NASSER EL SONBATY: REAL '97 OLYMPIA CHAMP?
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Dave Palumbo addresses the 1997 Olympia, which was won by Dorian Yates (his 6th and final Olympia title). That said, many, including Dave think there was another competitor on that stage that may have been worthy of the Sandow.
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1997 was the biggest robbery in bodybuilding history, RIP Nasser
The judging was rigged.
Columbu win in 81 was way worse
@hesham samir tom, danny
The whole world saw the real champion(nassar )but the judges couldn't see🥴
El Assassino, I saw the 1983 Mr. Olympia when I was a young teen and Sammir Bannout won when it should of been clearly Bertil Fox in my opinion. Bertil was built beyond belief in my opinion and it was not even close. Judges did not see it that way though. Bertil Fox finished 5th which was a crime. Nobody in the audience or at home could believe it. I also thought Mr. Olympia 1998 contest -Flexx Wheeler was better than Ronnie Coleman and should of won. But finished second. All the best.
Nasser was the clear winner .
@Tyrannosaurus Sex it not a bout synthol everybody was on it
Not so clear but possible
RIP NASSER .. First IFBB PRO I met in 1999 in Lafayette Louisiana with Monica Brant. Gave me extra autographed pics for free and chatted with me for an hour knowing in 2 weeks it was my first competition, Greater Gulf States.. Such class from both athletes to show they cared about the passion I had, and I won novice Heavyweight! Thank you Dave for sharing. Extremely nice, incredible people that created an awesome memory for me to live with.
Yeah, Nasser was definitely better that year. Politics at its best.
and you know nothing about BB
Yeah if he was better conditioned I reckon his body parts were full and massive but look at his arms look like Synthol!!!
That's totally crazy Dave was never a pro. In this era he'd be a pro in a heartbeat. Back then they gave out like 5 pro cards a year. Now it's like 5 a show
Nasser Sir you are a legend 💔😞 R.I.P
Nikipedia Strength and Power fans need to consider all his vintage topics come from old Flex and MD articles. Don't compare Dave to him. Dave actually knew these guys. Trained with them. Did drugs with them. Saw them personally on stage. Even guest possed with many of them, including Ronnie Coleman. Dave has forgotten more about bodybuilding than Nikipedia will ever know.
Very true. I really like Nick...I think he's a cool kid. But yes, he tends to split off stats and such like a kid reading a Weider rag. His research is sloppy at best. Then again, in this day and age, that seems part for the course.
That's an interesting perspective on Nick's. I do enjoy Dave because he has a ton of knowledge, no question. Nick's strength and power is there so I can get my bodybuilding news and I did enjoy his bodybuilding history videos
You are 100% right any fool can read off a Google search and hit the record button on a camera. Being involved in the sport and knowing all the legends is a totally different thing.
So true
Nick's Google and Power
Your Nasser impression lol well done 👍🤣
NASSER WON PERIOD !!!!!!!!!
William Smith what a gross prize.
no he didnt lol
dorian still won 4 mandtaories imo, front and back lat spread, back double bi and side triceps
yes he barely won some of those poses, but still won
nasser killed this...what are you talking about LOL
William Smith His over all condition was better.
One point no back he was half a bodybuilder
How in the world could the judges completely overlook Dorian's left arm??
Jay Smith both his arms
They were stupid judges who were afraid to make the right call. Hopefully they are retired from judging or fired from judging. Who knows.
Madness.
Jay Smith politics
They didn't. There's 7 mandatory poses and they judged Dorian Yates won more. Simple.
Nasser was my idol in bodybuilding when I was 16 and just started. Thank you so much Dave for sharing memories about him.
As much I admire and respect Dorian, I think Dave is spot on here, Nasser deserved that Olympia
Nassir looked incredible
You can see how much Dave get emotional, excited and happy whenever he speaks about his friend Nasser
Nasser definitely won that show. But as they say: Bodybuilding & politics go hand and hand.
I think this was amazing of Dave to do. A very classy and respectful moment. The smile in his face reminiscing over the events shows he was genuinely feeling it in his heart and had no hard feelings and learned to like Nasser for who he was.
Nasser was amazing. He was the first guy that was able to put extreme mass and shape together for a freaky, yet pleasing physique to the eye. Haney kind of did it...but I wouldn't consider Lee to be a mass monster.
It is always great to hear Nasser talk. Nasser and Lee Priest are my two favorite bodybuilders. The fun thing about having those two as your favorites is that they aren't only entertaining on the stage...but off of the stage, they are pure insanity. Insanity in a good way.
Pleasing to the eye? He was one of the first guys to have a huge gut.
lol - guy had a thick waist.
@@blackdeath5134 were is it rassict
"Carjacking by the Ninjas" was one of the BEST stories ever in bodybuilding...
Great video Dave! Please do continue to make these types of videos. The fact that you knew these guys firsthand and you can share your personal opinions based on that is really great.
Dave!! My man!! Great video brother keep em coming!! Idk why but the end of this video almost made me choke up for a second! R.I.P Nasser.
Ive been waiting for this video forever!!!
1:26 That Nasser El Sonbaty impression tho lmaoo 😂
Nasser should've won Mr Olympia in 96 and 97.96 Olympia was his best look ever but got disqualified for diuretics
Yeah, but he should have won it first and then get disqualified. The judges didn't know he would get disqualified when they placed him 3rd.
Thanks for the lovely video Dave. Please make a brainstorm on Nasser stories and make videos on them all :D
Nicely done Dave, that impression was right on lol
Love the insight on the historical vids Dave.
I could listen to your Nasser impressions all day. ;)
Thanks a lot Dave for your honest review and feedback, you’re great person to say so especially Dorian is still alive and Nasser passed away. RIP Nasser.
many thanks for this wonderful material about Nasser
Dave, thank you so much for bringing this interesting topic and rememberingNasser El Sombaty. He was a great athlete with great charisma. They dont recollect him these days anymore but you just did. He definitely deserved it and I agree he had tremendous shape at the end of 97 - beginning of 98 when he won Arnold Classic. I am also a true fan of Dorian, but, as you mentioned, Nasser was better that night! He deserved 1st place.
Keep doing these kind of videos
I was at that show and yes Nassar should have won.
Damn did u really see it?
@@ohmy9261 yes during 1990's I worked for one of the protein companies and was there at a booth all the major shows IFBB and NPC.
@@KrishnapriyaMaa Damn how old is u?
@@ohmy9261 LOL
@@ohmy9261 old enough to remember
*I think in 97 Nasser could win*
Great discussion Dave, please do more controversial wins.
Thanks for the good work
Its incredible how politics have itspart on this contests. Nasser won for sure. This kind of stuff takes away credibility from the show
Nasser won outright! I liked Nasser! Very intelligent person.
Black eye the Olympia will always have.Nasser is the clear winner!
Yes Nasser is a clear synthol user.
@@thehomefront1905 most of body builders use it and ronnie coleman said nasser shoud have won
Dave impression of Nasser was spot on!
Nasser - the guy that spent over 100,000 a year on "supplements" and died as a result at the age of 47....Yates was the first mass monster and El Sonbatty was the first mass user.....
yep dorian was the first mass monster,and bought a new physique to bodybuilding. dorian yates changed bodybuilding and when it came to his diets,poses and training. he did it all him self,never had a coach or a nutritionist. he studied and read lots of books,basicly did it all him self,and theres his true blood and guts video which was hardcore with heavy duty poundages. many top pro bodybuilders would watch dorian's blood and guts video before hitting the gym... it surely was the best hard core video of all time. dorian yates high intensity training at it's best.....
Even if Dorian didn't have any injuries and was at his biggest Nasser in my opinion looked way better, more asthetic midsection,bigger fuller chest and overall bigger and better developed arms. Easily the winner, asthetic mass monster.
Loved this video 🙃👍
Nasser should of won this Olympia hands down. Its ashame he left this world without having been given the show he deserved to win.
Well unfortunately since this video was made the HD footage from the prejudging and posing routines have been uploaded, and now you can can clearly see why Dorian won, infact the only person who was robbed in 97 was Kevin Levrone.
Dave you totally need to get Dorian on an interview!
You are true friend always love big nasir
Yates back still looked far better than anyone's that year but that was the only body part.
Nasser was better that year because Yates suffered injuries and those showed.
Nasser definitely should have won that show.
Idc What People Say Dave , Great Video !!! Yes There Are Videos Out There About Nasser , But How Many Can Say They Knew Him ??? Well Done !!!
Nassere won mr olympia 97,this is a fact!!!everyone know this!
Love it and agree 110%!!
The photos from the 97 Olympia are crap. If you really want to see why Dorian won, watch the video. Nasser beat Dorian in the front double biceps and side chest. But Dorian smoked all the other compulsories.
Yep.
great Nasser impression! He was a flawed but great man. You still show him repsect!
It should be remembered that Dorian was famous for having a dry, grainy look on stage which no one in his era could consistently replicate. Almost every pro at the time stated that you had to see him in real life to appreciate it because photography never did his physique any justice, despite some of the really good pics of him in circulation. As such, it's difficult to judge the comparisons between the two in this video but it would appear Nasser had the edge. I reckon he dialled in perfectly for this show whilst Dorian came in sub-par as a competitor riddled with injury in his mid 30s thinking about retirement.
R.i.p to the uncrowned king nasser el sonbaty
Nasser's mass was legendary, never seen such mass on one of bodybuildings legends.
There's no WAY Yates would ever admit to losing that Olympia to Nassar. His ego is much too big for that.
What was the last show for Nasser? Witch year?
Lol front double photos come on dave that ws nasser at 1998 olympia lol why i know the background was the 1998 olympia stage
Hi Dave, Great video. Don't you think Dorian should hand back his Sandow and posthumously award it to Nassar? I've always thought that. He can't possibly think he won 6 titles and not give the last one a thought, he got lucky.
Arnie..Franco...Cutler going to hand one of theirs back too ??
Get real
Dorian had one injury ravaged arm. Nasser had a crap back. Which one counts for more? Plus if people are gonna nit pick, there have been Olympia winners with bodyparts missing completely. Namely Ronnie and Dexter with no calves, Franco who was basically just a chest and back, Arnold who had no hamstrings etc etc etc.
This is a great Video. So many BBs go on too long trying to win the Olympia. They sacrifice their lives, only to be screwed by corrupt judges and have their lifelong dreams taken away.
Upload that damn interview with Jason huh Dave !!!!!!!
In one word: NASSER.
judges don't like obvious synthol
I agree, Nasser's arms looked too 'fake' and full of oil (almost like a Photoshopped effect). The judges read right through it, they're not stupid.
@@YeahRight825 yes they like no arm at all like dorian
@@zeroronaldo9313 Yes, you're right, they'd rather have a real no arm than a fake big arm.
I agree with your assessment Dave. He dominated Dorian in 1997. Nasser also looked amazing in 1996 against a very depleted Dorian who was nowhere as full, dry and grainy as he had been in previous years.
I do tend to agree that Nasser was better overall. I think the difference from their back shots was hardly close;, however, if you examine more pics and video, Dorian's back was actually bigger than ever. My best buddy was at the show and said something similar -- that is, words to the effect that Dorian was off but his back was beyond crazy.
I wonder if Nasser was marked down for loading his arms up with oil? I think it's painfully obvious, especially in his biceps. The whole shape of them changed from previous years, especially from up to and including 1995 (and before someone says otherwise, Nasser initially supersized in '95, so it ain't as if he gained so much weight from then to '97 to warrant that kind of huge arm growth).I
I also disagree with Dave inasmuch as I think Nasser looked a good bit better in '96, the year he flunked the diuretics test. He was good in '97 and perhaps a little bigger, but the aforementioned oil use and relative lack of sharpness he had in '96 ... well. You get the idea.
Nasser was great!
Great show 98 Mr. Olympia I was there a lot of people crying in the audience when Ronnie won very emotional, good times
Yes he was easily.
Would have been great to have a dave and nasser interview, rip nasser.
So true ,uncrowned nasaer 😢
If you ever read the interview of Nasser where he talks about Milos and Matt Kovacs it is so funny it will make you cry I haven't laughed that hard very many times in my entire life it's one of the funniest things I've ever read in my life
Would have been interesting to see how the judging went in 98' had Nasser won 97' (like he should have). Having the extra bonus points that being a Mr. Olympia seems to bring may have been enough for him to get the nod over Ronnie.
I saw flex the saturday prior to the 0 @the firehouse cafe in venice. He was driving his black suburban with his personalized licence plates "wheeler"....no ninjas.😃
Nasser is the Steven Seagal of bodybuilding
Aaron Blossfield LMAAO
Aaron Blossfield nick is for little kids
Aaron Blossfield what? Idiot
That makes absolutely no sense. Please stop making jokes they aren't funny.
Dude you're trying way to hard. Go get a job or do something with your life besides troll you fucking nitwit.
Mikey,mike- your awesome Dave👍
Trbute.....🙏🙏🙏🙏naserlsanbati...🙌🙌
Just cz he was Muslim and was a humble guy who believed in achievements through his hard work rather than inviting the judges for some dinner
I loved this video l. Nasser was robbed and I think he died of a broken heart. The IFBB should make him a honorary Mr. Olympia and admit they made a mistake. Political fuckers.
Yes.
I used to believe the Nasser hype, but Nasser never had an Olympian quality back. Dorian was never known for his arms, so I think detrimental effect the tears had were overstated. I watched a comparison of the two physiques in 97’’ and I’d still give the Sandow to Dorian at his worse.
I think Dorian would do *RX* . I really hope he gets on the show.
btw do a *IRON DEBATE* with Bostin and Coach Trevor from EA, battle of the younglings lol
Totally agree! Nasser doesn’t get enough love , but dude was always , always peeled , conditioned and sized! Nasser could have won another besides the uncrowned 97 Olympia! And I love Dorian , but you should not be able to win an Olympia with torn muscles and looking flat🤷🏼♂️. Nasser is the 97 Olympia champion to me
What do you say to justify that if your the judges?
.. Dorian DESTROYED Nassar from the back
i met Nasser 3 times, very nice guy. Would take the time to talk to you. Saw him guest pose twice in Tucson.
Very good video Dave With many unknown details
Thatd be cool if Dave did the pose by pose comparison of Nasser and Dorian cominatory as Nasser 😀
Nasser's mid section was way better than Yates' too. Shame he didnt win that year! He got robbed.
i have seen the video that said Yates says he clearly beat Nasser from the back. And Dorian says himself deserved to win
Dave if you run out of toilet paper you can use that redcon one shirt for it that company is the biggest posers on the planet.
Nasser was robbed
Love Dorian, but yes it should have gone to Nassir
More of these vids please....focus on the biggest robberies.
I'm going to tell you the reason why Nasser didn't won in 97, BIG detail that Dave did not mention, despite other facts the main one was that the judges realized that Nasser was using SEO's (could be Synthol) on his arms (can clearly be seen in front double biceps), shoulders, etc. On the other side Dorian physique was authentic, clean of SEO's, same exact thing happened to Flex on the Olympia that Ronnie won in 98. One thing is to use steroids, GH, etc to boost your own muscle to grow and other thing is cheating by using oils or implants where you are using external substances to increase muscle size which are not muscle. When comes to professional bodybuilding that's cheating.
Patu well said. not enough people mention the synthol use both nasser and flex wheeler both used it and got second it's obvious why they placed second. and maybe Kevin levrone used a bit at one point
You nailed it my friend.
Bunch of 🤏🧠🤡
that was the year i started getting into bodybuilding, knowing nothing about the sport looking at my first issue of flex ever I thought nasser was bigger and leaner then yates
I thought Kevin won the show as he may have been robbed also in 1994.
No question.. 97 was Nasser all the way.
Dying to win a Beauty pageant for men
Another comparision based on 360p photo shots. Show Dorian in full hd from that year and one thing becomes obvious. Nasser was baloon like compared to granite muscles od Yates.
the first pic of nasser is from 1998!
Flex claims he got car jack from the ninjas😂