Nice easy install and high visual impact product. I think if I was a serious off-roader, I would prefer crash bars that don't transmit impact forces to the engine casings. Funny how I'm slowly warming to this odd KTM fuel tank design. Many thanks.
Thanks Ray. Yeah there isnt a lot of options for places to mount to the frame on this bike. Adventure Spec said they use aluminium bars as they transfer less energy to the casing than steel. Essentially the bars are designed to be 'sacrificed' in a big crash to save the bike. I didnt like the tank when I first saw it, but its genius. The balance and handling of the bike is excellent, and keeping the weight low makes it feel lighter than the scales would suggest
Cheers Tony, watched this video about 20 times as I fitted the black bash plate and bars to my 890 Adventure in grey. Took me a solid 3 hours, but I am very cackhanded! Couldn't figure out how I wasn't able to get the upper bars to catch the bolts into the engine. Thought you were mistaken about the shorter one on the RH, then I realised I'D made the cockup! They were on backwards and upside down! Cheers again Tony
Agreed, I'll be removing the upper bars anyway. I havent laid the bike on its side yet to test, but i think the lower bars and handlebars will be the two points of contact with the road.
I might have gone for black but Tony, I'd deffo go with crash bars. And I would also recomen those plastic protection blocks for top and bottom bars, save having scratched paint should it get dropped.
I am 790R owner riding in on and offroad. And frankly the crash bars seems to be for me redundant, only doing the bike wider. Fuel tank covers do their job. What is worth is fuel pump cover to add some additional save space on fuel pump. And the skid plate as the original one is made from beer can or so. If you are planning offrading front end fairing brace would be good, I am planning to get one. And heat shield between cat and rear shock.
Hi Tony. Another great video. Ordered a set of bars today, as a result. As an aside, I'm interested in your hexagon video text insert effect. I am compiling some beekeeping videos and wondered how to replicate this. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks.
Thanks, are you referring to the ezcan installation short for the Africa Twin? if so that was editied in Final Cut pro and I just used one of the inbuilt titles for the text on screen.
I’d worry about the bars being attached to the engine, this could cause problems in a fast spill, so would rather take my chances without them. My 1290 SAR had been dropped a couple of times, but the attach points seem tougher. Another good and informative vid though, sir👌
Totally off topic any ideas on how to make the big better on longer highway rides. After about 30 plus minutes on the highway at 70mph I start to get a lot of discomfort between my upper shoulder blades. This only happens on longer highway rides. I can seriously ride all day on local back roads and have zero discomfort Edit: I almost forgot. Great video
Thanks. Maybe moving the bars to their more forward position would help. I felt i reached more for the bars on my Tiger, but maybe thats what made it comfortable on longer rides? But obviously that compromises your day to day riding.
Looks like about 20lbs worth of crash bars, I like the plate though. I put Touratech bars on my 890 with stock skid plate. I'm going to scrap them both for an AXP plate. 7lbs
I wouldn't bother with the crash bars. Couldn't they damage the frame? The bash guard is a good addition. It looks good, too. But will it look so good when it's inevitably scratched. Having said all that, I have crash bars on my Duke 390, but it came like that. Another excellent review, Tony.
Bash plate looks good. Really not convinced by the crash bars, firstly don't think they are needed, I've had admittedly fairly low speed drops on both sides offroad and the tank guard plates did a good job. I have two concerns about the crash bars: the mounting points don't look like they are designed to take much load, particularly the bracket bolted to the crankcase on the left. Secondly the lower crash bars look like they would increase the chances of catching on as something and digging in rather than sliding.
I tend to agree, I think the plastic guards are all that’s needed. Adventure Spec did say that they make the bars from aluminium to help disperse the energy, same with the mounting plates to some extend. In a big crash they are going to become sacrificial. I won’t be leaving the bars on, but the bash plate is a nice piece of kit.
very nice bike edits, at the bottom I have AXP skid and for top I have Touratech but I think your upper bars are better than mine, nice video, thank you, cheers V!
Personally I don’t think the 790 needs lower crash bars, thats taken car of by the saddlebag tank design. I’ve removed all the crash bars and just left the bash plate on. If they were steel I’d have a bigger problem with them being mounted to the engine, but their aluminium construction means they will deform in a crash and transfer less energy.
Thanks, I'm hoping the bash plate will prove useful when I pick clumsy lines off road. The stock plate may be enough, but one out of place rock could be all i need to warrant the change
@@mancavemoto If I did any sort of off roading I'd have the bash plate and lower tank protection, but as I'm just using it on the road and a big part of the appeal for me was the light weight I'll leave it as is. TBH an SMT or GT version of the 790 Duke would suit my needs if they made such a thing
I’ve had no issues other than the known tft case condensation. That’s being replaced under warranty in the new year. This is a used bike though, so I don’t know if the previous owner had things to put right?
It’s not ideal, but there isn’t really much opportunity to mount to the frame on this bike. That’s why they make them out of aluminium rather than steel, the bars themselves will absorb more of the energy.
Would not a better option be getting in touch with the Federation of Planets and purchasing the technology thay will allow invisable shields to be used instead ?
The top bar is very awkward, the front of the engine seem like a walker for the elderly. Installation of the lower bar to the engine block is a problem.
Nice easy install and high visual impact product. I think if I was a serious off-roader, I would prefer crash bars that don't transmit impact forces to the engine casings. Funny how I'm slowly warming to this odd KTM fuel tank design. Many thanks.
Thanks Ray. Yeah there isnt a lot of options for places to mount to the frame on this bike. Adventure Spec said they use aluminium bars as they transfer less energy to the casing than steel. Essentially the bars are designed to be 'sacrificed' in a big crash to save the bike. I didnt like the tank when I first saw it, but its genius. The balance and handling of the bike is excellent, and keeping the weight low makes it feel lighter than the scales would suggest
Cheers Tony, watched this video about 20 times as I fitted the black bash plate and bars to my 890 Adventure in grey. Took me a solid 3 hours, but I am very cackhanded!
Couldn't figure out how I wasn't able to get the upper bars to catch the bolts into the engine. Thought you were mistaken about the shorter one on the RH, then I realised I'D made the cockup! They were on backwards and upside down!
Cheers again Tony
Ha, glad I could be of help!
I had to put my sunglasses on to watch the vid 😎 🤣 but agree the bash guard looks great 👍🏻
Like staring at Donald Trump in the sunshine
Lower crash bar and skid plate are awesome! Upper crash bar isn't quite esthetical IMO but it sure does the job :)
Agreed, I'll be removing the upper bars anyway. I havent laid the bike on its side yet to test, but i think the lower bars and handlebars will be the two points of contact with the road.
Love the bash plate, not sure about the engine bars!
Looking great! Way better than the original bash plate. And having crash bars can't hurt. :D
Thank you so much! The instructions that came with the Adventure Spec crash bars are as bad as their UA-cam video. Yours saved the day!
No problem!
I might have gone for black but Tony, I'd deffo go with crash bars. And I would also recomen those plastic protection blocks for top and bottom bars, save having scratched paint should it get dropped.
I would have too, the crash bar fitment was done for Adventure Spec more than me. They'll be coming off today
I am 790R owner riding in on and offroad. And frankly the crash bars seems to be for me redundant, only doing the bike wider. Fuel tank covers do their job.
What is worth is fuel pump cover to add some additional save space on fuel pump.
And the skid plate as the original one is made from beer can or so.
If you are planning offrading front end fairing brace would be good, I am planning to get one. And heat shield between cat and rear shock.
I agree, for me personally the crash bars just add weight and bulk
Hi Tony. Another great video. Ordered a set of bars today, as a result. As an aside, I'm interested in your hexagon video text insert effect. I am compiling some beekeeping videos and wondered how to replicate this. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks.
Thanks, are you referring to the ezcan installation short for the Africa Twin? if so that was editied in Final Cut pro and I just used one of the inbuilt titles for the text on screen.
No, this Bash plate video. Time codes 2:27 and 2:34. @@mancavemoto
Ah right OK, thats a title that came in a free pack from Simple Video Making, this one; simplevideomaking.com/7-free-fcpx-titles-and-lower-thirds/
Hi Tony, I think the bars and guard are very smart, like the orange guard but if it were mine I would go with black crash bars. Keep up the 790 vids.😎
Agreed, I would have gone with black bars if I was buying them
I’d worry about the bars being attached to the engine, this could cause problems in a fast spill, so would rather take my chances without them. My 1290 SAR had been dropped a couple of times, but the attach points seem tougher. Another good and informative vid though, sir👌
That was my thought exactly. It seems the forces in a crash would be transferred directly to the engine case. They look good though.....
Totally off topic any ideas on how to make the big better on longer highway rides. After about 30 plus minutes on the highway at 70mph I start to get a lot of discomfort between my upper shoulder blades. This only happens on longer highway rides. I can seriously ride all day on local back roads and have zero discomfort
Edit: I almost forgot. Great video
Thanks. Maybe moving the bars to their more forward position would help. I felt i reached more for the bars on my Tiger, but maybe thats what made it comfortable on longer rides? But obviously that compromises your day to day riding.
Looks like about 20lbs worth of crash bars, I like the plate though. I put Touratech bars on my 890 with stock skid plate. I'm going to scrap them both for an AXP plate. 7lbs
Thats why only the bash guard got lefty on the bike. I crashed it off road and the tank protectors and OEM handguards did the job
A well made video, every step covered 😎👌 bike looks good for sure
I wouldn't bother with the crash bars. Couldn't they damage the frame? The bash guard is a good addition. It looks good, too. But will it look so good when it's inevitably scratched. Having said all that, I have crash bars on my Duke 390, but it came like that.
Another excellent review, Tony.
Thanks mate, yep the bars are coming off, I never intended to fit them, but at least it showed people there was an option.
Bash plate looks good. Really not convinced by the crash bars, firstly don't think they are needed, I've had admittedly fairly low speed drops on both sides offroad and the tank guard plates did a good job. I have two concerns about the crash bars: the mounting points don't look like they are designed to take much load, particularly the bracket bolted to the crankcase on the left. Secondly the lower crash bars look like they would increase the chances of catching on as something and digging in rather than sliding.
I tend to agree, I think the plastic guards are all that’s needed. Adventure Spec did say that they make the bars from aluminium to help disperse the energy, same with the mounting plates to some extend. In a big crash they are going to become sacrificial. I won’t be leaving the bars on, but the bash plate is a nice piece of kit.
So the lower crash bar is there if you fall to get easy crack in crankcase?
Estoy en Bolivia, cuál sería el precio de esa barra de protección?
Debería comunicarse con Adventure Spec para obtener un precio enviado a Bolivia
Is it not bad that the crash bars are mounted to the engine casing?
It’s not great, but it’s where the OEM ones are fitted. These are apparently designed to deform and spread the load across all the mounting points.
Hello, will the bash plate fit a 890 adventure r 2023 ?? Thanks
It should do yes, nothing changed where thats concerned i believe?
Does this fits the new 2024 790 adventure? Thank you
As far as i'm aware there are no changes to the fixing points, not sure if the lower tank profile on the bike has changed though?
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very nice bike edits, at the bottom I have AXP skid and for top I have Touratech but I think your upper bars are better than mine, nice video, thank you, cheers V!
Cheers V, I did look at the AXP plate, but settled on this as it’s essentially a beefier version of the stock bash plate.
@@mancavemoto went w AXP just because is covering sides of the tank and this way don’t need lower bars and the front is covered up to radiator
Great info. Plate yes bars no in orange anyway maybe the bars will look better in black👍
I think they would
I’d leave the bottom ones on and take the top ones off. The bottom ones work really well with the bash plate but the top ones are a bit much I reckon.
I agree Charlie, I’ll probably lose the bottom ones too as I think the stock plastic protectors do a good enough job
@@mancavemoto although, we do like an upgrade and the black bars are VERY nice
Hi,Tony what’s your view on the lower crash bar which secure to the engine case instead of the frame?
Personally I don’t think the 790 needs lower crash bars, thats taken car of by the saddlebag tank design. I’ve removed all the crash bars and just left the bash plate on. If they were steel I’d have a bigger problem with them being mounted to the engine, but their aluminium construction means they will deform in a crash and transfer less energy.
@@mancavemoto I see.... Thanks for the clarification and as always love your video reviews... 🤘👍🤘👍👍
Hi good stuff.
Can you get at oil drain and filters without removing bash plate?
Hi Nigel, No unfortunately not, its the same as the stock version. But its equally as easy to remove as well
Great fitting guide, not sure I'd fit either as my use doesn't really warrant it but they look well made
Thanks, I'm hoping the bash plate will prove useful when I pick clumsy lines off road. The stock plate may be enough, but one out of place rock could be all i need to warrant the change
@@mancavemoto If I did any sort of off roading I'd have the bash plate and lower tank protection, but as I'm just using it on the road and a big part of the appeal for me was the light weight I'll leave it as is. TBH an SMT or GT version of the 790 Duke would suit my needs if they made such a thing
Hi matey any issues with the 790 I ve heard a few issue with seals leaking etc anything on yours ?
I’ve had no issues other than the known tft case condensation. That’s being replaced under warranty in the new year. This is a used bike though, so I don’t know if the previous owner had things to put right?
Been wanting to change my signal lights for my 790 adventure seen ur video wanting to know where can i buy the same set up pls let me know thanks sir
As far as I’m aware these are the stock indicators
Ride the bike with all in place let us know what you think, has the handling changed ?
Not noticeably no, still felt as balanced. I have now taken off the crash bars and am running with just the bash plate, which was my initial plan
Isn't mounting crash bars to the engine a bad idea? Won't that damage the engine more easily?
It’s not ideal, but there isn’t really much opportunity to mount to the frame on this bike. That’s why they make them out of aluminium rather than steel, the bars themselves will absorb more of the energy.
@@mancavemoto Hah I see. Perhaps the bolt will snap before bigger damage is done too on impact? It looked like a m6 bolt or something...
Would not a better option be getting in touch with the Federation of Planets and purchasing the technology thay will allow invisable shields to be used instead ?
Does it work with a center stand? So far that’s been the issue with most of these after market protection kits
This one does at its fits and covers the same form as the OEM bashplate, its just thicker and tougher.
Ditch the center stand, too heavy, low clearance.
@@erictrenbeath9680 fail!
@@zerotonine807 Works well for me without. Don't know how or where you ride, but no serious off-roader has a center stand.
Tony, you’ll have to contact Techalogic to test their dual recording helmet camera. I could do with one of your discounts! 😁
I'll have to check them out, not heard of them :)
Oh dear, it looks as if you rode the bike at high speed into a shopping trolley😐
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“Who doesn’t like an upgrade ?”, They’ll put that on your tombstone mate 😂😂😂
Better than some suggestions I’ve had Charlie! 😂
The top bar is very awkward, the front of the engine seem like a walker for the elderly. Installation of the lower bar to the engine block is a problem.
Yes, i'm not keem on it which is why i removed the bars and just have the bash plate fitted now.
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I always wonder, where does the British accent get nium from num in aluminum.
In UK English it’s spelt Aluminium, in American English it’s spelt Aluminum. There’s an extra ‘I’ hence the pronunciation.
it's literally in the spelling numbnuts. We spell it correctly and say it correctly.