'37 Massey Harris Challenger First Run in 44 Years Plus Overview

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  • @Cletrac305
    @Cletrac305 2 роки тому

    Great to see! I still have the 1952 MH 44 my grandpa bought in 1958, it still has the same "HOOD" tires on it. It has duals, wide front, power steering, a front mounted buzz saw and an M&W "high altitide" overbore kit and a larger carb venturi dad built. it had an M&W gear reduction starter, and a series parallel switch and 2 6v batteries. Grandpa dropped a tree over it shortly after he got it and broke off the exhaust pipe in the manifold. So he just put a 5in pipe over the outside of the manifold. Dad installed an exhaust "whistle" apparatus his friend had in high school that goes into a tapped hole on the front runner that was supposed to increase power. I became disabled with a non cancerous brain tumor and dad got brain cancer 2 yrs later and went into a nursing home and passed away in 2020. I told everyone that if i had to sell everything i would live under that 44! Praise god, my disability allowed me to keep everything including the 1952 MH55 Diesel that was the first tractor we restored together when i was 7. They both came with me when i moved 220 mi along with my MF 1155. All for 1.25 acres! I had a 1937 farmall F20 that was also kerosene. But nothing compares to a Massey Harris for engineering, period! (Hypoid gears constant mesh tranny in 55 and timken roller instead of ball bearings throughout among many others) i remember seeing many 44 and 55 based tractors with multiple blown v8s in the NTPA. We were regularly using the 44 in the field on 80 acres and for sawing two years ago, i still saw with it, cocky guys with new chainsaws learn a quick lesson! Many people try to compare the 44 to a farmall M, actually an MH33 was bigger than a standard M and a good 44 had the hp of a W-9. Doesn't matter how bad things get, when i take that 44 for a drive it all goes away, they sound like nothing else! You cant even hear it idle with that 5in straight pipe, take off at idle in road gear and count the fan blades go around!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  2 роки тому

      Well Daniel, I can say you've certainly had a go of it with the brain tumors of your Dad and your own. Whew !! I am glad you have survived. You know...guys that have no experiences with the 44's just don't understand what we do with out even speaking. There is no better, more versatile and user friendly tractor than the 44. The sound with a straight pipe is like no other !! The reason for the '44' in Tractorman44 is that tractor. I am glad to hear you were able to take with you the ones you did...doesn't matter if its 1 1/4 acres, a lot in town or 500 acres....just wanting to keep the tractors you grew up with is justification enough. 55's are as plentiful as hen's teeth over here. In 40 years I've only seen one for sale within 50 miles of here....and I've got a cousin that's got one under a collapsed shed just rotting down. I use the buzz saws multiple times every winter. Some on 3 point and one pinned to the ground and powered with the little Massey 30 and the flat belt. I love them. Thanks for sharing so much of your story Daniel....I do appreciate it.

  • @bubbagump4686
    @bubbagump4686 4 роки тому

    LOL , G.P. just can't appreciate the A/C in this model....... in January ...... LOL
    That was one of the coolest videos I have seen....... don't get out much.........
    Love them old tractors..............
    Why is it ........... we love old things when they're gone , but cry about them being old when there here ???????????
    .............. Thanks TM44 , Ad NO hard feelings G.P. ........ LOVE YOU ALL !
    .............. Bee safe , bee kind and Cheers .

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому +1

      Hot Doggies Bubba G...can't you see GP blading his driveway with 12'' of snow with this fancy machine ??!! LOL. I hope he enjoys our humor..... Thank you so much for the coolest of comments too my man !! Take care and stay tuned in for more with the Splitter Wars 2.0 on October 10th.

  • @tractortalkwithgary1271
    @tractortalkwithgary1271 4 роки тому

    It is fun to work on these old girls.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому +1

      Hahahahaha...gotta agree Gary. Gotta agree.....

  • @jschulteboy
    @jschulteboy 4 роки тому

    Cool video

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому +1

      I thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. I do like the old thing.

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes6507 4 роки тому

    Now if that was a Fairbanks Morse,..or a Wico magneto, I could follow along with it's build easily,..: 0 .....what a great old engine/ tractor,..thanks for this.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому +1

      I came clean in the video and admitted that magneto's are not my forte. My much older brother though has torn into them many times over the years and has a basket full of good, bad and ugly ones in the back of the shop. There's a Webster on one of my flywheel engines that has weak or no spark. I've actually got another dead one on an old '40's
      WC Allis Chalmers Motor Patrol right now. This is the first time its failed to start in the twenty years I've had it so I think it's probably just got a little corrosion on the points. And man, do I need to grade the driveway !! Glad you enjoyed it Reg...and thanks for watching sir.

  • @tractortalkwithgary1271
    @tractortalkwithgary1271 4 роки тому

    Back in the day, those old boys could understand and operate their equipment as if they were the ones that built the equipment ent. My grandfather built most all of the buildings on this farm. He was a pretty good carpenter, plumber, welder, and mechanic. He overhauled my 1940 9N Ford and only made one mistake. He lined up all the ends of the piston rings in a straight vertical line. Figured out pretty quickly what he had done and tore it down again and redid it. That's what you get when you let the grand kids help with overhauling engines.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому +2

      LOL !! Good story about your grandfather. I started helping my uncle Chippo tear down tractor and equipment engines before I was ten. His eyesight was so bad he couldn't even see the valve keepers. I'd remove the keepers as he would depress the springs with the depressor, help him lap the valves in the seats with the suction cup tool with the wooden handle for spinning between your palms. Then when all done, I'd reinstall the valve keepers for him and do the first round of head torquing under his direction. I wasn't strong enough for the second and third torque settings. Yep...rainy days in the blacksmith shop or on the sawmill were my favorite days.

    • @tractortalkwithgary1271
      @tractortalkwithgary1271 4 роки тому

      @@tractorman4461 Yep, the good old days. The days when you through nothing away and fixed everything and the neighbors drove Studebakers.

    • @mikeadams2339
      @mikeadams2339 4 роки тому

      Wendell. Got many sawmill storys?

  • @peterkober6758
    @peterkober6758 4 роки тому +3

    44 and brother this was fun to watch I remember when they were used in the farms
    God Bless All
    PaK

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому

      Yeah buddy...we had an old dead Model 25, two 44's, a 101 Super and a 101 Junior, all Massey Harris's. I cut my teeth steering the 101 Junior between the bales of hay at 5 or 6 years old while the big guys loaded and stacked the hay wagon. To stop I'd have to slide way off the left side of the seat and push the clutch with all my might. On the hillsides, I'd have to snake down and turn off the key and coast to a stop. LOL. Good memories Peter, and I am glad to hear you enjoyed it sir.

  • @daveyjoweaver5183
    @daveyjoweaver5183 4 роки тому

    What a Wonderful old tractor Tractorman44 Friend and nice to meet your much older brother too! That old engine is Lovely to hear too! Not bad at all for sitting all those years. I keep passing this old Allis Chalmers, a little feller, has a mower on the bottom and I keep meaning to stop and ask about price. This place works on farm machinery and tractors. There was one like it down another road close by and it's all restored, new paint and decals and all. Now that would be a fun project! I will ask about it, take some pics and send them to you. I keep forgetting to send you some pics of my Dad's 37 Buick Special my sister now has in her garage. Now wouldn't it be nice have that old tractor with a 37 matching car? I'm also assuming there is a valve cover for that old beast? I'm mean the tractor not you or your much older brother. Of course a valve cover in our old ages might be a good thing, eh? I keep forgetting to mention and finally am, that this iPad comes up with some very weird words, sometimes not related to the topic. I think it's a spell check from another star system somewhere far far away! I recon that's it except for a HUGE Thanks to you and your much older brother with the lovely old tractor! Do you guys suffer from "Tractor Envy" ? You could set up the 44 Museum along the road and make a few extra bucks! And how's Stanely by the way? Well I recon you figured out by now that this here is DaveyJO tipping my way through your video held in your direction? Well it ain't! Just kidding! Now it's time I tip another your way in honor of that old beauty,,,,,,no not you this time, the tractor! I'm outta here for the JO pot so many many blessings to You and All your Family from Pa. And a question, when we get together in person, how many months and gallons of JO do you recon our conversation will require? More than two or three seasons? DaveyJO

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому +1

      Hahahahaha....always a pleasure DaveyJO. Always a pleasure !! If you lived closer, heck I have an old Allis Chalmers C I'd be more than tempted to give you just to get it away from my pretty red (rusty) tractors !! Now that I think of it there's two 'bow-axle' b's, two C's and a CA plus an old WC Motor Patrol sitting here by the shed !! Aw heck there's another C I got hid inside the shed all tore apart. I put all new gears and bearings in the transmission and the motor is ready to tear down for rebuild. I even sand blasted and primered the rear end getting ready to do it up right !! Then I got busy with other stuff. And its in my way too !! Maybe this winter I can get back on that one......
      Ol Stan is doing great !! I talk to him every few weeks. I went out there the other day and put him a new fan belt on his 8N and got him fired up and ready for bush hogging. Hey man, take care old buddy and we'll be soaking a coffee bean or three one of these days for sure !!

  • @gatorsworld
    @gatorsworld 4 роки тому

    What a beauty!!!! This was the days when things didn't have to look good for the tourist but they just ran and did some work.....I really enjoyed this one....memories of the past and rarely seen....bring on the splitter wars second addition......CHEERS

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому

      LOLOL... Well dang Gator, I missed yours as well as several others notification. Thanks for the comment and am glad you got some enjoyment out of this old gal. Splittter Wars 2.0 has come and gone and we really had fun with it !!

  • @RCAFpolarexpress
    @RCAFpolarexpress 4 роки тому +2

    In the summer 1976 was the Summer Olympics in Montreal Qc Canada !!! Great fun comments about GP !!! In your written text you mention that you skip some parts,,, You are problably the only one doing these types of videos Sir, so next time let them inside !!! Yes I'm diehard fan of Massey's and I'm trying honestly to change your mind to tell as much as possible all the info that you have store in your great memories of yours !!! Nice to see that you have a great family !!! Were di you cut or skize your right thumb ? Great hand crinque !!! Keep up the good work to have a great tractor for the splitter war 👍 That engine work very good !!! Great video Sir and luve that old oil filter !!! Have a great week Sir Cheers !!!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому +1

      Good morning mon ami. I get a bit long winded at times and some of the rough videos start out over two hours long so I HAVE got to cut a ton of stuff out. LOL. Its a curse I tell you...a curse !! You are the second best diehard Massey fan....right behind ME !! Form years of contaminating my fingers with refrigerant oils and being frozen by refrigerant itself, my fingers and thumbs sometime just crack really deep for no reason. That's what the deal is MOST of the times if you see one or more bandaged up. I have to pack high glycerin content salve into the cracks to soften them back up. Sorry it took so long to reply Dave, but I just saw your comment this morning. )-:

    • @RCAFpolarexpress
      @RCAFpolarexpress 4 роки тому +1

      @@tractorman4461 🤣👍😉 No problem Sir, you are the most busiest retired person that I know of. So I know that you will answer my comments when time comes LOl Cheers !!!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому +1

      @@RCAFpolarexpress hahahahaha...always the gentleman aren't you Dave. I'd be a whole lot busier if I wasn't so darn lazy though !! Being retired and all I'm finally getting used to sleeping in until 5:30.

    • @RCAFpolarexpress
      @RCAFpolarexpress 4 роки тому +1

      @@tractorman4461 🤣👍 Yes it is impended in our sleep pattern for sure !!! Cheers !!!

  • @WildBill1122
    @WildBill1122 4 роки тому +1

    That is one cool old tractor! Thanks for sharing it with us.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому

      Thanks Wild Bill. That is the first time I ever got to drive that particular tractor. It's a hoot with the hand clutch and all. Glad to hear you liked it man. Take care and happy splitting !!

  • @44place85
    @44place85 4 роки тому +1

    Nice can't wait to hear it on the splitter

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому

      Hot doggies, me too !! It'll be a cake walk with the 260 cubic inches pretty much sliding right along. His second generation pto driven wood splitter is really smooth too. Thanks for taking a looksee at the old tractor spitting oil everywhere !! EPA...?? Who the heck are they??!! LOL.

  • @DIYMyWay
    @DIYMyWay 4 роки тому

    Hi Wendell! Wow! Another ancient tractor resurrected after 44 years! Amazing! It was a pleasure meeting your “much older” brother. Looking forward to seeing y’all put it to work. Thanks for sharing!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому +1

      I'd asked him if he wanted to talk a bit but he said that I'm better at spreading 'hot air'.... He IS a talker though. Never meets a stranger. He actually started on it last year by cleaning and sealing the gas tank and installing a new sediment bowl. That was waaaaay before we even considered using it as the power unit for Splitter Wars 2.0.

  • @OurGreeneAcres
    @OurGreeneAcres 4 роки тому

    Hey Wendell neat old tractor glad to see y’all got it back running. Looking forward to seeing it in Splitter Wars. You get the oldest tractor award and I will have the shiniest at least it is dirty this time. Can’t wait going to be a fun time take care brother.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому +1

      Aw man... I missed FOUR comments Ben, and yours was one of them. We all DID have fun with the Splitter Wars didn't we...!! My Much Older Brother really enjoyed the prep work as well as participating in the video. Take Care ol' buddy.

  • @1lilfarm
    @1lilfarm 4 роки тому

    Very cool video!! Love your brother's carb adjustment tool! How many oil freckles did you have on your face after that ride?!?! LOL 😊😊😊

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  3 роки тому +1

      He is a man of many talents that's for sure !! Thanks for stopping in. Yeah, she splattered me more than a little.

  • @tractortalkwithgary1271
    @tractortalkwithgary1271 4 роки тому

    My 9N takes H12 Champion spark plugs and I haven't been able to find them anywhere other than on line. Guess that will be the direction that I will be going.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому +1

      These old fellow here take a 7/8 wrench and the thread size is darn big too !! Do you remember the old, old plugs that you'd unscrew and replace a cracked or broken porcelain or electrode ?? I've got a coffee can full of those old things somewhere around here.

  • @akquilter3519
    @akquilter3519 4 роки тому +1

    That was a treasure to see!! Certainly enjoyed your video. Is there a date for the next Splitter War?

    • @mafarmtown2086
      @mafarmtown2086 4 роки тому

      Alaskan Bare Huntr did you see his reply on mine, Oct 10th, 6 entries. It will be interesting watching this tractor run the splitter.

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому

      What MAFarm Town said. We have several of the original participants that cannot participate for various scheduling or other reasons, but two new participants will be demonstrating. This is the most recent update I've gotten from Roger @ Tractor Tech, the fellow that's spearheading the efforts.

  • @mafarmtown2086
    @mafarmtown2086 4 роки тому

    Interesting, sounds good too when it was running. Shame you missed it starting. Looking forward to the splitting wars video. How many are participating this time, or do you know yet?

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому

      Splitter Wars 2.0 will be uploaded on the 10th of October by 6 demonstrators I believe. We knew it'd start with a short tug, but I had no idea it was gonna be THAT short. Literally 3 feet once he let out the clutch !! Well....it might've been 4 feet....but man it didn't even stutter. Popped off and went perfectly to mid-throttle just that quick. I really wanted to be able to title it a 'First Start', but thought it better as a 'First Run' because after all that, I missed the start. Dang it anyway. Thank you for tuning in and soon I will be uploading a Splitter Wars 2.0 preparation video with a few more details. I'll list the other channels in the description where there is almost always an excess of verbage about the videos.

    • @mikeadams2339
      @mikeadams2339 4 роки тому

      First i have heard sw2. I think thatz how i found you last year? Old school aginst the youngsters?

  • @GrampiesWorkshop
    @GrampiesWorkshop 4 роки тому +1

    How's she goin'? Wow that old Tractor sounded some nice. Still getting lots of lube on the top end too!!! Had to do some stick handling but you guys get her to come back to life!!! It'll be great to see this in splitter wars!! Take care!!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Mike, there was a lot of head scratching going on making the different mag work I tell you, but by golly we got it !! Thanks for tuning in buddy.

  • @clarencetrice4442
    @clarencetrice4442 Рік тому +1

    when U have 2 start a tractor it always easier 2 take 1 tractor and pull the other especially on the 1S U have 2 hand crank U can only hand crank old tractor like only half a crank at a time it's alot better and easier 2 pull start them 😊❤🎉❤😊😊TLC/OMG 5 1O 2O23

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  Рік тому +1

      Yes, I agree with you on that point Clarence. We originally thought we could start it by hand easily with the newly rebuilt 'hot' magneto. My Much Older Brother worked on the old Challenger off and on for two years to get it to the point it was today for starting. Thank you for your interest in the video and please, stop by any time.

  • @gettintheresafelywithpatf2869
    @gettintheresafelywithpatf2869 4 роки тому

    Now that is a cool tractor... is it your brothers oldest working unit?

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому

      Yes I think so...but he has another '37 Massey Harris wide front, but its a model 25. It's only run once since I came home from the Marines in '75. He's got a WW2 tiny bulldozer that will fit in the bed of a pickup truck. But it is not running....yet.

    • @thesmallwoodlot433
      @thesmallwoodlot433 4 роки тому

      @@tractorman4461 key word... yet! I have a feeling it won’t be long!

  • @OldSneelock
    @OldSneelock 4 роки тому +1

    Pretty cool. 😁
    Never knew about water injection.
    So the water flashed to steam in the kerosene explosion and boosted the cylinder pressure?
    Loved to see it run. 😁😎

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому

      Yes, basically what you said and I did not do much justice to the process. But it would only be used on continual hard pulls. In no time at all there is such intense heat generated by the combustion process that the minuscule amount of water admitted would literally burst into a misty steam as it entered the intake and be drawn directly into the cylinders resulting in a much more dense air mixture that would not only boost cylinder pressure but would aid in forcing the piston back down the hole as the remaining droplets of atomizing mist would be subjected to yet more heat within the cylinders and complete the process of rapid expansion.
      What I think is odd is how an engine with the same cubic inches and with the same firing order can sound so much different that another of a different design by the same company. I could understand if the bores and strokes were different but still totalled 260 cu in, but they are the same bore and stroke and both are overhead valve engines.
      There's a British guy in his 80's right now that has designed a six stroke engine. Essentially a four stroke single that he somehow engineered another intake and exhaust stroke without fuel that injects water to do the same thing. Supposedly his process not only dramatically increases fuel efficiency, it produces more power, reduces heat because some of the normally wasted heat is consumed creating steam and at the same time causes the engine to run much cleaner because now it has a built in steam cleaner with each 5th and 6th stroke !! Again, that is a rudimentary and not totally correct description of what he has, but the story is quite intriguing.

  • @FromSteelToWood
    @FromSteelToWood 4 роки тому

    This is amazing how an old engine like that can be brought back to life! Too bad sometimes we don't get the best part of a project on camera. But you have it in your souvenir forever! Were the front tires solid rubber? Thanks!

    • @tractorman4461
      @tractorman4461  4 роки тому

      Good Morning Joe !! Hope all is well with your move and the re-roofing project. I thought we were going to have to pull it much further to get it going. I really didn't expect him to dump the clutch so soon...LOL. My camera was literally 50 feet away so I jumped off the pull tractor and ran up to turn it on within seconds though. LOL. I believe all the tires are the first rubber to go on the tractor, but they may have been put on in the 40's by the original owner. I think this one was factory supplied with tip toe spades on steel, I'll have to ask Glennon. But all four are tubed tires, not solid rubber.