@@HeyGrouch No problem man! But yeah that's a good way to put it. I'm definitely gonna be downloading this game in a minute, and chances are I'll make a video on it--it looks super dope. Everything you spoke about in this video regarding freedom and lack of restriction speaks to me as both a content creator and as a TF2 veteran with the FPS skills of a toddler. Good reviews are coming your way
@@HeyGrouch I just thought of something that would be pretty hard to implement but would be really cool. What if you could grapple your rockets? Either pulling them into you to do some midair rocket jumps or pulling yourself to them if they were some sort of hookpoint.
This video is some of your best work, all the jokes were fast, hard-hitting and dare I say - intellectual. That "finishing in 15 seconds has never been so fun" killed me. 10/10
Aw thanks man, that's really great to hear :) I'm really happy with how it turned out! You should see the jokes I cut out... They were not hard hitting or smart at all lol. I had a 30 second "road work ahead" joke in the original cut I had to delete from existence
Have you played Cyber Hook? I think you'd like it. It has a really good and intuitive hook system and the goal of the game is to go as fast as you can. I think there's a free demo on Steam but I'm not sure.
Aha found the video on the platformer! The changing projects constantly is a big mood! I think i figured out what was bugging me so much with the lightning. It looks fine with short distances, but long distances you teleport so far it feels disorienting. Less like a ground pound and more like teleporting elsewhere. An alternative would be storing the velocity, stopping all momentum, launch downwards at super speed with electric partical trail, once landed set velocity to stored value. Maybe with an additional bounce upwards from smacking into the ground.
played the game and it was very fun even though I only got to level 8 on world 1 lol even for a newbie like me I still had some pretty cool moments where I blast across the map at super speeds so that was nice and fun hope to see more of this!
Talking about how 2d platformers always put caps on speed and how you want one that doesn't and your only limit is how fast the player wants, just made me think of Pizza Tower lol.
@@HeyGrouchthey very well couldve made it swing, but they didnt because quakes threewave (the mode mannpowers based on) didnt have a grappling hook that let you swing bind the hook to an easier button and press space as soon as you grapple onto something and start going forward, this makes the hook disconnect and give you a ton of forward momentum combine that tech with constantly grappling on a different surface and you get a ton on speed, the mannpower hook has insane depth bro
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 I had the hook bound to M2, and it was really fun to do that tech! But at that point it feels less like a grappling hook and more just like a mid-air speed boost
Really great vid, you shold really play ultrakill btw, it has all of those and it lets you punch your own bullets to make you go faster(the grapple is straight tho)
Dude I was literally thinking about a potential game exactly like this yesterday! Really cool to see you analyzing what makes games fun to move in! A potential idea I had was the grappling hook being able to latch onto and reel in the rockets themselves. If you were above like a massive pit, you could shoot a rocket down, grapple onto it, move a bit to the side, and when it hits you, it sends you flying, essentially rocket jumping off of the literal air. Could be a good idea for advanced movement tech.
the 10000th video talking about wonky movement mechanics + tf2 immediate good video and holy crapoly that part about starting a project and then making a new one and never going anywhere hurt me in my soul
Bungee jumping already exists in TF2. Some jump servers (Jump Academy) let you bungee as Spy (bind mouse4 "+bungee") . jump_spy101 is a map made for that, here's a playthrough as Soldier. ua-cam.com/video/ZEej5aAIT4E/v-deo.htmlsi=lFrOxzPwvR9zr_mX
One of the better grappling hooks I’ve experienced is from a game called Worlds Adrift. It’s from Bossa Studios, the same folks that made Surgeon Simulator. The game’s defunct now, online only with servers that are no longer running, but the grappling hook functioned a lot like the Titanfall one. The main differences being (aside from unlimited use) that it gave you full control over the rope’s extension and retraction, and also had a launching mechanic that would instantly unhook the rope and give you a bit of extra propulsion in the direction you’re facing.
Very very cool concept. I think Rusted Moss does this too (Not with all weapons though, but it still does happen, and oh it also has a rocket launcher as well). With the addition of an elastic rope. Though it does also focus on combat... unlike you where you specifically focus on the movement and traversal, and maximum momentum manipulation. Have you heard of this game? Oh right, I wasn't trying to shit on your game, just drawing similarities, I really really like your approach!! well done! Edit: I was just surprised you didn't mention Rusted Moss, so that's why I'm asking if you even know it exists or not. I'd highly recommend playing this game, it's very satisfying!
No offense taken! It's crazy you bring up Rusted Moss- I played the demo a while ago before the full version released! The crazy part is that the developer made a prototype back in 2018 called "Rocketjump Mountain" that helped inspire Thunder Jumper!! Small world
i'm making a little movement game myself and some of the things you've said here (mainly: "wave of momentum", and talking about how long your levels are) have just made a few things click in my head and I wanna thank you for that xD still haven't started doing the first level. I am terrified.
That's awesome! And I don't blame you for being terrified- level design is legitimately the scariest thing in all of game development, at least for me anyways 😅 What helped me was to "copy" levels from other games to see how they play with my own mechanics. For instance I put a few Super Meat Boy levels in my first prototype just to see how they would play, and they ended up being pretty fun even though Thunder Jumper moves nothing like Meat Boy!
Game sort of reminds me of kick shot on steam which has rocket jumping, wall running, grapple hook, and auto bunny hopping in 3D levels. Sadly only like 15 levels mostly under 15 seconds if you know what your doing. Still spent over 20 hours to get good times though. Awesome video and jokes. Can’t wait to see more.
Ever play the spiderman 2 movie game? Still to this day has the best swing mechanics ive ever played and has actual engagement unlike insomniacs. The speed and momentum are perfect and require skill to pull off.
I just wanted to say that I found a couple glitches that I can compile into one big glitch. Rockets don’t despawn even if you press g, so you could beat levels with 0 seconds by pressing g before the rocket hits the goal and you can make the clock start later by boosting without pressing anything (if you hold d while restarting the timer doesn’t start, and space doesn’t start the timer at all)
I think calling it rocket jumping centers it a bit too much on being a movement utility only for rocket launchers, and personally i think the term "Blast Jumping" fits it better. Raze in Valorant is the perfect example of this. Sure she does have a rocket launcher, but that's not something she can use for blast jumping. Instead, she has her little blast packs have the ability to propel her. Even in TF2 you have the same thing, via things like Cannon Jumping with the Loose Cannon, or just sticky jumping in general as Demoman.
Talking about speed running 2D platforming without mentioning Sonic even once was either the hardest possible challenge that Grouch imposed on himself, or it's just the biggest letdown in video game essay history.
I wanted to talk about Sonic so badly- you can probably tell I based a lot of the art in the game around Sonic! I just personally have very little experience with those games, so it felt like it'd be disingenuous to force myself to have an opinion on Sonic just for the video
You might be right. I was reading an article about how the game tricks you into thinking it's 3D when all the physics are actually 2D, which is why there aren't any overlapping floors in the game. I guess it might come down to semantics at the end of the day, idk- I've never programmed a game engine OR a rendering engine so I'm out of my depth here :P
This is really entertaining, thank you : ) Your editing style and comedy is great, at least for an autistic clown like me, so keep up the good work, I hope you make more!
Haha, I had a joke in the original script about that :P Good eye for noticing! I've thought about making a video called "The Other TF2" where I just gush about how cool Titanfall is
okay but there's something to shoot right? you didnt build a THUD gun and LIGHTNING hook, built for electrocution, in a "GET OVER HEEEERE" type of fashion to not have anything or anyone to use it on right?
I already commented on the video but I wanted to separate my compliments comment from lengthy genuine question comment: What are your tips for this kind of “no-limits” platformer design? I’m currently making my own 2d-platformer that also has a focus on speed, agility, and momentum, but it’s my first ever actual game so I’m pretty new to game design. Any tips concerning mechanics, level/area/world design, enemies, etc?
Great question! By far the MOST IMPORTANT thing in ALL of game development is playtesting. You want to follow what is called an "iterative" design approach, where you get a playable game in front of people as quickly as possible. This first "iteration" would be a rough prototype of mechanics with only 1 real level. Art and sound doesn't matter here. What matters is seeing how other people play your game and hearing from their lips what is fun and what is frustrating. If 4/5 playtesters tell you something isn't fun- they're right. If they tell you how to make it more fun- they're probably wrong. Playtesters always know what's wrong, but almost never know how to actually fix it. That's your job as a game designer! Once you've heard from 5-10 people on what's good and bad about your first iteration, you can start work on iteration 2. Once you've finished fixing the problems you discovered during the first playtests, it's time to maybe add a level or two that builds on what you've learned, and then time for more playtests! Just for perspective- my Thunder Jumper demo is roughly iteration 6 or 7 (and I'm still not done iterating!). The more iterations you have, the more refined of an experience you'll be making. Rules for playtesting: Always watch them play. Never criticize how they play, or tell them they're bad at the game (it's more likely that the game is bad than that they're bad at it, sadly). Try to simulate an authentic play experience as if you weren't there- which means no telling them how to do things! If you have to tell playtesters how to do something, that's a problem that needs fixing! I hope this helps :) As for specific mechanics, level design, and enemies, that's all just different flavors of gameplay. A good designer could make a fun game out of just about anything!
errrm actually spiderman 2 has a slider that makes the webslinging feel like spiderman. the slider is called web assist and its on max by default, the lower it is the more like spiderman it feels
@@HeyGrouch i don't either😔, but i did see gameplay with the web assist off and it looks cool. while its not something you can aim it isn't like you go straight forward like the first game, where the web is very much effects which side you're being pulled towards and i think thats neat
@@HeyGrouch Yes but you lose a lot of movement mechanics by sticking to 2D. Air Strafing, Trimping, and Bunnyhopping are all techniques exclusive to 3D...
Rocket jumping is sincerely my favorite video game mechanic of all time. This is a good video.
Thanks Shibacki! The rocket jump has always been my favorite game mechanic, it feels more like flying to me than other actual flying mechanics
@@HeyGrouch No problem man! But yeah that's a good way to put it. I'm definitely gonna be downloading this game in a minute, and chances are I'll make a video on it--it looks super dope. Everything you spoke about in this video regarding freedom and lack of restriction speaks to me as both a content creator and as a TF2 veteran with the FPS skills of a toddler. Good reviews are coming your way
Personally its the coin shot in specifically ULTRAKILL, but im currently too lazy to explain why
ah man.... :-')
Banger video, Grouch. Playing Thunder Jumper really made me feel like a puppet trapped in my friend's closet.
WAKE UP
@@HeyGrouchGRAB A BRUSH AND PUT A LITTLE MAKEUP
Who would've thought that mixing TF2's rocket jumping with TF2's grappling hook would work so well in a 2D game
All three of those things have "2" in them, so maybe it's a magic number
@@HeyGrouch Three? Did someone say 3? TF3 confirmed guys!
@@HeyGrouch I just thought of something that would be pretty hard to implement but would be really cool.
What if you could grapple your rockets? Either pulling them into you to do some midair rocket jumps or pulling yourself to them if they were some sort of hookpoint.
@@jadsoncaua5939 I like the idea! I'll play around with it
@@jadsoncaua5939Ultrakill-style rocket ride.
This video is some of your best work, all the jokes were fast, hard-hitting and dare I say - intellectual. That "finishing in 15 seconds has never been so fun" killed me.
10/10
Aw thanks man, that's really great to hear :) I'm really happy with how it turned out!
You should see the jokes I cut out... They were not hard hitting or smart at all lol. I had a 30 second "road work ahead" joke in the original cut I had to delete from existence
Combined tf2 and tf2 mechanics damn
🤔🤔🤔
Just about to comment that
Have you played Cyber Hook? I think you'd like it. It has a really good and intuitive hook system and the goal of the game is to go as fast as you can. I think there's a free demo on Steam but I'm not sure.
I've seen the trailer, I can't believe I didn't notice it had a free demo! I'll definitely be playing that
you can thunder my jumper any time
Nice to see your game development content returning!
Thanks!! Hopefully I'm good enough at making videos now to make it entertaining :)
rocket jump and webslinging is a good idea
Glad you think so :)
reminds me a lot of teeworlds (or DDNet), that game has both rocket jumping and grappling and the movement has a really high skill ceiling
Used to play that game a lot on my shitty laptop and it was really fun
Wasn’t considering playing it till I heard about the 6 hour revolutionary war themed level.
I was only half joking 🤫🤐
Aha found the video on the platformer! The changing projects constantly is a big mood!
I think i figured out what was bugging me so much with the lightning. It looks fine with short distances, but long distances you teleport so far it feels disorienting. Less like a ground pound and more like teleporting elsewhere.
An alternative would be storing the velocity, stopping all momentum, launch downwards at super speed with electric partical trail, once landed set velocity to stored value. Maybe with an additional bounce upwards from smacking into the ground.
thunder jumper GOTY
Shooting for GOTM (Game of The Millennium), but GOTY is a good fallback
played the game and it was very fun even though I only got to level 8 on world 1 lol
even for a newbie like me I still had some pretty cool moments where I blast across the map at super speeds so that was nice and fun
hope to see more of this!
Thanks for playing! And don't worry, that's the last level of the demo :P
10:20@@HeyGrouch
Grouch made one of the best games ever Ong
standing on the shoulders of giants 🥂
nice
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Talking about how 2d platformers always put caps on speed and how you want one that doesn't and your only limit is how fast the player wants, just made me think of Pizza Tower lol.
this man mixed tf2 and tf2 and it worked
😤🔥
Okay don't diss the grappling hook in tf2 like that. You should see what crazy shit people do in that gamemode.
I was playing around with it for the video and had a lot of fun! It's better than nothing :P But I wish it would "swing" instead of just b-lining you
@@HeyGrouchthey very well couldve made it swing, but they didnt because quakes threewave (the mode mannpowers based on) didnt have a grappling hook that let you swing
bind the hook to an easier button and press space as soon as you grapple onto something and start going forward, this makes the hook disconnect and give you a ton of forward momentum
combine that tech with constantly grappling on a different surface and you get a ton on speed, the mannpower hook has insane depth bro
@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 I had the hook bound to M2, and it was really fun to do that tech! But at that point it feels less like a grappling hook and more just like a mid-air speed boost
This guy gets it.@@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
Fun fact: In the comics Aberham Lincoln invented the rocket jump, also he was the first pyro the Mann brothers hired
Oh cool! I really need to read those comics
Really great vid, you shold really play ultrakill btw, it has all of those and it lets you punch your own bullets to make you go faster(the grapple is straight tho)
I love ultrakill!! I've only played the demo tho
обожаю рокет джамп, обожаю хук, обожаю 200 рублес. 10/10!
I love rocket jump, I love hook, I love 200 rubles. 10/10!
Yay!
Neon White has a rocket launcher that you can sacrifice to use its grapple ability
I've heard great things about that game! Seems cool
tf2 + tf2 = thunder jump?
An equation to be studied for the years to come
2TF2
Missed chance to call it TF^2 because it's like a mixture of tf2 and tf2
Oooh that's clever!
Mannpower is just sitting in the corner crying, as everybody forgot about it
I don't like the powerups :(
Actually, it would be cool to give Web/Grapple swing for spy. Spy does need some mobility.
I've been saying for years that Spy needs a smoke b0mb
This better go in Funke's movement shooter video!!!
That'd be wild! 😄
How tf this guy only have 15k😂 man your content is gold
thanks bruv 🔥
your trailer forgot the ground pound thing
True, I felt like that one's less exciting :P
im seeing a weird WEIRD thing in yt where there are too many good youtubers with so many few views/subs its saddening
That's really nice of you to say! If you wanna help solve that little conundrum, sharing the video around to your friends is super helpful!
@@HeyGrouch do you think I’m an idiot of course I did 30 minutes ago
3:50 claim worth of ultrakilling
It's tough competition for sure
This TF2 x TF2 game sounds good.
2TF2
And thanks! It is! (I hope)
he just dropped a holy book?
It was actually a journal my in-laws bought me as a gift. I didn't want to drop an actual Bible for the joke lol. ✨Movie magic✨
i thought it was real
@@aimankhali No way, I treat all my holy books with utmost respect :) Just a little shock humor for the video
okay :)
I'd recommend Sanabi and Rusted Moss to anyone who enjoys 2d platformers and grappling hooks. Absolute banger games.
you like a jack or an ian until you raise your eyebrows, when you look like an ethan
Jack is pretty close! My name's Jake :P I always liked the name Elliott and Wesley though
Elliott strikes me as a majestic name. Found your easter egg on the level flappy bolt btw.@@HeyGrouch
thats cool and all... buuuutttttt, we need hot sexy giraffes. The game sucks without them. also im very handsome and cool
awesome idea for a game!
Thanks!!
@@HeyGrouch awesome sauce dude !!
ive enjoyed playing basketball in blackops 2 multiplayer map raid and its crazy how the titan fall 2 severs are fixed now
2:37 “mine is purple”
I love my purple shovel c:
Dude I was literally thinking about a potential game exactly like this yesterday! Really cool to see you analyzing what makes games fun to move in!
A potential idea I had was the grappling hook being able to latch onto and reel in the rockets themselves. If you were above like a massive pit, you could shoot a rocket down, grapple onto it, move a bit to the side, and when it hits you, it sends you flying, essentially rocket jumping off of the literal air. Could be a good idea for advanced movement tech.
Holy hell, that would be absolutely insane! I may experiment with that
TF2 mannpower: exists
Spiderman: exists
the 10000th video talking about wonky movement mechanics + tf2
immediate good video
and holy crapoly that part about starting a project and then making a new one and never going anywhere hurt me in my soul
It hurts my soul too.. We can make it out of that trap together 🔥
rocket jumps in doom 64 are pretty useful
Titanfall has rocket jump
Cs 1.6 super hero mod spider man hero
why is no one playing grouchland anymore?
OHOHOHO I AM EXCITED FOR THIS PLATFORMER!!!!!
best grapple was in worlds adrift rip
i think it would be better in 3d but that would take forever
Bungee jumping already exists in TF2. Some jump servers (Jump Academy) let you bungee as Spy (bind mouse4 "+bungee") . jump_spy101 is a map made for that, here's a playthrough as Soldier.
ua-cam.com/video/ZEej5aAIT4E/v-deo.htmlsi=lFrOxzPwvR9zr_mX
YES!! THIS IS THE KIND OF HOOK I WANT IN TF2!!!! THANK YOU
"every game with a rocket jump in it is a good game" WRONG!!!! Overwatch exists
I appreciate the Overwatch hate! Certainly well deserved. However I wouldn't even consider what Pharah does to be rocket jumping, to be honest
Sir, TITANFALL2 IS BACK BAYBEE
One of the better grappling hooks I’ve experienced is from a game called Worlds Adrift. It’s from Bossa Studios, the same folks that made Surgeon Simulator.
The game’s defunct now, online only with servers that are no longer running, but the grappling hook functioned a lot like the Titanfall one. The main differences being (aside from unlimited use) that it gave you full control over the rope’s extension and retraction, and also had a launching mechanic that would instantly unhook the rope and give you a bit of extra propulsion in the direction you’re facing.
I miss Worlds Adrift :( That game was awesome
Very very cool concept.
I think Rusted Moss does this too (Not with all weapons though, but it still does happen, and oh it also has a rocket launcher as well).
With the addition of an elastic rope.
Though it does also focus on combat... unlike you where you specifically focus on the movement and traversal, and maximum momentum manipulation.
Have you heard of this game?
Oh right, I wasn't trying to shit on your game, just drawing similarities, I really really like your approach!! well done!
Edit: I was just surprised you didn't mention Rusted Moss, so that's why I'm asking if you even know it exists or not.
I'd highly recommend playing this game, it's very satisfying!
No offense taken! It's crazy you bring up Rusted Moss- I played the demo a while ago before the full version released! The crazy part is that the developer made a prototype back in 2018 called "Rocketjump Mountain" that helped inspire Thunder Jumper!! Small world
☝️🤓 you say tf2 has no speed limit but, there is a speed limit when rocket jumping of 3500HU/s
True. Scout moves at like 400hu/s tho, so it's still pretty dosh garn fast
i'm making a little movement game myself and some of the things you've said here (mainly: "wave of momentum", and talking about how long your levels are) have just made a few things click in my head and I wanna thank you for that xD
still haven't started doing the first level. I am terrified.
That's awesome! And I don't blame you for being terrified- level design is legitimately the scariest thing in all of game development, at least for me anyways 😅 What helped me was to "copy" levels from other games to see how they play with my own mechanics. For instance I put a few Super Meat Boy levels in my first prototype just to see how they would play, and they ended up being pretty fun even though Thunder Jumper moves nothing like Meat Boy!
Game sort of reminds me of kick shot on steam which has rocket jumping, wall running, grapple hook, and auto bunny hopping in 3D levels. Sadly only like 15 levels mostly under 15 seconds if you know what your doing. Still spent over 20 hours to get good times though. Awesome video and jokes. Can’t wait to see more.
Just played Kickshot- It's really cool! I wish the grappling hook didn't have a cooldown though
Ever play the spiderman 2 movie game? Still to this day has the best swing mechanics ive ever played and has actual engagement unlike insomniacs. The speed and momentum are perfect and require skill to pull off.
I'll check it out!
I just wanted to say that I found a couple glitches that I can compile into one big glitch.
Rockets don’t despawn even if you press g, so you could beat levels with 0 seconds by pressing g before the rocket hits the goal and you can make the clock start later by boosting without pressing anything (if you hold d while restarting the timer doesn’t start, and space doesn’t start the timer at all)
Thanks for telling me! I'll be sure to fix these before the full game release :) Thanks so much for playing!!
I think calling it rocket jumping centers it a bit too much on being a movement utility only for rocket launchers, and personally i think the term "Blast Jumping" fits it better. Raze in Valorant is the perfect example of this. Sure she does have a rocket launcher, but that's not something she can use for blast jumping. Instead, she has her little blast packs have the ability to propel her. Even in TF2 you have the same thing, via things like Cannon Jumping with the Loose Cannon, or just sticky jumping in general as Demoman.
Really good point!
Subscribed in the first 30 seconds👍
Edit: I watched the whole thing now and pls keep making videos like this
Thanks KingDuckTheGreat!
Talking about speed running 2D platforming without mentioning Sonic even once was either the hardest possible challenge that Grouch imposed on himself, or it's just the biggest letdown in video game essay history.
I wanted to talk about Sonic so badly- you can probably tell I based a lot of the art in the game around Sonic! I just personally have very little experience with those games, so it felt like it'd be disingenuous to force myself to have an opinion on Sonic just for the video
you probably know, but doom's engine is technically 3d and often called 2.5d
the render engine is 2d but actual physics does have a height element
You might be right. I was reading an article about how the game tricks you into thinking it's 3D when all the physics are actually 2D, which is why there aren't any overlapping floors in the game. I guess it might come down to semantics at the end of the day, idk- I've never programmed a game engine OR a rendering engine so I'm out of my depth here :P
This is really entertaining, thank you : ) Your editing style and comedy is great, at least for an autistic clown like me, so keep up the good work, I hope you make more!
Aww that's very sweet of you to say :)
he combined tf2 with tf2!!!!
Oh yes, my favorite Movement Shooter FPS games. TF2 and TF2
Yes 🔥
"every game with rocket jump in it is a good game"
as an ex overwatch 2 player:i disagree
I wouldn't even consider what Pharah does rocket jumping. :P
Spider-Man rocket jumping is beautiful
you're beautiful
Warframes bullet jumps and other things would also be cool
YES!!! I love how Downwell does it.
played the demo its pretty sick. i want to shoot stuff with the rocket not just the ground. like shoot a button to open a gate while im grappling idk
Thanks for playing! The full game will have a variety of enemies!
Grouch upload! Great video, this is truly the movement of time
Time do be moving
Bro just made teeworlds
i feel like this is no brainer suggestion but I think you should give players the ability to create maps
If enough people get the game, I'll definitely add it later in a free update!
7:23 spider-man 2 has an option to make swinging more realistic btw
oh sick
tbh this is just what ultrakill is like, has rocket jumping and grapple hook
True, Ultrakill is awesome! But more of a shooter than a platformer if you ask me
regular tf2 already has both
Hey dude, I'm also a content creator, mind if we talked a little about the editing one on one?
I'd love to talk! Discord is "heygrouch"
2:38 ACKTffuAAllIiiiiEeeYY
The max speed you can go while rocket jumping is 3500 hammer units per second. 🤓
Oh, that's really interesting :) Still pretty darn fast considering Scout moves at 400 hu/s
@@HeyGrouch yeah reaching that speed requires you to jump off 6 rockets at the same time. Not usually possible in regular play
who knew combining rocket jumping from tf2 and the grappling hook from tf2 made something truly awesomesauce
you're awesomesauce
@@HeyGrouch thank you mr awesomesauce
Did you notice that both games this guy took inspiration from is TF2 for short?
Haha, I had a joke in the original script about that :P Good eye for noticing! I've thought about making a video called "The Other TF2" where I just gush about how cool Titanfall is
man I’ve never thought about it but those are entirely the best movement mechanics
I've always thought so!
okay but there's something to shoot right? you didnt build a THUD gun and LIGHTNING hook, built for electrocution, in a "GET OVER HEEEERE" type of fashion to not have anything or anyone to use it on right?
No enemies in the demo, but I've got plans to put plenty in the full game!
@@HeyGrouch aaah, gotcha.
This video made me exhale through my nose several times, well done
Thanks :) I like ducks too
Tee Worlds entered the chat :D
Rocket Jumping + Grappling hooks were explored pretty amazingly there
Teeworlds is awesome! But its hook is very different than Thunder Jumper's. I don't really like hooks that add a ton of velocity to your character :P
@@HeyGrouch just wanted to bring that game up, other than that - agreed on all the points - keep on doin whatchu doin good sir!
I already commented on the video but I wanted to separate my compliments comment from lengthy genuine question comment:
What are your tips for this kind of “no-limits” platformer design? I’m currently making my own 2d-platformer that also has a focus on speed, agility, and momentum, but it’s my first ever actual game so I’m pretty new to game design.
Any tips concerning mechanics, level/area/world design, enemies, etc?
Great question! By far the MOST IMPORTANT thing in ALL of game development is playtesting. You want to follow what is called an "iterative" design approach, where you get a playable game in front of people as quickly as possible. This first "iteration" would be a rough prototype of mechanics with only 1 real level. Art and sound doesn't matter here. What matters is seeing how other people play your game and hearing from their lips what is fun and what is frustrating.
If 4/5 playtesters tell you something isn't fun- they're right. If they tell you how to make it more fun- they're probably wrong. Playtesters always know what's wrong, but almost never know how to actually fix it. That's your job as a game designer!
Once you've heard from 5-10 people on what's good and bad about your first iteration, you can start work on iteration 2. Once you've finished fixing the problems you discovered during the first playtests, it's time to maybe add a level or two that builds on what you've learned, and then time for more playtests! Just for perspective- my Thunder Jumper demo is roughly iteration 6 or 7 (and I'm still not done iterating!). The more iterations you have, the more refined of an experience you'll be making.
Rules for playtesting: Always watch them play. Never criticize how they play, or tell them they're bad at the game (it's more likely that the game is bad than that they're bad at it, sadly). Try to simulate an authentic play experience as if you weren't there- which means no telling them how to do things! If you have to tell playtesters how to do something, that's a problem that needs fixing!
I hope this helps :) As for specific mechanics, level design, and enemies, that's all just different flavors of gameplay. A good designer could make a fun game out of just about anything!
@@HeyGrouch thank you!
so in summary both tf2s have amazing movement. amen both goated games
Amen
So tf2 and tf2 have perfect movement mechanichs
correct!
If you want a fast 2D platformer play Pizza tower
Just watched some gameplay today, It's going on the wishlist!
2:54 consider: the Baby Face’s Blaster
Alright, I definitely did Scout dirty in this video. Baby Face Blaster and the Soda Popper are f*cking awesome
he has yet to discover the superiority of mannpower
Some of you guys have been enlightening me. I'm gonna try it some more
sadly you cant rocketjump in titanfall
Ikr :(
*laughs in Splatoon's ink system*
lol, what a wild movement system. it is fun tbh
Absolute fire video, this is super cool!
Thanks!! 🔥
Poor guy made the game in unity of all things
Whoops.
errrm actually spiderman 2 has a slider that makes the webslinging feel like spiderman. the slider is called web assist and its on max by default, the lower it is the more like spiderman it feels
Oh, that's really cool! I don't have a PS5, but if it comes to steam at a discounted price count me in
@@HeyGrouch i don't either😔, but i did see gameplay with the web assist off and it looks cool. while its not something you can aim it isn't like you go straight forward like the first game, where the web is very much effects which side you're being pulled towards and i think thats neat
there's some tf2 guy who's really cracked at using the grapple hook
I'd love to see him in action
@@HeyGrouch Look up Cerulean, he obliterates cheaters with it.
Terraria Overhaul:
You're really handicapping yourself by making it in 2D tho...
I like 2d platformers more than 3d tbh. I feel like it's much easier to read environments and plan movements in 2d
@@HeyGrouch Yes but you lose a lot of movement mechanics by sticking to 2D. Air Strafing, Trimping, and Bunnyhopping are all techniques exclusive to 3D...
@@AngraMainiiu True, true. There is *kind of* trimping in Thunder Jumper though, and I've never cared much for bunnyhopping to begin with :P
cant wait for the full thing! the demo is great!
Thanks!!!
I forgot you still have your face
Me too. Sometimes I'll look in the mirror and scare the daylights out of myself