You got there because you were Aegis' first roll of a new weapon and he thought you were a good roll but it turns out you're mediocre at best and he forgotten about you in his vault. It is not all sad though, Datto knows you're there and he is coming to delete you
For anyone who's watching this who isn't interested in starting to speedrun but was curious enough to watch the video: The weapon rolls/encounter techniques speedrunners use can still be helpful in normal level content. A good example would be: a good strategy I learned for Solo Flawless Prophecy was a way to dunk a single mote in to two spots for first encounter to get to boss dps faster so there was less risk of dying on the way. I still do this strat to speed up first encounter in LFGs despite already having the emblem I wanted.
I'm at 0:12 currently, and I am prepared to see the most random niche weapon rolls that are used for a very small part of a short raid encounter. @ me if I was wrong.
Never thought what a speed runner has in their vault as I basically don't care for speed runs. However, as it is an aegis video, there will still be a lot of good information told
This actually really helps with my own vault clearing process, certain rolls that I've kept and been clowned on have been validated by the fact that Aegis also has it
Aegis, as a vow farmer, I've used a lot of the information your videos have encased. It has genuinely made me a better player. Thank you for being a reliable source of information, and being so thorough.
Great video. I like how well you explain the value of certain attributes like spike grenades and emphasize getting better with a certain type of roll versus chasing every weapon roll.
This year I wanna learn all about speedrunning in D2 and I just found u.. and wow ur like a book that has all the info u need for speedrunning. That’s awesome. Love ur Speedrunning breakdowns bro 🔥🔥
love these kinds of videos! i like how you have a reason for weapons I never would have thought to use no matter how niche, not too keen with most speedrun things nowadays but hearing how some things like salvations grip, xeno, ex dris etc. all have some use is definitely interesting to me and kinda gives a new perspective to these weapons. some no matter how niche or useless to some, will always have some use somewhere else.
Great idea for a video! I love seeing people's vaults and how they decide what they keep. I'm also astounded that you have a half-empty vault. I need to make some more space lol
Prior to their Change i loved using Tarrabah with the 'Path of Burning Steps'. Made it really easy to gain a good amount of damage to use Ravenous Beast on a high health target. (Also good with Vex Mythoclast).. i miss old PoBS
I thought they added back the old perks on the 30th anniversary guns, even craftable versions, you should be able to just go craft that retraced path shoot to loot roll
Would really love a video on the best rolls for every craftable weapon. I know it would take a lot of effort but the payout would be enormous, especially coming from a top-end speedrunner.
40:28 tf2 see once we get new mountaintop, we need a glaive that looks like a shovel to pair with that to make the ultimate tf2 loadout. I do actually just use a dangerzone bipod rocket as my general GM rocket, due to the ability to both rocket jump (very fun) and the fact i can just shoot my feet to kill adds without dying and/or be able to kill a massive pile of adds much quicker, since they all die to 1 rocket bc large blast radius. granted, its probably way less useful than another rocket, but its nice in lfgs and rocket jumping is just fun lol
36:02 I wonder if undercurrent will beat out forbearance with the new chain reaction nerf. It might be worth keeping in case of the bungie nerfing chain into the ground and being pointless
At 20:00 you say pellet swapping with tractor and gjally is out of meta right now, what would be the alternative to this? tractoring at the beginning of dps and swapping of to a normal heavy then refreshing debuff with a void soul or grenade or something? And what is more effective to use with gjally?
34:40 One of biggest pet peeves in D2 is when people think you can only 1-shot with a special GL in PvP with spike nades... You can 1-shot body any normal guardian with any perk besides proxy. Unless with the recent health increase that has changed, this has always been the case and almost everyone gets this wrong
@@lolicomics Just tested it, spike nades still make no difference, it doesn't kill either way. A shame really, I thought gl's were balanced cause you actually had to land a direct hit for the 1-shot but whatever, i'll just stick to my fusion
37:07 If/when Corrective Measure gets reprised as craftable (likely with a slightly better perk pool than current state), do you think it could replace Commemoration for you?
You're probably busy going over the reveal or Onslaught, but the Dares of Eternity weapons got updated. You can now craft all the old perks on the weapons. So Shoot to Loot trace is back.
Not always a fan of speed runners, not cause I don’t they’re skillfully thought out and done, but whenever we are playing nightfalls,or just anything PVE as a group of 3-6 you get these player’s who blow through and race you into the event so fast that you have to play it again simply because your score sucked due to the lack of overall kills,or your getting dragged passed everything preventing you from just relaxing and enjoying the PVE event , or even completing your bounties because you can’t kill enough ADS,I think there really needs to be invisible walls (as some events have if you’ve not completed certain tasks) which are place between certain parts to prevent being dragged or players from racing through events ruining it for other chilled players..that said for those who wish to speed run, or allow player to drag you through a PVE event if your just falling behind or lost, then that’s ok to, just give players away to controller the narrative of the event they’re joining..just have a setting for normal as it is now, then a setting which blocks speed running which keeps every one relatively close, by placing a wall which takes everyone to get to within a set distance of the wall before it opens up, or killed all the ads ,just as it has already on campaigns which don’t come down until you’ve meet all the requirements to that point..anyway at least it’s a way to keep most everyone happy..
Yeah sometimes that can happen in public activities but most speedrunners tend to just do activities in private groups or alone, not everyone that does activities fast is a speedrunner in the strict sense
Great video. I’ve really wanted to see a video like this for a while. Quick question, how do you manage ammo when you are doing double special? I’ve heard you mention a few times that you very rarely use primary ammo weapons. With the nerf to double specials ammo economy I find it hard to run it. Is there a set of mods you use to maintain your ammo?
Not Aegis, but from a "casual, small-brain perspective," I find double special can work if (1) you have Special Finisher mod (plus some decent orb gen mods), and (2) two of your weapons have good ammo economy. E.g., run a machine gun and a trace, a trace and the rocket pistol, etc. Aegis and others can def give better help for more "optimal" play, but that's what I've found helps
I was watching your stream the other day and was wondering why is yours empty considering you do a lot of testing and other stuff, took a screen shot and decided to clean my vault... went from 600 -> 292 For weapons I deleted a ton of crafted and unused 1600 weapons, most of my vault was me saying "but what if bungie buff x perk or y frame?" and kept hoarding weapons ever since. For armor I sat one day and made every possible build that I'd use for each character, only made 6 builds per character and left 4 empty for speedrun hotswaps.
Could you go over the raid armor for stats? I’m holding onto a lot of raid armor because I want to get into speedrunning, but I have yet to find anything talking about stat spreads. I guess it would make sense that it just doesn’t matter that much (max mobility for movement needs and max resil for survival needs - or I could be completely wrong on that too), or maybe that the mods/builds matter SO much more that it’s more or less a moot point. Any advice?
The rotation he's planning probably won't even proc it. Edge Transit with the Envious/Cascade exploit that was discussed a while back basically means it exists to proc Cascade Point twice, so you'd only be shooting it three times (plus an Izi shot).
This video was really really helpful. The weapon tier lists are great, but this was almost like a cliff notes version of "what are REALLY the most useful weapons in the game and why?" Thanks!! I did have one question: In terms of kinetic slot shotguns for major chunking, do you think Heritage or Until It's Return has the edge? Not for a melee build or anything, just general purpose "I'm playing a dungeon and need to kill yellow bars asap" gameplay. I don't have the Heritage pattern yet and I'm wondering if it's worth the grind
Good question! They're both very similar, but UIR has better burst / total within the burst while Heritage has much better ammo economy if you use it sparingly shot for shot with Recombination. That is to say, both are good for different things! I will say, I haven't used Heritage in a while though...
is it good at all to get edge transit with both explosive light and bns so you can hot swap after 6 shots or am I burning the food with this cooking right now?
27:06 Ayo Bungie added old perks back to DoE weapons, crafted an Enhanced Shot to loot+Demo roll on mine just now👍 ....you guys probably already know about this though 😅
Is Tusk really worth farming though? I just don't really see it's edge over Forbearance, except it's like in the kinetic slot, and even then I don't really see why you'd want this slot to be occupied by a wave.
Kinetic slot is basically the biggest reason. You could run e.g. Polaris Lance or Div with a wave frame now, which you could do with NPE before but its perk pool was less desirable. Thinking Cenotaph warlocks who want to use Div or STL Retraced Path over the kinetic slot options probably benefit the most. Also it being Strand is useful in the context of some artifact perks, and it gets Slice if you want to debuff boss damage or generate tangles, and having an ammo economy option in Deconstruct is also cool (yes, I know it's buggy). Pound for pound, Forbearance is probably still a better gun, mainly because of Souldrinker, but also because the kinds of guns you're likely to pair it with (Izanagi's Burden mainly). But that's not the same thing as Tusk of the Boar being not worth farming.
@@life-destiny1196 okay, yeah I didn't see the option of Div Cenotaph, and it's a very good point actually. It still sounds great, but the desirability of the Kinetic slot weapons and Souldrinker are a bigger appeal to me than Tusk (and PVP as a whole)
This is the most unedited video I've ever seen he was clear and consise and did the whole thing in 1 go with no mistakes absolute legend
I would never edit 2 hours of stream footage into a 45 minute video never
I counted you did this in 5 breaths. Monka impressive.
@TheAegisRelic bro spliced his vault tour speedrun how could he do this to us
mans speedrunning videos - typical relic dub
@@Ransackt Gen z cringe
You, holding onto a shoot-to-loot retraced path from before crafting
Me, crafting shoot-to-loot retraced path after the into the light update
*record scratch* yeah, that's me. I bet you're wondering how I got in aegis' vault
You got there because you were Aegis' first roll of a new weapon and he thought you were a good roll but it turns out you're mediocre at best and he forgotten about you in his vault. It is not all sad though, Datto knows you're there and he is coming to delete you
@@lucienmoolman8017*_YOU CANNOT ESCAPE DATTO'S FURY_*
@@lucienmoolman8017I see you everywhere
Holy cringe
@@Zarrakon fr
Pretty interesting to see how your vault differs from the average player
Other than that I kinda want to see Datto's reaction to this
Datto has nothing on this guy
Wow, what a well articulated video. It’s great how clearly this guy speaks without making any mistakes!
Surely this video did not contain 300 takes and there are clearly no cuts throughout this seamless footage
@@TheAegisRelic surely it went well and there were no weapons that took 5 attempts :)
For anyone who's watching this who isn't interested in starting to speedrun but was curious enough to watch the video: The weapon rolls/encounter techniques speedrunners use can still be helpful in normal level content. A good example would be: a good strategy I learned for Solo Flawless Prophecy was a way to dunk a single mote in to two spots for first encounter to get to boss dps faster so there was less risk of dying on the way. I still do this strat to speed up first encounter in LFGs despite already having the emblem I wanted.
I'm at 0:12 currently, and I am prepared to see the most random niche weapon rolls that are used for a very small part of a short raid encounter. @ me if I was wrong.
Never thought what a speed runner has in their vault as I basically don't care for speed runs.
However, as it is an aegis video, there will still be a lot of good information told
This actually really helps with my own vault clearing process, certain rolls that I've kept and been clowned on have been validated by the fact that Aegis also has it
I wanna see datto review aegis's vault
There will be nothing to delete lmao
same he'd be like wtf why do you have this and aegis will have a super elaborate reasoning for it
@@9ballciety he probably ask why you don't have these
Aegis, as a vow farmer, I've used a lot of the information your videos have encased. It has genuinely made me a better player. Thank you for being a reliable source of information, and being so thorough.
Great video. I like how well you explain the value of certain attributes like spike grenades and emphasize getting better with a certain type of roll versus chasing every weapon roll.
This is perfect because the other day I was curious what sort of niche rolls to hold onto for this type of content. Thanks Hoss🤠🤠
38:45 god damn! I know there are Blinding GLs, but that shader brings that to another level xD
Do you know the name of the shader?
@@nickjobs9544 Yeah I want to know
This year I wanna learn all about speedrunning in D2 and I just found u.. and wow ur like a book that has all the info u need for speedrunning. That’s awesome. Love ur Speedrunning breakdowns bro 🔥🔥
Was waiting for this, Aegis. In a Master raid clan now and learning a lot! You're a big help. Thanks!
Happy to help!
I think what surprised me most was the over 3k cruicble kills on ace
For anyone watching this video after the release of Into The Light, Retraced Path can now be crafted with Shoot To Loot
love these kinds of videos! i like how you have a reason for weapons I never would have thought to use no matter how niche, not too keen with most speedrun things nowadays but hearing how some things like salvations grip, xeno, ex dris etc. all have some use is definitely interesting to me and kinda gives a new perspective to these weapons. some no matter how niche or useless to some, will always have some use somewhere else.
Great idea for a video! I love seeing people's vaults and how they decide what they keep. I'm also astounded that you have a half-empty vault. I need to make some more space lol
Removed 95% of the stream for this edit 💀
Ayaya...
Watching this live was funny af I know for a fact you took at least 3-4 hours just cutting stuff out😂
18:38 duality mentioned 🗣️🗣️💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥 I love succession
if u dont have succesion or mountaintop, how have u beaten duality?!?!?
Where’s my tier list tier list
Holy shit he actually edited it
14:30 seeing xenophage being used in speedruns will always remind me 7:29 seraph shield wr with perfect sync on xeno shots at the end lol
Imagine some dude loading into last wish with a whole inventory of apex predators with different rolls lmao
These are the kind of videos I love. I just listen to them while working or eating lmao.
10:40 check out mantle of battle harmony. I've been hearing that it outpaces phoenix in terms of super regen + x4 surge when super full on.
It's weapon kill-dependent but yeah that's planned
I have my Until it Return in my vault collecting dust, and I'm def going to try out that auto-loading/cascade roll.
Prior to their Change i loved using Tarrabah with the 'Path of Burning Steps'. Made it really easy to gain a good amount of damage to use Ravenous Beast on a high health target. (Also good with Vex Mythoclast).. i miss old PoBS
Osteo with ALMOST no kills:
Enemies Defeated: 0
😂😂
:)
I'm beginning to feel like a yap god - Aegis
I thought they added back the old perks on the 30th anniversary guns, even craftable versions, you should be able to just go craft that retraced path shoot to loot roll
Yep, video soon!
Would really love a video on the best rolls for every craftable weapon. I know it would take a lot of effort but the payout would be enormous, especially coming from a top-end speedrunner.
Go watch his endgame godroll video
I have an endgame spreadsheet in my drive folder with pref. perks for every special/power weapon
One day my vault is gonna look like that 😞 great video btw 10/10 🙂↕️
Very informative to someone just starting to speed run solo content
40:28 tf2 see once we get new mountaintop, we need a glaive that looks like a shovel to pair with that to make the ultimate tf2 loadout. I do actually just use a dangerzone bipod rocket as my general GM rocket, due to the ability to both rocket jump (very fun) and the fact i can just shoot my feet to kill adds without dying and/or be able to kill a massive pile of adds much quicker, since they all die to 1 rocket bc large blast radius. granted, its probably way less useful than another rocket, but its nice in lfgs and rocket jumping is just fun lol
Datto shitting his drawers after seeing someone explain every weapon in their vault
I'm not even that interested in the topic but i enjoy your stuff so much that i enjoyed the video anyway. Blessed Destiny channel
I appreciate that!
Fwiw, unsure if it's noted in a recent patch notes blog or anything but they did add "Shoot to loot" onto the crafted version of Retraced Path.
I'm not a speed runner or clear farmer etc... but this video was still quite insightful. Lookin like a sub
Impressive how often our man has gone flawless in Trials (adept weapons + Trials mementos)
the goat with a banger vid the day before update 🔥
36:02 I wonder if undercurrent will beat out forbearance with the new chain reaction nerf. It might be worth keeping in case of the bungie nerfing chain into the ground and being pointless
I doubt it
luna regolith triggering flint striker in 1 shot is hilarious i did not know that lol
At 20:00 you say pellet swapping with tractor and gjally is out of meta right now, what would be the alternative to this? tractoring at the beginning of dps and swapping of to a normal heavy then refreshing debuff with a void soul or grenade or something? And what is more effective to use with gjally?
Nah like pellets specifically, you can use BnS Supremacy instead
can't wait for Aegis to cook with the new subclass combinations and exotic class armour perks
Btw I think they just added old perks back onto Dares weapons, including Shoot to Loot on Retraced. Mentioned on today's patch notes!
Surely he did this video in one take and did not lose his mind!
:D
With the most recent patch retraced paths aswell as the other weapons have their old perks in their pools again
34:40 One of biggest pet peeves in D2 is when people think you can only 1-shot with a special GL in PvP with spike nades... You can 1-shot body any normal guardian with any perk besides proxy. Unless with the recent health increase that has changed, this has always been the case and almost everyone gets this wrong
It changed
also the point of that gun is to rat king swap with a craftable (not sure why it has spike over prox)
@@lolicomics Just tested it, spike nades still make no difference, it doesn't kill either way. A shame really, I thought gl's were balanced cause you actually had to land a direct hit for the 1-shot but whatever, i'll just stick to my fusion
@@Eztra326 They are getting fixed look at the recent twids
37:07 If/when Corrective Measure gets reprised as craftable (likely with a slightly better perk pool than current state), do you think it could replace Commemoration for you?
Yeah for sure
You can craft Shoot to Loot on Retraced Path now
You're probably busy going over the reveal or Onslaught, but the Dares of Eternity weapons got updated. You can now craft all the old perks on the weapons. So Shoot to Loot trace is back.
24:26 is boss spec better than adept big ones? (wardens law)
Nah I just forgot to put the adept mod on lol
27:01 Fine wine, 1 free vault space even after today
Can you make an updated DPS rotation guide before Final Shaoe comes out?
Definitely will no worries :P
And then today when Into the Light was released, Bungie decided to give back some of the Dares weapons’ perks. StL on crafted Retraced Path!
Would love to see a vault cleaning video!
What about Frozen Orbit as an option for an aggressive void sniper for the edge transit rotation?
Can't reproc Cascade quickly with an aggressive
Not always a fan of speed runners, not cause I don’t they’re skillfully thought out and done, but whenever we are playing nightfalls,or just anything PVE as a group of 3-6 you get these player’s who blow through and race you into the event so fast that you have to play it again simply because your score sucked due to the lack of overall kills,or your getting dragged passed everything preventing you from just relaxing and enjoying the PVE event , or even completing your bounties because you can’t kill enough ADS,I think there really needs to be invisible walls (as some events have if you’ve not completed certain tasks) which are place between certain parts to prevent being dragged or players from racing through events ruining it for other chilled players..that said for those who wish to speed run, or allow player to drag you through a PVE event if your just falling behind or lost, then that’s ok to, just give players away to controller the narrative of the event they’re joining..just have a setting for normal as it is now, then a setting which blocks speed running which keeps every one relatively close, by placing a wall which takes everyone to get to within a set distance of the wall before it opens up, or killed all the ads ,just as it has already on campaigns which don’t come down until you’ve meet all the requirements to that point..anyway at least it’s a way to keep most everyone happy..
Yeah sometimes that can happen in public activities but most speedrunners tend to just do activities in private groups or alone, not everyone that does activities fast is a speedrunner in the strict sense
Great video. I’ve really wanted to see a video like this for a while. Quick question, how do you manage ammo when you are doing double special? I’ve heard you mention a few times that you very rarely use primary ammo weapons. With the nerf to double specials ammo economy I find it hard to run it. Is there a set of mods you use to maintain your ammo?
Not Aegis, but from a "casual, small-brain perspective," I find double special can work if (1) you have Special Finisher mod (plus some decent orb gen mods), and (2) two of your weapons have good ammo economy. E.g., run a machine gun and a trace, a trace and the rocket pistol, etc. Aegis and others can def give better help for more "optimal" play, but that's what I've found helps
Video soonish!
I was watching your stream the other day and was wondering why is yours empty considering you do a lot of testing and other stuff, took a screen shot and decided to clean my vault...
went from 600 -> 292
For weapons I deleted a ton of crafted and unused 1600 weapons, most of my vault was me saying "but what if bungie buff x perk or y frame?" and kept hoarding weapons ever since.
For armor I sat one day and made every possible build that I'd use for each character, only made 6 builds per character and left 4 empty for speedrun hotswaps.
Bro has the pressurized precision roll I’ve been chasing for multiple iron banners…. No luck still
another aegis video letsgoo!
33:22 shader looks huge, what is it?
Crucible Horizon
Best in class UA-camrs , Thx @Aegis
00:00 not once in my life but the video sounded fun 😭
more aegis slop we will be watching
Datto colab when
My forbearance is a level 1400 and I have over 200k kills on it. I’ll never put it away. Greatest legendary weapon to ever be in Destiny.
This is a speed run tour of a speed runner
looking forward for the "build with every single exotic" video!
how to effectively clean your vault: let datto do it
Hey any chance you could add a small update? I’m struggling with ergo and class item rolls
I have a video on Ergo, I think most people's intuition on class item rolls is correct at this point
What’s your shader on Koraxis’s Distress? Looks so sick!!!
Ego Malign
@@TheAegisRelic Thanks!
Brb going to do a vault purge
Could you go over the raid armor for stats? I’m holding onto a lot of raid armor because I want to get into speedrunning, but I have yet to find anything talking about stat spreads. I guess it would make sense that it just doesn’t matter that much (max mobility for movement needs and max resil for survival needs - or I could be completely wrong on that too), or maybe that the mods/builds matter SO much more that it’s more or less a moot point. Any advice?
Mob/Disc is all you need for runs usually
@@TheAegisRelic Thank you. I'll just have to practice more with low resil/recov
Great video man love it!
So you might be wondering what this obscure wepon is doing in my vault, well...
*looks at my own vault*. Ugh. I'm disgusting.
Why do you have a stability masterwork on the swordbreaker instead of handling?
I do?
It might be because it's adept
I know you said you wanted to surge match with fathers sins but why not use focused fury on it?
The rotation he's planning probably won't even proc it. Edge Transit with the Envious/Cascade exploit that was discussed a while back basically means it exists to proc Cascade Point twice, so you'd only be shooting it three times (plus an Izi shot).
2 shots don't proc Fury :(
can you please tell me what legendary kinetic trace rifles we have lol??? im confused about this......
There's two kinetic slot traces, no kinetic affinity though
This video was really really helpful. The weapon tier lists are great, but this was almost like a cliff notes version of "what are REALLY the most useful weapons in the game and why?" Thanks!!
I did have one question: In terms of kinetic slot shotguns for major chunking, do you think Heritage or Until It's Return has the edge? Not for a melee build or anything, just general purpose "I'm playing a dungeon and need to kill yellow bars asap" gameplay. I don't have the Heritage pattern yet and I'm wondering if it's worth the grind
Good question! They're both very similar, but UIR has better burst / total within the burst while Heritage has much better ammo economy if you use it sparingly shot for shot with Recombination. That is to say, both are good for different things! I will say, I haven't used Heritage in a while though...
@@TheAegisRelicthank you! That helps clears up the different use cases a ton!
Shoot to loot is back on Retraced path!
But what's inside a destiny 2 speedrunner's brain? Let me in there
is it good at all to get edge transit with both explosive light and bns so you can hot swap after 6 shots or am I burning the food with this cooking right now?
Yeah that's fine as well, Deconstruct also fine
"I thought I might show you some dim filters that you might find interesting" wow that sounds very familiar not sure why..
Inspired by goats
thoughts on shoot to loot being craftable on retraced now?
Good! Video soon
I'm 3500 hrs in the Game and still haven't had these many weapons; it looks like this Game is his whole life 🤯🤯
The most efficiently way to clean your vault is to call datto
Rip Cataphract, welcome Edge Transit
didnt expect to get flashbanged by koraxis' distress in this video (good shader choice)
What shader is that?
Not related to the video that much but conditional finality will be indirectly buffed when prismatic comes out
I think this guy might do garden speed runs
27:06 Ayo Bungie added old perks back to DoE weapons, crafted an Enhanced Shot to loot+Demo roll on mine just now👍
....you guys probably already know about this though 😅
Is Tusk really worth farming though? I just don't really see it's edge over Forbearance, except it's like in the kinetic slot, and even then I don't really see why you'd want this slot to be occupied by a wave.
Kinetic slot is basically the biggest reason. You could run e.g. Polaris Lance or Div with a wave frame now, which you could do with NPE before but its perk pool was less desirable. Thinking Cenotaph warlocks who want to use Div or STL Retraced Path over the kinetic slot options probably benefit the most. Also it being Strand is useful in the context of some artifact perks, and it gets Slice if you want to debuff boss damage or generate tangles, and having an ammo economy option in Deconstruct is also cool (yes, I know it's buggy).
Pound for pound, Forbearance is probably still a better gun, mainly because of Souldrinker, but also because the kinds of guns you're likely to pair it with (Izanagi's Burden mainly). But that's not the same thing as Tusk of the Boar being not worth farming.
@@life-destiny1196 okay, yeah I didn't see the option of Div Cenotaph, and it's a very good point actually. It still sounds great, but the desirability of the Kinetic slot weapons and Souldrinker are a bigger appeal to me than Tusk (and PVP as a whole)
What's your take in artifice armor? Is it the end all be all or is high spiked good stated armor just better?
Very good, helps you microcorrect for exotic stat variation