This is a great, simple, and inexpensive way for small churches to live stream their services. I love and will recommend it to other church leaders. Thanks, Jake! This is good stuff. The Lord bless you brother.
Thanks for this - we are Ecamm users now and it is working like a charm. An important note about the PTZOptics cam though, especially if you're going to mount it in your church: the remote that comes with the camera is essentially USELESS. It is, believe it or not, infrared, like the old TV remotes, not RF. That means in order to get it to work, you have to stand in front of the camera and point it at the sensor. I guess the manufacturers didn't consider the fact that if you're standing in front of the camera, you're ON camera. Unless you're okay with sitting next to the minister onstage and on camera while they're speaking so you can zoom, tilt, and pan, you'll have to create an ethernet network and connect to the camera from your computer that way (PC folk have an rs232 option as well-we're mac folks.) We made the mistake of hiring a contractor to mount the camera on the ceiling of our church and run hdmi cable from the camera to our booth-and now, though our camera is only 35 feet away, we can't control it. We have to call our contractor back now and have him drag ethernet cable through the ceiling instead (read time delay and added expense.) I didn't see the necessity of creating a network for just one computer and one camera-don't make the same mistake!
I use the EVGA XR1 lite instead of the AJA U-Tamp. It is 1/4 the price and has worked very well for me so far. We are getting to the point where a lot of the no-name cheaper ones on Amazon are decent as well, but they are hard to recommend since they change so much. I gave a $20 no-name unit to a nephew for Switch streaming, and it just worked. The main thing to look for in those is UVC support.
I’m using OBS for my church and I love it. It didn’t take any time at all to set up. I got the software from Canon’s website to use my M50 and capture audio with a simple wireless lapel mic. Keep it simple!
HELP! we are using a M32 to OBS for live stream. But what I’m hoping to do is bring the signal from the M32 house mix into Ableton so I can have my own separate mix. Currently I have to keep telling the person running house sound to give me a little more for the guitar, bass, piano or hey let’s add more reverb/delay to the lead vocal for an example. So what I would like to have is where I can add and do what I want in Ableton. I’ve heard of other churches doing this but can’t seem to get how they do it. So far I got all signals coming into Ableton and going into OBS using blackhole, I can add effects and hear them in my headphone, but the live stream still comes out dry. I can’t get the effects into the stream. Help please 😅 🙏🏽
Thank you for your very helpful video. This is the first time we are doing services by youtube, but we are recording and then uploading them. Thanks again
I wanted to drop you a note to say thank you for this video. My church has wanted to stream services for a while now. With the current circumstances what they are, it pushed this project to the forefront. I'm a geek of sorts and have dabbled in A/V but have stayed in the shallow end of the A/V pool. This video gave me the confidence to wade into the deeper end. I'm not sure I would have been able to convince myself to make the jump on the PTZOptics camera on my own. While we gathered equipment, I started streaming services with a iPad and migrated to my phone as it was better quality. We've since got the PTZOptics w/ NDI HX in place running vMix and now have the audio tied into the overall audio system. The transition was a night and day moment in the quality of the offering for my church. I continue to learn more about vMix with plans to evolve the stream content as we go. We continue to grow in the number of parishioners that are now joining live on a daily basis. The ability to connect in this way when they can't in person means so much to them. I can't thank you enough for this gift. God Bless.
The fact that the PTZ camera comes with USB output it's great, so the HDMI, POE and SDI video output. The problem is most of the churches will use more than one of these and they will be pretty far from the computer so you won't be able to use the USB or HDMI video output since these will only work with short distance cables. So HDMI and USB video output will be useless, the only remaining option for long distance video connection is the 3g-SDi and POE and you will need a 3g-SDi to USB adaptor or I guess POE to USB
Great video and thanks for keeping it simple. So many folks want to throw everything out there when the majority of churches don’t really need everything.
Absolutely, but that's not because it's open-source, it's because it very highly customizable and versatile, although most Mac users I know, don't care for highly versatile - that means that they have to learn more about how to use their gear. Not a snub, just been my observation...
Thank you Jake. Truly a good video and may the good Lord bless you abundantly. And I cannot believe 86 people have unliked your video.. Hmmm... what can I say. Anyway... I can only praise God for your service. Be blessed...!
Thanks Jake for this Great Video Tutorial. I learned a LOT from you. You are a Good Teacher. God Bless you. Please Keep More Great videos Coming. Looking forward in anticipation. Thanks Again.
Our chuch has been running a robotic camera system for about 5 years and last year we upgraded our camera, and added two more. They are working great!!!
Hello im so very blessed to know these info from you. Im so encouraged to do the same here in our church, but lack of equipments. Hope and pray to have more info and later we can purchased it in our church.
at my church we have a camcorder mounted to the wall running HDMI into the epiphan video webcaster x2 then USB out into our stream pc then using the epiphan video app we can easily live stream to Facebook (or youtube) with a click of a button and monitor the video live and see comments we also run audio out of our board into a USB audio interface then into our PC.
I think we maybe are a bit overkill then. Our church is a bit more than 50 members, and around 250 at conferences. And we have 2 BMD studio cameras HD, 1 BMD TV studio HD, teradek cube and BMD TalkBack system. Bit frustrating that it is possible to do it for so little when we spend so much on it. Edit: Phrasing
this is so timely,...!!! And blessed are the churches that have had remotes in full use already for "shut-ins" !!! remote camera stocks will skyrocket. More UA-cam channels are popping up and many going to live stream.
Thank you Jake, what a wonderful idea for our Mosque to live stream Friday prayer and all the Islamic celebration such as the end of Ramadan (id Al Fitr), Id-Al adha, the Birth of the prophet Mohammed (SAWS) . To all the brothers and Muslim sisters, make sure to make a suggestion to your Imam to use the information in this video to live stream from your local Mosque! And may Allah makes it happen!
I love all of the info I’ve gotten from you guys! Quick tip for those who don’t have 1800 dollars for that web cam. LOGITECH has a webcam you could use with AMAZING 1080p quality for 100 bucks. Also, OBS is FREE and one of the BEST ways to livestream professionally on all platforms! You guys are great! Thanks! 👌🏾💯
Great video. I'm a believer in OBS and it's various variants because they work well and are free (and regularly developed since open source). I would encourage you to check out Streamlabs OBS variant as it's much more polished than OBS studio. It can get some pretty professional results with little effort. Pair that with a service like restream.io and you can stream to lots of platforms simultaneously. It works amazingly for gamers, so I'm sure it would work well for churches, as well. All that to say, I think you gave a lot of good info for folks looking to start expanding their Church outreach for whatever reason. Any way to get the Gospel out there is better than not, right? 😊
I used OBS for years in both a personal and professional environment with a lot of success. However, since switching to vMix, I can tell a noticable difference in stability, optimization, and quality. They aren't really worth comparing, because vMix is superior in every aspect - at a premium cost. So it really comes down to budget. I recommend OBS to clients all the time, but I definitely make it clear that it is inferior to vMix for professional use.
Caution, Streamlabs OBS is NOT the same product, and as it is a code fork that is actively being optimized for gamers, there are some very useful (to broadcasters & churches) features of Studio that are missing and may never show up in this product.
My church uses Inear monitoring, electronic drums, when the mixer is far from stage, the stage sound doesn’t affect the public access sound, so for stream we could nearly do the same mix. Only difference, less conservative pan settings and possibly less effect return on the stream. At the moment we use our Café and I use headphones, not easy, but by listening the recorded stream I could develop an understanding how it has to sound under headphones to be correctly
Was my former church. My actual church has no sound man beside me, so we have the issue, that the balance between instruments and vocals is always wrong, sometimes the vocals are too loud, sometimes they are hardly audible. I play keyboard and lead the band and its singing and can't set it properly. When the vocalists complained, they aren't audible, I set them high, when I noticed, the music is drown, I set them lower.
I came across this at a very good time. Because of this CoVid-19, our church is looking into live streaming our services. I seemed to notice a lag between the audio and video in the live example but didn't notice it on the playback? Is this correct?
For our audio we added a choir mic on stage that does not go into the main (amplified) mix. It only goes to an aux out mix with the other audio sources for video. Otherwise there is complete silence when no mics are amplified or nobody is near a mic. Modest background noise is good.
I actually preferred OBS over VMix. I guess preference is a factor here, but VMIX had difficulty locating the equipment we had- a lot of people on a budget might have that issue especially since you would also need a capture card for just a camera.
I'd love it for the Catholic Church I go to. YT has allot of videos of live streams of Catholic Church but I'd love to include mine as well. Its almost 200 years old
WOW, lot's a fantastic information. This covers a LOT of ground. I'm thinking of taking my free video guitar lessons into a live streaming show each week. I'm experimenting with Elgato Streamdeck and multicams. Thanks again and stay blessed, Jake!
Current street price (Dec 2020) on the PTZ Optics 20x is down to about $1600. Also, though it's kind of kludgy, the PTZ Optics camera is capable of live streaming directly from the camera to a network via it's ethernet port. Still have to log into the camera's web interface to set it up, but it doesn't need to pass through a computer. A bare bones way of doing things, but it could get you up in running to start.
Also, on a single camera setup, it might make sense to run your audio directly into your camera. It will take some adapting, and some care with levels. But, it will eliminate the latency issues that are visible in this demonstration.
PTZ's are awesome but super expensive. We have one of the cannons he mentioned, I would not recommend it. It is not very clear and does not do well in low light. Our other camera is a Panasonic v770 and it is much clearer. You can find them for around $100 more than the cannon if you look hard. We use a Blackmagic ATM mini which I highly recommend. It supports up to 4 camera's via HDMI in USB output and it will also support audio in. We route our microphone system right into the ATM Mini and then into OBS. Super simple setup that will run you $600-$800 dollars. Check out some of our live streams and you can see the differences between the 2 cameras.
For People wanting to permanently mount cameras its definitely worth looking into the laws in your area as there might be laws surrounding it, I know there are in Sweden. Haven't used the m32 so this might not ve possible, but wouldn't it be easier to just send the same mix he sent to the interface straight to the computer via USB? This would lower the setup time, remove things that could go wrong and just give a cleaner desk. Mainly been working with Allen and Heath desk so things might not work the same
What??? What!!! Did Jake just say that having a PC is better for something?!?!?! Hahahaha As for capture devices, I've always liked BlackMagic Design myself. They're professional grade (several of the latest movies you've watched were probably filmed with their gear) , and surprisingly, their entry level models are fairly inexpensive. IMHO perfect for churches. For those that are using a desktop to stream instead of a laptop, you can get a BlackMagic Design capture card at Amazon for $199. This card can capture at up to 4k and includes an output for an HDMI capture monitor - www.amazon.com/dp/B00U3QNP7Q BlackMagic Design also makes an external interface for laptops, which records at 1080p FHD for $145. But this interface is Thunderbolt ONLY. Better throughput for less skipped frames, but just make sure you've got the right input. www.amazon.com/dp/B009D91314/ And as for audio out... You don't necessarily need an audio capture device if you choose to use a camcorder with a capture device. We just take the output from our X32 video mix into the camcorder's Mic-In port. Oh... and you know the tech guy does use OBS... 😁
You know I'm always here to speak up for the PC crowd! As always, love the content. This should be a good series. We only live stream certain events (Like when we have to cancel church for snow, we do a special live stream), and I've seen both your video and Brady's. I think we could reach a larger crowd through live stream, but our lead pastor thinks we're not quite ready for it yet. We've got to make sure that we can convey our church's message properly through the stream. I guess we're just uploading our recorded messages on UA-cam for a while still. Also... any thoughts on the idea that live streaming keeps people from coming to church?
FYI....I spoke with an audio engineer and because you would be using a digital board there is no need for the interface. I purchased the Behringerx-32 digital mixing board and it has the interface built-in option on the back.
Your video is very helpful especially for a small church. When you mentioned an xlr out of the m32r into the Behringer for a unique mix, what if you still use an analog board? Trying to understand how you can mix multiple channels with just one xlr out and if you use headphones to mix won't that effect the house mix? We technically right now don't want to do the live stream part but record to post later, but want to plan for the live stream part in the future so this is good info. Goal is to figure out the best way on a small church budget to get a good video recording with a decent audio mix. We already record using a 2 channel maudio that captures the full house mix out of our board, which isn't bad most times but as you said isn't always ideal.
Consider the PTZOptics NDI cameras instead of the USB version. NDI is so slick with eCamm. Also if you have a large church consider the 30x zoom instead of the 20x.
Great video. I’m halfway tech savvy and thought I was crazy when I couldn’t use OBS without tons of instructional videos. Using Vmix now and it’s so much easier.
I'm actually somewhat surprised to hear everybody's comments on OBS. I set up OBS on a Linux-based laptop for the first time literally earlier today to see if it would be a good option and had it working in minutes; no tutorials. I do have a background in video production though, so that probably helps.
About a year before covid limitations my church had the impression "Do Livestream". We had about 20 viewers - but when the lockdown came, it raises because few churches were ready. As a German church we got viewers from all German speaking Europe. When churches were able to offer streams or doing the service with Zoom, our live audience decreased, but we also stream a worship time, what has before this was visited by possibly 10 people.
Everyone seems to be advertising the $1000+ cameras. Let's not forget the PTX 20X ZCAM. It's not pan/tilt, but still has a great 20x zoom. Search UA-cam for Oakwood Streaming and see it for yourself. B&H Photo price $799.
we don't even have a brick and mortar church, we are on Discord! La Familia House .... lots of christians but it's an eclectic mix of people from different backgrounds. i think we need more Hindus and Muslims, agnostics, etc, to keep our wits sharp - speak the truth in love, yeah? God bless and thank you for the video
Haha, Jake, do you know what an overhead projector is? 😂 Seriously though this is so helpful, thank you so much. There are so many of us out here who are needing to set stuff up, whether for small church or simply, as we are this morning, just a home church of 6-12 folk. And many of us are just waking up to all the stuff we can use. I have a question but I'll post it on another comment. Thanks again, great jobs!
@@boaty87d This will probably depend upon the camera in question, and also very heavily on your internet bandwidth. If you host your own website, you'll have both the web traffic from normal use of your website to consider, but also the upload of everyone who connects to your stream to download/view it. You DON'T want to host this yourself with most internet providers. Even if your website is hosted externally, you'll still want to have your stream sent from a hosted server instance, so that you only have to have fast enough upload on your end to get your stream to your (cloud?) provider, and then it can be re-streamed from there to however many other services you wish to stream it too, including your own website. Trying to do it all in-house is a recipe for disaster unless your audience is REALLY small, like less than 10-15 viewers, depending upon your (upload) internet speeds. Keep in mind, ISPs (at least in the USA) will heavily market and brag about their DOWNLOAD speeds, when they're selling you their services, but they don't make much mention of the UPLOAD speeds, which are usually a small fraction of the download speeds, so check yours before you literally crash the network trying to save the day. Try speedtest.net sometime when your internet is not in heavy use.
I’m a Mac guy. Yes, I understand PC seems to work better with livestream. We have a Mac running Propresenter for our worship. Newbie question here. Should the live computer be able to work with Propresenter computer? If I’m using Mac for Propresenter should I just stay with Mac for the livestream. Awesome vid, yep I’m here to cause of the COVID-19. :)
You may be better off if you can dedicate a computer to doing the live streaming. For example, what we're going to be doing next Sunday (And successfully did last Sunday), was to capture the feeds and stream them on a separate computer, while the presentations were running on the same computer that they always run on. I know that it can be done with OBS, but I've never tried it with the commercial software packages he mentions here. I know that OBS can import network captures from Macs to get this kind of data, but we didn't use a Mac for that, we ran OBS on a Mac for streaming last Sunday, and next Sunday, it will be on a Linux box, with the presentations and announcements running on other Windows PCs, just because they're already pressed into service doing those tasks for the hall, and I can pull NDI captures from them into OBS for the live stream.
Does ecamm live auto sync between mixer audio and camera audio? In the video Jake's PTZ camera was at a different speed than his audio, but when he replayed his recording on youtube the audio synced properly. Did you Jake have to configure that or did the program automatically do that?
Hi! I've enjoyed this video, however the camera you are reviewing at 6:30secs, the quality is actually a lesser video quality that whatever you are using for this video. Can you share the camera you are using for this actual video? Thanks
Very helpful. However, audio and video are in sync until you stream through the PTZ cam. Then the audio/video is out of sync. Possibly e-Camm is the culprit. Any insight into that?
Streamed for the first time last sunday as a test at my church. Had some A/V sync issues, the video camera we used has a 250 ms delay on the HDMI output. I delayed the audio input from X32 in OBS, but what if we add other cameras in the future that has different latency?
I ran it on the same laptop that run the projector software, and chroma keyed that output to put the text over the camera with a semitransparent black background. Looks really good! Our projector is in 4:3 though because the wall is too narrow for 16:9.
We have been recording audio of our services since the days of tape, and I think we’re ready to take the next step to stream live video. Target audience is for our church members and for other people to get an idea what our church is like on the inside.
I have a big question. I'm trying to help my inlaws set up their church live stream and this video has been amazing. The only question is when it's time for worship the music quality is super distorted and I was hoping you would have some advise to fix the sound quality for worship?
Jake ... how do you guide pastors now that many of us are sheltered at home because of corona virus and don't necessarily have access to church sanctuary's, choirs, or even the media equipment. How can we do some amazing setup for worship from home?
A video switch is a smart choice once You get past sticker shock. Then You'll wonder how You ever did without it. Suggest Black Magic Video Switch. Bang for the Buck!
I am live-streaming from home. I am new to the space and I am trying to build this system for the house. What camera, and microphone do you recommend? Thank you for this video. it is awesome information.
Me! I want to setup live streaming for my band. Our show last night 3/13/20 was cancelled and I think tele-concerts is the new wave, sparked by 19, but I've been working on it for a while.
Hi Jake. Very informative. Very helpful. I get the principles you've outlined, and I think there's enough here to get me started. I just want to make 3 observations. 1) You address Mac and Windows, but act as though you've never heard of Linux. What's that about? I'd be happy if you said you are not familiar with Linux, but acknowledged the platform as a viable, if not a superior option to the 2 you've mentioned. 2) Open source software: You represent open source as being somewhat unreliable and inferior. This bags the question "how researched are you?" I can tell you that for everything that I need to do, I've always found a viable open source option on Linux... so please be kind to the good folks that build great software and give it away free. Please fix these 2 things. 3) I think that it's very helpful and strategic that you highlight the objectives you're working with here. You said you want a solution that's easy to use, and is affordable. That's important because that's how one can evaluate it and decide how optimal it is. I for instance would like to use multiple cameras and realise that's not within the objectives you've set, but I still found this very helpful. Great video! From the principles you've highlighted, I think I have enough to start formulating a solution I can run on my Linux laptop. Thank you, and God bless.
AMEN!!! 3 weeks ago, our church started with FB Live on an old iPad, and frankly, it was horrible. By last Sunday, we had moved on to a decent camera, a borrowed Macbook, & OBS, and even though we didn't know how to use most of what OBS can do, it was an order of magnitude better. By Palm Sunday, we're likely to be running OBS on a Linux box, and if Amazon can get us a HDMI to NDI adapter, we'll have multi-camera function, and by then, we'll have sorted out the overlays and more of the fancy features that make OBS such a wonderful choice. I even expect to have a private re-streaming server up on premises (also running Linux) to allow us to stream to multiple sites at the same time, and all using open source software. There's NO way this could have been done affordably using commercial software in that time-frame, if only because of the time needed to run a fundraising campaign to pay for it...
As a mac guy have you looked into the Wirecast program and blackmagic gear. Its more commercial price tags but just interested on your thoughts and comparisons
Nice and simple setup. Also saw your portable recent settup (juy2020) but looked like its high dollar. Can this setup run wirelessly? I have drones to run through ECAMM/VMIX. How could I run the drone cameras video cap device through the RTMP server?
Who else jumped on here because of Coronavirus?
guilty
oh my gosh ME! lol!! I'm trying to figure out how to lead worship remotely haha
😂😂🤣
Me
Yep me too!
A SUPER THAN YOU Jake!
Pastor here, I don't think you realize how valuable your information is to us. The amount of time and peace you've given us!
Video starts at 4:00
THANK U
My man
thanks man
Blessed By The Best Thanks bru!
You are a legend
3 years ago this was just informational, now it’s vital to our new normal world
Oh wow!
Thank you for sharing this information with us.
May many blessings rain down on you and your church ⛪️.
This is a great, simple, and inexpensive way for small churches to live stream their services. I love and will recommend it to other church leaders. Thanks, Jake! This is good stuff. The Lord bless you brother.
Wow thanks I can use your help I will reach out when I’m ready thanks for an informative video
Thanks for this - we are Ecamm users now and it is working like a charm. An important note about the PTZOptics cam though, especially if you're going to mount it in your church: the remote that comes with the camera is essentially USELESS. It is, believe it or not, infrared, like the old TV remotes, not RF. That means in order to get it to work, you have to stand in front of the camera and point it at the sensor. I guess the manufacturers didn't consider the fact that if you're standing in front of the camera, you're ON camera. Unless you're okay with sitting next to the minister onstage and on camera while they're speaking so you can zoom, tilt, and pan, you'll have to create an ethernet network and connect to the camera from your computer that way (PC folk have an rs232 option as well-we're mac folks.) We made the mistake of hiring a contractor to mount the camera on the ceiling of our church and run hdmi cable from the camera to our booth-and now, though our camera is only 35 feet away, we can't control it. We have to call our contractor back now and have him drag ethernet cable through the ceiling instead (read time delay and added expense.) I didn't see the necessity of creating a network for just one computer and one camera-don't make the same mistake!
I use the EVGA XR1 lite instead of the AJA U-Tamp. It is 1/4 the price and has worked very well for me so far. We are getting to the point where a lot of the no-name cheaper ones on Amazon are decent as well, but they are hard to recommend since they change so much. I gave a $20 no-name unit to a nephew for Switch streaming, and it just worked. The main thing to look for in those is UVC support.
Maybe you can try ADKIDO PTZ Camera with tracking and support HDMI/USB and 3G-SDI
I’m using OBS for my church and I love it. It didn’t take any time at all to set up. I got the software from Canon’s website to use my M50 and capture audio with a simple wireless lapel mic. Keep it simple!
i recently became the tech/media head at my ministry. thanks alot. subscribed.
Thank you brother for your enlightenment tonight just getting started and want to do things right...
HELP!
we are using a M32 to OBS for live stream. But what I’m hoping to do is bring the signal from the M32 house mix into Ableton so I can have my own separate mix. Currently I have to keep telling the person running house sound to give me a little more for the guitar, bass, piano or hey let’s add more reverb/delay to the lead vocal for an example.
So what I would like to have is where I can add and do what I want in Ableton.
I’ve heard of other churches doing this but can’t seem to get how they do it.
So far I got all signals coming into Ableton and going into OBS using blackhole, I can add effects and hear them in my headphone, but the live stream still comes out dry.
I can’t get the effects into the stream.
Help please 😅 🙏🏽
Thank you for your very helpful video. This is the first time we are doing services by youtube, but we are recording and then uploading them. Thanks again
I wanted to drop you a note to say thank you for this video. My church has wanted to stream services for a while now. With the current circumstances what they are, it pushed this project to the forefront. I'm a geek of sorts and have dabbled in A/V but have stayed in the shallow end of the A/V pool. This video gave me the confidence to wade into the deeper end. I'm not sure I would have been able to convince myself to make the jump on the PTZOptics camera on my own. While we gathered equipment, I started streaming services with a iPad and migrated to my phone as it was better quality. We've since got the PTZOptics w/ NDI HX in place running vMix and now have the audio tied into the overall audio system. The transition was a night and day moment in the quality of the offering for my church. I continue to learn more about vMix with plans to evolve the stream content as we go. We continue to grow in the number of parishioners that are now joining live on a daily basis. The ability to connect in this way when they can't in person means so much to them. I can't thank you enough for this gift. God Bless.
Maybe you can try ADKIDO PTZ Camera with tracking and support HDMI/USB and 3G-SDI
You’ve grown me so much in my media ministry, man. Thank you.
Loving the friends in the background!!!
The fact that the PTZ camera comes with USB output it's great, so the HDMI, POE and SDI video output. The problem is most of the churches will use more than one of these and they will be pretty far from the computer so you won't be able to use the USB or HDMI video output since these will only work with short distance cables. So HDMI and USB video output will be useless, the only remaining option for long distance video connection is the 3g-SDi and POE and you will need a 3g-SDi to USB adaptor or I guess POE to USB
Thank you for your info, but much better with demonstration video for a better studies. God bless. great help for our church here in the Philippines.
Hey Jake, 11:57 yes, my church has been living under a rock. the rock of Christ :D
That would be Rock ... ;-)
Thank you for taking the time to share your experience, God bless you!!!
Great video and thanks for keeping it simple. So many folks want to throw everything out there when the majority of churches don’t really need everything.
Thank you Jake, this is what I have been looking for
Thank you for this! It is helping us set up our own live stream during this difficult time. Thanks for all of the awesome content!
Thank you for including us in this roundup! We really appreciate it.
Thanks so much for this setup! Our church is up and running with live streaming!
You’re right. There’s a steep learning curve but once you figure OBS out its FANTASTIC! 👌🏾💯
Absolutely, but that's not because it's open-source, it's because it very highly customizable and versatile, although most Mac users I know, don't care for highly versatile - that means that they have to learn more about how to use their gear. Not a snub, just been my observation...
Thanks for this video. I am just about to set up a live streaming system for our church
Thank you Jake. Truly a good video and may the good Lord bless you abundantly.
And I cannot believe 86 people have unliked your video.. Hmmm... what can I say.
Anyway... I can only praise God for your service. Be blessed...!
Thanks Jake for this Great Video Tutorial. I learned a LOT from you. You are a Good Teacher. God Bless you. Please Keep More Great videos Coming. Looking forward in anticipation. Thanks Again.
Our chuch has been running a robotic camera system for about 5 years and last year we upgraded our camera, and added two more. They are working great!!!
Hello im so very blessed to know these info from you. Im so encouraged to do the same here in our church, but lack of equipments. Hope and pray to have more info and later we can purchased it in our church.
at my church we have a camcorder mounted to the wall running HDMI into the epiphan video webcaster x2 then USB out into our stream pc then using the epiphan video app we can easily live stream to Facebook (or youtube) with a click of a button and monitor the video live and see comments we also run audio out of our board into a USB audio interface then into our PC.
I think we maybe are a bit overkill then. Our church is a bit more than 50 members, and around 250 at conferences. And we have 2 BMD studio cameras HD, 1 BMD TV studio HD, teradek cube and BMD TalkBack system. Bit frustrating that it is possible to do it for so little when we spend so much on it.
Edit: Phrasing
Excellent setup. Wise choice in use of resources.
this is so timely,...!!! And blessed are the churches that have had remotes in full use already for "shut-ins" !!! remote camera stocks will skyrocket. More UA-cam channels are popping up and many going to live stream.
Thank you Jake, what a wonderful idea for our Mosque to live stream Friday prayer and all the Islamic celebration such as the end of Ramadan (id Al Fitr), Id-Al adha, the Birth of the prophet Mohammed (SAWS) . To all the brothers and Muslim sisters, make sure to make a suggestion to your Imam to use the information in this video to live stream from your local Mosque! And may Allah makes it happen!
Much love to you and your family in Jesus
I love all of the info I’ve gotten from you guys! Quick tip for those who don’t have 1800 dollars for that web cam. LOGITECH has a webcam you could use with AMAZING 1080p quality for 100 bucks. Also, OBS is FREE and one of the BEST ways to livestream professionally on all platforms! You guys are great! Thanks! 👌🏾💯
Thanks for sharing Rob!
This is exactly what I needed! Thank you for creating this video
I Have.. Blue Herron Musikworks.. This is the future..This video was simple and most instructive
Great video. I'm a believer in OBS and it's various variants because they work well and are free (and regularly developed since open source). I would encourage you to check out Streamlabs OBS variant as it's much more polished than OBS studio. It can get some pretty professional results with little effort. Pair that with a service like restream.io and you can stream to lots of platforms simultaneously. It works amazingly for gamers, so I'm sure it would work well for churches, as well. All that to say, I think you gave a lot of good info for folks looking to start expanding their Church outreach for whatever reason. Any way to get the Gospel out there is better than not, right? 😊
thanks for sharing
I used OBS for years in both a personal and professional environment with a lot of success. However, since switching to vMix, I can tell a noticable difference in stability, optimization, and quality. They aren't really worth comparing, because vMix is superior in every aspect - at a premium cost. So it really comes down to budget. I recommend OBS to clients all the time, but I definitely make it clear that it is inferior to vMix for professional use.
@@pealock pls why my OBS output is not in HD.. It has a maximum of 740p n d video quality are so discouraging.
Caution, Streamlabs OBS is NOT the same product, and as it is a code fork that is actively being optimized for gamers, there are some very useful (to broadcasters & churches) features of Studio that are missing and may never show up in this product.
My church uses Inear monitoring, electronic drums, when the mixer is far from stage, the stage sound doesn’t affect the public access sound, so for stream we could nearly do the same mix. Only difference, less conservative pan settings and possibly less effect return on the stream.
At the moment we use our Café and I use headphones, not easy, but by listening the recorded stream I could develop an understanding how it has to sound under headphones to be correctly
Was my former church. My actual church has no sound man beside me, so we have the issue, that the balance between instruments and vocals is always wrong, sometimes the vocals are too loud, sometimes they are hardly audible. I play keyboard and lead the band and its singing and can't set it properly. When the vocalists complained, they aren't audible, I set them high, when I noticed, the music is drown, I set them lower.
Love seeing Joey in the background on your screen...
Thank you for all the helpful information, Jake!
BTW... Did anyone else notice that he was watching Friends on the iMac in the background? Lol!
I came across this at a very good time. Because of this CoVid-19, our church is looking into live streaming our services. I seemed to notice a lag between the audio and video in the live example but didn't notice it on the playback? Is this correct?
Randal Ovcen you can also check out Mevo live streaming
For our audio we added a choir mic on stage that does not go into the main (amplified) mix. It only goes to an aux out mix with the other audio sources for video. Otherwise there is complete silence when no mics are amplified or nobody is near a mic. Modest background noise is good.
Really great job explaining basic fundamentals!
I actually preferred OBS over VMix. I guess preference is a factor here, but VMIX had difficulty locating the equipment we had- a lot of people on a budget might have that issue especially since you would also need a capture card for just a camera.
What a blessing to have u
I'd love it for the Catholic Church I go to. YT has allot of videos of live streams of Catholic Church but I'd love to include mine as well. Its almost 200 years old
Thanks Jake.. You're amazing.
WOW, lot's a fantastic information. This covers a LOT of ground. I'm thinking of taking my free video guitar lessons into a live streaming show each week. I'm experimenting with Elgato Streamdeck and multicams. Thanks again and stay blessed, Jake!
Current street price (Dec 2020) on the PTZ Optics 20x is down to about $1600. Also, though it's kind of kludgy, the PTZ Optics camera is capable of live streaming directly from the camera to a network via it's ethernet port. Still have to log into the camera's web interface to set it up, but it doesn't need to pass through a computer. A bare bones way of doing things, but it could get you up in running to start.
Also, on a single camera setup, it might make sense to run your audio directly into your camera. It will take some adapting, and some care with levels. But, it will eliminate the latency issues that are visible in this demonstration.
The PTZ Optics camera is awesome for streaming. I am running 3 of them with a Black Magic Production Studio.
PTZ's are awesome but super expensive. We have one of the cannons he mentioned, I would not recommend it. It is not very clear and does not do well in low light. Our other camera is a Panasonic v770 and it is much clearer. You can find them for around $100 more than the cannon if you look hard. We use a Blackmagic ATM mini which I highly recommend. It supports up to 4 camera's via HDMI in USB output and it will also support audio in. We route our microphone system right into the ATM Mini and then into OBS. Super simple setup that will run you $600-$800 dollars. Check out some of our live streams and you can see the differences between the 2 cameras.
For People wanting to permanently mount cameras its definitely worth looking into the laws in your area as there might be laws surrounding it, I know there are in Sweden.
Haven't used the m32 so this might not ve possible, but wouldn't it be easier to just send the same mix he sent to the interface straight to the computer via USB?
This would lower the setup time, remove things that could go wrong and just give a cleaner desk.
Mainly been working with Allen and Heath desk so things might not work the same
What??? What!!! Did Jake just say that having a PC is better for something?!?!?! Hahahaha
As for capture devices, I've always liked BlackMagic Design myself. They're professional grade (several of the latest movies you've watched were probably filmed with their gear) , and surprisingly, their entry level models are fairly inexpensive. IMHO perfect for churches.
For those that are using a desktop to stream instead of a laptop, you can get a BlackMagic Design capture card at Amazon for $199. This card can capture at up to 4k and includes an output for an HDMI capture monitor - www.amazon.com/dp/B00U3QNP7Q
BlackMagic Design also makes an external interface for laptops, which records at 1080p FHD for $145. But this interface is Thunderbolt ONLY. Better throughput for less skipped frames, but just make sure you've got the right input. www.amazon.com/dp/B009D91314/
And as for audio out... You don't necessarily need an audio capture device if you choose to use a camcorder with a capture device. We just take the output from our X32 video mix into the camcorder's Mic-In port.
Oh... and you know the tech guy does use OBS... 😁
Thanks for sharing Troy! lol yes I did say PC was better. I was waiting for someone to call me out on that.
You know I'm always here to speak up for the PC crowd! As always, love the content. This should be a good series. We only live stream certain events (Like when we have to cancel church for snow, we do a special live stream), and I've seen both your video and Brady's. I think we could reach a larger crowd through live stream, but our lead pastor thinks we're not quite ready for it yet. We've got to make sure that we can convey our church's message properly through the stream. I guess we're just uploading our recorded messages on UA-cam for a while still.
Also... any thoughts on the idea that live streaming keeps people from coming to church?
FYI....I spoke with an audio engineer and because you would be using a digital board there is no need for the interface. I purchased the Behringerx-32 digital mixing board and it has the interface built-in option on the back.
Your video is very helpful especially for a small church. When you mentioned an xlr out of the m32r into the Behringer for a unique mix, what if you still use an analog board? Trying to understand how you can mix multiple channels with just one xlr out and if you use headphones to mix won't that effect the house mix? We technically right now don't want to do the live stream part but record to post later, but want to plan for the live stream part in the future so this is good info. Goal is to figure out the best way on a small church budget to get a good video recording with a decent audio mix. We already record using a 2 channel maudio that captures the full house mix out of our board, which isn't bad most times but as you said isn't always ideal.
The XLR out from main board would be a bus or sub bus feed. That would then feed to another mixer attached to computer done this way. Hope that helps!
Consider the PTZOptics NDI cameras instead of the USB version. NDI is so slick with eCamm. Also if you have a large church consider the 30x zoom instead of the 20x.
Great video. I’m halfway tech savvy and thought I was crazy when I couldn’t use OBS without tons of instructional videos. Using Vmix now and it’s so much easier.
I'm actually somewhat surprised to hear everybody's comments on OBS. I set up OBS on a Linux-based laptop for the first time literally earlier today to see if it would be a good option and had it working in minutes; no tutorials. I do have a background in video production though, so that probably helps.
About a year before covid limitations my church had the impression "Do Livestream".
We had about 20 viewers - but when the lockdown came, it raises because few churches were ready. As a German church we got viewers from all German speaking Europe. When churches were able to offer streams or doing the service with Zoom, our live audience decreased, but we also stream a worship time, what has before this was visited by possibly 10 people.
Everyone seems to be advertising the $1000+ cameras. Let's not forget the PTX 20X ZCAM. It's not pan/tilt, but still has a great 20x zoom. Search UA-cam for Oakwood Streaming and see it for yourself. B&H Photo price $799.
Love the PTZ Optics cameras and the MIDI app! Great video too!
Thanks, Doug!
we don't even have a brick and mortar church, we are on Discord! La Familia House .... lots of christians but it's an eclectic mix of people from different backgrounds. i think we need more Hindus and Muslims, agnostics, etc, to keep our wits sharp - speak the truth in love, yeah? God bless and thank you for the video
Haha, Jake, do you know what an overhead projector is? 😂 Seriously though this is so helpful, thank you so much. There are so many of us out here who are needing to set stuff up, whether for small church or simply, as we are this morning, just a home church of 6-12 folk. And many of us are just waking up to all the stuff we can use. I have a question but I'll post it on another comment. Thanks again, great jobs!
Thank you Jake, we are currently looking into this especially during the Covid-19 lock down.
This helped a lot. Is there a video teaching overlays, scenes, and cut scenes on ecamm??
Wow wonderful I need it for my church
You can ALSO use an inexpensive IP Camera (wired or wireless) and embed a stream directly into your website. Saves a LOT of money.
Does this method just use the camera microphone or are there ways of integrating mixed audio?
@@boaty87d This will probably depend upon the camera in question, and also very heavily on your internet bandwidth. If you host your own website, you'll have both the web traffic from normal use of your website to consider, but also the upload of everyone who connects to your stream to download/view it. You DON'T want to host this yourself with most internet providers.
Even if your website is hosted externally, you'll still want to have your stream sent from a hosted server instance, so that you only have to have fast enough upload on your end to get your stream to your (cloud?) provider, and then it can be re-streamed from there to however many other services you wish to stream it too, including your own website.
Trying to do it all in-house is a recipe for disaster unless your audience is REALLY small, like less than 10-15 viewers, depending upon your (upload) internet speeds.
Keep in mind, ISPs (at least in the USA) will heavily market and brag about their DOWNLOAD speeds, when they're selling you their services, but they don't make much mention of the UPLOAD speeds, which are usually a small fraction of the download speeds, so check yours before you literally crash the network trying to save the day. Try speedtest.net sometime when your internet is not in heavy use.
I’m a Mac guy. Yes, I understand PC seems to work better with livestream. We have a Mac running Propresenter for our worship. Newbie question here. Should the live computer be able to work with Propresenter computer? If I’m using Mac for Propresenter should I just stay with Mac for the livestream. Awesome vid, yep I’m here to cause of the COVID-19. :)
we have the same question... using the same setup...
You may be better off if you can dedicate a computer to doing the live streaming. For example, what we're going to be doing next Sunday (And successfully did last Sunday), was to capture the feeds and stream them on a separate computer, while the presentations were running on the same computer that they always run on. I know that it can be done with OBS, but I've never tried it with the commercial software packages he mentions here. I know that OBS can import network captures from Macs to get this kind of data, but we didn't use a Mac for that, we ran OBS on a Mac for streaming last Sunday, and next Sunday, it will be on a Linux box, with the presentations and announcements running on other Windows PCs, just because they're already pressed into service doing those tasks for the hall, and I can pull NDI captures from them into OBS for the live stream.
Thank you so much Jake. You are rock
Thank You for a great system setup we have used livestream mevo plus but I do like the focal zoom PTZ. KISS for Volunteers for ages 18 to 80
Does ecamm live auto sync between mixer audio and camera audio? In the video Jake's PTZ camera was at a different speed than his audio, but when he replayed his recording on youtube the audio synced properly. Did you Jake have to configure that or did the program automatically do that?
Excellent video - extremely helpful. Thank you, Jake!
Great. Not sure my church can afford all these but I am better equipped to advise the church.
YOU'RE A LIFESAVER!!!
Hi! I've enjoyed this video, however the camera you are reviewing at 6:30secs, the quality is actually a lesser video quality that whatever you are using for this video. Can you share the camera you are using for this actual video? Thanks
Shalom, thank you for the video! Nice and clear. Blessings
Very helpful. However, audio and video are in sync until you stream through the PTZ cam. Then the audio/video is out of sync. Possibly e-Camm is the culprit. Any insight into that?
Streamed for the first time last sunday as a test at my church. Had some A/V sync issues, the video camera we used has a 250 ms delay on the HDMI output. I delayed the audio input from X32 in OBS, but what if we add other cameras in the future that has different latency?
I ran it on the same laptop that run the projector software, and chroma keyed that output to put the text over the camera with a semitransparent black background. Looks really good! Our projector is in 4:3 though because the wall is too narrow for 16:9.
We have been recording audio of our services since the days of tape, and I think we’re ready to take the next step to stream live video. Target audience is for our church members and for other people to get an idea what our church is like on the inside.
I am the tech guy at my church, and have been for 10+ years since a kid. I’ve got this gift from God and it’s how I serve. Love your channel!
Buy any camcorder for 200.00 + a capture device and you are good to go. : )
Honestly, if latency isn't too big of a deal for you (it definitely isn't for our small church), this is exactly the way to go.
I have a big question. I'm trying to help my inlaws set up their church live stream and this video has been amazing. The only question is when it's time for worship the music quality is super distorted and I was hoping you would have some advise to fix the sound quality for worship?
Jake ... how do you guide pastors now that many of us are sheltered at home because of corona virus and don't necessarily have access to church sanctuary's, choirs, or even the media equipment. How can we do some amazing setup for worship from home?
Can you livestream on both Facebook and UA-cam on Ecamm at the same time?
Yes, you can multistream with Ecamm Live, but you'd need a Restream or Switchboard Live account.
With this system, could we add second camera, later? And what else would we need...a 'switcher'?
A video switch is a smart choice once You get past sticker shock. Then You'll wonder how You ever did without it.
Suggest Black Magic Video Switch. Bang for the Buck!
I am live-streaming from home. I am new to the space and I am trying to build this system for the house. What camera, and microphone do you recommend? Thank you for this video. it is awesome information.
Too bad ecamm live charges monthly/annually now instead of the one time fee like before. Are there any other platforms that only do a one time fee...?
Me! I want to setup live streaming for my band. Our show last night 3/13/20 was cancelled and I think tele-concerts is the new wave, sparked by 19, but I've been working on it for a while.
I am researching streaming, screens etc. for small churches
Can ecamm live broadcast to both youtube and Facebook simultaneously?
Hi Jake. Very informative. Very helpful. I get the principles you've outlined, and I think there's enough here to get me started. I just want to make 3 observations. 1) You address Mac and Windows, but act as though you've never heard of Linux. What's that about? I'd be happy if you said you are not familiar with Linux, but acknowledged the platform as a viable, if not a superior option to the 2 you've mentioned. 2) Open source software: You represent open source as being somewhat unreliable and inferior. This bags the question "how researched are you?" I can tell you that for everything that I need to do, I've always found a viable open source option on Linux... so please be kind to the good folks that build great software and give it away free. Please fix these 2 things. 3) I think that it's very helpful and strategic that you highlight the objectives you're working with here. You said you want a solution that's easy to use, and is affordable. That's important because that's how one can evaluate it and decide how optimal it is. I for instance would like to use multiple cameras and realise that's not within the objectives you've set, but I still found this very helpful. Great video! From the principles you've highlighted, I think I have enough to start formulating a solution I can run on my Linux laptop. Thank you, and God bless.
AMEN!!! 3 weeks ago, our church started with FB Live on an old iPad, and frankly, it was horrible. By last Sunday, we had moved on to a decent camera, a borrowed Macbook, & OBS, and even though we didn't know how to use most of what OBS can do, it was an order of magnitude better. By Palm Sunday, we're likely to be running OBS on a Linux box, and if Amazon can get us a HDMI to NDI adapter, we'll have multi-camera function, and by then, we'll have sorted out the overlays and more of the fancy features that make OBS such a wonderful choice. I even expect to have a private re-streaming server up on premises (also running Linux) to allow us to stream to multiple sites at the same time, and all using open source software. There's NO way this could have been done affordably using commercial software in that time-frame, if only because of the time needed to run a fundraising campaign to pay for it...
Really appreciate the info that you shared. It was very helpful. Thank you!
Thanks Jake! First time checking out your videos! Glad i stumbled on your channel
Thank you!
excellent primer! Thanks Jake!!!!
Great video, very informative
This video was exactly what I was looking for thank you
As a mac guy have you looked into the Wirecast program and blackmagic gear. Its more commercial price tags but just interested on your thoughts and comparisons
Nice and simple setup. Also saw your portable recent settup (juy2020) but looked like its high dollar. Can this setup run wirelessly? I have drones to run through ECAMM/VMIX. How could I run the drone cameras video cap device through the
RTMP server?
This was great thanks for sharing