When Alfred Hitchcock was filming The Birds he asked Messiaen to compose the film score. OM agreed but on delivery AH didn't like it. "Too much piano. Nothing like real birds." AH went on to hire Bernard Herrmann. Twenty two years later, OM and BH met in a post office in Montmartre. They eyeballed each other but never spoke. Funny how things turn out. Source: Me and Hitch. Tippi Hedren. Gallimard Press. 1974 pp 253.
You and my Ravens and Woodpeckers have inspired more music! Which was the score Penderecki was turned down for? I thought it was Dune, but am not sure now. Glad he did not put is signature on that. He remains at the top pof my list. His Passion and Entombment remains a fearless confrontation with the dark side of the souls journey. He just died on Mar 29, 2020. A Bird Requiem. Thank you great Composer of the 21st century!
Hello, Thank you very much for this video ! Les oiseaux ne quittent jamais leurs planètes mères ! Ils respectent l'Univers Best wishes ! Jean-Charles Bourquin, in France
@MrLizardisle Yvonne Loriod playing the ondes? Surely it would have been her sister Jeanne, who was the famed exponent of the instrument. As I recall (possibly from Peter Hall and Nigel Simeone's biography of Messiaen), Yvonne did play the ondes - she taught a Japanese pianist well enough to play the Turangalila ondes part for the Japanese premiere - but not publicly. For that matter she was also a prolific composer, understandably now overshadowed in this regard by her husband!
@petezilla i think if you check out the music he wrote for the "Quartet For the End Of time" you'll see how he incorporated some of this stuff....really good music
prolongement et illustration des chemins ornithologiques de Messiaen, sur le web : "site du partenariat radio classique ministère de la culture messiaen" - une classe d'élèves de première explore très sensiblement cet univers
Were the excerpts that Yvonne played in this video part of any composition or work published by Messiaen? If so, which work (and if applicable, what section of the work)? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I can't seem to find these exact excerpts anywhere
With a few exceptions, I'm mostly not that fond of what I've heard by Messiaen (nor am I convinced by his attempts to translate birdsong into music or his attempts at portraying religious grace and faith), but man, does he look like he would have been a fun guy to know or have as a teacher! An eccentric in the best sense of the word.
He mentions in one of his books 'Techniques of my musical language' that one 'with a very fine ear' could hear an F sharp over a resonating low C. However, I assume this applies with all augmented 4th intervals?
Boulez wasn't totally correct about birds not being able to produce bass notes because of their diminutive size. All animals including mammals and birds can produce low frequencies using vocal fry and other non-linear processes that don't require resonance.
When I hear him talk, my mood is lifted, the world grows wider, more mysterious and more beautiful.
Lúthien Merilin 😂😂😂
When Alfred Hitchcock was filming The Birds he asked Messiaen to compose the film score. OM agreed but on delivery AH didn't like it. "Too much piano. Nothing like real birds." AH went on to hire Bernard Herrmann. Twenty two years later, OM and BH met in a post office in Montmartre. They eyeballed each other but never spoke. Funny how things turn out.
Source: Me and Hitch. Tippi Hedren. Gallimard Press. 1974 pp 253.
JohnRSamples Thanks for the sharing this story! And thanks for including the source, that's not a common thing nowadays on the internet!
@@torterrakart7249 Especially in youtube comments !
You and my Ravens and Woodpeckers have inspired more music! Which was the score Penderecki was turned down for? I thought it was Dune, but am not sure now. Glad he did not put is signature on that. He remains at the top pof my list. His Passion and Entombment remains a fearless confrontation with the dark side of the souls journey. He just died on Mar 29, 2020. A Bird Requiem. Thank you great Composer of the 21st century!
I love this man.
We'll miss you, Yvonne. Rest in peace, and thank you.
This is now my favorite UA-cam video. Ever.
It's an extract of archive footage from Olivier Mille's film "Olivier Messiaen: La Liturgie de Cristal".
Thank you so much for the upload, was that his wife Yvonne Loriod playing the piano? and Is the film available with English subs?
Hello,
Thank you very much for this video !
Les oiseaux ne quittent jamais leurs planètes mères !
Ils respectent l'Univers
Best wishes !
Jean-Charles Bourquin, in France
Such an interesting theorist and brilliant musician! Messiaen was the man
he has soo much spirit and expression!
Fantastic. That's the first time I've heard/seen him speak. Thanks for posting.
Maravilloso el trabajo de Messiaen, sus modos de transposición limitada y el canto de aves son grandes obras...genial!!
It's Messiaen!
Magnifique!!!!
Merci!
LABORIX
LABORIX!
Thank you for uploading this beautiful video !
The ravings of a complete nut case!! Wonderful upload!
what a gift! thanks
This is awesome, thanks for sharing it with us!
Excellent!!!!
Das ist geil!
Brilliant!!!
@MrLizardisle Yvonne Loriod playing the ondes? Surely it would have been her sister Jeanne, who was the famed exponent of the instrument. As I recall (possibly from Peter Hall and Nigel Simeone's biography of Messiaen), Yvonne did play the ondes - she taught a Japanese pianist well enough to play the Turangalila ondes part for the Japanese premiere - but not publicly. For that matter she was also a prolific composer, understandably now overshadowed in this regard by her husband!
Wonderful!! Thank you
@BeauJames59 Messiaen made the Paris Conservatoire the coolest school in existence. :-)
the bird tripped at the end or what?
this guy sure is a ROCKER! keep up the groove. ever heard of the chatman stick? cool!
@petezilla i think if you check out the music he wrote for the "Quartet For the End Of time" you'll see how he incorporated some of this stuff....really good music
@bgoodism then there's la merle noir, which is awesome. and played by flute ; )
correction sur le web : "site du partenariat radio classique messiaen" - suffit !
Yeah!
brilliant!
wonderfull i never heard him talk. wud like 2 meet his wife. shes in paris and im in cardiff....not that far!!!
fuck... oh fuck he's just so cool. such a candidly effervescent approach to the integration of nature's wonders into pitched-instruments.
haha - great story!!!
Such a brilliant composer, yet so funny....
Cooler than school!
Molto interessante!!!
straypixel, many thanks!!! *****
@kepler101 you've got that right!
prolongement et illustration des chemins ornithologiques de Messiaen, sur le web : "site du partenariat radio classique ministère de la culture messiaen" - une classe d'élèves de première explore très sensiblement cet univers
@petezilla
Good point.
idegesítő, tehát jó
There is an error in the translation, the french name of "Luscinia megarhynchos" is Nightingale
A special Thank to straypixel
Were the excerpts that Yvonne played in this video part of any composition or work published by Messiaen? If so, which work (and if applicable, what section of the work)? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I can't seem to find these exact excerpts anywhere
With a few exceptions, I'm mostly not that fond of what I've heard by Messiaen (nor am I convinced by his attempts to translate birdsong into music or his attempts at portraying religious grace and faith), but man, does he look like he would have been a fun guy to know or have as a teacher! An eccentric in the best sense of the word.
ik heb vandaag twee merels horen zingen
Could he hear overtones?
He mentions in one of his books 'Techniques of my musical language' that one 'with a very fine ear' could hear an F sharp over a resonating low C. However, I assume this applies with all augmented 4th intervals?
is this for theory 4?
Can you tell me what is the name of this music ?
www.amazon.com/Messiaen-Petites-esquisses-doiseaux-Catalogue/dp/B00000149Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483918727&sr=8-1&keywords=messiaen+oiseaux
whats this from???
Boulez wasn't totally correct about birds not being able to produce bass notes because of their diminutive size. All animals including mammals and birds can produce low frequencies using vocal fry and other non-linear processes that don't require resonance.
this man should give us the clue .... (underthesilverlake)
The nightingale is fine.But i dont think he manages to emulate the sound correctly for the rest. Maybe it cant be emulated
dailyhitofmusic.blogspot.com/2020/04/birds-nightingale.html
wow he is kind of a lunatic...shouldn't this all have been written for winds? oh well, I still like him.
But the birds sound a lot less dissonant.
Thank God.