Ronnie Coleman vs Dorian Yates: VERSUS Virtual Posedown- Who was the Best?

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
  • Dave Palumbo and Chris Aceto recap the careers of 6x Mr Olympia Dorian Yates and 8x Mr Olympia Ronnie Coleman in this latest installment of Rx Muscle's VERSUS. While they competed a decade apart, most fans dreamof seeing these two at their absolute best onstage against each other. Palumbo and Aceto score pose-by-pose between these two giants and decide who would have won in the ultimatel Mr Olympia showdown.

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  • @josharguijo1189
    @josharguijo1189 6 років тому +42

    7:31 awkward moment when he’s trying to avoid saying Palumboism

  • @dobsr1184
    @dobsr1184 6 років тому +26

    Dorian no doubt the man!!

    • @AjL727
      @AjL727 Рік тому +1

      Not even close

  • @rockywaters9592
    @rockywaters9592 5 років тому +13

    Another vote for the Shadow from me.

  • @surajthakur233
    @surajthakur233 4 роки тому +9

    Ronnie is the Greatest bodybuilder ever.

  • @paulbrendan8034
    @paulbrendan8034 5 років тому +10

    Dorian was chiseld out of granite

  • @sicnarfyhael5330
    @sicnarfyhael5330 4 роки тому +14

    Idk it’s tough, but I’d have to take Yates. His conditioning was next level. I think Yates was more grit than gear, and I think Coleman was more gear than grit, even with the yelling “light weight” lol

    • @mikerude5073
      @mikerude5073 Рік тому

      Idk man, Ronnie gritted himself into Walt Jr. mode and said he'd grit it even more if he could change anything

  • @jankosakotic7003
    @jankosakotic7003 7 років тому +45

    still dont get why people prefer ronnies 03 shape, he looked the best in 99 in my opinion

    • @myflesh10
      @myflesh10 5 років тому

      99 was def one of the best for him, although I prefer many of his poses in 03 I think his front double bicep was better in 99

    • @endzojpro5698
      @endzojpro5698 5 років тому

      Janko Sakotic ua-cam.com/video/I9iSZCBVzcI/v-deo.html

    • @shrikantmaknikar4619
      @shrikantmaknikar4619 4 роки тому +1

      He Added extra mass in 2003

    • @BruteStrength99
      @BruteStrength99 4 роки тому +1

      Because his back wasn't fully developed until 2003

    • @sabihbinmasood
      @sabihbinmasood 3 роки тому +1

      He was more symmetrical and conditioned in 99 but 03 Ron had too much of a freak factor. But for sure 98,99 were better versions of Big Ron.

  • @cabrinmuhanga2852
    @cabrinmuhanga2852 3 роки тому +4

    Chris just loves Dorian

  • @SomeBodyIUsedToKnow8
    @SomeBodyIUsedToKnow8 7 років тому +97

    Dorian calves = FUAAAAAAARK

    • @FilipDropulic
      @FilipDropulic 7 років тому +1

      SomeBodyIUsedToKnow FUUUUAAARKKK 😁💙

    • @Braz438
      @Braz438 4 роки тому

      Dorian " NO ARMS"
      KK

    • @matthewtuakolo8049
      @matthewtuakolo8049 4 роки тому +2

      @@Braz438 still bigger than yours lmao

  • @BeamRider100
    @BeamRider100 7 років тому +17

    Please interview Dorian about how he achieved the rapid fat loss from off season and got so tight at the end.

    • @JohnnyStyles
      @JohnnyStyles 7 років тому +9

      We have to I agree!!!

    • @2210grace
      @2210grace 5 років тому

      BeamRider100 trenbolone acetate my mate,,, or finaplix as it was known then ,,,,not many pole kniw Dorian took the exact steroiuds arnie took but slung trenbolone into the fire aswel ,,,,,hence the loosing body fat so easy,,,,,,,cos ou can use trend to bulk and cut or jus as a cutting compound

  • @jebberjeb
    @jebberjeb 7 років тому +5

    I saw Dorian guest pose in Tampa in 97. I was a senior in HS. He walked out and posed for 30 seconds and the crowd was still dead silent except for the brief gasp heard when he first came out. So he turns and pretends to walk off and the place just erupted.

  • @standepain
    @standepain 6 років тому +3

    Dorian:
    Back- 10
    Bi's- 6
    forearms- 10
    triceps- 9
    chest- 9
    Shoulders- 8
    Quads- 9
    Calves- 10
    Conditioning- 10
    Total -- 82 out of 90
    Ronnie:
    Back - 10
    Bi's- 10
    Forearms- 8
    triceps-8
    chest- 9
    Shoulders-9
    quads 10
    calves- 4
    Conditioning- 8
    Total-- 76 of 90

    • @standepain
      @standepain 6 років тому +2

      OH! Glutes and hamstrings
      Dorian-9
      Ronnie-10
      Totals
      Yates- 91 of 100
      Ronnie- 86 of 100

    • @joes4715
      @joes4715 6 років тому

      Antarctic Vortex this is perfect !

    • @TheLusianPopa
      @TheLusianPopa 5 років тому

      cool breakdown, but id say structure should be counted too, and dorian has a slight edge there, wider clavicles and deeper ribcage, he also has a wider waist though

  • @tjmendoza7864
    @tjmendoza7864 7 років тому +35

    8x's. Enough said!

    • @smattgoss
      @smattgoss 4 роки тому +3

      Stupid comment

    • @Braz438
      @Braz438 4 роки тому

      @@smattgoss fuk

    • @MrBoothyboy1988
      @MrBoothyboy1988 4 роки тому +2

      smattgoss how is that a stupid comment? I can’t believe the comments here in the comment section, no one is looking at it objectively. I prefer Dorian over Ronnie but objectively speaking Ronnie would wipe the floor with Yates when both in their primes.

    • @lindseyormsbee
      @lindseyormsbee 4 роки тому

      Lol you realize Dorian beat Ronnie many, many times don't you??? 😂😂😂

    • @MrBoothyboy1988
      @MrBoothyboy1988 3 роки тому +1

      Lindsey Ormsbee you do realise that Ronnie wasn’t in his prime at that time and name the Olympia’s where that actually happened

  • @nikkinonose9316
    @nikkinonose9316 7 років тому +15

    Dorian was first to compete at over 250lbs and IN CONDITION ! NO Palumboism! Dorian Yates GOAT hands down!

    • @roycurtis5669
      @roycurtis5669 4 роки тому +1

      Lee Haney at one of the Olympians way 253 lb so you are wrong

    • @scottish__beard8856
      @scottish__beard8856 3 роки тому

      @@roycurtis5669 Wrong. Lee haney at his heaviest was 248lbs in 91 and at the time that was the heaviest ever Mr Olympia recorded since arnold 246lbs! Dorian in 93 was 257lbs surpassing haneys record, not to mention the fact that he brought insane conditioning compared to haney! Lee haney at his first olympia was 243lbs and never went over 248lbs, 5lbs of weight over the course of his 8 year reign!

    • @Usuario-yq6uq
      @Usuario-yq6uq 2 роки тому

      The goat wirh these horrible arms and traps? I don't think so

    • @vishbar4262
      @vishbar4262 Рік тому

      @@roycurtis5669 where in the blue hell did you see haney at 250+..dont talk crap when you have no idea

    • @vishbar4262
      @vishbar4262 Рік тому

      @@Usuario-yq6uq what? Doriams traps are bad? What cheap shit are smokin man

  • @turley463
    @turley463 4 роки тому +3

    I saw Yates guest pose leading upto 93 in Newcastle England and until you see it in real life you'll never understand.

    • @TheLusianPopa
      @TheLusianPopa 4 роки тому +2

      what the hardness/density ?yeah it doesnt show up in regular pics or old vhs tapes

    • @turley463
      @turley463 4 роки тому

      @@TheLusianPopa Yes that's it, also the thickness. I've met a few 90s bodybuilders in their prime and none of them came close to Yates.

    • @TheLusianPopa
      @TheLusianPopa 4 роки тому +2

      @@turley463 yes dorian had an unreal front to back thickness.His ribcage was enormous and he had very thick traps, lats and even chest .He does talk about how he used to win the 2 side relaxed poses based on that , in several interviews

    • @turley463
      @turley463 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheLusianPopa I agree especially the traps. That's what struck home the most. It looked like a backpack strapped to him. To this day I've never witnessed anything like it. If only today's bodybuilders were like this

    • @TheLusianPopa
      @TheLusianPopa 4 роки тому +2

      @@turley463 his traps probably so huge because they attached so low, almost in his lower back lol.The longer the muscle bellie the more potential for size,i guess
      his lats were also crazy thick
      guys like nasser, wheeler went they turned to the side didnt have that thickness, they were shallow.I did notice it during posedowns, but very few pay attention to the quarter turns, especially the side poses.There very few photos of these side relaxed also.

  • @iktomi5
    @iktomi5 7 років тому +7

    King 👑 Dorian hands down

  • @bobbydee668
    @bobbydee668 4 роки тому +5

    Dorian all the way

  • @Seanryan2001
    @Seanryan2001 6 років тому +8

    Dorian's 1993 Mr. Olympia was the best of all time.

  • @jtffg7hgfr442
    @jtffg7hgfr442 5 років тому +24

    Ronnie coleman is a great man.Absolute legend.Buuuut,Dorian with his whole story and inspiration is the the one who embodied this sport to 100% and thats why he is the greatest!

    • @hmackprotection1
      @hmackprotection1 4 роки тому +1

      jtffg7 hgfr4 you’re insane

    • @asianhavoc1872
      @asianhavoc1872 4 роки тому

      @@hmackprotection1 you too😉

    • @barakobama8194
      @barakobama8194 4 роки тому +1

      What does the story have to do with the structure of their bodies who cares?

  • @extremejay97
    @extremejay97 7 років тому +54

    Lee Priest vs Shawn Ray!!!

    • @JerkVegas86
      @JerkVegas86 7 років тому +5

      Sujay Shawn On Body, Lee On Personality

    • @michaeledwards1644
      @michaeledwards1644 7 років тому +6

      Ray is a loudmouth crybaby while Lee is just a loudmouth... winner Lee Priest

    • @PkzMoonWalker
      @PkzMoonWalker 7 років тому +4

      kevin vs shawna ray :)

    • @michaeledwards1644
      @michaeledwards1644 7 років тому +2

      Snitch Piana
      Bostin vs Genova would be epic like Nasser vs Rammy

    • @Omgtired
      @Omgtired 6 років тому +1

      Lmao, no competition, Ray all day long

  • @jeansy8684
    @jeansy8684 7 років тому +28

    Dorian looks like he's carved out of marble. I definitely would pick DY.

  • @PkzMoonWalker
    @PkzMoonWalker 7 років тому +40

    Dorian the real GOAT in bodybuilding

  • @Diamhea
    @Diamhea 7 років тому +12

    LOL someone in the background bursts out laughing when ronnie front lat spread comes up

    • @stannjob
      @stannjob 4 роки тому

      Yes, because ronnie looks disgusting in that pose, no competition for Dorian... palumbo was the one laughing

    • @samb5358
      @samb5358 3 роки тому

      @@stannjob Yeah they should've used 1998 or 1999 Ronnie in my opinion. If they wanted to use 2003 Ronnie they should have used 1996 Dorian

  • @Sal-zw9io
    @Sal-zw9io 4 роки тому +15

    Dorian Yates the real KING ❤️

    • @Usuario-yq6uq
      @Usuario-yq6uq 2 роки тому +1

      Jajajajaj sure, dude, and i guess now Roonie is "the shadow"
      The only King is the King Coleman. Gtfo

  • @lparsons154
    @lparsons154 7 років тому +61

    Dorian at the 1996 grand prix.

    • @Tomn8er
      @Tomn8er 7 років тому +8

      he was better in 93. No torn bicep so automatic better symmetry plus better conditioning and proportion. Only way he was better in 96 is he brought his back and chest up but mostly the lighting in that show is what made him look so amazing

    • @menknurlan
      @menknurlan 7 років тому

      True. The lighting made everyone look insane and gave deep shadow lines between muscle gaps. Still prefer Kevin levrone in that same show over dorian.

    • @TheLusianPopa
      @TheLusianPopa 5 років тому +1

      @@Tomn8er Better proportions probably but condition?i always felt he was a bit flat in 93, 95 and 96 GP fuller and thicker.
      For whatever reason the 93 footage doesnt impress me much , he deosnt even look THAT big , just shredded but that's just me.
      In 95 he looks way bigger.

    • @illwitness
      @illwitness 5 років тому +5

      1996 hands down Dorians best shape of all time, even with the torn bicep. Size, power, thickness, fullness, conditioning, striations, vascularity,....everything was there in spades except for the torn bicep. Still was light years ahead of everyone.

    • @tony9t
      @tony9t 4 роки тому

      Said that for years 👍🏻

  • @timjones7336
    @timjones7336 6 років тому +10

    Ronnie competed against Dorian from 1992 - 1997. Never came close.
    Dorians worst place in an IFBB competition was second. Ronnie’s was dead last. Dorians worst place at Mr. Olympia was 2nd (1991). Ronnie’s was dead last (1992).
    Dorians average placing at Mr. Olympia is 1.1. Ronnie’s is... 4.7. Hell, Lee Labrada’s average Mr. Olympia placing is 3.1. Lee even beat Ronnie in 1992 (Lee placed 4th in 93, Ronnie didn’t even qualify...).
    Dorian has the best average competitive placing as an IFBB athlete by far of any modern pro.
    Ronnie was impressive, but he’s certainly no Dorian Yates...

    • @Sleeper_Banshee
      @Sleeper_Banshee 6 років тому +2

      Good job you can do math lol Ronnie still had 8 sandows to dorians 6.
      There is some simple math

    • @alexisvnc
      @alexisvnc 5 років тому +2

      Tim Jones bro you're comparing the worst Ronnie vs the best Dorian. It would be like comparing Lee Haney's best physique to Dorian in 1984 when he was just starting out...

    • @big_d_75
      @big_d_75 5 років тому +1

      Hard to argue some of those facts Tim

    • @ashgan84
      @ashgan84 5 років тому

      @samonuske anton
      That ought to do it.

    • @mikebird5148
      @mikebird5148 5 років тому +1

      From 92-97 Ronnie also had NO CLUE what stack to take, Flex Wheeler got him hooked up with Chad Nichols in late 97-early 98 abd from that point on, Ronnie won 8 straight Olympia's, who knows how many he would have won if he had hooked up with Chad Nichols sooner...

  • @Johnthelonewolf
    @Johnthelonewolf 6 років тому +21

    Dorian 🙏🏻🙌🏻

  • @KippaxInThailand
    @KippaxInThailand 7 років тому +9

    About time you got Dorian on a show Dave

    • @PkzMoonWalker
      @PkzMoonWalker 7 років тому

      thats why he recently made a dvd and opend a huge gym in Marbella spain plz just stfu

  • @davidsully9079
    @davidsully9079 7 років тому +67

    chris sounds just like Jay

    • @s0ldier898
      @s0ldier898 7 років тому +3

      agreed i listened to a podcast of them one night and couldn't tell who was talking

    • @JohnnyStyles
      @JohnnyStyles 7 років тому

      David Sully identical !! And they both admit it haha

    • @davidsully9079
      @davidsully9079 7 років тому +6

      Maybe Jay is his secret son

    • @jonathanparramore6793
      @jonathanparramore6793 7 років тому

      David Sully lol so true!!!!!

    • @Kikwatz
      @Kikwatz 6 років тому

      It's because he is his father.

  • @hexynyctpkkk8749
    @hexynyctpkkk8749 7 років тому +78

    Dorian kills front lat spread

    • @roycurtis5669
      @roycurtis5669 4 роки тому +2

      I'm sorry to hear you are blind and you can't see

    • @cristopherpino9689
      @cristopherpino9689 4 роки тому +3

      @@roycurtis5669 bro what? How is he blind? His lats flare out mooore than ronnie

    • @roycurtis5669
      @roycurtis5669 4 роки тому

      @@cristopherpino9689 you still don't get it I'm not going to explain

    • @cristopherpino9689
      @cristopherpino9689 4 роки тому +1

      @@roycurtis5669 u never explained but w.e dude

    • @shearer567
      @shearer567 4 роки тому +6

      That pose belongs to Dorian, nobody comes close. It's like Levrone with the hands clasped most muscular, it's his.

  • @trmatt01
    @trmatt01 7 років тому +4

    2003 Ronnie could never be beat

  • @walid7885
    @walid7885 7 років тому +81

    Dorian is the man.

    • @Usuario-yq6uq
      @Usuario-yq6uq 2 роки тому

      Awful biceps and traps.
      He's your man, not "the man".

  • @raffaelecorrente1123
    @raffaelecorrente1123 7 років тому +51

    "Ronnie was a bigger giant" only when he was fat compared to dorian. Coleman's condition was comparabile to dorian's 8 weeks out.
    Dorian was the best, hands down.

    • @krokodilvomnil5327
      @krokodilvomnil5327 5 років тому +1

      Dorian was the best but 2003 Ronnie Coleman was biggest ever. But Dorian wasnt the hardest ever look at Münzer

    • @awakeningtovacuity8372
      @awakeningtovacuity8372 5 років тому +2

      I disagree. I think they were pretty even, but nonetheless Dorian was the godfather of mass.

    • @DJ_T800
      @DJ_T800 5 років тому +1

      Fat !!?? pregnant also ...... lol !!

    • @awakeningtovacuity8372
      @awakeningtovacuity8372 5 років тому

      @King Hannibal that's just, like, your opinion, man, it also happens to be my opinion also. Coleman was the greatest, Yates was the first. That's why I say Yates was the godfather of mass.

    • @awakeningtovacuity8372
      @awakeningtovacuity8372 5 років тому

      @King Hannibal I guess we'll just have to disagree.

  • @ElConquistador24
    @ElConquistador24 5 років тому +15

    I'd have to go with Dorian.

  • @josethemacho
    @josethemacho 5 років тому +8

    Ronnie=Mutant Freak. Dorian=God level.

  • @erezs4376
    @erezs4376 7 років тому +19

    dorian so much better class not only mass the lines, abs, the details,look at ronnie, to much mass , no lines can't hold posing like front lat spread, the stomach looks bloated ,midsection disaster.....kills posing ......actually thanks god dave and chris are not the panel of judges..

  • @stephendavies8751
    @stephendavies8751 7 років тому +7

    I believe if they stood on stage together at their peak, Dorian would out focus Ronnie first. Even without the posing included. His laser focus beat everyone, including Flex Levrone Ray etc. Dorian not as massive as Coleman, but better conditioning.

  • @mskidi
    @mskidi 5 років тому +14

    Dorian had a Herculian body, looked like he could rip some random Titans' head off. A mans' structure.
    Ronnie was developped outwards on every direction like a cartoon, like a ripped Michelin man.

    • @MrBoothyboy1988
      @MrBoothyboy1988 3 роки тому +1

      mskidi that’s because he was carrying so much muscle he didn’t look human anymore. It’s a bodybuilding contest not an aesthetics contest Dorian said that himself

    • @mskidi
      @mskidi 3 роки тому

      @@MrBoothyboy1988 I'm quite certain aesthetics still play a major, role in bodybuilding. Its a bodybuilding contest for men, not balloons

    • @shaltonmartis1314
      @shaltonmartis1314 3 роки тому

      @@mskidi yet he won 8x vs very eastatic ppl lol..

    • @Usuario-yq6uq
      @Usuario-yq6uq 2 роки тому

      I don't think these awful biceps could tear anything. Lol

  • @matthewfrench2871
    @matthewfrench2871 4 роки тому +7

    Dorian seems to have the wow actor !!

    • @kenarts11
      @kenarts11 4 роки тому

      matthew french and Ronnie had the Aaaahhh factor

  • @billmullinax9250
    @billmullinax9250 5 років тому +3

    Dorian Yates 6 Mr. Olympias, Ronnie coleman 8 Mr. Olympias. Also Ronnie Coleman had more wins as a bodybuilder.

    • @2210grace
      @2210grace 5 років тому

      Ronnie only won when Yates retired whether Ron had two more titles and continued to grow doesn't matter if Dorian had stayed in the game imagine what mass and conditioning he would of had ?? He retired undefeated ,,,,

    • @mikebird5148
      @mikebird5148 5 років тому

      @@2210grace Ronnie didn't just win when Yates retired, it wasn't just Yates that was beating Ronnie back in the early to mid 90's, it was everyone, in 1997 Ronnie finished 9th I believe, you know why??? Because everyone else was on a actual professional drug protocol and Ronnie had no clue what to take, he asked Flex Wheeler what the secret to winning was, Flex then asked what Ronnie was taking, told him he needed to step up to the big boys league, then hooked Ronnie up with Chad Nichols and from that point on, Ronnie won 8 straight Olympia's...........So basically, Yates and everybody else was beating Ronnie because they were on actual big boy drugs while Ronnie was on basic testosterone. Imagine if Ronnie had learned what to take sooner?

    • @TheLusianPopa
      @TheLusianPopa 4 роки тому

      @@mikebird5148 if yates came back in 98 hed beat ronnie
      265 lb vs 245 lb GAME OVER
      FLS/BLS( esp vs a smaller ronnie),ST,AT
      4/7
      Quarter turns( ronnies was third in 98 lol)to guys Yates always beat in that rd
      Posing round?Yates easy

  • @Topshelf22-g2f
    @Topshelf22-g2f 6 років тому +2

    I think Ronnies upper traps got just too large for his torso/back so he looked sort of hunched over when doing a lat spread(either front or back). I'd give it overall to Dorian if we took his 92-93 shape

  • @manduheavyvazquez5268
    @manduheavyvazquez5268 7 років тому +21

    Dorian all day, the best back and calves ever. Greatness.

    • @fender1000100
      @fender1000100 4 роки тому +2

      Cant argue with that. Its always been said alot of guys could live with, even better Dorian from the front. But as soon as Dorian turned around. And you saw that back. And those diamond Calves. It WAS LIGHTS OUT.

    • @Usuario-yq6uq
      @Usuario-yq6uq 2 роки тому +1

      And the worst arms and traps ever in a mr. Olympia

  • @jimmorgan8688
    @jimmorgan8688 6 років тому +4

    Dorian.

  • @Derek_Reynolds
    @Derek_Reynolds 7 років тому +5

    the front later spread part was so funny

  • @dr.heinzdoofenshmirtz4463
    @dr.heinzdoofenshmirtz4463 5 років тому +11

    Dorian is the human version of shield of Captain America.

  • @Tomn8er
    @Tomn8er 7 років тому +18

    23:24 haha that's an interesting point about how Ronnie ruined posing forever. Never thought about that but kinda true.
    Still, Coleman > Yates

    • @TheLusianPopa
      @TheLusianPopa 4 роки тому +1

      debatable
      funny how here in the comments most say Yates

    • @ImYourHuckleberry_29
      @ImYourHuckleberry_29 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheLusianPopa there you are

    • @stannjob
      @stannjob 4 роки тому

      @@TheLusianPopa Yup, Dorian aallll dayyyy

  • @alin0791
    @alin0791 7 років тому +34

    The Shadow...Enough said!

  • @naturalbreed3745
    @naturalbreed3745 5 років тому +27

    Casual people - Dorian
    Legends - Ronnie

    • @mr.t244
      @mr.t244 5 років тому +7

      There are no 'casual people' or 'legends' , just people. And Dorian wins anyway you uncultured swine, just the ethic, the attitude, the game changer, soooo many people he inspired now with his movies and pictures and other bodybuilders in the 90s that strived to defeat him. He is one of the reasons 90s was best bodybuilding era.

    • @artas9371
      @artas9371 4 роки тому +3

      You realize casual people go for Ronnie because he's bigger right ?

    • @adriangheorghe4872
      @adriangheorghe4872 4 роки тому

      Casual people (majority) Legends (Minority) Right?

    • @EsotericMysteriesUnveiled
      @EsotericMysteriesUnveiled 4 роки тому +1

      Other way around

  • @stannjob
    @stannjob 4 роки тому +2

    Since the beginning, Chris Aceto choosed Dorian. Hands down. Not sure why palumbo calls ronnie the goat, i believe ronnie was just a freak of nature but not the goat, put the pipe down palumbo.

  • @soulsergeant
    @soulsergeant 4 роки тому +2

    They were on stage together in Chicago in 1996 I was there and Dorian beat him. Dave won’t show that!

    • @JAMESmmmmmm
      @JAMESmmmmmm 2 роки тому

      Yeh because that wasn't prime coleman

  • @azamomemoreira2194
    @azamomemoreira2194 7 років тому +1

    Palumbo and Chris are both in love with Dorian and Chris especially hates Coleman for those years beating Cutler who was under his belt, they both can not make this comparison, both are one sided...Ronni is obviously better

  • @Iceman-xe7jo
    @Iceman-xe7jo Рік тому +1

    I disagree with Chris. Coleman was superior in 99. That was his best size and conditioning look ever. 98 looked like he still had something to add. He wasn’t quite complete.

  • @LondonG0708
    @LondonG0708 7 років тому +42

    Dorian for me.

  • @mikerude5073
    @mikerude5073 Рік тому +1

    Guys with thick blocky joints fell in love with 1993 Yates, but he never had the structure of 1998 Ronnie

    • @TheLusianPopa
      @TheLusianPopa Рік тому

      he never had the shallow ribcage yeah
      And ronnies torso was a tincy bit TOO SHORT like kai greens...hence they both had very distended guts

  • @JakeSloan_2
    @JakeSloan_2 6 років тому +5

    Dorian for me...

  • @xercesss
    @xercesss 4 роки тому +7

    Dorian.
    Even Kevin Levrone told so (and he faced both).

  • @stannjob
    @stannjob 3 роки тому +2

    They didnt compare side relaxed, which Dorian would win. Most muscular didnt count in the 90's.

  • @garrenluce1984
    @garrenluce1984 7 років тому +13

    Dorian wins and I didn't even watch it yet ...the name alone wins

  • @karsu
    @karsu 4 роки тому +4

    Dorian. He ushered that era of Mass Monster. Without Dorian no Ronnie. Period dot full stop. Dorian had better conditioning, dryness, and had better posedown. I saw Ronnie in his prime and it was SO freakish. Problem was his gut was just not up to par. Dorian in his prime had no weaknesses and even when his gut got out of control and distended because of insulin and HGH it was still better than Ronnie at his best. :/ . I was @ the Olympia in 2003. 1993 and 1995 Dorian was so heard to beat, peeled, conditioned, definition, cuts, granite... That dude was ridiculous.
    I feel like people romanticize Ronnie's "Lightweight baby!". "Nothing but a peanut!"....but we are talking about bodybuilding, not powerlifting.
    Remember 1993 and 1995 those are shots in video and camera were not in HD. With bad lighting.
    2003 video and pics for Ronnie are.
    The "no skin ness" of 1993 and 1995 Dorian was just unbelievable.
    I grew up with John Marsh's son (former Mr. America) and he picks Dorian. So that says something.

  • @ultramarinechaplain88
    @ultramarinechaplain88 Рік тому +1

    Some people get the wrong idea that the bigger you are the better. If that was the case then paul dillet should have been champion multiple times. Its about the total package, and that goes to dorian yates. The best BB package ever would have to be either yates 93 olympia or 96 german gp. No disrespect to the great ronnie coleman, he was a great as well. But aesthetically the only vwrsion of ronnie that looked brilliant was 98. He got way overblown for me in the end

  • @CEREBRAL.ASSASSIN
    @CEREBRAL.ASSASSIN 4 роки тому +1

    Feel like Ronnie was slightly discredited more than Dorian in this video

  • @conandoyle1740
    @conandoyle1740 7 років тому +4

    yates was on joe rogan yesterday or so
    very very good interview on how mindset is what made him the best
    also as reference dorian had 19 inch forearms lol

  • @lordlycan5035
    @lordlycan5035 7 років тому +35

    Dorian hands down

    • @doosian76
      @doosian76 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah but people dont understand how good dorian was the water coleman held and his midsection and overcarb body think coleman would not look good irl with the belly and the bad symmetry and lacking v-taper and bad posing . Yates was in better shape and looked better by far no doubt

    • @cristopherpino9689
      @cristopherpino9689 4 роки тому +3

      @@doosian76 do u know wat symmetry means?

    • @absarhassan8053
      @absarhassan8053 4 роки тому +2

      @@doosian76 dude pls go and see the symmetry of Coleman in 1998 mr Olympia he could go toe to toe with flex wheeler expect for his 4 pack the rest of his body was flawless, his waist was more streamline than ever before, he was aesthetic, actually, and if Dorian started the mass monster era then Ronnie took it to another level in 2003 the only flaw was his bloated stomach but his muscle density, definition and size was unprecedented and no one and I mean no one can beat the 2003 version of Ronnie Coleman in the history of bodybuilding. Moreover, dorian is one of the most flawed mr olympia ever, heck even his arms weren't equal in size

    • @cheetoyeeto1232
      @cheetoyeeto1232 4 роки тому +2

      @@absarhassan8053 bro. Arnold's wasnt either. Why do you think he never posed with the left arm being flexed. Right bicep and tricep were visibly larger than left.

    • @absarhassan8053
      @absarhassan8053 4 роки тому

      @@cheetoyeeto1232 I know but his flaws were minor and most importantly he knew how to hide them, so it was not as critical to him as it was to Dorian

  • @samin_fitcoach
    @samin_fitcoach 7 років тому +21

    back lat spread...lets say dorians back is little better(we all know that ronnie had amazing back) but you completly forgot the glutes and leg size of ronnie....how dorian won that shot ?

    • @Ulysses6806
      @Ulysses6806 7 років тому +3

      samko kolasinac but legs are more than just quads, Dorian destroys Ronnie in lower leg development.

    • @samin_fitcoach
      @samin_fitcoach 7 років тому

      ok so back lat spread dorian has calves and back(thats debatable) ronie has better arms,glutes,hams and quads(you can see them from behind) so thats 4-2 to ronnie and they are both cut to the max so...

    • @fraka899
      @fraka899 7 років тому +1

      +samko kolasinac yes but the focus is on the back bro.

    • @mikebird5148
      @mikebird5148 7 років тому

      LMAO, Dorian had huge calves, in terms of TOTAL leg development, Ronnie murdered Yates, hamstrings, quads and glutes was ALLLL Ronnie

    • @craigcotter7476
      @craigcotter7476 7 років тому

      Coleman looks like a hard dump to me.

  • @eddiebaby22
    @eddiebaby22 3 роки тому +1

    Phil H #1 Dorian #2 Ronnie #3. Phil is the best ever Olympia body, Dorian was nowhere near the genetics but carved from granite. Ronnie is the biggest freak to have ever got into Olympias winning shape.

  • @williesouthall425
    @williesouthall425 7 років тому +8

    my son's name is Antorian can you figure out where his dad got that from ?

    • @ChowMeinChowdown
      @ChowMeinChowdown 7 років тому +2

      Willie Southall Andorra? Android?

    • @williesouthall425
      @williesouthall425 7 років тому

      Antorian

    • @cuchulainn1967
      @cuchulainn1967 7 років тому +1

      JUST BY SEEING THAT NAME, " ANTORIAN", I ASSUME THAT YOU ARE BLACK?!?!? ...WHAT GIVES IT AWAY???....WELL, IT IS THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, "LEMICHAEL"...OR.., "LESHAWN"..OR..," DEMARCUS"..OR MAYBE FOR A GIRL, " LATONYA"..OR, "LANATASHA"?!?!?!...YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE MADE UP EBONIC- NAMES, THAT ACTUALLY HAVE NO REAL MEANING, LIKE NAMES ( IN NORMAL CASES) DO HAVE..!..BUT SOME PARENTS GIVE THEM TO THEIR CHILD ANYWAY, BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE WANNA MAKE SURE, THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS, THEIR KID IS BLACK... AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE, THAT THEIR KID DOES NOT HAVE A NAME LIKE WHITE PEOPLE, EVEN IF IT IS BASICALLY THE SAME NAME, JUST WITH AN ADDED SYLLABLE TO IT.. WHICH, HEAVENS FORBID, IN SOME CASES COULD BE CONSIDERED A SIGN OF INFERIOR INTELLECT....THAT IS JUST SAD!!!!!

    • @BUCKikwi
      @BUCKikwi 5 років тому +4

      @@cuchulainn1967 are you disabled?

  • @nickbaird317
    @nickbaird317 7 років тому +2

    I watch you guys daily but man some of the stuff in this video was suspect lol... Dorian matching Ronnie in the most muscular???... Dorian's back is awesome but regardless of the "pictures don't do him justice" argument the eye ball test says there was something funky about his legs... I agree that Dorian paved the way for the next generation but imo both Jay and Ronnie would place ahead in an all time best contest... PS and those who argue that oh Dorian was more aesthetic you may be right but if that's your basis Flex and Kevin imo should have taken a few titles from Dorian.

    • @stannjob
      @stannjob 4 роки тому

      put the pipe down

  • @Sldumas1983
    @Sldumas1983 4 роки тому +1

    Dave with all do respect Baby, If your going to Compare 93 and 98 get the best pics cause some of these don’t do justice. But both of these guys are my favorite. Two of the best backs in the game you can give it to both of them. Good vid

  • @sng3939
    @sng3939 4 роки тому +2

    Ronnie really lost his physique in his later years with the midsection. But his initial years, he looked insane

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 3 роки тому +3

    This guy was so biased towards Dorian. Don't get me wrong yates is amazing. Coleman takes the cake hands down!

    • @eliasandradeschindler9402
      @eliasandradeschindler9402 3 роки тому

      Easily, as great as Dorian was, he doesnt have much of a case against Ronnie if you ask me.

    • @TheLusianPopa
      @TheLusianPopa 2 роки тому +1

      this guy was there and he knows bb
      youre an nternet fanboy who proly wasnt even born in the early 90s
      its been siad a million times dorian in REAL LIFE was insane looking.
      Coleman at his so called career best condition in 98 BARELY beats an off syntholed wheeler by 3 pts-one of closest shows in history.In 93 dorian destroys a much sharper flex in every pose basically, even abs thigh.
      Odds are 93 dorian would beat 98 coleman
      10lb more muscle, even better condition and no weaknesses
      ronnie 98 has ugly albeit small midesction, no calves and gyno

  • @calm_candle_wick
    @calm_candle_wick Рік тому

    Please bring this series back!!!

  • @matthewtuakolo8049
    @matthewtuakolo8049 2 роки тому +3

    Yates would win without a doubt 100%

  • @lee4171
    @lee4171 3 роки тому +2

    Dorian just takes it. He changed the game. The competition he had, his condition. Coleman a great deserved 2nd.

  • @scobius1
    @scobius1 7 років тому +4

    Dorian in 93, Ronnie in 98, best physiques on an Olympia stage ever.

  • @captain-willpower
    @captain-willpower 4 роки тому +3

    Holy crap Chris sounds so much like Jay lol
    Jay picked up how he talked lol

  • @petterbalfour356
    @petterbalfour356 4 роки тому +1

    Arnold said a mil times, calves r like the most important thing. The pictures just can't show it, lense and light distortion and curvature, only person Arnold ever feared was Dorian.

  • @vaskopz
    @vaskopz 7 років тому +8

    Dorian had much tougher competition - best versions of Flex, Levrone, Shawn Ray, Nasser. Who was against Ronnie - Jay Cutler with his blocky waist and dumb hairstyle who later became the least pleasing to the eye Mr. Olympia. As Aceto said Ronnie fucked up the sport with his bullshit routines plus he made the big ass, bubble gut and small calves a standart.

    • @JerkVegas86
      @JerkVegas86 7 років тому

      vaskopz Ronnie was there, and was losing lol

    • @bogdanadzic9305
      @bogdanadzic9305 7 років тому

      ronnie was not in his pirme even jay would win vs dorian

  • @DavithHW
    @DavithHW 4 роки тому +2

    Why do they always give the sandow to the guy with the biggest gut?

  • @Mr.ConsistentCharles
    @Mr.ConsistentCharles 5 років тому +2

    Ronnie coleman hands down, i love dorian but ronnie coleman defeat him in the double biceps back spread and the lat spread, all poses which makes dorian great

    • @Mr.ConsistentCharles
      @Mr.ConsistentCharles 4 роки тому

      @mijitman926 dorian is great but lat size and grainess , ronnie all the way

    • @TheLusianPopa
      @TheLusianPopa 4 роки тому

      the rear lat spread is dorians money shot, he actually opens up his back.Ronnie just hunches over alot, which makes his erectors and traps pop , and tbh his lat spread is too dominated by his overszeid gutes and hams, and the focus is really on the width of the lats in this pose, and dorians lats are wider, thciker and drier
      plus ronnie is missing calves, while you cant say dorian is missing glutes lol

  • @pierre9173
    @pierre9173 7 років тому +1

    Very niice show. Good breakdown of the facts. Its very diffcult to compare these guys, which are both freaks. They were kings at their time for a reason, this factor makes it much more diffcult. From back the back they both so strong, you cant really decide which of em.
    But from 98' to 02 there were some guys in die Top 5 which were very dangerous for Ronnie. It was the same like Dorian. They dominated the show not in a way, that it was an oneman show. on their dominating performances there were some guys with also outstanding performances. But Dorian and Ronnie were Freaks in special way of sense, it wasnt only on stage, they were freaks in gym and life, thats what makes their statue bigger and beyond.

  • @sr71blackbirddr
    @sr71blackbirddr 4 роки тому +1

    The biggest difficulty in judging the two is DY's pics and lighting look like they where took by a preloaded snap cam for $5. DY's conditioning is much easier to see in the better black and white pics.

  • @affordableaquariumservices1663
    @affordableaquariumservices1663 4 роки тому +13

    Close call but I'll take Dorian all day and he already beat Coleman on stage

    • @Gnybr
      @Gnybr 3 роки тому

      Coleman was not in his prime and Dorian was closely beaten by Nasser while Ronnie dominated Nasser.

    • @stannjob
      @stannjob 3 роки тому

      @@Gnybr in 97? Nah, was close but Dorian even at his 85% beat Nasser. Even in his prime, ronnie doesnt beat Dorian.

    • @Gnybr
      @Gnybr 3 роки тому

      @@stannjob That just shows how poorly bodybuilding is judged, when ugly Dorian Yates in 97 without arms defeated the statue Nasser. Dorian should have been disqualifed Imo.
      Dorian and Ronnie in their prime is a close call. By the 90s criterias Dorian would most likely win since most muscular was not a mandatory shot and conditioing was very important. But if they competed in the mid 2000s Ronnie would win, size was more important than conditioning and most muscular was a mandatory shot.

    • @stannjob
      @stannjob 3 роки тому

      @@Gnybr Nah, how many poses did a tore biceps affect? Dorian wasnt at his best in 97, we aaaall agree, but because of the tore biceps he wasnt able to train properly during the last 3 weeks before the olympia, and still had a better back than the whole competition and won more poses, also, if you can notice, his posing wasnt affected even if he was in pain during the whole contests, Dorian said, so Dorian is a true warrior, i love Nasser but his package was in the front and nothing on the back, besides Dorians structure is better, longer legs and thickness, made him win also the relaxed poses, sides and back, not the front relaxed. How can you say in 2000 mass was mote important? Thats the "standard" that was on 2000 perhaps, remember how Gustavo Badell beat ronnie in 2005 on posing round? If im not mistaken, Ronnie was so ungry, and Gustavo wasnt even as big as ronnie but had more quality for sure. If Dorian would show up in ANY contest after he retired, he would win, hands down. Dont confuse the fact that Dorian doesnt look good in pictures, many pros have stated that, but in real life he was unbelieveable, same height as ronnie and Dorian prime is even wider and bigger than ronnie in 98, and if you want to compare ronnie 2003, maybe he got bigger but his condition was to laugh if you comparr with Dorians prime, after all Dorian holds the best back and calves in history, also he holds the best FLS and even best side triceps, remember also he would beat ronnie in the relaxed poses maybe 3 out of the 4 and easily in the posing round.

    • @Gnybr
      @Gnybr 3 роки тому

      @@stannjob You want a complet breakdown huh?
      Posing Round:
      Handsdown Dorian. Ronnie just did random shit and wasn't a good poser. Kevin Levrone always beat Ronnie in the posing round and Dorian always defeated Kevin in it.
      Symmetry Round:
      Probalby Dorian, Nasser and Flex beat Ronnie in the Symmetry at the 1998 Olympia and Dorian beat them in it. Not so sure about 2003 Ronne though.
      Muscularity Round:
      -1990 standards: 4-3 Dorian. Similar to how this video broke it down.
      -2000s standards: 5-3 Ronnie. Judges cared more about freakiness and size than conditioning, I believe Ronnie would win the rear lat spread for that matter. Even Ab/Thigs is debatable, Ronnie beat Dexter in it at the 2004 in the challenger round remember. But to avoid controversy let's just give Dorian that one.
      Posedown:
      Hard to tell. Could go either way. Flex said however that Dorian was more intimidating than Ronnie in that aspect. Personally, I do not see anyone beating 2003 Ronnie Coleman in the posedown.
      I do believe though that Dorian would come in slightly less conditioned and bigger. If he knew he had to compete against that massive version of Ronnie Coleman.
      Also, I don't agree with you that Dorian has the best side tricep ever. That has to go to Phil Heath in his prime!

  • @thomasjohnson3698
    @thomasjohnson3698 7 років тому +1

    Well if we are going pose for pose i think Ronnie def takes it but wow the line up Dorian had to face was real tough. From 2001-2005 the only real challenge for Ronnie was jay. However, Dorian had to face up against many top guys like Levrone, wheeler, ray and Nasser. every single year. But when it comes to the better body id give it to Coleman.

  • @crazee635
    @crazee635 7 років тому +32

    Dorian is better...

  • @themusic6808
    @themusic6808 6 років тому

    Ronnie’s glutes and back were absolutely monstrous but he wasn’t well balanced. Midsection wasn’t all that tight (even from the beginning) and his quad size overpowered his calfs. Dorian Yates was fucking put together from head to toe. Full chest, wide lats, well developed glutes and hams, and his calf development (one of the best) matched his quads. Not the most detailed bodybuilder but his stature and conditioning put together the almost perfect shape.

  • @harrisonjananto91
    @harrisonjananto91 7 років тому +3

    Dorian

  • @Aeifur
    @Aeifur 7 років тому +8

    Dat Aceto Misfits hairdo.....

  • @chris99103
    @chris99103 7 років тому

    In direct comparison Coleman was way bigger than Yates with only 2 cm difference in height (1,80 vs 1,78). Coleman Arm 61cm, Leg 87cm, Chest 156cm Yates Arm 51cm, Leg 79cm, Chest 142cm so next to each other Coleman would dwarf Yates...thats a fact.

  • @abderraoufbouchellig9758
    @abderraoufbouchellig9758 5 років тому +6

    Dorian Yates the best ever

  • @winstrolchurchill821
    @winstrolchurchill821 3 роки тому

    This just came up 3 years later! No idea why but shows your much weight Dave has lost in 3 years , especially in the face! Madness!

  • @Drewg351
    @Drewg351 5 років тому +3

    If you watch the two guys in their work out videos, OMG!!! Ronny looks absolutely INSANE. Ronnie's small joints with huge muscle bellies was just unbelievable. I love Dorian, but just look at those videos of Ronnie working out at Metroflex. He looks like those crazy myostatin deficient "bulls". No one has ever looked like that, and I doubt anyone ever will. No disrespect to Dorian.

    • @dtw4326
      @dtw4326 4 роки тому

      3 words "blood and guts"

  • @alfonsomartinez328
    @alfonsomartinez328 4 роки тому +4

    Dorian Yates is the BEST EVER!

  • @ivanbulgarin7232
    @ivanbulgarin7232 6 років тому +5

    Coleman can only in his dreams beat Dorian,

  • @anthonyvargasjr1602
    @anthonyvargasjr1602 4 роки тому

    Great video and thank you. I normally don't watch these videos till the end but this one I did come a very entertaining and Chris stop hating on our boy big Ronnie lol, thank you again guys!

  • @jonjoe138
    @jonjoe138 6 років тому

    Dave said, the owner of Ronnie's gym said Ronnie has to compete in order to get a free membership. That means that Ronnie quickly jumped on the gear? He competed the following year. He made some quick gains then. Good for him.

  • @ibreakkidslegs
    @ibreakkidslegs 7 років тому +1

    "when you boil it all down, it's all about evaluasiang" lmao

  • @christiansinner5187
    @christiansinner5187 5 років тому +9

    Coleman is MR. GynOlympia !!

  • @LamineSaibi06
    @LamineSaibi06 7 років тому +2

    I agree with Chris 1998 was Ronnie's best year

  • @sabihbinmasood
    @sabihbinmasood 3 роки тому +3

    I dont think this video is doing justice to Ronnie. in 1998 Ronnie was more conditioned, proportioned and missive than Yates in 1993.
    Ronnie Coleman 1998 is the greatest bodybuilder to ever step on a stage.

    • @ohmy9261
      @ohmy9261 3 роки тому +1

      @Dj_M1 Did Dorian have striated glutes? Did Dorian have pec striations and delt striations like Coleman? Did Dorian have cut hamstrings? Never.

    • @ohmy9261
      @ohmy9261 3 роки тому +1

      @Dj_M1 Okay show me a picture where Dorians glutes, pecs, shoulders, arms and hamstrings are more diced than Ronnie, I'll wait

    • @ohmy9261
      @ohmy9261 3 роки тому +1

      @Dj_M1 That was only 2001, there's no other year wear Big Ron wasn't dry, like I said. Find me a picture, don't be shy

    • @ohmy9261
      @ohmy9261 3 роки тому +1

      @Dj_M1 yea go head call me wrong, but back up what you say you ain't got proof of it

    • @ohmy9261
      @ohmy9261 3 роки тому +1

      @Dj_M1 I have seen the pictures brother, they in no way agree with ur analysis. Find me a picture where u think Dorians chest, shoulders, hams n glutes are more conditioned than Ronnies

  • @nishantthakur3357
    @nishantthakur3357 4 роки тому +2

    Why choose Ronnie 03? Take 1999 & Ronnie smokes everyone senseless