Putting shalnark aka Walmart armin above nobunaga, and machi is insane Shalnark struggled to damage a chimera ant soldier and literally had to go super saiyan to win Nobunaga has been said to scale to uvogin if not outright beat him in a fight Uvogin being the physical strongest Machi was confident in being strong enough to kill post mortem nen hisoka Who no diff and one shotted shalnark. Hell I will argue kalluto may also be stronger as unlike shalnark who had to go super saiyan against a soldier class chimera ant, kalluto easily dispatched of hers with minor difficulty.
@@ginomontella9429 I mean I understand but like his physical nen should be able to quite literally just burst through the pion class ant though again he was pretty confident in fighting zazan
@@Zeno1781 manipulators and conjurers are not physically strong. Their strenght comes from the ability. Shalnark could have never expected the ant to be already controlled. If it wasn't, he would have easily won without using autopilot
Agree on Chrollo #1 for sure but the way you say it makes it seem like he wasn't trying and still handled the Zoldycks. The fight ended after 2 minutes and Chrollo was going to die if it went on obviously. He was just stalling because he knew he wasn't gonna die (prophecy) so he had to buy time for Illumi to kill the dons.
The only reason Chrollo was about to die was cause he wasn't trying to kill them. Zeno even admits to Chrollo that in a one on one, if Chrollo was actually trying to kill him, Chrollo would win.
@@whawhawhawhaaaa That's in a 1v1, not in a 1v2. Also, what Zeno says is that he would win 1v1 but if Chrollo was trying it would be a "different story". He doesn't actually say Chrollo would beat him if he tried in the official translation. So this statement implies it could go either way, Chrollo/Zeno/Silva are on the same tier. To say Chrollo was handling them 1v2 without trying is disingenuous when he himself was just stalling for Illumi to call and knew he would be safe because of the fortune. Not saying you said this but a lot of people do.
@@vayne-he9yi Wasn't Zeno prepared to lose his life to defeat Chrollo? This was during their 1v2 where they were trying to kill Chrollo and Chrollo was merely trying to stall.
@@BadAtUA-cam That's just how the Zoldycks operate and Chrollo is obviously a dangerous opponent. I'm not sure how Chrollo stalling works against my point though, it proves it if anything. Chrollo knew he couldn't win a 1v2 against two people on his level so he was just stalling for Illumi.
To clear things a bit, I want to remind everyone that silva, when he fought chrollo, pretty much didn’t fight. He didn’t even use his nen. The two nen balls he threw were kinda like regular kikoha if you compare to DB. Even Zeno didn’t go all out. Also, It’s important to keep in mind about uvo that as the guy said, kurapika had the ideal abilities to fight him (unbreakable chain against someone who only relies on strength) and that kurapika’s nen is literally MADE to fight PT members. Like, it’s straight up designed to fight them. So yeah, keep those things in mind while powerscaling !! Great video btw !!
uvo is the second, and as for his defeat against Kurapika, it is because Kurapika's chain is the weak point of spiders, so they will all be defeated in the same way. 3th is between phinks and fitan, I think their strength is close, the 5th is Nobunaga, and the 6th is Machi
Zeno said it himself that chrollo wasn’t trying to kill them and was stalling so he could steal their abilities, chrollo even says “so he noticed” right after laying on the ground complaining he didn’t get enough time to steal them
@@lucaspimentacruzmazarak6112 You’re assuming he wasn’t trying to steal their powers because he saw that as his only route to success. What we do know, silva fought Chrollo solo in the past and killed a phantom troupe member at the time. Indicates Chrollo couldn’t incapacitate him. He Chrollo might be able to beat him, but not to a point that he could stop him, neutralise him. He then ends the fight asking Zeno who would win. This notion he took it light is farcical. He literally collapses once the fight is over. For me this fight is hard to quantify there’s a lot of respect between the opponents, but Chrollo doesn’t do a single lick of damage. He meanwhile gets hit multiple times. Now maybe Chrollo is top tier, but you cannot say that definitively, he’s not had a single clean definitive 1 vs 1. Hisoka vs him was essentially him trashing hisoka albeit with massive prep and borrowed powers in a handpicked arena. So going off implication you could use that same logic used to praise Chrollo to argue he was afraid of hisoka so he stacked the deck to the point where he could win. For me Chrollo is entirely unquantifiable. Low ball he’s just a hair below silva. High ball he’s a touch above Zeno. But I don’t think there’s definitive evidence either way.
@@johnboy1760 silva didn't ever fight chrollo, also from what they said chrollo didn't try to kill silva and zeno but he tried to steal their abilities to reuse them in the future. I think if he fought seriously and illumi didn't stop the fight he would've lost, but he was still 1v2
@@ovowar I laughed because it's a funny way of saying "I'm right and you can't argue with me, if you think otherwise you're uninformed." It's sort of a funny insult for anyone who disagrees.
Facts lol Imagine not being able to at least fathom the chances that Feitan or someone could power gap him. Feitan summoned a Sun 💀 and the rest of the troupe ran from fear
@@bonnie_requiem8843 yes , yes it does . Hunter Hunter been around since the 90s it's actually quite disrespectful to refer to a well established character as a Walmart version of armin
@@bomberdawesome we all saw kalluto says fei is on different level when he fought against zazan he's from zoldyck family I guess he saw their brothers fighting idk who's stronger since they haven't exposed their true power excuse me if my grammar sucks still learning hhe
Right? I wanted to press the 'don't recommend this channel' button but it's the kid's first strike so I'll be slightly kind to him. 😐 And also, I'm staying for the other HxH loyalists in the comments section.
@@rushpatriot2866 not at all Hisoka is physically stronger (support in the manga when they listed the troupes physical strength) in a even 1v1 match I believe hisoka wins because his abilities don't require a lot of nen while chrollo needs to spend more of his reserves on his ability There are a good amount of yt vids that back this claim
@@Legacy_45 There's also a lot of youtube videos about the earth being flat, but that's not true. I don’t actually have a take on who should win, just find the yt videos are proof argument silly.
Chrollo benefits from prep time. He likes to be 100% sure that he's winning, but it doesn't mean he needs prep time. He doesn't rely on it. He fought both Zeno & Silva at the same time without prep time. Also we don't know what's in that book of his. Making him incredibly unpredictable.
@@Night-Shade.if illumi takes 2 more minutes to kill the dons and update them, chrollo would be cooked. Chrollo is very smart and powerful, but hxh works on who uses their hatsu the best and battle iq, or just brute force. There is no way that chrollo could beat 2 of the most incredible nen users in the series who are world renowned assassins. Chrollo is a beast in his own right but people are delusional thinking chrollo could win that fight.
@@HoopsRaccoon I mean Zeno’s words after the fight say it better than I could. Also he was sacrificing himself to just kill Chrollo. Chrollo was using a cloth ffs. Wasn’t even fighting.
@@Night-Shade. I think what Zeno says gets misinterpreted often. He said the fight would be different if chrollo was trying to kill him and not be purely defensive, not that chrollo would win. Fighting to kill vs fighting to stall look very different.
these 'naruto fanboy types' are known for their audacity, unfortunately. 😐 It's a feature of their generation. Nothing we can do about it. 🪳 PS. I agree about Machi. Physically stronger than Chrollo. I'm expecting a showcase of her nen range in the upcoming new chapters since we have seen her get outraged and heard so many hints of her strength in the 1999 anime. 🤞🏼
@@allahisgood696 and ? Bro yall glaze machi based off her looks she hasn’t done anything in the series fight wise lol. Shalnark autopilot mode would smoke her ass.
@@kenfromstreetfighter3432She was able to stop killua's hand thrust to stomach with her abs , yes ABS he wasn't able to pull his arm back , and she can fix severed body parts so yes machi is stronger and way better than him
@@kc_h7hbruh if illumi kills them two minutes later instead, chrollo is dead. The timing of that is ridiculous but chrollo would’ve received an L. As we’ve seen with Netero, just because you die doesn’t mean you lost the fight.
I actually think Machi on average is stronger than shalnark. She is canonically physically stronger her nen ability is more versatile and trying to get a pin on her would be more difficult.
Yea shalnark doesnt specialize in fighting. He actually avoids fights because he doesnt want to use sayan mode. He's in the troupe because he can mascarate as people and control them. He isnt good at fighting and he knows that so he developed a ability that makes him so powerfull but at a great cost. There's a misconception that all troupe members are top elite fighters but that's not true. Kurtopi, shalnark pokunada are not fighters. But their abilities are phantom troup level tho
@@swordbreaker5968 One piece is actually tied as my favourite anime along with hunter x hunter but you might as well watch them both,one piece will take you a long time to finish and in my opinion watching something for a long time straight ruins the charm fast so watching another show at least keeps you interested in both to the point you actually keep your interest for both longer
I'd say Uvogine deserves 2nd place... Kurapika who has powers especially created to trap Spiders had tough time with him, while others wouldnt put that much of a fight...
Nobunaga def #3, he is crazy blocking uvogin's attack with just the sheathed blade of his sword. Won against gon in arm wrestling multiple times without fail only losing to being caught off guard, mind you without using any inch of nen.
Nobu is an enhancers enhancer as much as uvo was. Nobu is always ready and looking to charge straight in and fight. His en and even what he’s shown so far during the succession arc still leaves a lot to be desired. But he is definitely no slouch and smart with how he wants to engage. Charging in may be the best option sometimes, and it makes sense that his personality is like that because him and uvo were the attack squad.
@@deericking3932 but strength only matters so much. Nobu is highly intelligent as well. He has feats and hasn’t even shown his hatsu yet even while getting kills off during the succession war.
I agree with this list excluding Walmart Armin. With how much fatigue he got for the short amount of time he was golden-boy, it's definitely not his strong suit. And tbh I haven't seen him do anything that would be note-worthy in a battle from his mind control antenna. We haven't seen much of the rest, but I'd say nobunaga and pink-haired threads girl are both easily stronger. Holes-boy just seems like an easy "damage or plug the holes so they make a difference sound" -kinda win Im glad you put phinx in 3rd. I've always thought he was OP based on what we know, especially if he has the chance to "prepare" for a fight.
Y would anyone disagree with chrollo being the strongest we knew this before he ever had any feats the leader of a group at peak is always more powerful than those below them
"mAnAgEd tO bEaT HiSoKa," yeah after a whole fucking year of planning, running away like a bitch, and borrowing 3 different abilities specifically tailored to defeat Hisoka. Like do YOU not read the manga? Especially after their fight, with Hisokas post mortem nen, he's 10x stronger than the rest of the troupe.
Oh, I didn't catch the walmart armin part at first listen. I'm taking back my 'like'. Tsk tsk..... At this point in my life, I'm mildly annoyed by these ingrate 'naruto fanboy types' who have no respect for classic iconic animes and think that their 2000s-onwards-copy-paste-animes are the standard. 😐 PS. I wonder if he also thinks Feitan is a budget levi. 😐
@@ginomontella9429 3 members are not fighters. Franklin doesnt seem too impressive unless he can emit nen bombs. Shizuku is probably after Franklin and killuas little brothers is then after her and then there's the top 7. I would say machi is top 5
@@ginomontella9429 we did see more of her. We know she can flex her abs so hard it traps killua's hand thats sharper then a blade. Thats something I guess. We know her sewing things are incredibly versatile when it comes to battle or anything else like healing or tracking. The only thing we know about Franklin is that he has nen bullets. They are just normal bullets but they pierce through nen, doesnt sound to impressive
Although Hisoka isn’t a member anymore and Illumi just joined I’d definitely say they’re both top 4 at the least. For me it’d have to be but you could definitely argue Feitan being higher Chrollo, Hisoka, Illumi, Feitan
a lot of people underestimating nobunaga and the string woman. nobunaga is easily next to chrollo and the string woman easily disables hisoka no problem
I mean it's crazy how many works aot ripped off from. U got HxH with some characters designs, code geass with some plot elements and the visual novel Muv Luv... and maybe even more yet to discover. And yet people worship it like it came with something new.
@@geox8485 He took some plot elements from Code Geass and themes. The same themes and even ending lol +characters designs and their traits. So u got Levi who literally been wrote to behave the same like Feitan. Same with Armin - Kurapika, Annie - Pakunoda etc So it means a lot rather than just inspiration when what he did is literally copy-paste. Isayama is a f r - a u - d and his fans are STOOPID for thinking his a genius or something.
This is probably the most wack list I’ve ever seen. You got Chrollo and Feitan correct but I feel like you accidentally got them right because it looks like you not counting Hisoka. Chrollo’s fight between Zeno and Silva is cool, but nobody in that fight fought for real. Chrollo was trying to yoink abilities and the Zoldycks were just doing a job. It’s cool but it doesn’t say a lot about Chrollo The one time we saw him fight for real was against Hisoka and it was the most biased fight I’ve ever seen in fiction. Chrollo got to pick everything about where and when they fought and he admits he spent a full year prepping for the fight because he needed to 100% beat Hisoka. Yeah he beat Hisoka, but to call that a fight is a joke, that was a massacre all because Hisoka is a dumbass and let Chrollo play him like that.
Bro are you clueless feitan can destroy hisoka if he gets serious the more you hit him the stronger he'll get all the members had to run proving how dangerous he'll get
@@shaisalters7469That’s not a valid reason, you’re assuming Feitan will be able to live to use his ability. Hisoka is a master combatant and Feitan needs to accumulate damage, if you lethally wound him before he can use his ability he just dies. Shalnark got his head taken away before he could go SSJ and all he would have to do is put a pin on his body. Someone like Nobunaga can definitely one shot Feitan if he strikes lethally and it lands.
Stealing abilities is part of Chrollo's ability lmao, not everyone can do that. Besides, Chrollo even explained meticulously to hisoka how his abilities worked, he could have fought him directly without explanation and maybe he would have won even easier than that.
It’s hard not to put kortopi in the top 5. Outside of battle, that’s one of the most useful nen abilities we’ve seen with a variety of uses. Everything ain’t about battle, which is usually what these rankings are about.
@@professionalhaterofhating the ability to copy anything while touching it and making an exact replica for 24 hours? What men ability is more useful than that, outside of battle? And I don’t want to spoil the manga but kortopis ability was used in battle and made it near impossible to deal with.
Phinks has in strength with his punch no limit. For example he could rotate his arm maybe 1000 times and he could one punch many opponents. However his punch would take a lot of time to prepare
@@tolgaakgun5961 To simplify what you said if you don't mind technically off of immediate strength Uvogin is stronger even compared to Phinks if he cranked a few times(3 to 7 cranks is a few in my opinion) but technically phinks could be stronger it's just it takes hella time for a god tier punch
@@tolgaakgun5961 yeah lots of time to prepare. Time he’s not going to have in a 1v1. All uvogin needs is a straight jab to do his Big Bang impact. Which has been one of the most lethal attacks we’ve seen in the entire series. Kurapkia well after the chimera ant needs to dodge bullets because they will in his words kill him while uvogin can tank rocket launchers and sniper bullets off guard to the head. Uvogin is ranked the STRONGEST for a reason. Phinks is an enhanced just like him. Uvogins only weakness as stated by chrollo the leader of all the spiders is him verse conjures and manipulator. So no. Phinks get bodied.
You can't just leave Machi out of the list like that. There haven't been too many opportunities for her to show her full strength, but she has always been confident enough to throw down with some of the strongest members of the phantom troupe (including #2 and #3 on this list). Aside from that, her nen abilities are extremely useful. I'd also give an honorable mention to Franklin, imagine having 10 machine guns on you at all times
I'm with you on Chrollo, but tbf, he only stalled long enough for the zoldycs to not go all out(they had to worry about it being a clean kill and not bring down the building). And as for Hisoka he literally had all the prep time in the world. . . AND STILL DIDN'T FINISH THE JOB.💀 (I say that fight was closer to a draw as well, he had literally everything stacked against Hisoka, he had the 'turf' advantage and the very complex plan with multiple techniques pre-planned, and Hisoka not only put up a serious fight, but still made it out alive.)
Uvogin is clearly the second (without Hisoka, which, in fact, isn't a member). Feitan is so weak that his ko couldn't hurt Zazan (who is only a squad leader chimera ant, so her power is similar to Rammot, who was easilu defeated by Killua). Phinks need to use his ability to match a regular Uvogin punch and he has lower resistance.
OMG. You forgot Machi, Nobunaga , Paku and… the gun guy😢 Well, at least you put feithan witch is my favorite character in hxh thought. But Machi is my second!!
I honestly don't think Uvogin is that strong; he relies too much on brute force alone. I think Kurapika would have a harder time dealing with other Spiders with more special abilities. For example Shizuku, she's physically among the weakest but all it takes is for her to make a deep enough scratch on you and order Blinky to suck all your blood, if you don't think quickly of a way to hold back your own blood you're doomed.
Who let this man cook 😭😭😭 Uvogin is stronger than both feitan and phinks lmao, he's a sacrificial lamb to show how fucking broken Emperor time is. Feitan and Phinks and their feats wouldn't last that long in emperor time combined.
Shalnark is my boy but he's way too high here. He was never a fighter, he was one of the troupe's information gatherers. Nobu, Franklin, Machi, and Bonolenov probably all scale higher than him, though it's uncertain cuz autopilot is hacks. Also depending on what iteration of the troupe we're talking about here, Illumi should be right up there in 2nd or 3rd, Hisoka as well but he might not be included being a "fake" troupe member.
Hisoka could definitely kill Chrollo. The reason he killed Kortopi and Shalnark was so that Chrollo couldnt use their nen-ability anymore. Once enough of Chrollos stolen abilities are gone, Hisoka would easily win.
Dunno man.. uvogin feels like top 3 at best. He was powerful AF. He got outplayed by Kurapika so bad though..then again no spider can go against kurapika if they didnt know his ability. His jail chain that forces zetsu is one of the most OP skill in HXH
No way feitan or Phinks are stronger than Uvogin, Uvo is a better enhancer than phinks and Feitan wouldnt survive enough hits from uvo to use his pain packer ability (honestly Feitan might get one shot by big bang impact).
He beat Hisoka because Hisoka let him pick the place and Chrollo had plenty of time to prepare if it was a open battle Hisoka wouldve geat him.And killua Grandfather said if Chrollo and him fought Chrollo would loose.
Uvogin I think they said was the strongest out of them being above Feitan and he is definitely stronger than phinx because phinxs ability requires prep time which against uvogine he won’t have.
Nah it was completely unfair for Hisoka what Chrollo did was had Hisoka fighting in his conditions. Chrollo went preparing for months for his master plan to beating Hisoka he used 5 abilities Kortopi's ability: Gallery Fake Shalnark's ability: Black Voice Order Stamp Convert Hands Sun and Moon And he was avoiding Hisoka throughout the fight using the audiences to his advantage.
I'd argue Armin is a Walmart Shalnark
Right he’s the og version
Yes Armin is Walmart shalrank
Yes this is fax
I agree
It's about who's more popular
Putting shalnark aka Walmart armin above nobunaga, and machi is insane
Shalnark struggled to damage a chimera ant soldier and literally had to go super saiyan to win
Nobunaga has been said to scale to uvogin if not outright beat him in a fight
Uvogin being the physical strongest
Machi was confident in being strong enough to kill post mortem nen hisoka
Who no diff and one shotted shalnark.
Hell I will argue kalluto may also be stronger as unlike shalnark who had to go super saiyan against a soldier class chimera ant, kalluto easily dispatched of hers with minor difficulty.
armin is the walmart version of shalnark
We also never seen his Nen Abilities
Shalnark was simply caught in a bad match up against the ant. And he didn't have his ability against hisoka. But i agree that uvo is underrated
@@ginomontella9429 I mean I understand but like his physical nen should be able to quite literally just burst through the pion class ant though again he was pretty confident in fighting zazan
@@Zeno1781 manipulators and conjurers are not physically strong. Their strenght comes from the ability. Shalnark could have never expected the ant to be already controlled. If it wasn't, he would have easily won without using autopilot
The nobunaga disrespect is crazy
Sphinx theoretically outclasses allat. 1 billion revolutions, destroys the galaxy
Daddy #2 short king, FEITAN
Phinx also would get absolutely demolished by a full powered Uvogin punch, and don't think yall understand how much of a punch Uvogin Packs bro
I want to see just how strong Razor is in a real fight
Agree on Chrollo #1 for sure but the way you say it makes it seem like he wasn't trying and still handled the Zoldycks. The fight ended after 2 minutes and Chrollo was going to die if it went on obviously. He was just stalling because he knew he wasn't gonna die (prophecy) so he had to buy time for Illumi to kill the dons.
The only reason Chrollo was about to die was cause he wasn't trying to kill them. Zeno even admits to Chrollo that in a one on one, if Chrollo was actually trying to kill him, Chrollo would win.
@@whawhawhawhaaaa That's in a 1v1, not in a 1v2. Also, what Zeno says is that he would win 1v1 but if Chrollo was trying it would be a "different story". He doesn't actually say Chrollo would beat him if he tried in the official translation. So this statement implies it could go either way, Chrollo/Zeno/Silva are on the same tier. To say Chrollo was handling them 1v2 without trying is disingenuous when he himself was just stalling for Illumi to call and knew he would be safe because of the fortune. Not saying you said this but a lot of people do.
@@vayne-he9yi Wasn't Zeno prepared to lose his life to defeat Chrollo? This was during their 1v2 where they were trying to kill Chrollo and Chrollo was merely trying to stall.
@@BadAtUA-cam That's just how the Zoldycks operate and Chrollo is obviously a dangerous opponent. I'm not sure how Chrollo stalling works against my point though, it proves it if anything. Chrollo knew he couldn't win a 1v2 against two people on his level so he was just stalling for Illumi.
To clear things a bit, I want to remind everyone that silva, when he fought chrollo, pretty much didn’t fight. He didn’t even use his nen. The two nen balls he threw were kinda like regular kikoha if you compare to DB. Even Zeno didn’t go all out. Also, It’s important to keep in mind about uvo that as the guy said, kurapika had the ideal abilities to fight him (unbreakable chain against someone who only relies on strength) and that kurapika’s nen is literally MADE to fight PT members. Like, it’s straight up designed to fight them. So yeah, keep those things in mind while powerscaling !! Great video btw !!
"Number 4 goes to Uvogin"
Kurapika joins the chat
When I heard next to you in background, I was like screw the video time to hear some godtier piano track!
uvo is the second, and as for his defeat against Kurapika, it is because Kurapika's chain is the weak point of spiders, so they will all be defeated in the same way.
3th is between phinks and fitan, I think their strength is close, the 5th is Nobunaga, and the 6th is Machi
Feitan would die from a full powered Uvogin punch before he can activate pain packer. None other opinion matters, Uvogin is atleast 2nd
Kurapika = younger Armin
Shalnark= older Armin
Technically not rip off admin because he was before armin
He went ssj
Chrollo was fighting for his life. Whatchu mean he wasn't serious
Zeno said it himself that chrollo wasn’t trying to kill them and was stalling so he could steal their abilities, chrollo even says “so he noticed” right after laying on the ground complaining he didn’t get enough time to steal them
@@lucaspimentacruzmazarak6112 You’re assuming he wasn’t trying to steal their powers because he saw that as his only route to success. What we do know, silva fought Chrollo solo in the past and killed a phantom troupe member at the time. Indicates Chrollo couldn’t incapacitate him. He Chrollo might be able to beat him, but not to a point that he could stop him, neutralise him.
He then ends the fight asking Zeno who would win.
This notion he took it light is farcical. He literally collapses once the fight is over. For me this fight is hard to quantify there’s a lot of respect between the opponents, but Chrollo doesn’t do a single lick of damage.
He meanwhile gets hit multiple times.
Now maybe Chrollo is top tier, but you cannot say that definitively, he’s not had a single clean definitive 1 vs 1.
Hisoka vs him was essentially him trashing hisoka albeit with massive prep and borrowed powers in a handpicked arena.
So going off implication you could use that same logic used to praise Chrollo to argue he was afraid of hisoka so he stacked the deck to the point where he could win.
For me Chrollo is entirely unquantifiable. Low ball he’s just a hair below silva. High ball he’s a touch above Zeno. But I don’t think there’s definitive evidence either way.
it was clear that he was only on defense
@@johnboy1760 silva didn't ever fight chrollo, also from what they said chrollo didn't try to kill silva and zeno but he tried to steal their abilities to reuse them in the future.
I think if he fought seriously and illumi didn't stop the fight he would've lost, but he was still 1v2
@@giovanji7883 Silva did fight Chrollo, he fought him twice.
Armin - Walmart Shalnark,
Bruh HxH is 90's anime, it's senseless calling Shalnark as Walmart Armin
It is a joke you know 😂damn you got no life
Armin is trash
And yea ur right
True
Even the 2011 ver still came before Aot anime
He wasn't saying Shalnark copied Armin?? I think you misunderstood the joke.
“If you disagree, I suggest watching or reading Hunter x Hunter” lol
whats the joke
@@ovowar I laughed because it's a funny way of saying "I'm right and you can't argue with me, if you think otherwise you're uninformed." It's sort of a funny insult for anyone who disagrees.
Facts lol Imagine not being able to at least fathom the chances that Feitan or someone could power gap him. Feitan summoned a Sun 💀 and the rest of the troupe ran from fear
@@jankelen nah it's just a way to tell people to shut the hell up
@@user-zs6rc3ic8x facts
How is he Walmart armin when hxh came earlier than aot
@@morocuda2090 someones unoriginal?
Was going to say the same thing
But does it matter?
@@bonnie_requiem8843 yes , yes it does . Hunter Hunter been around since the 90s it's actually quite disrespectful to refer to a well established character as a Walmart version of armin
@@DRaikageDes ok I cant argue with that point
1: Chrollo
2: Hisoka
3: Illumi
4: Feitan
5: Uvogin
6: Phinks
7: Nobunaga
8: Bonolenov
9: Machi
10: Franklin
11: Shalnark
12: Shizuku
13: Kalluto
14: Pakunoda
15: Kortopi
Illumi is part of the phatom troupe???
@@Ryuezaki Yes he joins in the manga.
@@bomberdawesome still fei is stronger lol
@@Envysenbou Stronger then Illumi? You wish.
@@bomberdawesome we all saw kalluto says fei is on different level when he fought against zazan he's from zoldyck family I guess he saw their brothers fighting idk who's stronger since they haven't exposed their true power excuse me if my grammar sucks still learning hhe
Walmart Armin caught me at ffguard
I am sure that this guy was there before attack on Titan manga by a long time
Kurapika and Palnark( I guess ) were created before Armin
@@astraverse2640 Shalnark*
Yes HxH is a 90s animé
Fr
The reason I liked armin is I thought he would be like shalnark or kurapika
Turned out to be like a disappointment how sad
Shalnarl was created before Armin ever even came to existent so Armin in a Walmart version of shalnark
Lost my respect for u-
Right? I wanted to press the 'don't recommend this channel' button but it's the kid's first strike so I'll be slightly kind to him. 😐
And also, I'm staying for the other HxH loyalists in the comments section.
Cry about it lol
Walmart one is the one who looks cheaper or lower quality. So yeah walmart armin not the other way
Still crying about it? Just wondering
@@garudabowoarmin is still cheaper tho 💀
It was kinda hisokas fault for battling on chrollos conditions
Hisoka wanted them and enjoyed em man was getting off on that shit lol
@@Dokgo22 kinda but he wanted his get back
Wouldve got smoked regardless he needed that post mortem nen amp to compete 😹
@@rushpatriot2866 not at all
Hisoka is physically stronger (support in the manga when they listed the troupes physical strength) in a even 1v1 match I believe hisoka wins because his abilities don't require a lot of nen while chrollo needs to spend more of his reserves on his ability
There are a good amount of yt vids that back this claim
@@Legacy_45 There's also a lot of youtube videos about the earth being flat, but that's not true. I don’t actually have a take on who should win, just find the yt videos are proof argument silly.
Chrollo is the batman of the HxH fandom lmao
"Can he beat this character?"
"How much prep time he got?"
Nah that goes to phink, if he has prep time he can just wind his arm thousands of times and one shot anyone
Chrollo benefits from prep time. He likes to be 100% sure that he's winning, but it doesn't mean he needs prep time. He doesn't rely on it. He fought both Zeno & Silva at the same time without prep time. Also we don't know what's in that book of his. Making him incredibly unpredictable.
@@Night-Shade.if illumi takes 2 more minutes to kill the dons and update them, chrollo would be cooked. Chrollo is very smart and powerful, but hxh works on who uses their hatsu the best and battle iq, or just brute force. There is no way that chrollo could beat 2 of the most incredible nen users in the series who are world renowned assassins. Chrollo is a beast in his own right but people are delusional thinking chrollo could win that fight.
@@HoopsRaccoon I mean Zeno’s words after the fight say it better than I could. Also he was sacrificing himself to just kill Chrollo. Chrollo was using a cloth ffs. Wasn’t even fighting.
@@Night-Shade. I think what Zeno says gets misinterpreted often. He said the fight would be different if chrollo was trying to kill him and not be purely defensive, not that chrollo would win. Fighting to kill vs fighting to stall look very different.
THE AUDACITY 😂 armin (love him) is Shal’s walmart copy. Pakunoda & machi should’ve been added very intelligent women
these 'naruto fanboy types' are known for their audacity, unfortunately. 😐 It's a feature of their generation. Nothing we can do about it. 🪳
PS. I agree about Machi. Physically stronger than Chrollo. I'm expecting a showcase of her nen range in the upcoming new chapters since we have seen her get outraged and heard so many hints of her strength in the 1999 anime. 🤞🏼
@@reichen609 Thank you, someone finally had a brain 😭, it's so tiresome dealing with all those 'baruto fanboy types' these days
Wtf does naruto have to do with this. There’s also no way your so fragile to get pressed over a joke.
My man put Shalnark abpve Nobunaga amd Machi 😭
Machi isn’t that strong at all so I think shalnark would beat her lol. But him being that high is ridiculous
@@kenfromstreetfighter3432 do u see how fast machi is?
@@allahisgood696 and ? Bro yall glaze machi based off her looks she hasn’t done anything in the series fight wise lol. Shalnark autopilot mode would smoke her ass.
@@kenfromstreetfighter3432 alright I have to agree with you, machis ability is't fight wise
@@kenfromstreetfighter3432She was able to stop killua's hand thrust to stomach with her abs , yes ABS he wasn't able to pull his arm back , and she can fix severed body parts so yes machi is stronger and way better than him
To be clear , the Zoldics also weren't going full power, so to say that he beat them its a stretch
Why wouldn't the Zoldycks go all out?they had no reason to hold back
They pretty much did. They were already ready to sacrifice to win, it just got called off last second
@@sohammitra1951 They were holding back because Chrollo was Illumi's customer. He paid Illumi to kill the ten Dons.
@@Malachi-Rhodes no the zoldycks wernt holding back. Zeno even wanted to sacrifice his life
@@kc_h7hbruh if illumi kills them two minutes later instead, chrollo is dead. The timing of that is ridiculous but chrollo would’ve received an L.
As we’ve seen with Netero, just because you die doesn’t mean you lost the fight.
I actually think Machi on average is stronger than shalnark. She is canonically physically stronger her nen ability is more versatile and trying to get a pin on her would be more difficult.
Yea shalnark doesnt specialize in fighting. He actually avoids fights because he doesnt want to use sayan mode. He's in the troupe because he can mascarate as people and control them. He isnt good at fighting and he knows that so he developed a ability that makes him so powerfull but at a great cost.
There's a misconception that all troupe members are top elite fighters but that's not true. Kurtopi, shalnark pokunada are not fighters. But their abilities are phantom troup level tho
Shalnark
I agree, Feitan is extremely talented and def has the most Ap. W list🚨
Valid, maybe I should finish HXH
Do it 😏
Why wouldn't you
@@zajinramirez2780 Dropped it to finish the rest of one piece
@@swordbreaker5968 One piece is actually tied as my favourite anime along with hunter x hunter but you might as well watch them both,one piece will take you a long time to finish and in my opinion watching something for a long time straight ruins the charm fast so watching another show at least keeps you interested in both to the point you actually keep your interest for both longer
@@zajinramirez2780 I'm on Dressrosa so it's not that far
I'd say Uvogine deserves 2nd place... Kurapika who has powers especially created to trap Spiders had tough time with him, while others wouldnt put that much of a fight...
The others would very much put up a fight. Uvo is strongest physically but others rank above him.
Nobunaga def #3, he is crazy blocking uvogin's attack with just the sheathed blade of his sword. Won against gon in arm wrestling multiple times without fail only losing to being caught off guard, mind you without using any inch of nen.
He did all this without revealing his nen ability yet :D
Nobu is an enhancers enhancer as much as uvo was. Nobu is always ready and looking to charge straight in and fight. His en and even what he’s shown so far during the succession arc still leaves a lot to be desired. But he is definitely no slouch and smart with how he wants to engage. Charging in may be the best option sometimes, and it makes sense that his personality is like that because him and uvo were the attack squad.
Nobu is technically dead in the middle in terms of strength according to Machi herself.
@@deericking3932 but strength only matters so much. Nobu is highly intelligent as well. He has feats and hasn’t even shown his hatsu yet even while getting kills off during the succession war.
@@HoopsRaccoon trust me I get that part I’m just saying what macho said in the series
I agree with this list excluding Walmart Armin. With how much fatigue he got for the short amount of time he was golden-boy, it's definitely not his strong suit. And tbh I haven't seen him do anything that would be note-worthy in a battle from his mind control antenna.
We haven't seen much of the rest, but I'd say nobunaga and pink-haired threads girl are both easily stronger. Holes-boy just seems like an easy "damage or plug the holes so they make a difference sound" -kinda win
Im glad you put phinx in 3rd. I've always thought he was OP based on what we know, especially if he has the chance to "prepare" for a fight.
You know Shalnark was made before right?
Dude Machi caught Killua's killer hand with her abs!! That should say something XD
You mean Walmart shalnark?
Y would anyone disagree with chrollo being the strongest we knew this before he ever had any feats the leader of a group at peak is always more powerful than those below them
"mAnAgEd tO bEaT HiSoKa," yeah after a whole fucking year of planning, running away like a bitch, and borrowing 3 different abilities specifically tailored to defeat Hisoka. Like do YOU not read the manga? Especially after their fight, with Hisokas post mortem nen, he's 10x stronger than the rest of the troupe.
Oh, I didn't catch the walmart armin part at first listen. I'm taking back my 'like'. Tsk tsk.....
At this point in my life, I'm mildly annoyed by these ingrate 'naruto fanboy types' who have no respect for classic iconic animes and think that their 2000s-onwards-copy-paste-animes are the standard. 😐
PS. I wonder if he also thinks Feitan is a budget levi. 😐
Top 5 should be
1 chrollo
2 feitan
3 uvogin
4 phinks
5 benelove
What about hisoka, he’s a spider
He should be either number 2 or 3
@@shahid-y2k And You lost
He'll win the rematch 100%@@chrollolucilfer9875
Machi shizuku and kalluto are stronger than shalnark
Kalluto isn't.
Walmart ssj caught me off guard
Bro that ain’t a Walmart version of that, you guys just goku tards that says he solos any character
No man where is machi she must be in the top 3 strongest with chorollo and ovugin
Second is feitan without a doubt, the other members had to run away to survive when he was fighting zazan.
Maybe she would be third
And what as she done to prove that?
@@ginomontella9429 3 members are not fighters. Franklin doesnt seem too impressive unless he can emit nen bombs. Shizuku is probably after Franklin and killuas little brothers is then after her and then there's the top 7. I would say machi is top 5
@@kc_h7h franklin, just like machi, never fought. There is no reason to say he's weaker than machi
@@ginomontella9429 we did see more of her. We know she can flex her abs so hard it traps killua's hand thats sharper then a blade. Thats something I guess. We know her sewing things are incredibly versatile when it comes to battle or anything else like healing or tracking.
The only thing we know about Franklin is that he has nen bullets. They are just normal bullets but they pierce through nen, doesnt sound to impressive
Although Hisoka isn’t a member anymore and Illumi just joined I’d definitely say they’re both top 4 at the least.
For me it’d have to be but you could definitely argue Feitan being higher
Chrollo, Hisoka, Illumi, Feitan
a lot of people underestimating nobunaga and the string woman. nobunaga is easily next to chrollo and the string woman easily disables hisoka no problem
You mean machi?
You spoiled the hisoka/chrollo fight for me
Genuinely thought this was sneako for a minute
I mean it's crazy how many works aot ripped off from.
U got HxH with some characters designs, code geass with some plot elements and the visual novel Muv Luv... and maybe even more yet to discover.
And yet people worship it like it came with something new.
@@geox8485
He took some plot elements from Code Geass and themes. The same themes and even ending lol +characters designs and their traits. So u got Levi who literally been wrote to behave the same like Feitan. Same with Armin - Kurapika, Annie - Pakunoda etc
So it means a lot rather than just inspiration when what he did is literally copy-paste.
Isayama is a f r - a u - d and his fans are STOOPID for thinking his a genius or something.
Isn't the swordsman stronger than Armin?
illumi be like 😭
Hisoka is also phantom troup
@@gurshansingh6869he quit
@@gurshansingh6869he left the troupe after yorknew
Hisoka was never a member, his tattoo was fake the whole time. He was only pretending to get close to Chrollo
@@SoulStareFrog he was officially a spider 🕷️. He wasn’t faking being a spider, he was a spider until it no longer benefited him.
This is probably the most wack list I’ve ever seen. You got Chrollo and Feitan correct but I feel like you accidentally got them right because it looks like you not counting Hisoka.
Chrollo’s fight between Zeno and Silva is cool, but nobody in that fight fought for real. Chrollo was trying to yoink abilities and the Zoldycks were just doing a job. It’s cool but it doesn’t say a lot about Chrollo
The one time we saw him fight for real was against Hisoka and it was the most biased fight I’ve ever seen in fiction. Chrollo got to pick everything about where and when they fought and he admits he spent a full year prepping for the fight because he needed to 100% beat Hisoka.
Yeah he beat Hisoka, but to call that a fight is a joke, that was a massacre all because Hisoka is a dumbass and let Chrollo play him like that.
Hisoka not really a troupe member it's even stated in the anime and manga he just there to fight chrollo
The order imo is
Chrollo
Hisoka
Uvogin/Feitan
Phinks
Machi
Nobunaga
Franklin/Bonolenov
Shizuku
Shalnark
Kalluto
Pakunoda
Kortopi
Bro are you clueless feitan can destroy hisoka if he gets serious the more you hit him the stronger he'll get all the members had to run proving how dangerous he'll get
@@shaisalters7469That’s not a valid reason, you’re assuming Feitan will be able to live to use his ability. Hisoka is a master combatant and Feitan needs to accumulate damage, if you lethally wound him before he can use his ability he just dies. Shalnark got his head taken away before he could go SSJ and all he would have to do is put a pin on his body. Someone like Nobunaga can definitely one shot Feitan if he strikes lethally and it lands.
Hisoka isn't a troupe member
You are forgetting illumi, and why is machi so above on that list?
Beat hisoka with cheating but yea I get it
Yeah he cheated death
Stealing abilities is part of Chrollo's ability lmao, not everyone can do that.
Besides, Chrollo even explained meticulously to hisoka how his abilities worked, he could have fought him directly without explanation and maybe he would have won even easier than that.
Nobunaga in the corner
Shalnark’s design came out decades before Armin’s did
Nobunaga should be #2 or #3
Shalnark>Uvogin>Phinks
"super saiyan"
Me: Super Sonic
Bonolenov super underrated he’s definitely in the top 5
Exactly like my boy literally summoned jupiter lol
@@juliacarat that’s what I’m saying. You can’t even touch him before he beats tf out of you with noises
What about Nobunaga?
@@ronniejamesdio6889 haven’t seen the full extent of his powers. Out of what we’ve seen bonolenov is def top 5 in the spiders
Top 5? Nah, he's middle of the group. At best, I give 7th.
The parasyte ost😢
bro hxh existed in 1999
1.Kuroro
2.Feitan
3.Phinks
4.Uvo
5.Nobunaga
6.Franklin
7.Shalnark
And the rest dont matter,Hisoka would have been 2 if he was still a member
Get Franklin out of there bro😂
why is phinks above Uvogin
He called him “Walmart Armin” 😭💀
Shalnark was made before anyways…
Shalnark was made before Armin
Facts, even Levi was inspired by Feitan
Wouldn't armin be Walmart Shalnark?
Exactly man
Exactly
Exacto
Exactly
Why is hiskoa not in list
Because he isn't one of the members
Despite not having any major feats I would put Machi in the top 5
I like the parasite music
Same parasyte has the best soundtrack
Walmart armin more like Bootleg Shalnark
No way shalnark is in the top 5
It’s hard not to put kortopi in the top 5. Outside of battle, that’s one of the most useful nen abilities we’ve seen with a variety of uses. Everything ain’t about battle, which is usually what these rankings are about.
Kortopi is not a top 5 🤦🏽♂️
@@professionalhaterofhating the ability to copy anything while touching it and making an exact replica for 24 hours? What men ability is more useful than that, outside of battle? And I don’t want to spoil the manga but kortopis ability was used in battle and made it near impossible to deal with.
Wait so you took chrollos statement, and his fight with kurapika and still put phinks above uvogin? Please explain..
Phinks has in strength with his punch no limit. For example he could rotate his arm maybe 1000 times and he could one punch many opponents. However his punch would take a lot of time to prepare
@@tolgaakgun5961 To simplify what you said if you don't mind technically off of immediate strength Uvogin is stronger even compared to Phinks if he cranked a few times(3 to 7 cranks is a few in my opinion) but technically phinks could be stronger it's just it takes hella time for a god tier punch
Physical strength isn’t all that matters in a fight,phinx has a better nen ability
@@brycelinnarz9387 how so.
@@tolgaakgun5961 yeah lots of time to prepare. Time he’s not going to have in a 1v1. All uvogin needs is a straight jab to do his Big Bang impact. Which has been one of the most lethal attacks we’ve seen in the entire series. Kurapkia well after the chimera ant needs to dodge bullets because they will in his words kill him while uvogin can tank rocket launchers and sniper bullets off guard to the head. Uvogin is ranked the STRONGEST for a reason. Phinks is an enhanced just like him. Uvogins only weakness as stated by chrollo the leader of all the spiders is him verse conjures and manipulator. So no. Phinks get bodied.
Dude, you're vids are awesome and all, but why do you always use "next to you" from parasyte as the background song? That shit always gives me PTSD.
Heyy armin is the Walmart shalnark not the other way around 😅
I think I’d put uvogin over phinks, Chrollo states that uvogins Big Bang outmatches everyone so that would include Phinks and Chrollo himself
Armin is Walmart shalnark
You can't just leave Machi out of the list like that. There haven't been too many opportunities for her to show her full strength, but she has always been confident enough to throw down with some of the strongest members of the phantom troupe (including #2 and #3 on this list). Aside from that, her nen abilities are extremely useful.
I'd also give an honorable mention to Franklin, imagine having 10 machine guns on you at all times
Shalnark =
Walmart Armin❌
Walmart Goku✔️
(DBZ released in 1984, HxH in 1998, AoT in 2009)
Uvo-GEn
Tf?
His name is very easy to say, also, "Walmart Armin" 😂
Funny, he was out before Armin.
I'm with you on Chrollo, but tbf, he only stalled long enough for the zoldycs to not go all out(they had to worry about it being a clean kill and not bring down the building). And as for Hisoka he literally had all the prep time in the world. . . AND STILL DIDN'T FINISH THE JOB.💀
(I say that fight was closer to a draw as well, he had literally everything stacked against Hisoka, he had the 'turf' advantage and the very complex plan with multiple techniques pre-planned, and Hisoka not only put up a serious fight, but still made it out alive.)
Wallmart Armin? That's when you're crossing the line. Thumbs down immediately
Uvogin is clearly the second (without Hisoka, which, in fact, isn't a member).
Feitan is so weak that his ko couldn't hurt Zazan (who is only a squad leader chimera ant, so her power is similar to Rammot, who was easilu defeated by Killua).
Phinks need to use his ability to match a regular Uvogin punch and he has lower resistance.
OMG. You forgot Machi, Nobunaga , Paku and… the gun guy😢 Well, at least you put feithan witch is my favorite character in hxh thought. But Machi is my second!!
I honestly don't think Uvogin is that strong; he relies too much on brute force alone. I think Kurapika would have a harder time dealing with other Spiders with more special abilities. For example Shizuku, she's physically among the weakest but all it takes is for her to make a deep enough scratch on you and order Blinky to suck all your blood, if you don't think quickly of a way to hold back your own blood you're doomed.
Ye but lets be real here kuropika gave EVERYTHING HE HAD HIS ENTIRE BEING to kill uvokin
Phinks >> Feitan
FACTS 🔥 💯
Who let this man cook 😭😭😭
Uvogin is stronger than both feitan and phinks lmao, he's a sacrificial lamb to show how fucking broken Emperor time is.
Feitan and Phinks and their feats wouldn't last that long in emperor time combined.
Shalnark is my boy but he's way too high here. He was never a fighter, he was one of the troupe's information gatherers. Nobu, Franklin, Machi, and Bonolenov probably all scale higher than him, though it's uncertain cuz autopilot is hacks. Also depending on what iteration of the troupe we're talking about here, Illumi should be right up there in 2nd or 3rd, Hisoka as well but he might not be included being a "fake" troupe member.
Hisoka could definitely kill Chrollo. The reason he killed Kortopi and Shalnark was so that Chrollo couldnt use their nen-ability anymore.
Once enough of Chrollos stolen abilities are gone, Hisoka would easily win.
Dunno man.. uvogin feels like top 3 at best. He was powerful AF. He got outplayed by Kurapika so bad though..then again no spider can go against kurapika if they didnt know his ability. His jail chain that forces zetsu is one of the most OP skill in HXH
Armin is Walmart Shalnark
Annie is Walmart Pakunoda
Levi is Walmart Fetian
AoT took inspiration(copying in a better word) from HxH
The fact you ranked only 1/3 of them and prounounces uvo “GIN&juice” as uvo hin with a Spanish j is crazy
No way feitan or Phinks are stronger than Uvogin, Uvo is a better enhancer than phinks and Feitan wouldnt survive enough hits from uvo to use his pain packer ability (honestly Feitan might get one shot by big bang impact).
Bro number 2 is Hisoka or maybe Illumi if you wanna high ball him. Feitan’s best feat is killing Zazan.
I don't think he is counting hisoka as a phantom member.
@@correlgamers7518 well then 100% Illumi next
@@evilermontages8379 Preach it
Technically he fought the 2nd and 3rd ranked zoldyks, don't forget about the elder of the family
He beat Hisoka because Hisoka let him pick the place and Chrollo had plenty of time to prepare if it was a open battle Hisoka wouldve geat him.And killua Grandfather said if Chrollo and him fought Chrollo would loose.
Uvogin I think they said was the strongest out of them being above Feitan and he is definitely stronger than phinx because phinxs ability requires prep time which against uvogine he won’t have.
Nah it was completely unfair for Hisoka what Chrollo did was had Hisoka fighting in his conditions. Chrollo went preparing for months for his master plan to beating Hisoka he used 5 abilities
Kortopi's ability: Gallery Fake
Shalnark's ability: Black Voice
Order Stamp
Convert Hands
Sun and Moon
And he was avoiding Hisoka throughout the fight using the audiences to his advantage.
Uathantarxhantar😂 Nono
Your Walmart Armin got caked by hisoka and hisoka is ranked below him ?😂 Looks like someone read wrong manga
I'd put Uvogin a spot higher, and Shalnark somewhat lower.