Informative ride on North Jersey Coast Line NY-Bay Head on NJT 3243/4243 11/9/22
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- Gorgeous day for a scenic ride on the NJT North Jersey Coast Line using #3243 NY to Long Branch and #4243 Long Branch to Bay Head. Loads of waterways crossed and gorgeous towns seen along the NJCL. Enjoy the ride.
I lived in Belmar and Newark many years ago. I moved to Florida in 2015, but I just got promoted at work and they're shipping me back to NYC! I've been watching walking and train videos in anticipation of coming back home!
The line you saw from the bridge at 1:14:09 is Naval Weapons Station Earl railroad to the terminal close to Keensburg.
Those tracks you saw south of Middletown below you were the tracks used by Earle Naval weapons station. They move equipment between their base in Colts Neck to their port in Port Monmouth. Also, that turnout you saw south of Matawan was also an old line that ran to Atlantic Highlands, but it was ended as part of the Aldene plan. Thanks again for coming down the show was great!
Just dove past the NWS Earle gate on Route 36.
Thank you for this. I have lived in Monmouth County for most of my life and have ridden this route hundreds of times but still learned something new. I remember picking my father up at Red Bank in the late 60’s before the platform was raised and still lined with cobblestones and waiting to see if the engine would be a Pennsylvania or Jersey Central. He would joke that the cars were so old that they still had the bullet holes from when Jesse James robbed the trains. I also remember in the summer time in the early 70’s, being able to open the windows in the now - or then - Penn Central cars. I know this is all just nostalgia but a good
memory nonetheless.
Two interesting projects that - I feel - are largely glossed over by the community is the Perth Amboy station upgrades and the new Raritan River Bridge. The construction at Perth Amboy is to create level platforms for wheelchair accessibility. Meanwhile, if you looked out the westward windows on the Raritan River Bridge, a new bridge is being constructed to replace the old and damaged one still in operation. Span and supports for the bridge are already installed, especially at the time of this video. It'll be a lift bridge once it's completed.
,,,,,awesome.....no other living individual knows more tri state rail history than you,,,,,,,you travel for the freedom and joy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you are not an armchair rail historian,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i hope to meet you someday soon at princeton junction........
,,,,at the end of a fine trip,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,all is beyond joy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the beauty of the coast line.....................thanks again.................
@1:01:49 Surprised you didn't mention that those tracks went through Keyport and down to Atlantic Highlands. Which is now the henry hudson trail. The bridge for the old ROW still crosses the parkway. Yes it was a convenient turnout for storage at the end of Catenary.
North Jersey Coast, my favorite NJ Transit Rail line. Lovely views.
37:30 I believe it’s the Conrail Port Reading Secondary which connects to the Lehigh Line at Bound Brook
An add on to my earlier comment , the Philadelphia and Long Branch RR division of the PRR ran from 1881 until 1946. By way of Camden , Mount Holly, Pemberton, Whiting, Tom's River, Island Heights, Seaside Park, and Bayhead Junction.
The eb Branch out of Aberdeen That line ran to the Earle ammo pier and ended at Atlantic Highlands not sure if itz's in service
I think you mistyped the train #? It’s supposed to be 4343 not 4243.
My parents built small retirement home in Point Pleasant Borough in 1970 about a mile from the Bay Head station. I lived with them their for the first year and commuted on that line for a year and a half. I took a a Pennsy train to Newark in the morning, riding in an old New Haven Lounge car. stopped at South Amboy every morning to,switch to a GG1. Going home I took a CNJ Train with old commuter coaches. Thanks for the memories!
You should certainly check out the Lehigh Line again.
Beautiful ride and lots of great info. Been decades since we took Grandma to Asbury Park. But, wow, so many flat wheels!!! Wow.
Waiting to see if you mention the old Wannamassa Station in old Asbury Park! I used to go there to watch the Pennsy and CNJ trains with my Father!
Didn’t know about it
Before 1946, the Seaside Park trestle fire,PRR called it their back door. You could go all the way to Camden.
This particular train line does not exactly have the best track record, pun intended, based both upon news reports of late as well as on my personal experience. There are frequent delays, breakdowns, sugnal problems, and general system failures leading to frequent delays and much frustration. Of course, you will sometimes get lucky and have a normal ride.
Cool Elizabth, NJ Train Station that's where my moms live near the station and there rebuilding the station it looking pretty nice at Elizabeth Station...
On the diesel shuttle service you took, why did those cars rattle so much (you even said it sounded like a steam locomotive pulling the train)? I never understood what that sound was on any train I’ve seen.
Flat wheels likely
WoW. I was born in South Amboy the summer of 76. Grew up watching the locomotive changes. My grandfather operated the manual gates before retirement
@21:55 at the interlocking in 1969 I walked on those tracks right by the triangular park. There were no fences. as a 14 year old and heard the switches move. My parents were two blocks away on Rosehill place cleaning up my late grandmas house for sale.
When we lived in point pleasant many years ago,my dad made that commute to new york for a couple of years.He hated it
Rugged commute
The branch just south of Aberdeen Station going to the east (1:01:50) is the old Central Railroad of New Jersey Seashore Branch line. It ran to Atlantic Highlands until 1966. Abandoned by Conrail in 1983. It is now a Monmouth County Rail Trail.
Absolutely correct. Also, unlike most rails to trails, NJ Transit has retained the rights and could, conceivably, run new light rail or regular rail along this area.
My grandfather worked in one of the industries Hazlet, they were one of the last customers to get cars
With the exception of my time away at school, I have always lived within earshot of the NJCL. From fifth grade through high school, I lived a half block away from the tracks in Elberon. My friends and I would walk down to the candy store across from the station, and then wait for the trains to squash our pennies on the easily accessible tracks. What did we know about danger?
You have passed my apartment complex
Those tracks after Middletown station is the Naval Weapons station Earle’s own railroad. It goes from the base inland in Colts Neck/Holmdel to the pier out in Raritan Bay.
you certainly have more patience than I do! I could never ride a local like this making every single stop to Bay Head. In fact, I usually go out of my way to take express trains even if the total trip time takes a little longer (an example would be taking Carolinian 79 to DC instead of Regional 183 since I'd take the same train into the city to catch either of them, or taking a Port Jervis express to Suffern and U-turning to Ramsey so I don't have to sit through all the stops of a local)
Well considering the limited amount of daylight there is nowadays only way I could film this in good light during the day is to ride a local
Wait, you take a longer trip just to avoid....taking a longer trip? I don't get it.
Count Basie was from Redbank.
The "junction" at Bay Head Junction referred to its point as a junction with a rail line that used to run to Seaside. Remnants of the right-of-way can be found. But most of it has been taken by the present State Highway 35.
Linden was also the site of a World War II GM aircraft plant that build Grumman Wildcats and Avengers! And Red Bank hosted the Gold Cup hydroplane race on three occasions; on the last, in 1941, the winning driver was Zalmon Simmons, Jr., the heir to the bedding fortune!
Does the Lionel Richie cameo make this a Lionel train?
I’ll show myself out, thanks.
(Edit: On a less ridiculous note, the Red Bank station looks like a copy/paste of the ex-CNJ station at Fanwood, and the next one at Little Silver looks a bit like Netherwood and Westfield, on either side of Fanwood on the RVL. I guess the CNJ liked those station designs, and who could blame them?)
Thank you for sharing this informative video. It reminds me of my teenager years when UA-cam was a brand-new thing & I would watch the music video to “Star Guitar” by The Chemical Brothers, dir. by Michael Gondry.
A picture in Trains Magazine shows the E-:L Capitan with ex Santa Fe Coaches too
When I was a little kid, we sometime spent weekends at the old Bradley Beach Hotel (which later burned down). I once walked the boardwalk all the way to the outskirts of Asbury Park. It was a great place to spend a summer weekend!
I'd never seen a video of that line. Thanks for all the interesting commentary of the "good old days". But that car you were riding on 4243 sounded like it had a square wheel, and someone kept leaving the car door open!
Thanks for the video. I grew up near South Amboy where the GG1 trains would transfer from Diesel engines to electric engines for the trip north to NY Penn Station. I also took many trips from South Amboy to Penn Station to see Ranger hockey games at Madison Square Garden in the 1970’s & 1980’s. I appreciate all of the train videos you take in the NY area,
Fascinating ride. I've learned so much from this and your other videos. It's all new to me (here in France). Out of interest I watched this one right after watching "Full Journey on the Elizabeth Line from Reading to Abbey Wood" done by a different producer. There are some interesting similarities, like both routes go under main cities (NY & London) and both call almost all stations, though the English one isn't intended as an end-to-end service, like from Reading you'd use a non-stop train to Paddington and then the Elizabeth Line fron there. Both use the same overhead power system. One difference is the English one uses an old but upgraded main line that's far busier than anything in the US. But in general I think it shows what New York could have with more investment in it's railways. Things like 90mph between stops just 4 miles apart. That would cut the journey time in half and greatly increase revenue. The only down side is you'd lost those old loco-hauled trains which (I admit) are more fun for us rail enthusiasts.
many memories for me of the separation of the CRR of NJ from the PA.railroad between Perth Amboy and Woodbridge.....the next station north of Perth Amboy on the CRR of NJ was BARBER....and long after the end of passenger service(in the 60's) my Dads employer(EW Saybolt....inspectors of petroleum) had there Perth Amboy regional offices there....station building was torn down in the late 80's but I have many rich recollections of time with Dad at his work location......nothing compares to railroad history THANKS
Occupying your time productively like I do sir it makes the day goes by!
Thanks for the ride home,I rode this train most of my working life through the good and really bad times! Close to 50 years riding theCNJ and Penn trains even theWall Street special, those were the days? Pity the Service and On Time performance only dropped over the years.Sadly , much the same scenery north of theRaritan , rundown and derelict industry that once supported life along this line. Oh well, at least I can Remember the sound of a Steam Whistle herein Arizona !
Loop was after 1946.
though now retired and living in central PA.... I grew up near the Woodbridge NJ rail station(Sewaren NJ) and used it many times.....thanks for the memories
Very good thank you
Also thanks for putting the names of the creeks. You taught me a lot.
After the train show on Saturday I plan on taking my little one on this line into NYC. We're going to Uber over to Asbury Park and hop the train from there.
I wish Tad's steaks was still open by Penn Station (or even the one in Times Square) so I can show him where I used to eat when I came into NYC
i see you were in the head car for this one. this is a ride i really wanna take, I'd even wanna take it on a Bay Head thru service
And then on Monday before Thanksgiving I likely will take either this same train or 3235 (where of course I’ll transfer at Long Branch for either Bay Head Shuttles 4335 or 4343) to this time Manasquan, where I start a Virtual Half Marathon for a race event held Black Friday in-person at a park in Commerce Township, Michigan. The virtual half marathon will essentially be a tour of some of the NJCL beaches in the northbound direction, and ending at Allenhurst station. Note that 3235 emulates the station stop pattern for 3243.
When the k4's ran, there weren't so many houses.
How do you get these edited and posted so damn fast??? :)
Practice!!
As a child years ago I used to ride the PRR from Newark to Sea Girt to visit my grandparents. Before I was old enough to ride the train unaccompanied I was still allowed to walk unescorted to the train station to watch PRR & CNJ trains. I even recall the K-4s in their final days.
Fun and beautiful trip! Haven't been to Bay Head since the 1950s visiting friends often who had a cottage near the beach. Great waves for bodysurfing. No surfboards around in those days. It was a one stoplight town then. Maybe still is...pretty small town...blink your eyes and you miss it driving through. There was a place called Dale's Yacht Basin on the bay side that sold and serviced the classic wooden Chris Craft speedboats of that era that we'd hang out at for hours at a time admiring. Never took the train, but used to take the Cape Codder from New York to Woods Hole MA and then the old steamers to Nantucket before the wealthy elite took over the place.
Nice video! Right around 1:02, after passing the Aberdeen/Matawan station, on the right side was the start of the old branch line to Freehold. They've been thinking of reactivating the line for years, but it's just a bike trail now, part of the Henry Hudson trail system in that area of NJ.
Interesting operation. I've never ridden this line. Nice stations. Nice neighborhoods. Thanks Tim😀💚
Point Pleasant Beach Station is nice, but I didn't see the beach.
The Sea Girt station you were looking for still exists but now houses the town library. Nicely restored many years ago.
Love your videos you pay attention to everything,
I love train Horns,
Brother Ron
Train nerd
Thank you for sharing the images. 👍
Hey. I wanna know. How was the connection in long branch. Does the connecting train wait for the train (from New York) or does it go if it’s past the scheduled time?
It usually waits because the service is so infrequent
@@3985uprrok thank you
Count Basie was born in Red Bank.
Why don't they have thru trains all the way to the end anymore/
They only have them on weekdays
Nice
tracks between middletown and red bank are for earle naval base military use
1:27:47 - I am disappointed here, that I do not see video of walking off this train, across the platform, to the next train, and views of the train you rode from New York City.
Was in a hurry
2:03:03 - What are these passenger cars called? Some have a center-door. When were they built? ... ~1980?
Comet 4. In the 80’s
@@3985uprr Comet 4’s appeared in 1996 but the body shells are fairly similar to the Comet 3’s which were a few years older. Aside from the fatter black stripe and the door-less cabs on the cab cars, they looked about the same from the outside. Inside the 4’s were distinguished by their sort of beachy pastel interiors which seemed suited to their early assignments on the coast line. In the early 2000s NJT sent the Comet 2’s out to be refurbished and they came back with a livery and interior similar to the 4’s, minus the center doors, and now they generally run in mixed consists.
@@de-fault_de-fault What they all have in common, dirty windows 😀😀. I rode Comet 1’s when they were brand new with their S3Lhorns.
@@3985uprr correct… apparently the issue is similar to what happens to some cars’ headlights, where the dirt has reacted with UV light and made a permanent haze on the lexan. NJT recently awarded a contract to straight up replace the windows on the multi levels, so I look forward to being able to see on my commute…eventually.
Awesome video @1:58:40 is my favorite boat that I always have gone fishing on The Queen Mary in Point Pleasant for anyone who likes Stripers and Bluefish that is the best boat to go fishing on.
I took this same train on Friday August 26 when I travelled to Belmar that afternoon! (boy, the beach got a dose of rain and strong thunderstorms that afternoon that I had to take shelter in a pizza place near the boardwalk)