Like you mentioned, the ergos make it really attractive for those of us who can't really enjoy a traditional sport bike but want that style. It gives folks who want a sport bike but need something closer to naked bike ergos a great option.
Yes the stock ergos are more relaxed than traditional supersports. When building a race bike out of an OE machine all of the controls get replaced anyway so I think Suzuki made the right choice to just make the stock bike a bit more upright. Serves a larger demopgraphic and cuts cost of the stock machine. -BR
You perfectly stated how I feel about it. I'm young and all, but for the type of riding I do right now, I want the fun and looks of a sport bike with the comfort and ergonomics of a naked bike.
I know in the vid you guys said you've tried a lot of different exhausts to test for interchangeability. Was wondering if the razor tip full exhaust from Toce was one of them and if it did fit on the 8r?
Just my opinion but Yamaha's MT-07 and CP2 engine are getting a bit long in the tooth, yet it doesn't seem like they're getting significantly updated anytime soon. Oh well, guess we're about to see a bunch of 8Rs trample over R7s, Suzuki bros are gonna love it.
Honestly, I'm just as shocked that Yamaha hasn't redesigned or improved the MT-07 or the CP2. Why not make something good even better? Either way, Suzuki is primed to take the lead if it proves to be a strong competitor on the track and if sales for the street continue to support it. - Mark
Yamaha has really had no competition until Honda/Suzukis new P-twins. Now they might finally take it seriously and improve them somehow. It's still a proven reliable platform though which is great for it.
"Supersport". What does the GSX8R have to do with Supersport and why should it, it's not even trying or pretending to be one. It's a Sports bike, not Supersports, a description of road legal race bikes. It has a fairing so it has to rev to 16k rpm or it's not a true Supersports, well, thankfully it does not and it's not. And that's why it's going to sell like crazy, because most riders would love themselves a Sports bike they can ride fast and enjoy and not break either their neck or their back, instead of a crazed maniac that feels completely out of it's element unless it's going flat out on perfect roads at insane/suicidal speeds.
Bike responds really well to a tune and full exhaust, somebody noted +12 HP. Nice bump over the R7 gets you into RS660 territory + won't break like the RS660 lol
We've seen some pretty impressive numbers so far for this platform and are just getting started! We've seen 90+ with minimal modifications. A thinner head gasket, some race gas, and some internal components can bump this to the 100+ mark. - Mark
its funny that no one mentions torque on the MT07/R7 is still noticeably higher than all the bikes in this category, not just peak but across the entire rev range. Better than RS660, SV650, CBR650, Ninja 650... With the lower weight and suspension/chassis geometry you feel that higher torque more as well
Personally I think the 8S has more distinctive styling. It looks like it has some Suzuki DNA from the old Katanas, which I loved. The 8R looks nice but looks like every other mid range sports bike package.
I love my ninja 650 because of the looks and seating position. I would love just a tad more power tho. I think the 8r is gonna be my next bike. Great video, thanks!
Our UK Dealer is CregTech although he does not yet stock these components. You can view our full dealer list here: tstindustries.com/dealers.html - TST
It makes a lot of sense to opt for the 8R over the 8S. 8R is essentially a naked with the benefits of a fully faired, specially the the front suspension setup and handling.
I also prefer the faired version. We just have to figure out how to get clipons onto the fork now. As it is the bodywork will not let all the controls fit there. We have race bodywork coming. We will see after that. -BR
I had a gsxr 600, gsxr 750, then a gsxs 1000 naked, (didn't care for it) then got the gsxs 1000GT (which I have now and love it) id of been a customer of the 8r personally. I think it is a nice bike for what it is.
The forks are both different brand, and different outer diameter at bottom clamp, as well as different internals. Even If the numbers are provided, what makes this actually helpful?
So few of the 4cyl biased people actually possess the skill sets that would in actuality mean anything on the day to day use case, or even on track. But that doesn’t seem to stem the flow of naysaying on Suzuki’s GSX8’s.
I love controversy over bikes. It keeps the subject in the forefront of people's attention. Let them keep going. We can squash all that at the track. -BR
@@TSTindustriesI hate it when people try to push their opinion on others. "4 cylinders or go home, 83hp is never enough power!" I own a 4 cyl right now but I drove an 8R today. I actually love the 8R! Live and let live.
PLEASE. Make a harness for the front turn signals of a 2021 Honda cb1000r. I can’t find anyone who has them! It’s a 2 pin and I’d like to install my RIZOMA Legerra. The harness they recommend does not work
Per the Suzuki website, the 8R has SHOWA front forks and the 8S seems to have KYB. We do plan on taking both to the track and riding them back to back to tell if the change in suspension makes a noticeable difference - Mark
Taking in consideration that GSXR1000 have about ~6 years do you think they will release a GSX-10R 👀? I want a gixxer but I’m so afraid that two months later the came up with something new.
I'm really interested on buying that blue silver option of the 8R but I'm 6'3 and idk if it would be confortable any tall riders have try it out or someone that give some feed back... i need to drive 4 hours to try the closest one so yeah
Here is a fun idea for you... Fly down to Daytona Beach for bike week. Suzuki will have both the S and the R models available for test ride, along with the rest of their product lineup. You can accomplish the goal of test riding the bike, then take in Daytona 200 and the other MotoAmerica classes that will be racing. Check out Superscross, connect with a bunch of like minded people, and perhaps attend some motorcycle parties on Main St. Whatcha think? -BR
Are the Handlebars on the GSX 8s interchangeable with the GSX 8r. The bars on my GSX 8s is the one thing I don't care for because they just feel awkward.
I ride an 8S and love it. The 8R looks amazing and I am keen to look at a swap. Keen to understand how to squeeze another 10 bhp out of it. Also adjustable cartridges would be great!
With our TST V1 intake system, a full exhaust, and our tune we are seeing about a 10hp increase at the peak, with all other areas north of 5500rpm vastly improved also. Cartridges are coming but i have a suspicion that the R model will be focused on first. We were asked to send the S forks to our partners but they then halted that to see what the R forks are going to be like -BR
It was just a little easter egg we wanted to sneak in at that time. We're getting VERY close to launching that product so be sure to sign-up for our email updates or follow us on social media.
"Enough" is a subjective term so I can't really answer in short. I can give you my perspective though. I am 45 years old and have handled enough noise for three lifetimes. I tend to like bikes less lound nowadays. When I do track days or races I now use earplugs. For me the Akra has a nice tone but I would like it a bit less loud. If you ask one of those guys that want all eyes on them at all times you will probably hear that it's a bit quiet. Toce sent us a system of theirs for testing. If you want loud that is the one to go with. -BR
@@TSTindustries okay so do you think arrow without db killer it’s loud right? Because I’m confused in choosing between Akra and arrow but toce I think it’s too much
@@JorgeCuestaGuisasolayea i think Arrow without dB killer os too loud for me. The Akra is probably the best sound wise for me, but that is not how I really choose exhausts. We run them all on the dyno and then i pick the one that accomplishes my goals best.
I'm curious on the other way around, an R with the handlebars from the S, together with a double bubble windscreen would make it a very fun bike for me.
Loving my 8r do you know if they are capable of being GP swapped from what i can find it looks like you just rotate the control rod end 180 degrees and it should be good but this is my first sport bike and first brand new bike so im not keen on making random edits to the bike without reputable information and a guide
You cannot accomplish that easily. It will require aftermarket rearsets with the brake lever on them having the rod attachment behind the pivot point, or a turnbuckle system. -BR
@@chazlyle41 Bronze? That color looks more like gold to me. Still, if it's that stock color what you mean, I agree with you it would look great on a white R. 😎
This is an interesting opinion for sure. Same tech as most modern liter bikes, under $10k, sure they’re a little heavy but also capable of 90+ hp for a sub-1000cc twin. Curious on what bikes you find not lame. -Mark
@@TSTindustriesThis. It doesn't have corner ABS or tilt sensors and cruise control, but that's about all you're missing out on. 83hp can be a lot of fun. It's a street sport, not a super sport.
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Like you mentioned, the ergos make it really attractive for those of us who can't really enjoy a traditional sport bike but want that style. It gives folks who want a sport bike but need something closer to naked bike ergos a great option.
Yes the stock ergos are more relaxed than traditional supersports. When building a race bike out of an OE machine all of the controls get replaced anyway so I think Suzuki made the right choice to just make the stock bike a bit more upright. Serves a larger demopgraphic and cuts cost of the stock machine.
-BR
You perfectly stated how I feel about it. I'm young and all, but for the type of riding I do right now, I want the fun and looks of a sport bike with the comfort and ergonomics of a naked bike.
Will the higher handlebars from the S fit the R without touching the fairing?
As an 8S owner the 8R release hurt my soul.
Literally bro
Ready to see them in TwinsCup
Same! -TST
I know in the vid you guys said you've tried a lot of different exhausts to test for interchangeability. Was wondering if the razor tip full exhaust from Toce was one of them and if it did fit on the 8r?
Same. I'll love the subtle look of the toce. Full flow but in a smaller and sleeker.
I had a K5 SV1000S. My favorite bike, ever. 80k miles on it.
Mileage that the majority of riders never get to see! - Mark
Just my opinion but Yamaha's MT-07 and CP2 engine are getting a bit long in the tooth, yet it doesn't seem like they're getting significantly updated anytime soon. Oh well, guess we're about to see a bunch of 8Rs trample over R7s, Suzuki bros are gonna love it.
Honestly, I'm just as shocked that Yamaha hasn't redesigned or improved the MT-07 or the CP2. Why not make something good even better? Either way, Suzuki is primed to take the lead if it proves to be a strong competitor on the track and if sales for the street continue to support it. - Mark
R7 was never that great to begin with. It looks cool but underperforms.
Yamaha has really had no competition until Honda/Suzukis new P-twins. Now they might finally take it seriously and improve them somehow. It's still a proven reliable platform though which is great for it.
"Supersport".
What does the GSX8R have to do with Supersport and why should it, it's not even trying or pretending to be one.
It's a Sports bike, not Supersports, a description of road legal race bikes.
It has a fairing so it has to rev to 16k rpm or it's not a true Supersports, well, thankfully it does not and it's not.
And that's why it's going to sell like crazy, because most riders would love themselves a Sports bike they can ride fast and enjoy and not break either their neck or their back, instead of a crazed maniac that feels completely out of it's element unless it's going flat out on perfect roads at insane/suicidal speeds.
Bike responds really well to a tune and full exhaust, somebody noted +12 HP. Nice bump over the R7 gets you into RS660 territory + won't break like the RS660 lol
We've seen some pretty impressive numbers so far for this platform and are just getting started! We've seen 90+ with minimal modifications. A thinner head gasket, some race gas, and some internal components can bump this to the 100+ mark. - Mark
Just more reliable than the 660 😉
Mivv tiene el escape SR1 que aporta +11Nm 🤯, +4,40HP y 3,30kg menos. Solo con este cambio.
its funny that no one mentions torque on the MT07/R7 is still noticeably higher than all the bikes in this category, not just peak but across the entire rev range. Better than RS660, SV650, CBR650, Ninja 650... With the lower weight and suspension/chassis geometry you feel that higher torque more as well
@@180FiftyFive false, look at GSX8 engine ECU flashes. Superior power and torque thru range to 660 til 9k.
Like the new 8r but after 4000 miles on my 8s and still love it looks brill, both will sell well
Cheers to many more miles and countless smiles! - Mark
I just did a Suzuki demo ride, and being a Kawasaki Conosur I never would give Suzuki a second look well the 2024 8S just changed my mind.
Personally I think the 8S has more distinctive styling. It looks like it has some Suzuki DNA from the old Katanas, which I loved. The 8R looks nice but looks like every other mid range sports bike package.
Love the 8S. Would be cool if they did an inline 3 GSX-9S/10S. That would work well as a supersport as well
That would be an awesome offering for them to introduce and it could fit in with the MT-09 and Z900 market. - Mark
A 9S would be sick 👌
I love my ninja 650 because of the looks and seating position. I would love just a tad more power tho. I think the 8r is gonna be my next bike. Great video, thanks!
Do you have a UK distributor? I’d like to get a rear set adjustment bracket.
Our UK Dealer is CregTech although he does not yet stock these components. You can view our full dealer list here: tstindustries.com/dealers.html - TST
Would love to give the 8R a spin.
It makes a lot of sense to opt for the 8R over the 8S. 8R is essentially a naked with the benefits of a fully faired, specially the the front suspension setup and handling.
i like the 8S more, but i prefer the smaller look and the riding position more on nakeds than sports.
That's the way I look at things too. Would it be fair to call the 8R a sports tourer?
@@martinrea8548 bang on! Akin to the GSX-S1000F series
thanks for the comparison, I prefer fairing without a doubt hehe
I also prefer the faired version. We just have to figure out how to get clipons onto the fork now. As it is the bodywork will not let all the controls fit there. We have race bodywork coming. We will see after that.
-BR
I had a gsxr 600, gsxr 750, then a gsxs 1000 naked, (didn't care for it) then got the gsxs 1000GT (which I have now and love it) id of been a customer of the 8r personally. I think it is a nice bike for what it is.
That last sentence is extremely important and something everyone should keep in mind! - Mark
"The diameter of the outer fork tubes is different." Size difference? Different brand? Would be helpful for a video like this.
The forks are both different brand, and different outer diameter at bottom clamp, as well as different internals. Even If the numbers are provided, what makes this actually helpful?
Is the sound of the Akrapovic enough if you remove the db killer to go down the street?
What do you mean by "enough"? If you're asking if this system is loud with the dB killer removed, yes it is. - Mark
So few of the 4cyl biased people actually possess the skill sets that would in actuality mean anything on the day to day use case, or even on track. But that doesn’t seem to stem the flow of naysaying on Suzuki’s GSX8’s.
I love controversy over bikes. It keeps the subject in the forefront of people's attention. Let them keep going. We can squash all that at the track.
-BR
@@TSTindustriesI hate it when people try to push their opinion on others. "4 cylinders or go home, 83hp is never enough power!" I own a 4 cyl right now but I drove an 8R today. I actually love the 8R! Live and let live.
PLEASE. Make a harness for the front turn signals of a 2021 Honda cb1000r. I can’t find anyone who has them! It’s a 2 pin and I’d like to install my RIZOMA Legerra. The harness they recommend does not work
How much weight have you been able to remove off the 8S? Is getting to 420lbs feasible and reasonable??
I've heard that the "S" sports kyb front forks while the "R" has big piston shows. Is this true?
Per the Suzuki website, the 8R has SHOWA front forks and the 8S seems to have KYB. We do plan on taking both to the track and riding them back to back to tell if the change in suspension makes a noticeable difference - Mark
@TSTindustries I hope it's not a drastic difference. I'll be kicking myself if it's considerably better and I should have waited for the 8R.
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Taking in consideration that GSXR1000 have about ~6 years do you think they will release a GSX-10R 👀? I want a gixxer but I’m so afraid that two months later the came up with something new.
Sorry i don't have knowledge on that subject. Suzuki doesn't share that info within the industry until they are ready.
-BR
I'm really interested on buying that blue silver option of the 8R but I'm 6'3 and idk if it would be confortable any tall riders have try it out or someone that give some feed back... i need to drive 4 hours to try the closest one so yeah
Here is a fun idea for you... Fly down to Daytona Beach for bike week. Suzuki will have both the S and the R models available for test ride, along with the rest of their product lineup. You can accomplish the goal of test riding the bike, then take in Daytona 200 and the other MotoAmerica classes that will be racing. Check out Superscross, connect with a bunch of like minded people, and perhaps attend some motorcycle parties on Main St. Whatcha think?
-BR
Are the Handlebars on the GSX 8s interchangeable with the GSX 8r. The bars on my GSX 8s is the one thing I don't care for because they just feel awkward.
Are you wanting to put the clip-ons from the R on the S? If so, you would need the upper triple from the R model.
@@TSTindustries Thx guys, I'll have to look into something different.
I ride an 8S and love it. The 8R looks amazing and I am keen to look at a swap. Keen to understand how to squeeze another 10 bhp out of it. Also adjustable cartridges would be great!
With our TST V1 intake system, a full exhaust, and our tune we are seeing about a 10hp increase at the peak, with all other areas north of 5500rpm vastly improved also. Cartridges are coming but i have a suspicion that the R model will be focused on first. We were asked to send the S forks to our partners but they then halted that to see what the R forks are going to be like
-BR
@@TSTindustries Thanks.
Cb650r=Cbr650r
I like the tail light mod on the 8 r you didn't mention it!
It was just a little easter egg we wanted to sneak in at that time. We're getting VERY close to launching that product so be sure to sign-up for our email updates or follow us on social media.
You talk like an AI computer voice.
At least when the robot takeover happens, I can blend in fairly well apparently! 😅 -Mark
Is the sound of the Akrapovic enough if you remove the db killer to go down the street?
"Enough" is a subjective term so I can't really answer in short. I can give you my perspective though. I am 45 years old and have handled enough noise for three lifetimes. I tend to like bikes less lound nowadays. When I do track days or races I now use earplugs. For me the Akra has a nice tone but I would like it a bit less loud. If you ask one of those guys that want all eyes on them at all times you will probably hear that it's a bit quiet. Toce sent us a system of theirs for testing. If you want loud that is the one to go with.
-BR
@@TSTindustries okay so do you think arrow without db killer it’s loud right? Because I’m confused in choosing between Akra and arrow but toce I think it’s too much
@@JorgeCuestaGuisasolayea i think Arrow without dB killer os too loud for me. The Akra is probably the best sound wise for me, but that is not how I really choose exhausts. We run them all on the dyno and then i pick the one that accomplishes my goals best.
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Can the 8s swap to clip on as well? Need the 8s to be a bit aggressive
It can be you would need 3 inch risers if you mount below the upper triple. A rider on a Facebook Group had posted their 8S with clip-ons.
@@TSTindustries what if replace with the 8r triple clamp?
@@fafu85 you would still need risers to avoid issues with clearance.
@@TSTindustries hurmm please rnd 1 clipon for gsx8s 🥲🥲🥲
I'm curious on the other way around, an R with the handlebars from the S, together with a double bubble windscreen would make it a very fun bike for me.
Loving my 8r do you know if they are capable of being GP swapped from what i can find it looks like you just rotate the control rod end 180 degrees and it should be good but this is my first sport bike and first brand new bike so im not keen on making random edits to the bike without reputable information and a guide
You cannot accomplish that easily. It will require aftermarket rearsets with the brake lever on them having the rod attachment behind the pivot point, or a turnbuckle system.
-BR
Nice review. Just facts. 👍
Great comparison. Imagine the R in the S blue/white color scheme. I think the blue subframe and wheels looks so distinctive. 😏
Luckily we can swap the wheels and subframe pretty easily but the fairings, not so much haha. -Mark
@@TSTindustries 😁
White paint and bronze wheels like a VFR800 would look great on the R.
@@chazlyle41 Bronze? That color looks more like gold to me. Still, if it's that stock color what you mean, I agree with you it would look great on a white R. 😎
@@JESUSISCALLINGYOU7 The 2024 Suzuki GSX-S1000GT bronze wheels will do :D
Both bikes are lame, Brand new low tech low performance overweight budget pos.
This is an interesting opinion for sure. Same tech as most modern liter bikes, under $10k, sure they’re a little heavy but also capable of 90+ hp for a sub-1000cc twin. Curious on what bikes you find not lame. -Mark
@@TSTindustriesThis. It doesn't have corner ABS or tilt sensors and cruise control, but that's about all you're missing out on. 83hp can be a lot of fun. It's a street sport, not a super sport.