how he handled the situation. So for you to come in here and try to talk trash is BS. Leave off and be done with it.🤨
@@gadget_hack The law still stands & protects freedom of speech & religion, so it does have standing. By the way I'm atheist, but this country was founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs & has done great things for the world.
@cuchigarcia2033 wrong again. Read a frigin book man. It's literally in the First Amendment. What about our currency? That was mandated July 11, 1955. H.R. 619, look it up! It only seems that way because of religious gate keeping. The majority of the Republicans currently serving in government think you can only swear in on the bible. Stop trying to gaslight people and go read a book.
their over dramatic how many web designers can they find thats not the only web designer why do people need to force other people if they dont want to sounds like its a them problem
She wasn't force to do anything. She made up the gay scenario. If you think they're going to stop at gay people you're wrong. These people think everyone but them is evil, and since they have political power they will keep passing dumb laws about nothing.
Let me pose this question: What is the difference of the "Trans" movement trying to force me to use their pronouns (force me to use your language) and the right to refuse service as a business owner?
Trans movement? Buddy you're drinking the republican Kool aid. Did one of them put a literal gun to your head? Is that why you say they're forcing you? Or are you making things up like the women who filed this law suit without standing?
@HaroldBalls777 let me be real frank with you. You're not smart. You're comparing apples to pizza. No one is forcing you to do anything. Also, there are limits on the right of a business owner to refuse service. Did you grow up in Texas or Alabama where they refuse to teach you about segregation? Or you didn't learn anything in history class.
@@gadget_hack She has an email on her website asking about it. So, she has proof. And she had standing. She sued the State of Colorado for it's unconstitutional law. The Colorado State court said she had standing as well as the 10th Court of Appeals said she had standing.
Yeah, talking like like half of these business owners that really care about this are normal business owners damn well know half of these people are going to pay a lawyer up the wowza to restructure their entire small ass business so they don’t have to serve anybody they don’t want to you damn well know that’s what they’re doing And this is just a start
Wow, even with editing you still messed up with the grammar, punctuation and sentence structure. Those things are important when trying to get your point across.
the thumbnail change after all these years 😢🥹 but happy cus it’s more eye catching and up to date , hopefully it’ll bring more attention to y’all man jknews deserves all the love bless up mudda peoples 💯🙌🏻
I don't like it
It’s definitely very bittersweet cause I’m so used to the old thumbnail and it’s so recognizable to me in the subscription feed but the new thumbnails look more professional and makes me feel like JK is starting a new era
@Jiminie53421 it's the 2 mil era!
technically as a private contractor you can't make me work for you.
Exactly
That’s way this legalized discrimination. Gay is used here, even though the guy named in the case wasn’t even gay and never wanted a cake. The legal function is the point not the facts of the case
*CCP national anthem intensifies*
actually you're right, but every contractor signed a contract agreement and in the agreement there's a deadline. Once you breached that, then you'll get sued. So unless you can finish all the construction in one day, be my guest and sit back till the deadline then
@@r.sakarollsafe1285If a contractor doesn't want to work for you, that means they didn't sign a contract agreement in the first place. Come on now. Try using that common sense of yours.
The guy in the case wasn’t even real. He was like I have been married for 10 years and ain’t gay. 😂
Yeah it’s funny Steve brings up lawsuit sharks and meanwhile this person was literally that. Made up a whole case that went to the Supreme Court.
Bruce Jenner got a bunch of kids till he's a trans now.. people will change from time to time. just sayin.. check with your dad. ask him if he felt gay yet hahahaha
She has an email on her website asking about it. So, she has proof.
@@ClassicFIHD You know you can send an email to yourself, right? This whole case was propped up by a religious think tank and people have also looked into the case too.
@@YounhaMizuki From another address? And you think 3 courts, one being the 10th Circuit of Appeals and another being the Supreme Court of the United States would not check on it? Dohhhhh!
What religious think tank? Name please.
I wish this was considered for all people especially rude customers in food service. Why are we forced to serve anyone who is rude to workers?
You're not forced if you own tbe business.
No business is forced to service rude customers. You as an employee may be forced to.
Lol ask your boss why
"No Soup for you! Come back, One year." -Soup Nazi
people who offers services have a right to refuse their services to anyone they choose
Within reason. It has limitations.
@@gadget_hack what reason would that be? it's up to the person who they want to serve is it not? like a private company can refuse service to really anything they don't agree with or what have you...larger companies like restaurants have more limitations but smaller businesses really don't. it's ultimately up to the individual
@@doomzidoomzi I'm not condemning or condoning one thing or another but each person has their own reasons and it is their choice who they decide to provide a service to...it's immoral to force people to do something they don't want to do or don't believe in, in order to satisfy someone else or not appear racist or whatever
As long it's not discrimination base on immutable attributes.
@@groovyllicious yes, discrimination is wrong, but given todays society, anyone can claim discrimination for any particular thing so what does it matter? the person could be a total karen and the person providing the service has the right to refuse them service based on not wanting to deal with their attitude and yet they can turn around and claim discrimination. So does it really matter their reasons?
From what I understood, nobody even asked her to do it. It’s just on the off chance that some lgbtq person/s ask her to do something for them
She has an email on her website asking about it. So, she has proof.
Unpopular opinion: Freedom of association should come back.
Its not just lgbtq rights its open discrimination of anything. Racial, sexuality, or religion. Its all up for denial now
It has always been this way, why would you want to force someone to serve you when you're not aligned in your beliefs anyway? It's not like forcing them to make this product will make them less homophobic or racist, they'll just do a shit job.
@@SpektrikMusic there’s other ways to make money besides having a business. You’re going into a field where you wont always like the person on the other side of that paycheck but you do the work anyways. Honestly that applies to any field of work. How is this any different?
@@ZedXD3 ...because if you have a business you work for yourself and you can choose what you want to do, and if you work in a company you work for and representing someone else, and they decide what you have to do...
No one is saying discrimination is ok but in the "land of the free", freedom means that people can express how they feel openly and that might include things that you don't like, going against that is going against the country's idea of freedom.
I love Kalyne
The defense argued they weren't refusing to serve the gay couple, they said they will make any other types of cakes for them but they won't do a gay wedding cake
Just charge a ridiculous amount that they don’t want to pay.
Gotta get a sign that says "we sell gays cake, but not gay cakes"
smart af haha
I’m just Soaking Up all that information in my System.
Whatever, I’ve missed I’ll put that on Replay.
Witnessed a Duane Reade manager getting slapped around and still refused to call 911. I stood by to see if it got out of hand as he seemed I'm control somehow, refusing to call 911 bc it would negate one of his slap blocking hands lol. Every store I've frequented heavily has closed for Century 21 to Duane Reade to CVS bc of this concept, no discrimination at door until they pull a gun and actually pull the trigger.
I’m fine if a service provider refuses service and then deals with whatever consequences of that decision. I don’t understand why everyone is using this reasonable point to air their religious and political views as if they’re being attacked.
I think good points were made in this discussion but the comments show some people just turn their brains off.
Using the same logic as the baker (who's a muslim), and not a muslim bakery, if a christian couple wants to buy a wedding cake, should they be denied service because baking a cake for them would be against their beliefs?
Thats true. If i want to not serve black people in my establishment then i have a right to.
loving the outfits honestly
People seem to forget that people have the right to be bigots or racists. There is nothing illegal about hating a certain group of people, as messed up as that is its freedom.
Joe hit the point exactly, it is socialism not freedom.
I love joe, bart, ms lionheart, Steve, nick, and D trix. Lol kidding, love you Ryan ❤
I'll be pissed if I find out Ryan's been bald this whole time
@@Richardarbizo Honestly, he has alopecia and a fake mustache. Don't believe anything my guy. These boys are of the crafty folk. I saw him at a dog park once.
@@christopherlee5726😂😂😂
The cake baker also doesn't bake sex and halloween theme cakes as well..
I used to live around devout Christians that didn't celebrate Halloween... It was rough for their daughters, but I collected extra for them
Coming from a consumer standpoint, I would not want to support a creator or small business that does not support inclusivity
....Nix that. NYC has one issue ..Owners of Duane Reade, CVS, Rite Aide take nondiscrimination norms to new heights....Accept all the violent vagabonds who will steal $1000 in 3 min and pull and needle on you, get arrested for punching and swinging knives at staff and get out and come back for more in 2 days.
What’s crazy is that this web designer lied about the person in the first place
She didn't lie, stop getting your fake new from fake news media.
This is the interesting thing about our country. Depending on where you live in the US you're gonna have a different opinion of new federal laws/regulations/SCOTUS decisions bc each state is so different. It seems fine to these guys bc they have so much diversity in California you can just take your business somewhere else. While I agree with that, like Joe mentions, its just not the case everywhere in the US. Although its alarmist, I think something can be said for the idea that ceding any rights could be the start of giving up more and more. Not mention the lack of ideological and political representation in almost every national body of government at the moment.
Every business esp independent biz can refuse service for any reason from my understanding.
I like tacky tracksuit day 💯
It was for all Steve day.
How many more subs for everybody to get a 40 percent raise
Unfortunately it has to do more with brand deals
A gay person can still go get the service done, just not compell speech or infringe on someone's expression... The gay person can still get the cake or website, but if it carries a message you disagree with then you can refuse that aspect of the service... Then it's up to the customer to leave or buy the product minus the message.
I'm not surprised you guys would have this point of view...kinda wannabe joe rogans...I would agree on some of what you said, but it's a slippery slope.
With that said I wouldn't want to give my business to someone that has an issue with my lifestyle. I hope those businesses tank tho!!
Wow. Way to assume. Yet they each gave their opinions on the topic as is their right to do on their channel. Most people complain when they all seem to agree with each other, so usually some try to see different viewpoints on a topic. If you don't like it, you can bounce.
How is it a slippery slope? Any private business has a right to refuse service. If theyre happy to lose money for a silly reason thats within their rights and its weird to force a business to do something they dont want to do. People are free to do what they like and like you said, why go to a business that doesnt respect you? Just give your money to a business that does.
Businesses literally have "No shirt, No shoes, No service" signs. IF theyre happy to lose money by not serving anybody who comes in shirtless then thats their choice but it isnt a problem for them to do that.
@@Arcadia6227it has limitations. So no you can't refuse service because you don't want to serve someone.
@@gadget_hack I mean Costco ain't serving you if you don't have a membership. Their business, their rule. Lol
@@gadget_hack You 100% do and private businesses use that right all the time. They have the right to ask you to leave, to refuse business etc based on almost anything. Most businesses wont because they want your money but they 100% can refuse you if they want to.
You can design your own animated website online why would I hire anyone
This was a case more in line with *'Asking for permission'* There is no actual gay couple and the lady isn't even a Web designer.
If my business model is to sell hot dogs then my prerogative is to _sell as many hot dogs as I can_ Why pigeon hole my business by denying certain groups of people?
Because gay marriage is contrary to her religious belief so by compelling her to advocate for a cause she does not believe in then you are infringing on her rights. The gay couple can go to another store, the woman cannot go to another God.
But that’s the choice. You can choose to sell to gay people or not. Its your business and it’s on you to look out for your own profits.
@@MisterJaxthe issue is the ruling opens up discrimination, when lgbtq was previously protected from discrimination before as well as race.
denying service also infringes on lgbtq's rights.
@@gilligan1397just like choosing not to sell to black people? or are they in a protected law to prevent discrimination against?
@@_gnit Nah, it's not business in general. But business that goes against the business's ideology. It's like asking a Jewish person to do Notsee website or else is discrimination agaiinst hwite people.
Just like you all emphasized, this woman isn’t refusing her services BECAUSE they are gay. She is refusing to provide a specific service.
Whys everybody wearing some flashy ass weird shits?
In tribute to Steve. He is the regular tracksuit aficionado.
You guys really want to go back to the days of segregation and "separate but equal", dont you?
I wonder. Do these weirdos in the comments just look for any video that has to do with this subject or does this channel have a bunch or online weirdos?😂
You mean ppl who disagree with your ideas, yeah those exist everywhere
The majority of us have been watching JKnews for a while. I think you're just heavily politicized
Yeah the people who watch this channel tend to be problematic
@joseavila9830 I personally couldn't care less - I just think everyone should have the same rights to everything, and certain religions shouldn't dictate the laws for everyone else. That's simple, really.
@@thalunizz21 you’d think it’d be that simple right? lol
May you guys have special specific days y'all dress like someone else.
Example today it was Steve.
Tomorrow Nick, etc.
And make it a suprise for the person hehehehw
Title is a total lie. She has gay and LGBT clients. Why do you guys feel the need to lie?
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Didn't I read the suers drove miles to specifically that bakery
Wow
Gay door says, "If I'm not coming out, you're not coming in"
😂😂😂😅😅
They have the right to refuse service
lgbt rights dont triumph religious rights. why they tryna destroy religion just go somewhere else. I'm sure there's a gay website designer
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and religious rights don't triumph lgbt rights either
@@sebastiandendulk3275 SCOTUS begs to differ
Your religious rights aren't more important than others. I wonder if you'll say the same if it was another religion besides your own. 🤔
@@thalunizz21 since when is a service from a private business a right?
They should be able to refuse. Period.
:D
The comments really show who supports this channel its kinda disheartening
You are assuming that all the commenters are regular subs of the channel. Yet as a long time regular sub I recognize who most of the regular subs/commenters are at this point. Of those sh1t talking for a reaction, they are not regular subs of the channel. They are title jumpers. The type who see a title of a video and just jump on to spout crap, then bounce.
Does that mean you're a long time sub since you commented here? lol. Try to use some logic next time.
@@bethnichols2875 triggered clearly lol
@@maplenerd22 triggered much? Lol Your logic is off what does that have to even do with anything?? 😂
@@ZedXD3 Not in the slightest. Leastwise by people like yourself spouting nonsense BS about a community that you aren't a part of. For if you were, then you would know that we don't tolerate negativity around here. And that most of the videos that JK puts out, have very positive feedback under them. Like the Hot Seat episodes. The JK crew meetings. The skits. When they have had their spouses on with life updates. The videos with interesting guests. As well as, the videos they post about serious topics, that their fans have suggested, where they check in with each other to see how they are all doing. For ex. when they discussed what medical illnesses any of them have had to deal with and when they discussed Bart's dad's passing and how he handled the situation. So for you to come in here and try to talk trash is BS. Leave off and be done with it.🤨
Just go to another web designer. There are hundreds, if not thousands of web designers looking for work.
This Supreme Court is going to go down in history as the best ever.
By hearing a case that doesn't have standing? That's a stupid take 🤣.
@@gadget_hack What?
@cuchigarcia2033 the lady made up the "gay" guy. She asked for permission to discriminate based on a lie, and they granted it to her.
@@gadget_hack The law still stands & protects freedom of speech & religion, so it does have standing. By the way I'm atheist, but this country was founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs & has done great things for the world.
@cuchigarcia2033 wrong again. Read a frigin book man. It's literally in the First Amendment. What about our currency? That was mandated July 11, 1955. H.R. 619, look it up! It only seems that way because of religious gate keeping. The majority of the Republicans currently serving in government think you can only swear in on the bible.
Stop trying to gaslight people and go read a book.
Victim Mentality
It's a popular outlook.
their over dramatic
how many web designers can they find
thats not the only web designer
why do people need to force other people if they dont want to
sounds like its a them problem
She wasn't force to do anything. She made up the gay scenario. If you think they're going to stop at gay people you're wrong. These people think everyone but them is evil, and since they have political power they will keep passing dumb laws about nothing.
Happy Birthdey Ginadarling 🎉
Hope David didn't forget again. 😏
@@bethnichols2875 hheehhehe
Let me pose this question: What is the difference of the "Trans" movement trying to force me to use their pronouns (force me to use your language) and the right to refuse service as a business owner?
Trans movement? Buddy you're drinking the republican Kool aid. Did one of them put a literal gun to your head? Is that why you say they're forcing you? Or are you making things up like the women who filed this law suit without standing?
@@gadget_hack - I am a Democrat. The difference is I am a smart Democrat.
@HaroldBalls777 let me be real frank with you. You're not smart. You're comparing apples to pizza. No one is forcing you to do anything. Also, there are limits on the right of a business owner to refuse service. Did you grow up in Texas or Alabama where they refuse to teach you about segregation? Or you didn't learn anything in history class.
@@gadget_hack She has an email on her website asking about it. So, she has proof.
And she had standing. She sued the State of Colorado for it's unconstitutional law. The Colorado State court said she had standing as well as the 10th Court of Appeals said she had standing.
@@ClassicFIHD link it then
Yeah, talking like like half of these business owners that really care about this are normal business owners
damn well know half of these people are going to pay a lawyer up the wowza to restructure their entire small ass business so they don’t have to serve anybody they don’t want to
you damn well know that’s what they’re doing
And this is just a start
Wow, even with editing you still messed up with the grammar, punctuation and sentence structure. Those things are important when trying to get your point across.
@@bethnichols2875 you really liked your A’s in class didn’t you.
What if all of the businesses are owned by a cultural homogeny?
Being gay is a choice debate me
So, you're choosing to be straight?
@@thalunizz21 no people are born straight theirs a reason most pedos are gay by stats.
@thalunizz21 by population size they commit far more sex crimes on average then straight people
@thalunizz21 also prison culture is full proof being gay is a choice .
Just stop, don't come here to start problems.