I would have thought that after a warning from that doctor about the state of your liver you would just call it a day. I had to after a lifetime of drinking.
I've seen 'Drinkers Like Me' several times in recent years as I continue my journey towards eliminating alcohol from my life. I guess, unlike Adrian, I've got plenty of drinking capacity left in me. I didn't really start drinking at all until I was in my 40s (spent my life up to then too dedicated to fitness and training for distance running, always ate well, always maintained healthy weight and blood pressure, etc). Things started going up a bit from then on. But even at my worst time, I've never got much higher than 80 units a week (most per day was a bottle of scotch), have never had any serious side effects, and have had prolonged periods (three months last year) when I haven't touched a drop. Even now, having started drinking again, I'll often go several days without alcohol. But I do have a 'capacity' for it in other ways - and when I'm on a roll with it, I can drink until I pass out. And there is alcoholism in my family, on the male side. I still eat well and healthily, I'm still a healthy weight, I still have normal blood pressure, and I still keep physically fit with cycling and walking. But I know that drinkers can always kid themselves with the old 'I'm nothing like that' line. I'm 65 now, so another factor against me is the natural ageing and lowering of function of organs like the liver and kidneys. I've often thought about having a fibroscan to see what degree of damage there is. Bottom line... I know that alcohol has the capacity, with me, to do far more harm than good. So it's great to see interviews like this to get some 'sober' reminders, and prods towards quitting again. Thanks so much for this. (PS Interesting to also have seen a documentary recently where Richard Burton said that his 'serious' daily drinking only started when he opened the third bottle of spirits!)
Listening to and looking at Adrian in the documentary he sounds and looks ill. I write as someone who, though in my early 70s gave up drinking having been a regular drinker since the age of 14. I firmly believe that regular drinkers, as I was, are alcoholic, though most avoid being the caricature drunk. I intend to stick with my new habit of sobriety having been sober for 16 months. The thought of a hangover or another uncontrolled drinking session revolts me; I have been completely captivated by the benefits of sobriety. Good luck to all others seeking the same goal.
What a mess! Now I understand why he writes his inane articles in "The Guardian" but what I don't understand is how/why anyone would pay him for that garbage. Get a grip man.
You are kidding yourselves on guys, using every excuse in the book. You're still drinking too much. How you can drink at all Adrian after the liver damage was shown to you is because you have an alcohol problem.
Yes he drinks too much given the Gov guidelines are 15 units max per week and he admits to drinking around 20 units a week. Given that he's gone down from 100 units which is problematic, can we argue that 20 units/ week is not problematic given the fact that he can stop at one drink when he wants to??
He's in denial even during this interview. So was I your alcoholic brain always kids you on it's "not that bad". I got to AA and it's stopped my 30+ year drink problem. Anyone that even thinks they have an issue go to AA it will soon confirm if you are an alcoholic and it will give you the tools to deal with it. 7 months clean here.
That’s the problem the pious binary approach stops people moderating. He has made a massive change in his lifestyle. Sorry to disappoint as a guy who has been a CIO of an insurance co you can’t out run or abstain your genetic dna away. Your health and longevity is much more complex than you think
@@drivelifewellalltogetheror2081 This was why Adrian's documentary's and interviews are so good - he's showing people there is an alternative to the all or nothing approach. Any reduction in drinking is a reduction in harm. Better to cut your consumption down by 25% than do nothing!
Spain says 35 units a week. What do their scientists go on? Are we doing a racist ,well they are Spanish! We have British ,better scientists so we must be right. What data do we use? 5 a day is made up with no scientific basis.
There’s governments that say smoking doesn’t damage one’s health, there’s governments that say women are property… what’s your point? What else should we ditch because Spain does or doesn’t do it? Where do you think the research in this country comes from? That there’s some conspiracy to stop people drinking? Not likely considering how much the Portman group and alcohol industry as a whole is able to influence government policy.
There's something wrong with 15 units a week when it's the same for men and women. Men can handle more than women, so they probably just slapped a low number on to try and get people to cut down. People should cut down if they're drinking too much, but the numbers from the government advisory lack credibility.
Thanks for having this conversation.
I could listen to Adrian Charles on this subject for days. I’ve also read his book which is very interesting.
I would have thought that after a warning from that doctor about the state of your liver you would just call it a day. I had to after a lifetime of drinking.
I've seen 'Drinkers Like Me' several times in recent years as I continue my journey towards eliminating alcohol from my life. I guess, unlike Adrian, I've got plenty of drinking capacity left in me. I didn't really start drinking at all until I was in my 40s (spent my life up to then too dedicated to fitness and training for distance running, always ate well, always maintained healthy weight and blood pressure, etc). Things started going up a bit from then on. But even at my worst time, I've never got much higher than 80 units a week (most per day was a bottle of scotch), have never had any serious side effects, and have had prolonged periods (three months last year) when I haven't touched a drop. Even now, having started drinking again, I'll often go several days without alcohol. But I do have a 'capacity' for it in other ways - and when I'm on a roll with it, I can drink until I pass out. And there is alcoholism in my family, on the male side. I still eat well and healthily, I'm still a healthy weight, I still have normal blood pressure, and I still keep physically fit with cycling and walking. But I know that drinkers can always kid themselves with the old 'I'm nothing like that' line. I'm 65 now, so another factor against me is the natural ageing and lowering of function of organs like the liver and kidneys. I've often thought about having a fibroscan to see what degree of damage there is. Bottom line... I know that alcohol has the capacity, with me, to do far more harm than good. So it's great to see interviews like this to get some 'sober' reminders, and prods towards quitting again. Thanks so much for this. (PS Interesting to also have seen a documentary recently where Richard Burton said that his 'serious' daily drinking only started when he opened the third bottle of spirits!)
Adrian fair play to you you are honest enjoy your life
Listening to and looking at Adrian in the documentary he sounds and looks ill. I write as someone who, though in my early 70s gave up drinking having been a regular drinker since the age of 14. I firmly believe that regular drinkers, as I was, are alcoholic, though most avoid being the caricature drunk. I intend to stick with my new habit of sobriety having been sober for 16 months. The thought of a hangover or another uncontrolled drinking session revolts me; I have been completely captivated by the benefits of sobriety. Good luck to all others seeking the same goal.
Great interview, but way too short.
Good video!!!
If Chiles is a "legend", I'm the Pope. Not the smartest tool in the box. The heavy drinking hardly helps.
What a mess! Now I understand why he writes his inane articles in "The Guardian" but what I don't understand is how/why anyone would pay him for that garbage. Get a grip man.
this might just be what i need to see to stop.
You are kidding yourselves on guys, using every excuse in the book. You're still drinking too much. How you can drink at all Adrian after the liver damage was shown to you is because you have an alcohol problem.
Yes he drinks too much given the Gov guidelines are 15 units max per week and he admits to drinking around 20 units a week. Given that he's gone down from 100 units which is problematic, can we argue that 20 units/ week is not problematic given the fact that he can stop at one drink when he wants to??
@robertbrown6531 shut up ya clown.
He's in denial even during this interview. So was I your alcoholic brain always kids you on it's "not that bad". I got to AA and it's stopped my 30+ year drink problem. Anyone that even thinks they have an issue go to AA it will soon confirm if you are an alcoholic and it will give you the tools to deal with it. 7 months clean here.
That’s the problem the pious binary approach stops people moderating. He has made a massive change in his lifestyle. Sorry to disappoint as a guy who has been a CIO of an insurance co you can’t out run or abstain your genetic dna away. Your health and longevity is much more complex than you think
@@drivelifewellalltogetheror2081 This was why Adrian's documentary's and interviews are so good - he's showing people there is an alternative to the all or nothing approach. Any reduction in drinking is a reduction in harm. Better to cut your consumption down by 25% than do nothing!
Spain says 35 units a week.
What do their scientists go on?
Are we doing a racist ,well they are Spanish! We have British ,better scientists so we must be right.
What data do we use? 5 a day is made up with no scientific basis.
There’s governments that say smoking doesn’t damage one’s health, there’s governments that say women are property… what’s your point? What else should we ditch because Spain does or doesn’t do it?
Where do you think the research in this country comes from? That there’s some conspiracy to stop people drinking? Not likely considering how much the Portman group and alcohol industry as a whole is able to influence government policy.
There's something wrong with 15 units a week when it's the same for men and women. Men can handle more than women, so they probably just slapped a low number on to try and get people to cut down. People should cut down if they're drinking too much, but the numbers from the government advisory lack credibility.
Adrian is drunk......obviously.
No one cares