@@justtubing767yeah your local democrat masked goons running around scaring people. The kkk and patriot front are now proven to both be democrat activists creating a fear among the easily gullible.
Affirmative action was never preferential. It barely counteracted real discrimination. If a white guy couldn't get in, he wasn't qualified. AA was active my entire career, and I never lost a job opportunity to a "diversity hire." I also never worked with a black peer who wasn't equally competent.
In 2011, Paul R. Allen, 55, of Oakton, Virginia, was sentenced to 40 months in prison after being convicted of fraud for participating in a $2.9 billion scheme that caused the mortgage and lending firm Taylor, Bean & Whitaker to go under. Two years earlier, Roy Brown, 54, a homeless African-American man, was sentenced to 15 years without the possibility of parole for robbing a bank in Shreveport, Louisiana. According to the scant reporting on the story, Brown only took $100 from the stack handed to him and told the teller he needed it because he was homeless and hungry.
If a prospective supreme court justice chooses 'I like beer' as a meaningful defense against rape accusations, how can you possibly lower academic expectations any further?
If they’re rolling back affirmative action then they should not factor “legacy” into admissions either... I mean if it’s about the merits of the individual 🤷🏻♀️
I agree morally but there is nothing in the constitution or civil rights law which they could use to rule against that issue. That issue would need to be tackled by a legislature.
Meritocracy plays a relatively small role in the current college admissions system, regardless of race-based affirmative action. You want meritocracy? Then ban legacy admissions, prevent rich people from donating their way into the dean’s lists, ignore unpaid internships in prestigious positions acquired through family networks. That’s just the start. Change the entire education system to ensure true equality of opportunity. Do not fund schools through local real estate taxes, make sure all kids have access to quality pre-k education, guarantee that all elementary, middle, and high schools have good teachers and adequate resources. Only after all of that may we start talking about meritocracy in college educations.
If a person is rejected because of their race, it’s discrimination! What does feelings have to do with determining if something is constitutional or not?
Not really. Contrary to CNN's reporting, the Supreme Court still allows for the consideration of race in university admissions. Affirmative action is unfortunately here to stay.
The policy of affirmative action dates to the Reconstruction Era in the United States, 1863-1877.[106] Current policy was introduced in the early 1960s in the United States, as a way to combat racial discrimination in the hiring process, with the concept later expanded to address gender discrimination.[107] Affirmative action was first created from Executive Order 10925, which was signed by President John F. Kennedy on 6 March 1961 and required that government employers "not discriminate against any employee or applicant for employment because of race, creed, color, or national origin" and "take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed and that employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin
@@animalanger He believes two wrongs make a right, and that a past injustice can only be made right if we inflict the same or more injustice on everyone but the previous victim. Yeah, I know, it makes no sense but there ya have it.
So allowing those with the best ability vs the favored group is wrong now? I thought MLK said to judge people not by the color of their skin but by their actions.
You should hear what MLK said to those ladies of the night when he was getting freaky in those cheap hotels. The FBI recorded it. He was a real freak between the sheets.
Why is it even on the application as to what RACE a person is? Shouldn't there just be an anonymous applicant who has submitted their qualifications for entry into this 'esteemed' university? Why isn't education free for all to enjoy anyway?
Keep this in mind year Maga troll. This SCOTUS set the new way for the SC.. ANY court at ANY time in history can now go back and look over any decision any court has made an over turn it. MEaning as SOON as there is a liberal majority SCOTUS, they can come back whenever they want and overturn these decisions. That would include anything to di with Gun control. Enjoy living with that fear the second we see 6 - 3 even 5 - 4 Majority Liberal judges.
The constitution isn't the end all in modern society and this is a good example. It's not going to cover what happens when society is destabilized even further due to minority groups that fall even further behind. It takes landing on some people's front porch to get that.
@@88badstang almost as if its a reactionary precaution based on the events from 14 days prior because a certain wannabe usurper tried to pull a coup attempt 🤔🤡 Oh and ps, you should probably go get that TDS checked out. Its not good for you 😢
It doesn’t matter what’s going on in the world. The main problem is that human slavery has never left and still here in a different way by us being born with a number aka social security number,go to school to train to be a slave in a good way and then work most of your life only for most of it to be taken out of your check leaving you little to get by to make you to make you keep working and if you’re retired,you soon won’t be anymore the way this world is going lol. If that’s not human trafficking/prostitution/human slavery,I don’t know what is🤣💀.
Kids in affluent areas have an inherent advantage. Remember the importance of ACT/SAT tests in college admissions? Middle-class kids take classes, paid for by parents, to boost their scores and get better scholarships and acceptance rates. You think poor parents and kids can afford those classes? That's just one example. Another is the abundance of opportunities available to kids in affluent areas to get involved. Not only are there more options, but other factors come into play. Extra-curricular activities are a lot easier to participate in when you aren't worried how figuring out how you're going to eat for the day.
Now post the drop out rates of African Americans/Hispanics etc in Universities the last 15 years. Why? because they were there mostly because of thier skin color.
If you want to build a strong nation,you do it with skills/talent not colour ,race or the group you belong to . All education, government jobs, private jobs placements should be on skills/talent if you want to grow a nation.
You know how many MORE qualified black people get overpassed for less qualified White people? Hell the maga crowd Kept saying Judge Brown was only appointed because she's a Black woman.. Funny, she's MORE qualified than EVERYONE ELSE on that bench. Yea. that happens.
That's definitely one side of the coin and it's valid. But you can't have a strong nation if it becomes more divided socially with different races falling even further behind. There's got to be a remedy there or it's a zero sum game.
@@BigBadJerryRogersaffirmative action will NEVER be the solution! They're those who will ALWAYS hold their hands out looking for someone to give them something!
That would be great in a country that didn't have explicit racism in it's founding document, have a civil war over racism, and have to pass major legislation only a few decades ago to deal with still existing racism. There probably isn't another major industrialized country on Earth that is so steeped in racism as the US.
There was a time when Europeans looked up to and envied the United States. That time is long gone. Who the hell wants to travel to the USA today, who wants to live there now (except distraught South Americans). The USA was once a country where I wanted to make long journeys. That desire is long gone. Poor, poor America.
My kids are half asian half white. I am glad this ruling has occurred and will enable my son to have a FAIR chance to go to any good university in the USA.
Good. That way your kids can come up with the solution to other minority groups falling even further behind where they are now and the added deterioration of society resulting from this. We're going to need a lot of help.
@@BigBadJerryRogers Many minority groups thrive in the US, those who value education. Parents have to read to their children, and encourage their academic pursuits. You can't just turn on the TV, not read to your kids, then expect them to do well in school. AA has led to the deterioration of society. Ending this terrible practice will help heal the wounds it has caused. The next step is to take all competitive sports out of school. PE should consist of activities people can pursue alone, to maintain lifelong health benefits. Sports scholarships aren't given in other countries. That is why their colleges are more affordable, less money is wasted on sports.
@@deborahfreedman333 Too many parents simply are not fit to be parents and don't have that discipline and never will. Take competitive sports out of school eh? You don't really live in reality here, but you definitely have an opinion.
@@BigBadJerryRogers Affirmative action does not help anybody. It turns students who would have otherwise been successful into artificial failures. When a student in the 70th percentile of the country is accepted in a school whose average student is 80th percentile, that student is doomed to fail. This is what affirmative action does to minorities. It destroys their self-stem by admitting into programs they are not ready to succeed at. Affirmative action have lowered the higher education success rate of the Black community, it has not increased it. All for the sake of virtue signaling. This is Thomas Sowell: “Mismatching students with educational institutions is a formula for needless failures. The book "Mismatch," by Sander and Taylor is a first-rate study of the hard facts. It shows, for example, that the academic performances of black and Hispanic students rose substantially after affirmative action admissions policies were banned in the University of California system. Instead of failing at Berkeley or UCLA, these minority students were now graduating from other campuses in the University of California system. They were graduating at a higher rate, with higher grades, and now more often in challenging fields like math, science and technology.”
I had pretty much given up on our country years ago. Me and my family were victims of affirmative action when I worked in Minneapolis. Perhaps there is hope yet.
Exactly. The amount of businesses that openly hiring minorities (Specifically black people) because of their color to make the job "More diverse" is clear racism.
Identity politics have to go out the window and people need to be judged on their own merits ideally also having equally good public schools to attend. The money's there it's just in the wrong hands. You know the guys who are completely not oligarchs.
@@richardbaker_0086 He barely had the grades, and was rated as just "qualified" and not "well qualified". by the ARA. Two members judged him as "not qualified"
When it's convenient for him, Clarence Thomas is strict originalist who believes the Constitution must be interpreted only in the historical context of the time it was written. When it goes against the wishes of his wealthy patrons, however, he ignores the fact that the 14th Amendment was written in 1868, three years after the end of the Civil War, when "equal protection under the law" had to be spelled out to protect newly freed African Americans.
@@jasonfuchs4304 So the U.S. ratified its constitution in 1789 and afterward multiple amendments were passed. The 14th amendment was passed in 1868, after the United States fought a civil war against the slave-owning Confederate states of the south. You can pretty much look it up from there.
your comment is nonsensical. Based on your logic, the contextual implication of the 14th Amendment means that "equal protection under the law" should only apply to African Americans.
I don't know why people think affirmative action and legacy admission are the same thing. affirmative action = discriminate against asian and white on the basis of race = against the law legacy admission = discriminate against lower class or people with less money = is not against law
Skin color was one of many factors, not the only, and removing the university’s ability to use it as a factor, reduces the university’s ability to build the best student body they can.
It’s always interesting when people say this yet 1/3 of Harvard acceptance are heritage ones far more than affirmative action acceptance😂 if you really cared for merit that’s what you would fight for
Why not? Racial discrimination was only a bad thing when it hurt someone. If it's helping someone, what is even wrong with it? You yts are all confused, concepts have clouded your vision from what's really important.
For those who support affirmative action. How would you feel if NBA or other major sports league also try with this method? Asians are really under represented in those fields.
College is a waste out time and money!!! Stop believing you actually need a degree for a job. Unless you're gonna be a doctor or lawyer or something like that don't waste your time.
No wait! Letting Asians into college because they are smarter than everyone else isn’t fair because they don’t need college because they are already smart.
It's a sad day when people are attacking diversity, equity, and inclusion. Basically, they're saying not those people, we're not equal, and I don't want you here. Wearing a hood and burning a cross on a lawn will drive the point on home.
@@milkmanx Never said that.He said there is no ideal polity for the people wich is completely different.He also said that democracy has flaws but he never rejected democratical governance.
Socrates taught Plato who taught Aristotle. They all went to "university" in Africa (Egypt) for over a decade. I don't think they graduated. But they are the pillars of "Western Civilization". The Greeks were seen as children, educationally, by the Egyptians. Thus, Aristotle went to Africa to learn and "make unequal things equal". Three thousand years after Egypt began and Rome was the new power, the northern Europeans were seen as barbarians by the Romans. Much has changed in 2000 years. Affirmative action was needed for "fixing" past wrongs and discrimination against Black people. Asians got their affirmative action in Asia when America economically fixed their nations after bombing them "into the stone age". As America prepares for war in Asia (against China) getting into Harvard will not be their biggest problem.
Only a narcissist like Thomas could think that ending affirmative action is a step towards racial equality. He would never have been able to.hold.the position he now enjoys were it not for affirmative action. In his narcissistic mind him being thought of as having been helped along or less than was enough to ruin it for all the young minds that unlike him might have made a positive contribution to society. When I think of Thomas I'm reminded of that character in the Django movie.Leonardo Decaprios black butler. He's nothing but a excuse my french house N!!!!
Imagine fighting so hard to end systematic racism then the Supreme Court dismantles the only systematic racism left in our society and you are upset. What a weird time to be alive. >.>
Not the only systemic racism left. There are still plenty of jobs that discriminate, and hire less qualified candidates, based upon race. Look at the VP.
@@deborahfreedman333 Racial discrimination is literally everywhere. Our system is based on discrimination. Just because people refuse to look and WANT to remain ignorant, does not mean the it does not exist. Yes, that last bit was directed at you. Cheers.
People harp on "systemic racism" as if it is still 1940. As if zero progress has been made. Frankly, the American culture has moved on from the excessiveness of many "progressives". I looked at pictures of the graduating class of my alma mater (University of Virginia) and the graduates were predominantly women and POC. I didn't see a white male face anywhere. That seems unusual to me, given the demographics of Virginia. Maybe affirmative Action has gone far? Maybe the DEI departments are overstepping? Maybe America already HAS erased the systemic racism blockades of the past? Maybe Affirmative Action was a good idea for its time, and now it is done?
@@middleway5271 Rubbish. Everything looks like a nail to a hammer. People like you are over-examining everything, and "finding" racism where it really doesn't exist. Evert little thing is a "micro aggression".
The judicial branch is the third independent leg of government. You don’t understand how our country has worked for over two hundred years. Educate yourself please.
Ultimately, while I support the idea of wanting more diverse colleges the reality is many of these colleges have had decades to find new ways to achieve diversity without relying so much on affirmative action. Instead, they have spent all that time doing nothing while hoping that affirmative action would be around forever. As a result I now fully expect to see a decline in collge admaisssion among many minority stundents across this country and these colleges have no one to blame for that but themselves since they could have easily prepared for an outcome like this decades ago....
@@allieannette3712 Some scientists swear they can cure you from schizophrenia with a lobotomy , problem is they can not guarantee you that you'll be cured----this conservative supreme court justices, are the equivalent of those scientists, and they just performed a lobotomy on America....
I don't see how it's only the colleges to blame, it's systemic starting from birth. What do people of all races have to overcome to get to the college, that's the only way to look at it.
Diversity should be based on skill sets, education level or positions and beliefs. Whith these people they only use race, gender, or ethnicity to define diversity which relies on stereotypes that each race have the same life experience and assign it greater importance the more it can be intersectionalized with victim groups.
Most of us should admit~~ some people are smarter and more innovative than others (not becaue of race but we as human beings). Then the school shall select the best candidates to enrol in their programs ~ based on their merits academically, socially or contribution to their communities. 😊
Except we know the “merits” used to calculate that are stacked against racial minorites. SATs are based in eugenics, grades/school systems are based in money and a sprinkle of racism, and have little to do with how talented or intelligent a person is.
@@illegalturtleeVery racist of you to admit that testing academia is a disadvantage to certain racial groups. And that we need to change the system for their weaknesses
RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY WILL NOT END BUT THE DECISION IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I DON'T FREAKING UNDERSTAND WHY KAGAN, JACKSON AND SOTOMAYOR DISSENTED TO THE CASE.
@@IAND-wg8fq proof:the process or an instance of establishing the validity of a statement especially by derivation from other statements in accordance with principles of reasoning
Did justice Thomas who is Afro-Americanreceive race-based points to get into grad school and did he vote for this aggrieved ruling? Would he vote against preferential treatment of sons of wealthy donors? The USSC's irrationally aggrieved ruling elevates the values of the anti-woke and the politically incorrect crowd.
. . . SINCE THE DEAD ARE TO BE JUDGED OUT OF THE THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOKS , IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT THE SINS OF MEN SHOULD BE BLOTTED OUT UNTIL AFTER THE JUDGEMENT AT WHICH THEIR CASES ARE TO BE INVESTIGATED . . .
I wish people would stop quoting MLK only when it fit their narrow and self serving views. Quoting King but not reading his work in its entirety is foolish and lazy.
A case selected for argument usually involves interpretations of the U. S. Constitution or federal law. At least four Justices have selected the case as being of such importance that the Supreme Court must resolve the legal issues. An attorney for each side of a case will have an opportunity to make a presentation to the Court and answer questions posed by the Justices. Prior to the argument each side has submitted a legal brief-a written legal argument outlining each party’s points of law. The Justices have read these briefs prior to argument and are thoroughly familiar with the case, its facts, and the legal positions that each party is advocating.
Beginning the first Monday in October, the Court generally hears two one-hour arguments a day, at 10 a.m. and 11 a.m., with occasional afternoon sessions scheduled as necessary. Arguments are held on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays in two-week intervals through late April (with longer breaks during December and February). The argument calendars are posted on the Court’s Website under the "Oral Arguments" link. In the recesses between argument sessions, the Justices are busy writing opinions, deciding which cases to hear in the future, and reading the briefs for the next argument session. They grant review in approximately 80 of the more than 5,000-7,000 petitions filed with the Court each Term. No one knows exactly when a decision will be handed down by the Court in an argued case, nor is there a set time period in which the Justices must reach a decision. However, all cases argued during a Term of Court are decided before the summer recess begins, usually by the end of June. During an argument week, the Justices meet in a private conference, closed even to staff, to discuss the cases and to take a preliminary vote on each case. If the Chief Justice is in the majority on a case decision, he decides who will write the opinion. He may decide to write it himself or he may assign that duty to any other Justice in the majority. If the Chief Justice is in the minority, the Justice in the majority who has the most seniority assumes the assignment duty.
Whats your point? They still can be bias and pick what their benefactors tell them too. It don’t mean they doing whats in the best interest of everyone. Like they took on that case of the web designer and come to find out the man never hired her, he is a web designer himself, straight and married. No one ever contacted this man. So they pushed an agenda through and never investigated or contacted the other person. These 4 justices are not fully qualified to be on the Supreme court, especially the ones who never tried any case in court. People conveniently ignoring the fact that they didn’t earn their right to be on the highest court they was put there because of politics. Its just as bad as the legacy students who are not academically qualified but can be admitted to a university.
@@pyroblast3000 Cry losers cry! 🤣🤣🤣 We see who the real racists are with this judgement. Funny how democrats see skin color as being so important. When skin color is the least interesting part of anyone!
@@keepingit8797 Well the thing is Affirmative action wasn't all about race. It was extended to gender also. Which is why the biggest recipients of AA are white women. It's sad people like you like to "win" but what have you won? You've won nothing, just took away something from someone else. All the facts show that diversity in all levels of schools make better schools. I see people like you, don't care about facts...just care about the other side crying...congrats.
The truth is as a parent of children of color, we always have told them they have to work harder to achieve the same goals as those of no color. So, this action simply helps my point. God says what people may do with intentions of harming others he will use to strengthen instead.
So you believe that being given special privilege because of your race means you actually "have to work harder" to achieve the same goals? Unbelievable how easy it is to get a lie accepted as fact simply by repeating it constantly.
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” - MLK 🇺🇲
Military was mentioned here but in fact, the majority ruled that diversity in military leadership is necessary. (Which effectively negates the stated purpose of the ruling.) Gee, I wonder why they want diversity in the military but not in education…
The liberal justices are easily as much 'activist judges' as Thomas and Alito. If they were all Democrat picks they'd all vote liberal 100% of the time. Atleast the conservative judges practice SOME measure of objectivity.
@@joet7136 Some of the Conservative justices are totally objective. The liberal ones are activists through and through. Just read their utterances especially when they're on the losing side of a decision. You could imagine them throwing their clenched fists up in the air.
The reason this ruling came about was discrimination. That surely hasn't gone away! Now the rich can buy their child's college ed. w/o any barriers. We'll see
No this is what you call backwards racism... ain't nobody stupid. I got two Five star grandson being recruited outta high school. Both will go to a HBC... along with many of their friends. See we learning😏
Exactly. Most of these decisions are due to trumps appointments this is the reason conservatives wanted a conservative supreme court to roll back all progress in America.
That's why we had Affirmative Action because "we" were judging people on the color of their skin and they weren't getting in. "We" still have Affirmative Action though.
*We've had affirmative action for 50 years! Time to move in! Even the late justice Sandra Day O'Connor foresaw the day when it would no longer be justified or needed! Maybe now black students will take time to work and study harder knowing they won't have that crutch to lift them over more deserving people!*
Article 35 of China's 🇨🇳 Constitution says: "Citizens shall enjoy freedom of speech, the press, assembly association, procession and demonstration." - Is this a joke?
I always think that university is a place for pursuing academic excellence, why race should be a factor at all. This is particularly so in the field of STEM.
it's a factor because we suppressed an entire race through slavery and segregation for centuries. now, we can overtly discriminate against minorities again.
@@Soapboxstomper No, the floodgates of inequality have been closed. It doesn't matter who is being oppressed, and who advantaged, racial discrimination is always wrong.
@osamabinladenssecondgirlfr4241 When does this end? When can people of color stand on their own? 20 years 100 years 1000 years??? Should the guy with the crutches be using them 20 years after his knee is fully healed? At that point arn't those crutches just holding him back? Has he not become a life long victim of his own reduced exptations? The time has come for change. The time has come to throw away the clutches and stand on one's own feet. You need to stop living in the past.
Affirmative action, while wildly abused, was a good thing and it brought a lot of deserving people into places they deserved to be. It also helped a lot of people out of poverty. Our current Supreme Court is corrupt and abusive and there are at least three members on it deserving of prosecution and imprisonment.
Did you know that affirmative action is unconstitutional and always has been when it comes to college admissions! Martin Luther King would have loved this decision! Politician Democrats use this for political reasons just as they use people of color racism! I am glad Joe Biden and the Democrats are angry that means it must be good for the country
Sotomayor’s dissent had nothing to do with law or the Constitution. She made a strictly emotional defense of her position. Dictionary definition of an activist judge.
With no party affiliation, I support this decision - it's time we put more weight into CDC Adverse Childhood Event scoring /ACE scores rather than than color/race/ethnicity. It is time to get away from that and use more holistic criteria !! I wish we had more ACE scoring which could trigger early interventions and perhaps this would benefit society vs. outdated risk models based on race, color, ethnicity. So much human potential is wasted because some people, no matter how gifted, have no safety net, no support system/family/mentors, and no special privilege/ treatment such as this outdated affirmative action criteria, athletic scholarships, or legacy admissions.
Race should not be a factor. If you want to overpay for an education at an ivy league school, go to community college, get all As and then apply - two years of a great quality education at a reasonable price followed by two years of expensive education - same degree and prestige.
It doesn’t matter what’s going on in the world. The main problem is that human slavery has never left and still here in a different way by us being born with a number aka social security number,go to school to train to be a slave in a good way and then work most of your life only for most of it to be taken out of your check leaving you little to get by to make you to make you keep working and if you’re retired,you soon won’t be anymore the way this world is going lol. If that’s not human trafficking/prostitution/human slavery,I don’t know what is🤣💀.
college is opportunity, the students still had to meet the expectations. requirements were not reduced for minorities, they were just told they needed to keep space open for them.
@@sebcw1204 Well that's still wrong then. How does that not contradict the Civil Rights Act? Should be no race based college admissions. If they didn't know the kids race, they'd all be picked fairly.
Martin Luther King Jr. "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
@@sebcw1204 unless he said "oh wait a minute, on 2nd thought, judge me by the color of my skin cause I need to get paid"... then it's irrelevant to the comment and this decision.
The policy of affirmative action dates to the Reconstruction Era in the United States, 1863-1877.[106] Current policy was introduced in the early 1960s in the United States, as a way to combat racial discrimination in the hiring process, with the concept later expanded to address gender discrimination.[107] Affirmative action was first created from Executive Order 10925, which was signed by President John F. Kennedy on 6 March 1961 and required that government employers "not discriminate against any employee or applicant for employment because of race, creed, color, or national origin" and "take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed and that employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin"
@terryharker6726 MLK lead us into a burning building, we were better off as a people with our own. Even with our own, they still find a way to drop bombs on our heads and destroy our towns. When we try to lift our selves, they sabotage us becUse believe it or not there us still racism and discrimination today. You think racist white ppl for 400 years suddenly change over. Night, it's going to back fire on these Asians l, watch.
This has given me more hope in American politics than I’ve had in almost a decade. This is SO OVERDUE ❤❤ next step is to make scholarships based on race/gender/sexual identity illegal
I agree that it's a good decision and overdue... but... wouldn't get your hopes up on the 2nd thing with this court... most of those scholarships are privately funded. On what Constitutional grounds are they going to stop people from giving money to the students, charities, or organizations they wish to? They already ruled that corporate money = speech... so they would have to overturn themselves or strike down the 1st Amendment if they wanted to restrict who scholarships could give money to. The only state/federal aid for college students I think is dependent on how you fill out your FAFSA forms and that has to do with income... not sexual identity...
You are willfully ignoring the elephant in the room which is racism and its effervescent presence in both the law and in society. Honesty and facts matter.
basically make higher education available only to those whose parents can afford to house, clothe, feed and educate their children in the best schools? that's why we got affirmative action in the first place.
When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.
-Thomas Sowell
Seems someone is proudly standing back and standing by.
Honestly do people really think black folks with .3 GPAs were chosen over whites with 4.0s???
@@justtubing767yeah your local democrat masked goons running around scaring people. The kkk and patriot front are now proven to both be democrat activists creating a fear among the easily gullible.
@@justtubing767 Actually it sounds like someone knows their history.
Affirmative action was never preferential. It barely counteracted real discrimination. If a white guy couldn't get in, he wasn't qualified. AA was active my entire career, and I never lost a job opportunity to a "diversity hire." I also never worked with a black peer who wasn't equally competent.
I think it was Thomas Sowell, to paraphrase, “the most insidious racism is the soft bigotry of lowered expectations.”
Sowell Power!🎉🎉
Democratic mantra for the past half century with how they treat blacks and poc.
In 2011, Paul R. Allen, 55, of Oakton, Virginia, was sentenced to 40 months in prison after being convicted of fraud for participating in a $2.9 billion scheme that caused the mortgage and lending firm Taylor, Bean & Whitaker to go under. Two years earlier, Roy Brown, 54, a homeless African-American man, was sentenced to 15 years without the possibility of parole for robbing a bank in Shreveport, Louisiana. According to the scant reporting on the story, Brown only took $100 from the stack handed to him and told the teller he needed it because he was homeless and hungry.
If a prospective supreme court justice chooses 'I like beer' as a meaningful defense against rape accusations, how can you possibly lower academic expectations any further?
Thomas Sowell accepts bribes from oligarchs and was appointed by a Putin wannabe.
If they’re rolling back affirmative action then they should not factor “legacy” into admissions either...
I mean if it’s about the merits of the individual 🤷🏻♀️
I agree morally but there is nothing in the constitution or civil rights law which they could use to rule against that issue. That issue would need to be tackled by a legislature.
I think reparations are in order for the victims of the discriminatory practices of democrats.
So NOW you want it to be fair.
Typical.
Legacy is money .. don’t look for changes!!!
both AA and legacy admissions should be banned
Meritocracy plays a relatively small role in the current college admissions system, regardless of race-based affirmative action. You want meritocracy? Then ban legacy admissions, prevent rich people from donating their way into the dean’s lists, ignore unpaid internships in prestigious positions acquired through family networks. That’s just the start. Change the entire education system to ensure true equality of opportunity. Do not fund schools through local real estate taxes, make sure all kids have access to quality pre-k education, guarantee that all elementary, middle, and high schools have good teachers and adequate resources. Only after all of that may we start talking about meritocracy in college educations.
Plus this is the same f'ing court who goes, "Unless you go to the right Law School, don't even bother trying to clerk here"
all great ideas, affirmative action was a band aid at best, but now without that those communities will bleed.
Hit the nail on the head
Idc about any of that. The govt needs to quit paying for people to go to college while colleges raise their rates knowing the govt will pay.
Good luck getting secular society to define “good” and “quality”
If a person is rejected because of their race, it’s discrimination! What does feelings have to do with determining if something is constitutional or not?
How do you feel about a student getting in because of their parent being a donor?
it must be summer, CNN stoking the fire on the race war again, CBC in Canada doing the same
If you accept a person because of their race, it's discrimination!
What's your point?
@@FiggFig I think his point is your point
@@FiggFigyou simply don’t know or care about the history of this country.
I'm amazed the law clerks didn't take it upon themselves to leak this decision too.
It was clearly Sotamayor or her clerks.
Privilege is invisible to those who have it.
Yes AA is absolutely black privilege.
@@user-ke3to3rc1q Exactly. You made my point.
@@tejanoj3017😂😂😂😂 I see what you did there
@@tejanoj3017you make no sense....racism fixes racism? People that are dumb,have no idea how smart other people are!
@@user-ke3to3rc1q white people
What, we finally are making logical decisions at the highest levels, unreal.
Not really. Contrary to CNN's reporting, the Supreme Court still allows for the consideration of race in university admissions. Affirmative action is unfortunately here to stay.
Was it logical for white men for 350 years? Just bring a white male, def affirmative action. Know what I mean, bro? Of course you don’t.
@@rodm8113yes unfortunately the most under qualified white men got it for 350 years in housing and jobs…yes, it’s unfortunate.
@@criticaldan8579 This whole case started because Asians were being discriminated against
The policy of affirmative action dates to the Reconstruction Era in the United States, 1863-1877.[106] Current policy was introduced in the early 1960s in the United States, as a way to combat racial discrimination in the hiring process, with the concept later expanded to address gender discrimination.[107] Affirmative action was first created from Executive Order 10925, which was signed by President John F. Kennedy on 6 March 1961 and required that government employers "not discriminate against any employee or applicant for employment because of race, creed, color, or national origin" and "take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed and that employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin
People need to hear the truth
Yes, the truth of affirmative action x400 years vs 40, you’re correct.
@@4greendeep6 Stay focused boy, vets don’t think about Marxism….
@@4greendeep6 Dumbest person on the block…Fox is calling you bro. Hilarious.
@@4greendeep6Military veterans not veterinarians is what he means
@@animalanger He believes two wrongs make a right, and that a past injustice can only be made right if we inflict the same or more injustice on everyone but the previous victim. Yeah, I know, it makes no sense but there ya have it.
So allowing those with the best ability vs the favored group is wrong now? I thought MLK said to judge people not by the color of their skin but by their actions.
To be fair, MLK didn't actually believe that. He was a staunch supporter of racial quotas.
You obviously have no clue how affirmative action works.
You sound like one of those Alex Jones Sandy Hook nut bags 😂
White guys for 350 years qualified on color and gender? Yup! Gotcha
You should hear what MLK said to those ladies of the night when he was getting freaky in those cheap hotels. The FBI recorded it. He was a real freak between the sheets.
The thing is….
Overly qualified black folks were routinely looked over and bypassed entirely based upon melanin level….
Good grades did not matter.
Clarence Thomas is where he is because of affirmative action. That is all you conservatives need to know about the program.
Why is it even on the application as to what RACE a person is? Shouldn't there just be an anonymous applicant who has submitted their qualifications for entry into this 'esteemed' university? Why isn't education free for all to enjoy anyway?
@@user-ke3to3rc1q 😄This was not an option in the days when Angela Davis was teaching classes at U.C.L.A. 🕊
@@user-ke3to3rc1q Google it
everyone i know says that is a good idea, but no one knows why they ask.
Thank you, Trump, for appointing justices that follow that constitution. Affirmative action was just a rebranding of discrimination.
Keep this in mind year Maga troll. This SCOTUS set the new way for the SC.. ANY court at ANY time in history can now go back and look over any decision any court has made an over turn it. MEaning as SOON as there is a liberal majority SCOTUS, they can come back whenever they want and overturn these decisions. That would include anything to di with Gun control. Enjoy living with that fear the second we see 6 - 3 even 5 - 4 Majority Liberal judges.
Very well stated!
No. It wasn’t.
@hammill444 Colleges used race as a factor to determine who gets in and who doesn't . That is discrimination.
The constitution isn't the end all in modern society and this is a good example. It's not going to cover what happens when society is destabilized even further due to minority groups that fall even further behind. It takes landing on some people's front porch to get that.
Note that the Supreme Court's security detail has been doubled in advance of this decision.
It's almost like the nobles in the castle doubling the guard against the peasants.
Great - TWICE as many agents to try to compromise. Find the one with real finance difficulties and talk to Soros' kid for funding/leverage.
@@mgass1354Kinda like FJB on his inauguration. 😂
@@88badstang almost as if its a reactionary precaution based on the events from 14 days prior because a certain wannabe usurper tried to pull a coup attempt 🤔🤡
Oh and ps, you should probably go get that TDS checked out. Its not good for you 😢
Because the Racist do not like it. It’s against Racism and should be base merits.
Such a great and long overdue ruling. This has taken way to long.
Affirmative action is discrimination. This is the right decision.
Terrible. How dare they not allow them to base admissions on skin color instead of those most qualified. You want a free ride DO THE WORK!
It doesn’t matter what’s going on in the world. The main problem is that human slavery has never left and still here in a different way by us being born with a number aka social security number,go to school to train to be a slave in a good way and then work most of your life only for most of it to be taken out of your check leaving you little to get by to make you to make you keep working and if you’re retired,you soon won’t be anymore the way this world is going lol. If that’s not human trafficking/prostitution/human slavery,I don’t know what is🤣💀.
Kids in affluent areas have an inherent advantage. Remember the importance of ACT/SAT tests in college admissions? Middle-class kids take classes, paid for by parents, to boost their scores and get better scholarships and acceptance rates. You think poor parents and kids can afford those classes?
That's just one example.
Another is the abundance of opportunities available to kids in affluent areas to get involved. Not only are there more options, but other factors come into play. Extra-curricular activities are a lot easier to participate in when you aren't worried how figuring out how you're going to eat for the day.
Yt people just cry and make up ish
@@someoneElse4229 You didn't mention race once in your post, so what does the ruling have to do with any of that?
@@evage99 Minorities historically tend to not be middle class due to systemic racism.
Now post the drop out rates of African Americans/Hispanics etc in Universities the last 15 years. Why? because they were there mostly because of thier skin color.
Wonderful decision by the Supreme Court... and I say this as a staunch liberal.
If you want to build a strong nation,you do it with skills/talent not colour ,race or the group you belong to . All education, government jobs, private jobs placements should be on skills/talent if you want to grow a nation.
You know how many MORE qualified black people get overpassed for less qualified White people? Hell the maga crowd Kept saying Judge Brown was only appointed because she's a Black woman.. Funny, she's MORE qualified than EVERYONE ELSE on that bench. Yea. that happens.
That's definitely one side of the coin and it's valid. But you can't have a strong nation if it becomes more divided socially with different races falling even further behind. There's got to be a remedy there or it's a zero sum game.
@@BigBadJerryRogersaffirmative action will NEVER be the solution! They're those who will ALWAYS hold their hands out looking for someone to give them something!
Exactly!
That would be great in a country that didn't have explicit racism in it's founding document, have a civil war over racism, and have to pass major legislation only a few decades ago to deal with still existing racism. There probably isn't another major industrialized country on Earth that is so steeped in racism as the US.
There was a time when Europeans looked up to and envied the United States. That time is long gone. Who the hell wants to travel to the USA today, who wants to live there now (except distraught South Americans). The USA was once a country where I wanted to make long journeys. That desire is long gone. Poor, poor America.
This ruling is stopping Asians from being discriminated against because of their high scores
My kids are half asian half white. I am glad this ruling has occurred and will enable my son to have a FAIR chance to go to any good university in the USA.
Good. That way your kids can come up with the solution to other minority groups falling even further behind where they are now and the added deterioration of society resulting from this. We're going to need a lot of help.
@@BigBadJerryRogers Many minority groups thrive in the US, those who value education. Parents have to read to their children, and encourage their academic pursuits. You can't just turn on the TV, not read to your kids, then expect them to do well in school. AA has led to the deterioration of society. Ending this terrible practice will help heal the wounds it has caused. The next step is to take all competitive sports out of school. PE should consist of activities people can pursue alone, to maintain lifelong health benefits. Sports scholarships aren't given in other countries. That is why their colleges are more affordable, less money is wasted on sports.
@@deborahfreedman333 Too many parents simply are not fit to be parents and don't have that discipline and never will. Take competitive sports out of school eh? You don't really live in reality here, but you definitely have an opinion.
@@BigBadJerryRogers Affirmative action does not help anybody. It turns students who would have otherwise been successful into artificial failures. When a student in the 70th percentile of the country is accepted in a school whose average student is 80th percentile, that student is doomed to fail. This is what affirmative action does to minorities. It destroys their self-stem by admitting into programs they are not ready to succeed at. Affirmative action have lowered the higher education success rate of the Black community, it has not increased it. All for the sake of virtue signaling.
This is Thomas Sowell:
“Mismatching students with educational institutions is a formula for needless failures. The book "Mismatch," by Sander and Taylor is a first-rate study of the hard facts. It shows, for example, that the academic performances of black and Hispanic students rose substantially after affirmative action admissions policies were banned in the University of California system.
Instead of failing at Berkeley or UCLA, these minority students were now graduating from other campuses in the University of California system. They were graduating at a higher rate, with higher grades, and now more often in challenging fields like math, science and technology.”
Enough of this Diversity, equality and inclusion in America says the Supreme Court.
I had pretty much given up on our country years ago. Me and my family were victims of affirmative action when I worked in Minneapolis. Perhaps there is hope yet.
They should do this with public work next.
Completely impossible under a DNC administration.
Right... because we should only allow White men to get the contracts!
@@cynthiagonzalez537 What?
Exactly. The amount of businesses that openly hiring minorities (Specifically black people) because of their color to make the job "More diverse" is clear racism.
LET MILLIONS OF IMMIGRANTS COME TO AMERICA TO REVERSE THE MAJORITY INTO THE MINORITY
so amazing so great. its a beautiful day when they strike down affirmative action. hell yes.
Identity politics have to go out the window and people need to be judged on their own merits ideally also having equally good public schools to attend.
The money's there it's just in the wrong hands. You know the guys who are completely not oligarchs.
if that is the case, clarence isnt qualified to be the janitor for scotus
@@thewkovacs316Clarence had the grades. Don’t be ignorant.
@@richardbaker_0086 He barely had the grades, and was rated as just "qualified" and not "well qualified". by the ARA. Two members judged him as "not qualified"
@@richardbaker_0086 they were afraid to give a black man bad grades. afraid he was going to riot and burn the university down.
@@richardbaker_0086 he was an admitted drunk. how many drunk guys get good grades?
When it's convenient for him, Clarence Thomas is strict originalist who believes the Constitution must be interpreted only in the historical context of the time it was written. When it goes against the wishes of his wealthy patrons, however, he ignores the fact that the 14th Amendment was written in 1868, three years after the end of the Civil War, when "equal protection under the law" had to be spelled out to protect newly freed African Americans.
What is 14th? Confused
@@jasonfuchs4304 So the U.S. ratified its constitution in 1789 and afterward multiple amendments were passed. The 14th amendment was passed in 1868, after the United States fought a civil war against the slave-owning Confederate states of the south. You can pretty much look it up from there.
@@nychellebrewer literally did not need to look it up. You just did it for me. Thanks!! I am super lazy
Oh shit! So Democrats fought to keep slavery!!! Lol, no shit. We all know they suck already
your comment is nonsensical. Based on your logic, the contextual implication of the 14th Amendment means that "equal protection under the law" should only apply to African Americans.
I don't know why people think affirmative action and legacy admission are the same thing.
affirmative action = discriminate against asian and white on the basis of race = against the law
legacy admission = discriminate against lower class or people with less money = is not against law
Clarence Thomas said, during the Anita Hill hearings, that the only reason he got where he was was because of affirmative action provisions.
Clarence Thomas is bought and paid for. He can't celebrate Juneteenth as long as he's living under Massa Crow's roof.
Not true...
You meant to say Obama.
True, he was a mediocre student
And Thomas proves AA is bad?
Oh no! Having to choose students based on academics and character instead of skin color! Whatever will colleges do?!
They'll find a workaround.
Not be able to propagandize their students as easily anymore into Leftism.
@@seanembry6438 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Skin color was one of many factors, not the only, and removing the university’s ability to use it as a factor, reduces the university’s ability to build the best student body they can.
It’s always interesting when people say this yet 1/3 of Harvard acceptance are heritage ones far more than affirmative action acceptance😂 if you really cared for merit that’s what you would fight for
It's a good decision. You can't fight racial discrimination, by racially discriminating.
Why not? Racial discrimination was only a bad thing when it hurt someone. If it's helping someone, what is even wrong with it? You yts are all confused, concepts have clouded your vision from what's really important.
Finally , something I can agree with .
Thank you for letting the world know you're a racist.
Mark my words . Universities will formulate an " end around" to this. There's no way Admissions will let all that Talent go for naught.
For those who support affirmative action. How would you feel if NBA or other major sports league also try with this method? Asians are really under represented in those fields.
College is a waste out time and money!!! Stop believing you actually need a degree for a job. Unless you're gonna be a doctor or lawyer or something like that don't waste your time.
A Doctor is basically a Glorified Drug Pusher these Days...Invoke Woke...🤍🤍🤍💋
Now... for the first time in US history... every black graduate can walk tall and say....i ain't Kamala
now when will they stop the legacy and big donor admittance students ?..the way the underperforming trump got into wharton
It’s not about race. It’s about discrimination. Letting people into college based on race is the very definition of racism.
Wait…. Ummm letting people into college’s because they are smart is discrimination and racism.
No wait! Letting Asians into college because they are smarter than everyone else isn’t fair because they don’t need college because they are already smart.
WAIT!!!!
It must feel weird to a lot of ppl that we finally have a court making decisions based on the constitution and not on politics.
But it's ok to get into school cause your parents went there or they donate to the school I guess that's still ok
@@kevinbundybundy4199 yes. Because they aren't using race as a factor.
@@kevinbundybundy4199 That is not ok, but what do you expect from a left leaning organization?
A fair decision after 50 years. Now, if they can get a handle on DEI for those ESG credit scores.
It's a sad day when people are attacking diversity, equity, and inclusion. Basically, they're saying not those people, we're not equal, and I don't want you here. Wearing a hood and burning a cross on a lawn will drive the point on home.
It’s about time. Qualification is only thing that should be considered. Now take race off the application and dump legacy.
Aristotle has given the answer 2.500 years before:The worst form of inequality is to try make unequal things equal.
He also said Democracy was a scam
@@milkmanx Good thing we're not a democracy
Lmao
@@milkmanx Never said that.He said there is no ideal polity for the people wich is completely different.He also said that democracy has flaws but he never rejected democratical governance.
Socrates taught Plato who taught Aristotle. They all went to "university" in Africa (Egypt) for over a decade. I don't think they graduated.
But they are the pillars of "Western Civilization". The Greeks were seen as children, educationally, by the Egyptians. Thus, Aristotle went to Africa to learn and "make unequal things equal".
Three thousand years after Egypt began and Rome was the new power, the northern Europeans were seen as barbarians by the Romans. Much has changed in 2000 years.
Affirmative action was needed for "fixing" past wrongs and discrimination against Black people.
Asians got their affirmative action in Asia when America economically fixed their nations after bombing them "into the stone age".
As America prepares for war in Asia (against China) getting into Harvard will not be their biggest problem.
Only a narcissist like Thomas could think that ending affirmative action is a step towards racial equality. He would never have been able to.hold.the position he now enjoys were it not for affirmative action. In his narcissistic mind him being thought of as having been helped along or less than was enough to ruin it for all the young minds that unlike him might have made a positive contribution to society. When I think of Thomas I'm reminded of that character in the Django movie.Leonardo Decaprios black butler. He's nothing but a excuse my french house N!!!!
If they truly believe there’s no need for this, they would have also taken it away from the military colleges.
Those are next
Black robes Matter... -)
Thank god they made the right decision . All men , equal under the constitution .
Imagine fighting so hard to end systematic racism then the Supreme Court dismantles the only systematic racism left in our society and you are upset. What a weird time to be alive. >.>
Not the only systemic racism left. There are still plenty of jobs that discriminate, and hire less qualified candidates, based upon race. Look at the VP.
@@deborahfreedman333I see racists are out in full force today. At least try to hide it a bit, unless you know, shamelessness.
@@deborahfreedman333 Racial discrimination is literally everywhere. Our system is based on discrimination. Just because people refuse to look and WANT to remain ignorant, does not mean the it does not exist. Yes, that last bit was directed at you. Cheers.
People harp on "systemic racism" as if it is still 1940. As if zero progress has been made. Frankly, the American culture has moved on from the excessiveness of many "progressives".
I looked at pictures of the graduating class of my alma mater (University of Virginia) and the graduates were predominantly women and POC. I didn't see a white male face anywhere. That seems unusual to me, given the demographics of Virginia.
Maybe affirmative Action has gone far? Maybe the DEI departments are overstepping? Maybe America already HAS erased the systemic racism blockades of the past? Maybe Affirmative Action was a good idea for its time, and now it is done?
@@middleway5271 Rubbish. Everything looks like a nail to a hammer. People like you are over-examining everything, and "finding" racism where it really doesn't exist. Evert little thing is a "micro aggression".
It’s time for the supreme court judges to only do four years and have to be reelected just like the president.
Populist run amok. No thanks.
The judicial branch is the third independent leg of government. You don’t understand how our country has worked for over two hundred years. Educate yourself please.
Estonia, a nation of two million people, has 19 justices on their Supreme Court and age limits (too old and they're out).
Only CNN would be disappointed that racism can’t be used to ‘fight’ racism
As an Asian, I approve this ruling.
Ultimately, while I support the idea of wanting more diverse colleges the reality is many of these colleges have had decades to find new ways to achieve diversity without relying so much on affirmative action. Instead, they have spent all that time doing nothing while hoping that affirmative action would be around forever. As a result I now fully expect to see a decline in collge admaisssion among many minority stundents across this country and these colleges have no one to blame for that but themselves since they could have easily prepared for an outcome like this decades ago....
Colleges admit people based on a wide range of things. Where are the stats on students admitted based solely on affirmative action?
@@allieannette3712 Some scientists swear they can cure you from schizophrenia with a lobotomy , problem is they can not guarantee you that you'll be cured----this conservative supreme court justices, are the equivalent of those scientists, and they just performed a lobotomy on America....
I don't see how it's only the colleges to blame, it's systemic starting from birth. What do people of all races have to overcome to get to the college, that's the only way to look at it.
Diversity should be based on skill sets, education level or positions and beliefs. Whith these people they only use race, gender, or ethnicity to define diversity which relies on stereotypes that each race have the same life experience and assign it greater importance the more it can be intersectionalized with victim groups.
@@CBEACHMEDIAThere is SHOULD and then there is REALITY! WHITE SUPREMACY AND FASCISM IS WINNING WITH THIS COURT IN PLACE!
A GREAT day for America!
Democrats haven’t been this mad since the slaves were freed.
To end racial discrimination we must stop discriminating on the basis of race.
Nothing on the biden family scandal😅
Okay, now do legacy admissions.
Sue a university. Nothing just appears before the supreme court.
The court ended this systemic racism. Thankyou!
As a Hispanic, I agree 100% with the Supreme Court's decision. NOBODY should get special treatment based on skin color.
Most of us should admit~~ some people are smarter and more innovative than others (not becaue of race but we as human beings). Then the school shall select the best candidates to enrol in their programs ~ based on their merits academically, socially or contribution to their communities. 😊
Except we know the “merits” used to calculate that are stacked against racial minorites. SATs are based in eugenics, grades/school systems are based in money and a sprinkle of racism, and have little to do with how talented or intelligent a person is.
@@illegalturtleeVery racist of you to admit that testing academia is a disadvantage to certain racial groups. And that we need to change the system for their weaknesses
@@illegalturtleeracist
Intelligence isn't actually a single or simple quantity.
A good day for meritocracy, and a bad day for the racist view of soft expectations.
RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY WILL NOT END BUT THE DECISION IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I DON'T FREAKING UNDERSTAND WHY KAGAN, JACKSON AND SOTOMAYOR DISSENTED TO THE CASE.
Because they’re liberals and they suffer from modern day liberalism which is nothing more than emotionalism minus any logic.
I will assume you mean that as a joke
Ironic that the poster child (Thomas) for Affirmative Action wrote the ruling
Ironic or not, the fundamental truth that it is wrong to make decisions based on race.
Cope
proof?
@@IAND-wg8fq proof:the process or an instance of establishing the validity of a statement especially by derivation from other statements in accordance with principles of reasoning
@@zaurakdigis so you got nothing. As usual LOL.
Did justice Thomas who is Afro-Americanreceive race-based points to get into grad school and did he vote for this aggrieved ruling? Would he vote against preferential treatment of sons of wealthy donors?
The USSC's irrationally aggrieved ruling elevates the values of the anti-woke and the politically incorrect crowd.
Skin color must never be what qualifies you for the job...
. . . SINCE THE DEAD ARE TO BE JUDGED OUT OF THE THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOKS , IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT THE SINS OF MEN SHOULD BE BLOTTED OUT UNTIL AFTER THE JUDGEMENT AT WHICH THEIR CASES ARE TO BE INVESTIGATED . . .
I wish people would stop quoting MLK only when it fit their narrow and self serving views.
Quoting King but not reading his work in its entirety is foolish and lazy.
A case selected for argument usually involves interpretations of the U. S. Constitution or federal law. At least four Justices have selected the case as being of such importance that the Supreme Court must resolve the legal issues.
An attorney for each side of a case will have an opportunity to make a presentation to the Court and answer questions posed by the Justices. Prior to the argument each side has submitted a legal brief-a written legal argument outlining each party’s points of law. The Justices have read these briefs prior to argument and are thoroughly familiar with the case, its facts, and the legal positions that each party is advocating.
Beginning the first Monday in October, the Court generally hears two one-hour arguments a day, at 10 a.m. and 11 a.m., with occasional afternoon sessions scheduled as necessary. Arguments are held on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays in two-week intervals through late April (with longer breaks during December and February). The argument calendars are posted on the Court’s Website under the "Oral Arguments" link. In the recesses between argument sessions, the Justices are busy writing opinions, deciding which cases to hear in the future, and reading the briefs for the next argument session. They grant review in approximately 80 of the more than 5,000-7,000 petitions filed with the Court each Term. No one knows exactly when a decision will be handed down by the Court in an argued case, nor is there a set time period in which the Justices must reach a decision. However, all cases argued during a Term of Court are decided before the summer recess begins, usually by the end of June.
During an argument week, the Justices meet in a private conference, closed even to staff, to discuss the cases and to take a preliminary vote on each case. If the Chief Justice is in the majority on a case decision, he decides who will write the opinion. He may decide to write it himself or he may assign that duty to any other Justice in the majority. If the Chief Justice is in the minority, the Justice in the majority who has the most seniority assumes the assignment duty.
Great comment.
Whats your point? They still can be bias and pick what their benefactors tell them too. It don’t mean they doing whats in the best interest of everyone. Like they took on that case of the web designer and come to find out the man never hired her, he is a web designer himself, straight and married. No one ever contacted this man. So they pushed an agenda through and never investigated or contacted the other person. These 4 justices are not fully qualified to be on the Supreme court, especially the ones who never tried any case in court. People conveniently ignoring the fact that they didn’t earn their right to be on the highest court they was put there because of politics. Its just as bad as the legacy students who are not academically qualified but can be admitted to a university.
SCOTUS got this one right! 👍💯🇺🇸
No they didn't.
No they didn't
@@pyroblast3000 Cry losers cry! 🤣🤣🤣 We see who the real racists are with this judgement. Funny how democrats see skin color as being so important. When skin color is the least interesting part of anyone!
@@keepingit8797 Well the thing is Affirmative action wasn't all about race. It was extended to gender also. Which is why the biggest recipients of AA are white women. It's sad people like you like to "win" but what have you won? You've won nothing, just took away something from someone else. All the facts show that diversity in all levels of schools make better schools. I see people like you, don't care about facts...just care about the other side crying...congrats.
Vote for Biden in November 2024 or he is the President untill January 2030
College admissions should be based on talent rather than race!
that was one of the problems... there was a time a black couldn't get into a good collage because they were black, even if they had the talent
It is a good decision by the Supreme Court. God bless America!
The truth is as a parent of children of color, we always have told them they have to work harder to achieve the same goals as those of no color. So, this action simply helps my point. God says what people may do with intentions of harming others he will use to strengthen instead.
I'm also a person of color and told my children not to make excuses. They have the same opportunities as any other child regardless of skin color.
Are you saying the justices in the majority decision here had "intentions of harming others"?
Also, should Asian parents tell their children they have to work harder to make the same achievements as African-Americans?
So you believe that being given special privilege because of your race means you actually "have to work harder" to achieve the same goals?
Unbelievable how easy it is to get a lie accepted as fact simply by repeating it constantly.
You are right with that. Your son has to work harder than my son to achieve what he has achieved. Even if they are in the same school.
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.” - MLK 🇺🇲
Military was mentioned here but in fact, the majority ruled that diversity in military leadership is necessary. (Which effectively negates the stated purpose of the ruling.) Gee, I wonder why they want diversity in the military but not in education…
You shall overcome what exactly, Ms. Sotomayor? Activism in the Supreme Court.
The liberal justices are easily as much 'activist judges' as Thomas and Alito. If they were all Democrat picks they'd all vote liberal 100% of the time. Atleast the conservative judges practice SOME measure of objectivity.
@@joet7136 yes, they showed tremendous objectivity when taking gifts (bribes) from wealthy conservative businessmen.
@@joet7136when thier owners allow 😂
@@michaeldawson4995 oh of course, Democrats are above all that.
@@joet7136 Some of the Conservative justices are totally objective. The liberal ones are activists through and through. Just read their utterances especially when they're on the losing side of a decision. You could imagine them throwing their clenched fists up in the air.
I’ve gotta admit that without President Trump’s SC appointments, this ruling to end institutional racism in colleges would not have been possible.
The reason this ruling came about was discrimination. That surely hasn't gone away! Now the rich can buy their child's college ed. w/o any barriers. We'll see
No this is what you call backwards racism... ain't nobody stupid. I got two Five star grandson being recruited outta high school. Both will go to a HBC... along with many of their friends. See we learning😏
Exactly. Most of these decisions are due to trumps appointments this is the reason conservatives wanted a conservative supreme court to roll back all progress in America.
@@williambowers8042 are you suggesting that blacks can’t succeed in a merit-based system?
Democrats outraged colleges can no longer admit students based on their skin color….
Imagine my shock
About time, lets judge people on the content of their hearts and not of their skin color.
That's why we had Affirmative Action because "we" were judging people on the color of their skin and they weren't getting in. "We" still have Affirmative Action though.
It’s because we don’t judge by the heart that we needed affirmative action ! White supremacy and fascism just got a big win!
@@williammartinez840Exactly!! It amazes me how stupid and ignorant people are of that.
This is something that you will never see CNN or MSNBC broadcast this story we need to protect our babies 🙏🙏🙏
*We've had affirmative action for 50 years! Time to move in! Even the late justice Sandra Day O'Connor foresaw the day when it would no longer be justified or needed! Maybe now black students will take time to work and study harder knowing they won't have that crutch to lift them over more deserving people!*
And what u just stated is racist. But u knew that, that's why u said it! 😆
This is awesome!! 👍
Next on the agenda: Six christofascists on Scotus will consider the 13th amendment as unconstitutional.
This doesn't concern you Europeans.
How much do they pay you to make yourself look ignorant on UA-cam?
Umm Sorry, but we should judge people by their merit and character not skin color or religion. Only a fascist would disagree..
Grab a rifle and head east Jewkriane needs the help
@@IronskullGMthat would be nice, but affirmative action exists to attempt to undo the damage done by racism.
Finally racist laws are gone🎉
God bless the Supreme Court
Great news for America
Article 35 of China's 🇨🇳 Constitution says:
"Citizens shall enjoy freedom of speech, the press, assembly association, procession and demonstration."
- Is this a joke?
culture is important, some societies exercise the same rights you have with quiet dignity...
@@D-E-S_8559 You mean from prison for speaking out of turn? Go back to China bot.
I always think that university is a place for pursuing academic excellence, why race should be a factor at all. This is particularly so in the field of STEM.
it's a factor because we suppressed an entire race through slavery and segregation for centuries. now, we can overtly discriminate against minorities again.
But it Does per history in the form of discriminatory admission processes! Now the floodgates of inequity are wide open!!!!
@@Soapboxstomper No, the floodgates of inequality have been closed. It doesn't matter who is being oppressed, and who advantaged, racial discrimination is always wrong.
@osamabinladenssecondgirlfr4241 When does this end? When can people of color stand on their own? 20 years 100 years 1000 years??? Should the guy with the crutches be using them 20 years after his knee is fully healed? At that point arn't those crutches just holding him back? Has he not become a life long victim of his own reduced exptations? The time has come for change. The time has come to throw away the clutches and stand on one's own feet. You need to stop living in the past.
@@Soapboxstomper Exactly, it's disturbing how the narrative got changed and the very thing created to fight discrimination has become villianized.
Affirmative action, while wildly abused, was a good thing and it brought a lot of deserving people into places they deserved to be. It also helped a lot of people out of poverty. Our current Supreme Court is corrupt and abusive and there are at least three members on it deserving of prosecution and imprisonment.
Yes sir. Accepting and/or rejecting people soley based off skin color is truly deserving.
Did you know that affirmative action is unconstitutional and always has been when it comes to college admissions! Martin Luther King would have loved this decision! Politician Democrats use this for political reasons just as they use people of color racism! I am glad Joe Biden and the Democrats are angry that means it must be good for the country
Sotomayor’s dissent had nothing to do with law or the Constitution. She made a strictly emotional defense of her position. Dictionary definition of an activist judge.
Yup
This is a good day for Asian Americans! Congrats to all my fellow Asians in America. This is the essence of socialism, fairness!
With no party affiliation, I support this decision - it's time we put more weight into CDC Adverse Childhood Event scoring /ACE scores rather than than color/race/ethnicity. It is time to get away from that and use more holistic criteria !! I wish we had more ACE scoring which could trigger early interventions and perhaps this would benefit society vs. outdated risk models based on race, color, ethnicity. So much human potential is wasted because some people, no matter how gifted, have no safety net, no support system/family/mentors, and no special privilege/ treatment such as this outdated affirmative action criteria, athletic scholarships, or legacy admissions.
Race should not be a factor. If you want to overpay for an education at an ivy league school, go to community college, get all As and then apply - two years of a great quality education at a reasonable price followed by two years of expensive education - same degree and prestige.
It doesn’t matter what’s going on in the world. The main problem is that human slavery has never left and still here in a different way by us being born with a number aka social security number,go to school to train to be a slave in a good way and then work most of your life only for most of it to be taken out of your check leaving you little to get by to make you to make you keep working and if you’re retired,you soon won’t be anymore the way this world is going lol. If that’s not human trafficking/prostitution/human slavery,I don’t know what is🤣💀.
Doesn’t work that way most of the time unfortunately
Good for John Roberts. Soto-Mayor reads equal treatment as giving some unequal advantages.
Getting admitted into a college should be based off of merits. Not the color of ones skin, just to try and have "diversity".
college is opportunity, the students still had to meet the expectations. requirements were not reduced for minorities, they were just told they needed to keep space open for them.
@@sebcw1204
Well that's still wrong then. How does that not contradict the Civil Rights Act? Should be no race based college admissions. If they didn't know the kids race, they'd all be picked fairly.
Martin Luther King Jr. "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
look up what he said about reparations.
@@sebcw1204 unless he said "oh wait a minute, on 2nd thought, judge me by the color of my skin cause I need to get paid"... then it's irrelevant to the comment and this decision.
@@sebcw1204reparations they'll never get 😂
Stop using Martin Luther King Jr. For your comment! Use #45 instead.
The only line You all remember.. the I have a dream.. you have ZERO clue what else he said, fuck off.
I hate it when any document asks me what my race is. It shouldn't matter into anything
The policy of affirmative action dates to the Reconstruction Era in the United States, 1863-1877.[106] Current policy was introduced in the early 1960s in the United States, as a way to combat racial discrimination in the hiring process, with the concept later expanded to address gender discrimination.[107] Affirmative action was first created from Executive Order 10925, which was signed by President John F. Kennedy on 6 March 1961 and required that government employers "not discriminate against any employee or applicant for employment because of race, creed, color, or national origin" and "take affirmative action to ensure that applicants are employed and that employees are treated during employment, without regard to their race, creed, color, or national origin"
Martin Luther King would have loved the Supreme Court's decision
Well it's going to affect everyone else now, not just only black people.
@terryharker6726 MLK lead us into a burning building, we were better off as a people with our own. Even with our own, they still find a way to drop bombs on our heads and destroy our towns. When we try to lift our selves, they sabotage us becUse believe it or not there us still racism and discrimination today. You think racist white ppl for 400 years suddenly change over. Night, it's going to back fire on these Asians l, watch.
And now that will all change. If anyone believes there's no racism in today's world ,they are either stupid or naive.
@@Dem0stumblers6726 I hardly doubt it. During MLK'S time there was zero equality regarding the black population.
Kind of the same as why take it to court, when the court is corrupted?
Pick me because of my skin color over someone who's actually qualified, racist Democrats.
The Supreme Court made the right decision
@@Myers70 Well I'm white your white, of course you think that?
Bravo! A great day~
This has given me more hope in American politics than I’ve had in almost a decade. This is SO OVERDUE ❤❤ next step is to make scholarships based on race/gender/sexual identity illegal
I agree that it's a good decision and overdue... but... wouldn't get your hopes up on the 2nd thing with this court... most of those scholarships are privately funded. On what Constitutional grounds are they going to stop people from giving money to the students, charities, or organizations they wish to? They already ruled that corporate money = speech... so they would have to overturn themselves or strike down the 1st Amendment if they wanted to restrict who scholarships could give money to. The only state/federal aid for college students I think is dependent on how you fill out your FAFSA forms and that has to do with income... not sexual identity...
You are willfully ignoring the elephant in the room which is racism and its effervescent presence in both the law and in society. Honesty and facts matter.
Anonymous applications would be ideal, no names, race gender, etc things might change
@@Seriouslydave not in the way you hope it would.
basically make higher education available only to those whose parents can afford to house, clothe, feed and educate their children in the best schools?
that's why we got affirmative action in the first place.