Ice Climbers - Cheer Cancel Desync Guide

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  • @imESAM
    @imESAM 3 роки тому +162

    I know what I'm doing tomorrow on stream LOL

  • @jonathanmeyer2905
    @jonathanmeyer2905 3 роки тому +22

    Although i dont main icies, I am watching how this character's meta develops closely. This character is insane

  • @BlackArktos
    @BlackArktos 3 роки тому +35

    This is garbage. Show the steve steak cancel. that's all I'm here for tbh.

  • @itsnarroblox
    @itsnarroblox 2 роки тому +2

    THE most underrated Smash channel I’ve seen. The edits are OUTSTANDING

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  2 роки тому

      Thank you!!! I put a lot of heart and soul into my longer tutorials, and I love to hear that. Thank you so much!

  • @hobosojojo1476
    @hobosojojo1476 2 роки тому +3

    I always play random against my friends and get Icies EVERY TIME within 5 games I hated it but I decided after watching WADI labbing them I wanted to give them a shot. I just picked them up and trying this tech was driving me crazy but I can get the desync half the time now

  • @requiem9167
    @requiem9167 2 роки тому +2

    Great Ics videos. Found these gems while trying to find a basic guide for the whole character lol. The desync is explained very well, and the controller input overlay really helps!

  • @Imprez2564
    @Imprez2564  3 роки тому +12

    Note: another really good option (untechable!!) Is CC Dthrow (footstool with Nana and immediately dair) and Fsmash as Popo
    It kills pretty early and is completely true and untechable!

  • @00strode
    @00strode 3 роки тому +2

    by far the most useful guide i have seen

  • @GoGo_6807
    @GoGo_6807 3 роки тому +5

    This is such a great video

  • @MessengerOfEntertainment
    @MessengerOfEntertainment 3 роки тому +13

    I have ptsd from when I first fought by watching this video.

  • @vilmer2001
    @vilmer2001 3 роки тому +2

    great video! i love that so many people are hustling to advance the IC's meta. keep it prez!!!

  • @nextos
    @nextos 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much Imprez. Been wanting a guide on CC desync for ages. You're the man!

  • @eliericksson.8950
    @eliericksson.8950 3 роки тому +2

    Amazing video, you explained it really well and I was able to do my first cheer cancel my second try, I get it about 1 3rd of the time now, but I am going to work on it till I get it constant. Thanks for the instructions!

  • @daviddaniel8304
    @daviddaniel8304 6 місяців тому

    as an up and coming ice climbers main, this looks interesting. I will try this tomorrow morning and give my opinions on it.

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  6 місяців тому +1

      It's very good! Hope you get good use out of it.

  • @GameWatch-xu6sb
    @GameWatch-xu6sb 6 місяців тому +1

    I'm a huge IC main, and this is what I require!

  • @RockManSSB
    @RockManSSB 3 роки тому +7

    Just learned how to do this and I’ve been starting to get it more consistently in online matches. Time to see how far this can take me >:)

  • @turtlek6508
    @turtlek6508 3 роки тому +3

    I’m stupid, I just realized you said dash not the full run animation. Thanks for the guide!

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      I had this problem once too😂
      Thanks man!!

    • @Joe-uf9ml
      @Joe-uf9ml 3 роки тому

      Oh my god thank you

  • @dagingerbreadman70
    @dagingerbreadman70 3 роки тому +6

    Surprised with the quality of the video, cause I already know jcc but it was still a fun watch! Like the narration, good mic quality, steady voice good pace. Still don’t know the timing to varry the height of the (fair) fsmash (2:27 vs 3:40). Quality stuff!

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому +4

      Yeah it's honestly like something I just had to "feel" when I learned it. I can help you personally sometime prob!

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому +3

      BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH :)

  • @Julian-yn7ge
    @Julian-yn7ge 3 роки тому +1

    Best IC's guide by far!

  • @p_ssum
    @p_ssum 2 роки тому +1

    the superliminal music is beyond based

  • @artistjorge
    @artistjorge 3 роки тому +1

    Just like that. You earned a sub.
    Amazing video my guy

  • @ty20032
    @ty20032 3 роки тому +1

    Great vid!

  • @fatherrussiaisyourking1442
    @fatherrussiaisyourking1442 Рік тому +1

    I’M SO STUPID YOU SAID TO DASH AND I SPENT 30 MINUTES FULLY SPRINTING…ugh Lmao. Dashed and I haven’t missed it a single time yet :) thanks!!!

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  Рік тому +1

      Trust me, I've been there LOL glad to hear it

    • @fatherrussiaisyourking1442
      @fatherrussiaisyourking1442 Рік тому

      @@Imprez2564 this characters damage potential is insane even off of nair fast fall airiels and this whole time I’ve been going to locals solo Dk. You really helped a lot hope you keep growing haha

    • @emmanuelgonzalez2295
      @emmanuelgonzalez2295 6 місяців тому

      this... genuinely helped me. thank you. i was doing the same thing

    • @WasabiApple100
      @WasabiApple100 25 днів тому

      So dash is like the movement where it’s 1 level slower than fully running?

  • @combustiblemicrowave3633
    @combustiblemicrowave3633 3 роки тому +1

    *melee handoffs intensify*

  • @rockzyk1291
    @rockzyk1291 Рік тому

    Points for Superliminal soundtrack. Crazy game.

  • @calebconkin108
    @calebconkin108 2 роки тому +1

    Finally a good ice climbers guide. Spot dodging and dash backs and all those other things suck.

  • @ward3n1
    @ward3n1 2 роки тому +1

    Ferb I know what we're going to do today

  • @nintendope8837
    @nintendope8837 3 роки тому +2

    ...now I'm thinking...is nana just popos persona

  • @nintendope8837
    @nintendope8837 3 роки тому +2

    Ngl I just came here looking for other cheer cancels than jump...I'm blred I need more minds to prey on lol

  • @YubeiBelvet
    @YubeiBelvet 3 роки тому

    Much more to learn. Thanks :)

  • @Elasted1
    @Elasted1 3 роки тому +2

    I dont understand. I can do the everything up to choosing weather to do a smash attack or something after the throw. do i just input a smash attack? cuz everytime i do it i foward throw and do something i didnt want to.

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      A+B smash only!

    • @Elasted1
      @Elasted1 3 роки тому

      @@Imprez2564 ohhh i see i was using smash stick. thank you for your response

  • @stayin239
    @stayin239 2 роки тому

    that first combo showcase was just ICs doing a steve combo on steve

  • @snipp8871
    @snipp8871 3 роки тому +9

    This is a really good, underrated tutorial!
    Any tips on how to do it with a pro controller?

    • @Freezie-oz9we
      @Freezie-oz9we 3 роки тому

      i recommend using shoulder button jump and spamming them when you hit grab

    • @snipp8871
      @snipp8871 3 роки тому

      @@Freezie-oz9we k thx

  • @seanjung8578
    @seanjung8578 3 роки тому +1

    WOW

  • @STSSilver99
    @STSSilver99 3 роки тому +4

    Hey there, so I just wanted to start using them since I never really played Smash bros before. So what controller set up would you recommend for the GC one?

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому +1

      I am unusual, and I use default with tilt stick, but I hear setting jump to a trigger/bumper is common

  • @justjasonk3998
    @justjasonk3998 3 роки тому +1

    ❤️

  • @TimoSylver
    @TimoSylver 6 місяців тому

    I only managed to get them desynched 2 times in Training mode. Often when I tap grab and jump the game converts them to a short hop aerial.

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  6 місяців тому

      If you're using the grab button and jump, make sure you're tapping it twice quickly, and try it out of dash (not run, but dash). Dash is easier than standing

  • @TheArmandoGutierrez
    @TheArmandoGutierrez 3 роки тому +2

    Man I love icies, been maining them for a while, but I just can't seem to get this desync, idk if its my control or me but I just can't seem to get this anywhere near consistently

    • @TheArmandoGutierrez
      @TheArmandoGutierrez 3 роки тому

      If anyone has a link showing the physical hand movement that’d be lit, I feel like it’s hard for me to imitate the button mapping

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      @@TheArmandoGutierrez my best suggestion is to start by doing a dash grab but just MASH Z+X twice
      Do it "at the same time" but realistically the game has to read the grab input first. Z+X is the easiest way for jump cc imo

  • @calibvr
    @calibvr 3 роки тому

    Thanks, it's hard because all the guides are pre-8.0.0. Thanks!

  • @WoopWoop614
    @WoopWoop614 2 роки тому +1

    been tryong for a while and I get the cheer jump cancel, not the jump before the cheer, any tips (i use gcc)

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  2 роки тому

      Make sure you basically don't let Nana touch the ground before the throw, if she's there for like a split second she'll re sync

  • @theregulararkandsonicfan5005
    @theregulararkandsonicfan5005 2 роки тому

    Imagine what he would do if he was online

  • @TheSquaredCube
    @TheSquaredCube 3 роки тому +1

    As much as I wanna learn this, everytime they desync nana just airdodges immediately because Im mashing grab, pummel, and jump too fast. No idea what to do or how to fix it, oh well.

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому +1

      Make sure you only do it twice, and if you still can't get it I recommend joining ic cord! Fantastic discord and community

    • @TheSquaredCube
      @TheSquaredCube 3 роки тому +2

      @@Imprez2564 didn't expect anyome much less you to answer since this video is 9 months old. Thanks! And great video by the way! Don't know how you don't have more subs

  • @5-4-s7q
    @5-4-s7q 6 місяців тому

    I’m having trouble with two things right now, nana doesn’t always go right that much so I don’t hit the foot stool, and when I do hit the footstool she will sometimes just airdodge normally and not directionally, am I doing something wrong?

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  6 місяців тому

      Hold forward to get the footstool! A lot of times she isn't close enough without holding forward. As for the second part, maybe you're letting go of the stick too fast? Try doing it at a slower speed and see

    • @5-4-s7q
      @5-4-s7q 6 місяців тому

      thank you so much1 @@Imprez2564

  • @therealsansishere15
    @therealsansishere15 3 місяці тому

    1:03 I can't do it someone plz help me

  • @nintendope8837
    @nintendope8837 3 роки тому +1

    Reset training messes me up cus I wanna do pro controller r grab into l pummel into ab smash..

  • @isaiahbaek8872
    @isaiahbaek8872 2 роки тому +1

    Everytime I try to spam X and ZR on my pro controller I just start doing nairs and it doesn't work. Does anyone have any pointers to help me out with this for pro controller?

    • @johannp8435
      @johannp8435 2 роки тому +2

      lol idk if this is helpful 3 months later but i press grab just a *tiny* bit before x. if i press them both at exactly the same time i nair, and then if i jump first then do grab, i airdodge. So yeah just a tiny tiny bit before u press jump press grab when you're 'pressing them both at the same time'. Also don't forget that this is for dash and not full run.

    • @lucawendel7644
      @lucawendel7644 2 роки тому

      @@johannp8435 thx for pointing the dash out.

  • @someoneiguess4960
    @someoneiguess4960 3 роки тому +1

    I'm a hero main, but I wanna widen my mains and this is so aggravating to do, any tips? Already tried x1 frame

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      It's probably a LOT faster than you think, and for a lot of people the easiest set of inputs is mashing grab and jump at the same time basically, twice (for jump CC at least)
      You want to make sure it's some form of grab, ______, and pummel VERY fast in succession

  • @splash39
    @splash39 3 роки тому +1

    Did this get patched or am I just not understanding the inputs?

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      Nope it still works! Timing is pretty fast.

  • @jolt5399
    @jolt5399 2 роки тому

    Can someone help me please, I am having trouble with getting the Cheer Cancel into Footstool. Nana does get in a position where it would seem a footstool would be possible but she does not footstool

  • @squareroot9423
    @squareroot9423 3 роки тому +1

    #CANCELCHEER

  • @livinlikelo_
    @livinlikelo_ 3 роки тому +1

    I can’t so forward throw fair no matter how hard I try any tips?

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      Is it a timing issue with the fair or are you just not getting cc?
      If it's timing, just know the fair can be buffered as needed. The timing really is something you have to feel out, but my guess is you aren't doing it fast enough, as that's typically the problem

    • @megatrollz5368
      @megatrollz5368 3 роки тому

      I had a problem with this too you have to make sure nana is done with her animation and right at the end of it hit attack and jump at the same time while holding forward

  • @theregulararkandsonicfan5005
    @theregulararkandsonicfan5005 2 роки тому

    Do I need to control you have to do it or can I use joy cons

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  2 роки тому

      You can use anything really

  • @spacraft4197
    @spacraft4197 2 роки тому +1

    I seem to be inputting it too slow is there anyway to get it down pat Consistently?

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  2 роки тому

      My best tip is to just press X and Z both very quickly out of a dash, reference the video for timing!

    • @spacraft4197
      @spacraft4197 2 роки тому

      @@Imprez2564 wow, thanks for tip and replying so quickly

  • @lucawendel7644
    @lucawendel7644 2 роки тому

    All of this works too if you are already desynced and regrab, right? Nana wont cheer anyway but im talking bout bthrow fair or dthrow footstool for example.

  • @lmESAM
    @lmESAM 2 роки тому

    0:38

  • @CandorZofain
    @CandorZofain 2 роки тому

    When I do Grab & A+B, Nana does do a forward smash, but the opponent doesn't get knocked out of my grasp. What am I doing wrong?

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  2 роки тому +1

      This usually means the fsmash is stale

  • @christophertung2453
    @christophertung2453 3 роки тому

    When I throw, nana does the cheer cancel but doesn’t double jump for the follow up f-air. What am I doing wrong?

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      Try delaying the timing, but still before she hits the ground. you have to input another jump to get that double jump

  • @Luis-mx2ws
    @Luis-mx2ws 2 роки тому

    I really understand everything and sometimes hit it but i dont know what im doing worng when im not hitting it :/ any tips for the timing on jcc

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah! You usually won't want to buffer it immediately, you want to wait a little bit for the follow up so whatever you do (probably fair) will connect properly.

  • @brucemeier8624
    @brucemeier8624 3 роки тому +1

    How?

  • @fegaogbevire982
    @fegaogbevire982 3 роки тому

    I CANT DO IT IDK WHY

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      Don't give up! It takes practice!

  • @TheGreatGatsbySSB
    @TheGreatGatsbySSB 3 роки тому +1

    Are you using default controls?

    • @TheGreatGatsbySSB
      @TheGreatGatsbySSB 3 роки тому

      and do you use Z for the pummel?

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      @@TheGreatGatsbySSB yes and yes you can, there's multiple ways of doing it as shown!

  • @rosephroestar4361
    @rosephroestar4361 3 роки тому

    Any tips on landing the back throw>fair? Nana always seems to jump to low when I try it.

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      Try holding out and make sure your second jump is a short hop aerial, not just a jump and then fair

    • @rosephroestar4361
      @rosephroestar4361 3 роки тому

      @@Imprez2564 Thanks for the quick reply, that was really fast! I'm still not getting it, though. Nana only does a very small double jump after the throw when I try. When you do it, your Nana does a way higher double jump. But I'm already up too late as it is, so I'll try again tomorrow hopefully.

  • @LuridLentil
    @LuridLentil 3 роки тому

    Wait so u pressed grab -> grab and jump and a -> jump? For the nana jump input.

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      Yeah check the part where I explain the controller inputs! I personally do
      Z+A twice quickly after dashing

  • @zaniem1077
    @zaniem1077 2 роки тому

    Anybody know how to do it on pro controller with NORMAL settings without changing any buttons or anything?

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  2 роки тому

      Works the same way, try Z+A method I mention

  • @dynaxfan
    @dynaxfan 3 роки тому

    #cheerisoverparty

  • @Succer
    @Succer 3 роки тому +2

    How exactly do you do seperate aerials like at 5:00? I do them accidentally sometimes.

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому +1

      Hitlag desync! It happens when you hit a synced aerial in the air, you can buffer two options.
      There I buffered a nair and then held forward so Nana did fair!

    • @bradwilliamson4749
      @bradwilliamson4749 2 роки тому

      @@Imprez2564 every time I try to hit an aerial and buffer for popo and do another for Nana, they seem to do the same aerial. Is there some system to make sure they do different aerials?

  • @Celobia
    @Celobia 3 роки тому

    i keep on getting the desync but i cant control nana after she jumps, any tips?

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому +1

      Make sure you aren't letting her touch the ground!

    • @Celobia
      @Celobia 3 роки тому

      @@Imprez2564 thanks for the tip, its just when shes in the air and i throw i cant really control where she goes or what move she does consistantly

  • @billybobpoptart2.056
    @billybobpoptart2.056 11 місяців тому

    You just killed me on fort

  • @HeckHammer
    @HeckHammer 3 роки тому

    I have ab smash on but I can’t get the fsmash. Any tips?

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      It's pretty fast, honestly start by doing dash grab and literally just mash AB and Z, FAST. Odds are you'll get the timing and then learn it from there. That one is the simplest

    • @HeckHammer
      @HeckHammer 3 роки тому

      Is the timing to do a spot dodge really strict? I keep getting down throw

  • @mikeyjvasquez
    @mikeyjvasquez 3 роки тому

    So how do you do it?

  • @loading...948
    @loading...948 3 роки тому

    Wtf whenever I do grab and jump at the same time a nair comes out? Can someone help me

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      Try one of the other input methods I covered first, like Grab X and A

  • @shonen3577
    @shonen3577 Рік тому

    Not working for me

    • @princedemo9291
      @princedemo9291 Рік тому

      Then do it better bruh! 💀💀💀

    • @shonen3577
      @shonen3577 Рік тому

      @@princedemo9291 nah the meat munching crazy😭

  • @PineappleTulips
    @PineappleTulips 3 роки тому

    So what are the inputs on a pro controller?

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому +1

      Same timing just use the respective buttons for jump/pummel!

    • @PineappleTulips
      @PineappleTulips 3 роки тому

      @@Imprez2564 thanks I’ll keep trying

  • @holdenlabrie5706
    @holdenlabrie5706 3 роки тому

    I’m having trouble understanding this guide.. I can’t put into words why either..

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      Uh ok try watching the inputs slower maybe!

    • @holdenlabrie5706
      @holdenlabrie5706 3 роки тому

      I get confused at 1:15...

    • @holdenlabrie5706
      @holdenlabrie5706 3 роки тому

      Like rapidly hit jump and grab twice doesn’t seem to cause the cheer cancel.. and I’m sure that’s where I’m misunderstanding

    • @SorellaKez
      @SorellaKez 3 роки тому +1

      @@holdenlabrie5706 You press z, and then IMMEDIATELY press z and y at the same time. The 2nd Z is for the pummel, and y will make Nana (hopefully) jump!

    • @holdenlabrie5706
      @holdenlabrie5706 3 роки тому

      Also sorry Imprez, I realize the wording isn’t exactly productive but I’m new to desyncing in general so it’s a little complex for me

  • @Queenishhh
    @Queenishhh 3 роки тому

    I still don’t get it :(

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      Remember, grab > option of choice > pummel REALLY FAST
      Hop in the ICs Discord for more help too!

    • @Queenishhh
      @Queenishhh 3 роки тому

      After 4 weeks of procrastination I actually did it :)

  • @lancejohnsonjr.8405
    @lancejohnsonjr.8405 3 роки тому

    Can someone pls use a pro controller to show inputs for the 75% people that don't use gamecube😭

    • @Imprez2564
      @Imprez2564  3 роки тому

      It's exactly the same timing and inputs, just use the respective buttons on a pro controller

    • @lancejohnsonjr.8405
      @lancejohnsonjr.8405 3 роки тому

      @@Imprez2564 true it is just respective buttons on the other controller but some buttons that are right next to your finger that you can just slide to with your finger you have to reach across your controller to get or you have to put your thumb a little farther to the left than usual which makes a lot of difference when you're trying to do a combo like this