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Very well said. I nudged my partner into taking sentinel on her secondary Astarion instead of skilled and with our double backline plus shadow heart warding bond, she's just seeing how powerful BUFFED sentinel is with the rogue who likes melee. I took my experience for granted for sure, my non and friends think the game is much harder lol
Yess it's like they somehow got the spark of trying spells for the first time even tho we all alr know what they do. Just seeing how each spell plays and is animated is so fun
5e is such a shallow system though, it's hard to believe that anyone without knowledge would struggle in any significant way :) Mind you I'm not complaining, I'm simply saying that said knowledge hardly matters.
@@Micras08 I see why you'd say that but understanding like, action economy vs seeing how big damage numbers look can be a barrier. I agree it's not like, a massive advantage, but even most people who try to min max in 5e don't have a great understanding of what is and isn't powerful in my opinion. But like, compared to other systems I 100 percent agree, it's not that complex
@@BlueFoxXT I guess that's true. Something as trivial as making sure not to waste your reaction can make a whole lot of difference, so there's still room for optimization which is good :)
@@scetchmonkey007 2E hits a balance for me between 3.5's crunch and 5e's simplicity. A lot more character options, but most numbers are fairly straightforward.
This is honestly awesome to see. I also love how each weapon has it's own ability that can be used with a bonus action. Giving warrior focused classes more options especially if they wield multiple weapons
@@joshholmes1372Yeah, but it also make one handed and Two Handed builds more different than each other now I will say the AOE based Melee like Axes and Hammers are deffinitly top tier
Ok, here is what I figured out from this video: 1)Jumping is incredibly satisfying 2)Obsession with optimization leads to spider fetish (seriously, spider familiars, spider wild shape, spider animal companion - I am not sure if I could watch this video if I were arachnophobe) 3)Larian were so good at teaching machine how to DM, that they even taught it how to miscalculate, like a real DM Good job, Pack Tactics! I can't wait for more!
i have to admit, DnD experience, feels like cheating in the game. Like - "Hello, I came from the future where I played the game and know everything about it". That might be a bit of an exaggeration. A lot considering how they changed things. But it did help me when my friend was stuck in an encounter - an hour of optimization later, he just destroyed everything. Felt awesome.
@@cordenhuman Does it? Usually when you have advantage you notice a little green dice next to the effect. Height only gives a + meaning it gives a flat mod. Unless i really didn't pay attention i don't think it gives advantage. I guess the next time i have high ground i will make sure to take note :3
The bonus action push is nuts, I built around that, 2 polearm master fighters, warlock 2 bard x with repelling blast, and a wizard. Works like a charm, and the neat thing that you don't need a lot of rests like with barbs and druids.
Btw thief rogue gets 2 bonus actions so you could probably do double web with 3 levels of rogue lol I’ve been using double flurry of blows with my shadow monk/thief build it’s crazy
@@joshholmes1372 it's actually little nerfed compared to EA. in EA everyone had 1 hide as a free action so you could basically at any round hide (if you weren't in stealth), sneak attack, and hide back as a bonus action. which meant that if arena's had any blind spots, all attack are sneak attacks and rogue remains undetected, which was OP as hell
One trick for more optimization. Carry candles. Drop one as a free action. Then as a bonus action you can dip your weapons for +1d4 fire damage for a few rounds. It dips both weapons when dual weilding. This also ignites webs, so the free webs now save for the entangle and can then be burned.
We do not want to burn the webs. Webs makes it so enemies have a harder time getting to us and its a bigger damage increase if they get stuck compared to 1d4 fire damage on the floor.
@@PackTactics you can just web them again. Infinite webs, You can judge as needed. And even without the web interaction it is bonus damage to each attack, triggers often with those double hand crossbows. And the fire damage can apply to physically resistant/immune targets. You are always optimizing and considering every dpr change, so just wanted to make sure you knew about the option.
Maybe early on that's good, but coatings/poisons are better by far. They don't burn the webs and can have cool effects like poison/blind/sleep or just damage ofc.
Bruh watching you all stumble through that owlbear scene despite having all the tools in front of you to do it the 'right' way gave me DM flashbacks lol. There is no right way though, and that was funny af
i love how theres so many ways to deal with combat in this game, with creativity is the limit. Personally i played ranged assassin, kill one with surprise attack then flee from the battle and repeat. My friend befriend the goblin army and can just safely travel in that area, while one of crazy guy i know just stacking the box into a tower and start raining arrows from above killing everyone.
Hope you enjoy the game kobold! Martials are def not as strong as casters but they are significantly stronger than in base 5e. Mainly from magic items. My PAM/sentinel/gwm fighter is rockin 23 AC with a halberd rn.
the weapons have special attacks and shove is a bonus action that can push someone beyond 5ft (depends on the str)...yes, they are on same lvl, just because martial "can" choose their magic items and some of them are kinda broken for bg3
@@TheBlink182ifythe special actions that you get from weapons are nice, but absolutely not on the level of power or versatility that casters get with their spells. The literal best special attack I've found wasn't until near the climax of act 2 and it essentially cast a small fairie fire that enemies don't get to save against.
Consider this: Tempest Cleric 6 / Sorcerer 6. Shadowheart casts Create and Destroy water to set wet. You cast two Lightning Bolts and maximize the damage of both. That's 192 (96 on a save) in a huge line without up-casting, and you can do it again after a short rest. Edit: By Cleric 2 / Sorcerer 1 you can maximize chromatic orb, and by Cleric 2 / Sorcerer 5 you can cast two lightning bolts and maximize one of them.
The optimal version of that build would be Tempest Cleric 6 Storm Sorceror 5 Wizard 1. There is currently a feature with multiclassed wizards where they can copy spell scrolls and prepare said spells for any level of spell that they have slots for. Meaning, despite only being a level 1 wizard, that multiclass character would have access to 3rd level cleric spells, 3rd level sorceror spells, and 6th level wizard spells This is balanced out by the fact that unless you wear an item that increases your int scores, you won't be able to prepare very many wizard spells, and you'll mostly have those spells be relegated to summons, buffs, or general utility. Good options for anyone to pick up are Shield, Misty Step, Haste, Greater Invisibility, and Conjure Elemental
Yes, please make more of these! You guys are awesome to watch and super helpful. I learned a lot about this game, plus I would have assumed this and the table top version rules were the same, so thank you for clearing that up!
The combat tips are massively helpful, I've been struggling with some of the fights and any combat guide online just says things that amount to "use your action and bonus action to kill the enemy"
This was fantastic. I love the optimized insights & highlighted changes compared to 5e, very very entertaining. Please more of this, honestly just keep 'em coming, I can't get enough
i really want to see a LOT more of this playthrough. its so fun to see people more or less minmax the game and see how you can beat it with not that many long/short rests
Fun optimizations for people looking for BG3-specific optimization: (some may get patched obviously) Pact of Blade's Extra Attack feature currently STACKS with normal Extra Attack. Paladin 1/Warlock 5/Paladin +6 is very powerful for the same reasons a 5e hexadin is normally is, but you are additionally potent in melee compared to the 'normal' 5e hexadin. Thief Rogue's Fast Hands can be used to Martial Arts with a Monk multiclass, if you stagger the BA attacks between the main attacks (Thief 3/Monk 5+). I have not run numbers, but I think the numerous attacks here may actually bring it past your generic GWF/PAM Fighter. Tavern Brawler has been reworked and now makes attack/damage rolls with improvised or thrown weapons use DOUBLE strength mod. Putting this on a throw-focused barbarian with some javelins can become quite silly with both accuracy and damage. Again no numbers run yet, but this is quite broken out of the box, especially if you abuse standing on boxes while you throw. Beast Master w/ Beast Tamer gives you 2 summonable bodies that only require actions, not spell slots. I recommender Raven familiar (No-save blind on hit, has flight), and Giant Spider Companion (just look at the video above, spammable web, mega jumps, very saucy, bring a candle to dip your arrows in and light the webs)
The first 2 will likely get fixed(I am surprised how good Monks are, ESPECIALLY Open Hand of all thing) The other 2 i dont think is going to be fixed since its way more intentional than the first 2 I mean come on, we NEED Strength Build to be viable, especially when its Berserker Barbarian Pretty sure you can even throw Javelin Twice thanks to Berserker Rage, but it IS funnier to see a Goblin gets yeeted to a Ogre and both of them dies
Nice video, looking forward for more! Personally I felt the game is in “tutorial mode” in terms of encounter difficulty until around the time you hit lvl 3. Also, you’ve got to check out Tavern brawler strength monk. Almost 100% hit chance, good damage and defence.
Since my one buddy is raving about how great BG3 is, I'm glad to see some good footage of the multiplayer! Out of curiosity, what made you pick black dragonborn over the Blue Dragonborn for Big Kobold?
I used 5e logic. There's less creatures immune or resistant to acid overall in 5e. If it was thunder damage instead of lightning then I would pick blue. But overall it doesn't matter because Dragonborn sucks, That breath weapon is still bad. Also Dragonborns not getting darkvision will hurt me later on in the game. The only reason why I picked Dragonborn was so I can play as myself. There's no mechanical benefit here. I just let the class do the heavy work instead.
@@PackTactics Thanks for the reply back! I kind of wish this game had the Fizban style dragonborn races in this game instead of the PHB dragonborn. The PHB dragonborn is easily one of the weaker races in 5E.
Dragonborn have some unique dialouge options and some npcs will treat you differently. I even got a dragonborn specific option while I was forking one of my companions. Nothing spectacular mechanically but they are athestically pleasing and have fun interactions in the world.
yeah, i similarly went with human for rp reasons, but gith is just objectively better for martial classes (proficiencies don't matter if your class has them anyway, so that's 1 free skill vs. multiple free skills AND invisible mage hand - which is stupidly good in this game - and other stuff). A shame there wasn't any real attempt to balance the races in this game, but whatever, class matters more anyway so its not that bit a deal.
26:39 You can make it so dual wielding hand crossbows only fires one shot at a time. If you look at the crossbow image, and see the 4 blue boxes below that, clicking the blue box with the double swords will make it so you can fire each bolt individually (box will be a single sword now). Since the first bolt killed that goblin, you could have used the other bolt for a different goblin. Loved the video btw :)
@@PackTactics Nice. I figured you would have, but wanted to be sure (and in case others didn't know). I'm sure you're also aware that Thief Rogue gives an extra BA at level 3 which is just hilarious with 2 hand crossbows. Feels like you have a machine gun haha
@@danzansandeev6033 you'd get 4 shots per turn without using resources (action 2 attacks, 2 bonus actions for 2 more) You could take it to 6 once per short rest with Action Surge Or drink a potion of speed/get hasted and have 6 for basically a full combat And you could add 3 lvls of gloomstalker to get another attack on the first round of combat
I love olive this! Been playing BG3 from the start and it's just an amazing game. Larian really buffed monk, thief get's a second bonus action at 3rd level, 5th lvl pacts for warlock all got buffed. So much more than that too. Honestly, I would love to see not only more of that fun group play, but eventually some optimization thoughts.
Yeah, I also wanna know. I think Four Elements might have been re-tuned on the number of points everything costs, but mostly it seems like they're just better because 1) a lot of enemies use bows and 2) you take 2 short rests almost every day.
8:00 You can use an action to wildshape as moondruid, the 5e RAW rules say "You gain the ability to wildshape as a bonus action", meaning you get a second one. Same with this game. You can use the action-wildshape button or the bonus-action-wildshape button. Big fan how bg3 handles druid wildshapes, too. Few, but powerful with specific features. Much more fun than just magic-cheesing it or being a worse fighter while your "temp hp" last.
16:13 I believe they used to be Monstrosities in BG3 too, talk with animals would work but animal friendship or such spells wouldn't, which confused new players. I do understand the monstrosity tag, but I can also understand how confusing it is for newbies too: on first glance, it is just a fantasy beast.
I think they're trying to reclass owlbears as beasts nowadays because of how iconic they are to the franchise. The film from last year had Doric use an owlbear as her main wild shape form and with BG3 changing them to beasts allowing druid here to do the same, I wouldn't be surprised if come OneDnD they get fully reclassed to a beast.
Any full caster X/Wizard 1 seems to be the current meta. Ideally it's a non-arcane caster for variety. You can learn all Wizard spells through reading, and the game uses your highest spell slot level to determine what level of Wizard spell you can learn. You get access to the entire spell list of any caster + Wizard list this way.
Teching wildheart barb on the spiders builds might be crazy, at level 6 you can get animal aspect wolverine which maims (reduces speed to 0 till healed) for 1 turn, and with spider inflicting poison alongside ranged attacks it might be good, negatives are spiders innately having web and needing half your total levels for it.
First off, I love the "Big Kobold" is a dragonborn. Wait till you get your first encounter with kobolds, it's super fun. Yes, use fire when you meet them, trust me, it's more entertaining that way. Just make sure you're standing back when the whole room of drunk Kobolds explodes, ok? Also, I think WotC sorta soft-retconned owlbears into being animals, or at least being animals and monstrosities cause in the Honor Among Thieves movie the Druid could wildshape into an Owlbear. So like, I'd say screw it and just count Owlbears as both in my home games at this point even if there isn't an official errata change for Owlbears yet. Obviously they're "animal" enough to count for wildshape and speak with animals.
2 minutes in and we already know kobold's name is Brian. Kobold lore intensifies! Unless Evelyn big brained us and deliberately called you a fake name, but I dont think thats likely
I remembered struggling with that last encounter, was running Solo PC with the Barbarian, Fighter and Warlock as backup. Not enough where I needed to Death Roll, but ate through a lot of resources. Was enough that I needed to consider respecing some of my Sorcerers stats to better work around some of his weaknesses
When I realized Jump was ritual I was so happy. My ranger is going to have great fun with it especially later on when I multiclass to thief for the extra bonus action and have athlete. Nothing will escape my little forest gnome!
The Owlbear did warn you not to step out of line, and what's one of the biggest rules when it comes to bear cubs and their babies? Don't approach the babies. But I do find it frustrating as you are right, Owlbears aren't beasts... Still. Free baby owlbear (if you play right).
I am actually considering using some of the rule changes. Things like bonus action shove and +2/-2 for high and low ground is also pretty cool. The solution for Beserker where the exhaustion only lasts for the duration of the rage is also cool.
And you can get an item where you get bonus health when ending rage voluntarily. Which most barbarians would never do, but a berserker might to reset their debuff stacks.
I love Larian studios and have been so excited for Baldur's gate! but I've never played dnd. Its really interesting seeing the little comments about differences between Baldur's gate and dnd 5e.
Good video! Looking forward to more BG3 content. Do you think melee is just not worth it compared to ranged? Your combats certainly make a case for that.
Would be silly to bring melee fighters with webs everywhere and imagine being the only one... Their whole strategy revolves around making fun of melee opposition. If you're planning around a melee focused party, it can be really effective too. But if you start bringing aoe magic with little care for your melee... It all comes down to what you want to do, but with thought and preparation.
So many webs. Meanwhile, I’m just gonna be a GOOlock with the Speak with Animals invocation because that does unlock quite a bit of content, as far as I have heard.
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Thank you for giving this game a try!
Are you planing to upload / posting your Let's play?
Could you please post full planned builds for all 4 pcs?
Is there any point to playing moon druid if land druid is this strong?
BG3 with 5e optimization knowledge is so fun, they changed just the right amount to make things feel novel while keeping your old knowledge relevant.
Very well said. I nudged my partner into taking sentinel on her secondary Astarion instead of skilled and with our double backline plus shadow heart warding bond, she's just seeing how powerful BUFFED sentinel is with the rogue who likes melee. I took my experience for granted for sure, my non and friends think the game is much harder lol
Yess it's like they somehow got the spark of trying spells for the first time even tho we all alr know what they do. Just seeing how each spell plays and is animated is so fun
5e is such a shallow system though, it's hard to believe that anyone without knowledge would struggle in any significant way :) Mind you I'm not complaining, I'm simply saying that said knowledge hardly matters.
@@Micras08 I see why you'd say that but understanding like, action economy vs seeing how big damage numbers look can be a barrier. I agree it's not like, a massive advantage, but even most people who try to min max in 5e don't have a great understanding of what is and isn't powerful in my opinion.
But like, compared to other systems I 100 percent agree, it's not that complex
@@BlueFoxXT I guess that's true. Something as trivial as making sure not to waste your reaction can make a whole lot of difference, so there's still room for optimization which is good :)
“Is there repelling blast?”
Bugbear space program in the background.
“Yes”
I very much enjoyed how good of timing I had on that EB for sure. Repelling blast flight go brrrr in this game
@anarcnamedjustin3451 it's so satisfying and makes EB more than just a cannon.
Please develop this into a series!
Agreed!!
yes!
Please lol😅
Please!!
Please do this
I've been avoiding videos on this game to avoid story spoilers. I feel safe watching this video
Yeah. We optimizers don't like roleplaying so there's no spoilers here. Just combat lol.
@@PackTacticsas a pathfinder 1e player, I can't remember the last time I roll played. Its just crazy martial builds and nothing else.
@@PackTacticsI figured that when you immediately killed La'azel in a surprise round after freeing her XD
@@scetchmonkey007 I have, but I also play older versions.
@@scetchmonkey007 2E hits a balance for me between 3.5's crunch and 5e's simplicity. A lot more character options, but most numbers are fairly straightforward.
This is honestly awesome to see. I also love how each weapon has it's own ability that can be used with a bonus action. Giving warrior focused classes more options especially if they wield multiple weapons
Definitely a buff to martials and two weapons fighters in particular.
@@joshholmes1372Yeah, but it also make one handed and Two Handed builds more different than each other now
I will say the AOE based Melee like Axes and Hammers are deffinitly top tier
the group of optimizers immediately killing a main npc just to get her half plate is the funniest thing to me
Turning those spells into rituals really opens up some fun movement options. I really like that change! Strong, yes, but worth it for the fun!
I've avoided using jump because i assumed it used a spell slot! argh
@@nZifnab its a ritual so you have to precast it unless you want to avoid using a spell slot but yeah
@@mranderson9553 I get that, I just hadn't realized it was a ritual spell :P
Only twenty-seven and a half minutes?! KOBOLD WE NEED MORE
We have more than 12 hours of footage so far. There will be more.
why did I read this in Gator's voice?
@@kelmirosue3251 Because I intended it in Gator's voice.
@@PackTacticsTHEN GIVE
@@PackTactics I am not responsible for any Kobold Riots that happen if you do not gib more
Ok, here is what I figured out from this video:
1)Jumping is incredibly satisfying
2)Obsession with optimization leads to spider fetish (seriously, spider familiars, spider wild shape, spider animal companion - I am not sure if I could watch this video if I were arachnophobe)
3)Larian were so good at teaching machine how to DM, that they even taught it how to miscalculate, like a real DM
Good job, Pack Tactics! I can't wait for more!
i have to admit, DnD experience, feels like cheating in the game. Like - "Hello, I came from the future where I played the game and know everything about it". That might be a bit of an exaggeration. A lot considering how they changed things. But it did help me when my friend was stuck in an encounter - an hour of optimization later, he just destroyed everything. Felt awesome.
yeah me taking 3 crates for permanent advantage with range is ridicolous and not something normal players will do right at start
Nothing cheaty about it. Knowledge is power. If you already know all the tricks then obviously you can power through
@@gromigur I think height gives you a +2, not advantage
@@Faith-sl1re it gives both advantage and +2
@@cordenhuman Does it? Usually when you have advantage you notice a little green dice next to the effect. Height only gives a + meaning it gives a flat mod. Unless i really didn't pay attention i don't think it gives advantage. I guess the next time i have high ground i will make sure to take note :3
The bonus action push is nuts, I built around that, 2 polearm master fighters, warlock 2 bard x with repelling blast, and a wizard. Works like a charm, and the neat thing that you don't need a lot of rests like with barbs and druids.
Btw thief rogue gets 2 bonus actions so you could probably do double web with 3 levels of rogue lol I’ve been using double flurry of blows with my shadow monk/thief build it’s crazy
Thief is probably the most busted subclass for that reason. It makes an offhand hand crossbows 1d6+dex twice per round.
Hell yeah I did the same with rouge and monk
@@joshholmes1372 better yet the offhand attack recieves the damage buff from Sharpshooter but not the to hit penalty which is... definetly intentional
Or go strength monk with tavern brawler
@@joshholmes1372 it's actually little nerfed compared to EA. in EA everyone had 1 hide as a free action so you could basically at any round hide (if you weren't in stealth), sneak attack, and hide back as a bonus action. which meant that if arena's had any blind spots, all attack are sneak attacks and rogue remains undetected, which was OP as hell
I would love to see more of this BG3 content. A new game from my favorite game studio being played with one of my favorite UA-camrs is a massive win.
sounds like one of those "a full military team vs mr beast and a friend" kinda feel and i love it
One trick for more optimization.
Carry candles. Drop one as a free action. Then as a bonus action you can dip your weapons for +1d4 fire damage for a few rounds. It dips both weapons when dual weilding.
This also ignites webs, so the free webs now save for the entangle and can then be burned.
We do not want to burn the webs. Webs makes it so enemies have a harder time getting to us and its a bigger damage increase if they get stuck compared to 1d4 fire damage on the floor.
@@PackTactics you can just web them again. Infinite webs, You can judge as needed.
And even without the web interaction it is bonus damage to each attack, triggers often with those double hand crossbows. And the fire damage can apply to physically resistant/immune targets.
You are always optimizing and considering every dpr change, so just wanted to make sure you knew about the option.
Maybe early on that's good, but coatings/poisons are better by far. They don't burn the webs and can have cool effects like poison/blind/sleep or just damage ofc.
Oh, so that maniacal laughter I heard in the distance before was this group finding the boots of web-walking.
would love to see bg3 builds from you
"Why would the angry creature mother attack me for walking up to their baby?" lol
Bruh watching you all stumble through that owlbear scene despite having all the tools in front of you to do it the 'right' way gave me DM flashbacks lol. There is no right way though, and that was funny af
"All"? He just walked right up to the mother who just warned him not to get close! I blame Kobold.
i love how theres so many ways to deal with combat in this game, with creativity is the limit. Personally i played ranged assassin, kill one with surprise attack then flee from the battle and repeat. My friend befriend the goblin army and can just safely travel in that area, while one of crazy guy i know just stacking the box into a tower and start raining arrows from above killing everyone.
Honestly this is how i expected a professional monster hunting group to play.
Hope you enjoy the game kobold! Martials are def not as strong as casters but they are significantly stronger than in base 5e. Mainly from magic items. My PAM/sentinel/gwm fighter is rockin 23 AC with a halberd rn.
the weapons have special attacks and shove is a bonus action that can push someone beyond 5ft (depends on the str)...yes, they are on same lvl, just because martial "can" choose their magic items and some of them are kinda broken for bg3
Allowing strength to add to shove and grapple distance is a nice way to boost strength stat relevancy.
@@DeadpoolAli and jumping too without fall dmg
@@TheBlink182ify Jumping has fall damage but they ritual cast feather fall to negate it.
@@TheBlink182ifythe special actions that you get from weapons are nice, but absolutely not on the level of power or versatility that casters get with their spells. The literal best special attack I've found wasn't until near the climax of act 2 and it essentially cast a small fairie fire that enemies don't get to save against.
Thank you for giving this game a try!
Are you planing to upload / posting your Let's play?
This is the let's play. We're going to finish act 1 together.
Ok. Good luck!@@PackTactics
Consider this:
Tempest Cleric 6 / Sorcerer 6.
Shadowheart casts Create and Destroy water to set wet. You cast two Lightning Bolts and maximize the damage of both. That's 192 (96 on a save) in a huge line without up-casting, and you can do it again after a short rest.
Edit: By Cleric 2 / Sorcerer 1 you can maximize chromatic orb, and by Cleric 2 / Sorcerer 5 you can cast two lightning bolts and maximize one of them.
The optimal version of that build would be Tempest Cleric 6 Storm Sorceror 5 Wizard 1. There is currently a feature with multiclassed wizards where they can copy spell scrolls and prepare said spells for any level of spell that they have slots for. Meaning, despite only being a level 1 wizard, that multiclass character would have access to 3rd level cleric spells, 3rd level sorceror spells, and 6th level wizard spells
This is balanced out by the fact that unless you wear an item that increases your int scores, you won't be able to prepare very many wizard spells, and you'll mostly have those spells be relegated to summons, buffs, or general utility. Good options for anyone to pick up are Shield, Misty Step, Haste, Greater Invisibility, and Conjure Elemental
Storm sorcerers in bg3 also get free spells at level 6. Thunderwave, create/destroy water, Sleet Storm, gust of wind, and Call Lightning.
Yes, please make more of these! You guys are awesome to watch and super helpful. I learned a lot about this game, plus I would have assumed this and the table top version rules were the same, so thank you for clearing that up!
Pretty neat! If you were looking for a different 5E video game I'd suggest Solasta: Crown of the Magister. It's pretty fun.
Specially with the "Unfinished Business" mod to add a whole ton of subclasses and feats.
Ahhhh! Good ol' classic web.
more! (please) - and talk about your builds, so more different than our standard single class builds most of us use
The combat tips are massively helpful, I've been struggling with some of the fights and any combat guide online just says things that amount to "use your action and bonus action to kill the enemy"
This was fantastic. I love the optimized insights & highlighted changes compared to 5e, very very entertaining. Please more of this, honestly just keep 'em coming, I can't get enough
This looks more fun to play with friends than I realized it would be.
i really want to see a LOT more of this playthrough. its so fun to see people more or less minmax the game and see how you can beat it with not that many long/short rests
Fun optimizations for people looking for BG3-specific optimization:
(some may get patched obviously)
Pact of Blade's Extra Attack feature currently STACKS with normal Extra Attack. Paladin 1/Warlock 5/Paladin +6 is very powerful for the same reasons a 5e hexadin is normally is, but you are additionally potent in melee compared to the 'normal' 5e hexadin.
Thief Rogue's Fast Hands can be used to Martial Arts with a Monk multiclass, if you stagger the BA attacks between the main attacks (Thief 3/Monk 5+). I have not run numbers, but I think the numerous attacks here may actually bring it past your generic GWF/PAM Fighter.
Tavern Brawler has been reworked and now makes attack/damage rolls with improvised or thrown weapons use DOUBLE strength mod. Putting this on a throw-focused barbarian with some javelins can become quite silly with both accuracy and damage. Again no numbers run yet, but this is quite broken out of the box, especially if you abuse standing on boxes while you throw.
Beast Master w/ Beast Tamer gives you 2 summonable bodies that only require actions, not spell slots. I recommender Raven familiar (No-save blind on hit, has flight), and Giant Spider Companion (just look at the video above, spammable web, mega jumps, very saucy, bring a candle to dip your arrows in and light the webs)
The first 2 will likely get fixed(I am surprised how good Monks are, ESPECIALLY Open Hand of all thing)
The other 2 i dont think is going to be fixed since its way more intentional than the first 2
I mean come on, we NEED Strength Build to be viable, especially when its Berserker Barbarian
Pretty sure you can even throw Javelin Twice thanks to Berserker Rage, but it IS funnier to see a Goblin gets yeeted to a Ogre and both of them dies
This was a lot of fun to watch, please more! :D
Nice video, looking forward for more!
Personally I felt the game is in “tutorial mode” in terms of encounter difficulty until around the time you hit lvl 3.
Also, you’ve got to check out Tavern brawler strength monk. Almost 100% hit chance, good damage and defence.
This is a lot of fun to watch. I would love to see more!
bro, i 100% support this becoming a series
Since my one buddy is raving about how great BG3 is, I'm glad to see some good footage of the multiplayer! Out of curiosity, what made you pick black dragonborn over the Blue Dragonborn for Big Kobold?
I used 5e logic. There's less creatures immune or resistant to acid overall in 5e. If it was thunder damage instead of lightning then I would pick blue. But overall it doesn't matter because Dragonborn sucks, That breath weapon is still bad. Also Dragonborns not getting darkvision will hurt me later on in the game.
The only reason why I picked Dragonborn was so I can play as myself. There's no mechanical benefit here. I just let the class do the heavy work instead.
@@PackTactics Thanks for the reply back! I kind of wish this game had the Fizban style dragonborn races in this game instead of the PHB dragonborn. The PHB dragonborn is easily one of the weaker races in 5E.
Dragonborn have some unique dialouge options and some npcs will treat you differently. I even got a dragonborn specific option while I was forking one of my companions. Nothing spectacular mechanically but they are athestically pleasing and have fun interactions in the world.
yeah, i similarly went with human for rp reasons, but gith is just objectively better for martial classes (proficiencies don't matter if your class has them anyway, so that's 1 free skill vs. multiple free skills AND invisible mage hand - which is stupidly good in this game - and other stuff). A shame there wasn't any real attempt to balance the races in this game, but whatever, class matters more anyway so its not that bit a deal.
@@XanderHarris1023 that is good to know. Thanks for letting me know.
I have never played a Baldur's Gate game, but am thinking of getting this one.
Fun video. I hope that we can see some more of this.
BG3 isn't like BG1 or BG2, BG3 is Divinity orginial sin's cousin
26:39 You can make it so dual wielding hand crossbows only fires one shot at a time. If you look at the crossbow image, and see the 4 blue boxes below that, clicking the blue box with the double swords will make it so you can fire each bolt individually (box will be a single sword now). Since the first bolt killed that goblin, you could have used the other bolt for a different goblin. Loved the video btw :)
I found out how to shoot one at a time later. Thank you btw!
@@PackTactics Nice. I figured you would have, but wanted to be sure (and in case others didn't know). I'm sure you're also aware that Thief Rogue gives an extra BA at level 3 which is just hilarious with 2 hand crossbows. Feels like you have a machine gun haha
@@PackTactics you also can switch between meele and range fo free, at least with bows and normal crossbow
@@VapeMomhow would thief rogue multiclassed with archery fighter would look? 6 shots at level 8?
@@danzansandeev6033 you'd get 4 shots per turn without using resources (action 2 attacks, 2 bonus actions for 2 more)
You could take it to 6 once per short rest with Action Surge
Or drink a potion of speed/get hasted and have 6 for basically a full combat
And you could add 3 lvls of gloomstalker to get another attack on the first round of combat
My favorite part was when Evelyn said "it's webbin' time" and then webbed all over those guys
Great video, guys! Only thing missing is Gator.
…and the best part is that you’re not pissing off any DMs!
bless the algo for showing me this video, you guys seem like a fun bunch and the channel seems cool!
My favorite part is when the spider crawled down using the ladder
This is super interesting! I am very exited to see more!
Kobold! Videos on optimised BG3 builds/parties would be dope.
Great video, love seeing you branching out into other content. Would love to see you cover some more game systems.
I love olive this! Been playing BG3 from the start and it's just an amazing game. Larian really buffed monk, thief get's a second bonus action at 3rd level, 5th lvl pacts for warlock all got buffed. So much more than that too. Honestly, I would love to see not only more of that fun group play, but eventually some optimization thoughts.
How is monk better?
Yeah, I also wanna know. I think Four Elements might have been re-tuned on the number of points everything costs, but mostly it seems like they're just better because 1) a lot of enemies use bows and 2) you take 2 short rests almost every day.
8:00 You can use an action to wildshape as moondruid, the 5e RAW rules say "You gain the ability to wildshape as a bonus action", meaning you get a second one. Same with this game. You can use the action-wildshape button or the bonus-action-wildshape button. Big fan how bg3 handles druid wildshapes, too. Few, but powerful with specific features. Much more fun than just magic-cheesing it or being a worse fighter while your "temp hp" last.
This is the first video I've ever seen by you folks! Y'all's team dynamic and shenanigans had me cackling fr
4x Spider-Man meta.
Nothing will remain unwebbed
I hope we see more videos of this.
thank you for sharing! the video was fun to follow from a perspective of 5e optimisation.
Spider meta spider meta spider meta spider meta
16:13 I believe they used to be Monstrosities in BG3 too, talk with animals would work but animal friendship or such spells wouldn't, which confused new players.
I do understand the monstrosity tag, but I can also understand how confusing it is for newbies too: on first glance, it is just a fantasy beast.
Damn, I would love a series on this, holy shit. Subbed
Please make more of this 🎉 and also more commentaries/ explanations to builds and the combat tactics 😊
Go ahead and keep the BG3 videos coming!
I think they're trying to reclass owlbears as beasts nowadays because of how iconic they are to the franchise. The film from last year had Doric use an owlbear as her main wild shape form and with BG3 changing them to beasts allowing druid here to do the same, I wouldn't be surprised if come OneDnD they get fully reclassed to a beast.
Oh this was very fun!
I, too, am in the 'Lae'zel didn't say please' camp. Also, fighter dips exist... Looking forward to the next instalment *fingers crossed*
Any full caster X/Wizard 1 seems to be the current meta. Ideally it's a non-arcane caster for variety. You can learn all Wizard spells through reading, and the game uses your highest spell slot level to determine what level of Wizard spell you can learn. You get access to the entire spell list of any caster + Wizard list this way.
Really loved the optimization insights!
Hope to see more of this in the future!
This was awesome, would love to see more of it!
Great video, guys! Only thing missing was Gator.
I need so much more of you folks playing the game! 😂💯🤘
Teching wildheart barb on the spiders builds might be crazy, at level 6 you can get animal aspect wolverine which maims (reduces speed to 0 till healed) for 1 turn, and with spider inflicting poison alongside ranged attacks it might be good, negatives are spiders innately having web and needing half your total levels for it.
This was amazing to see
this was amazing!! please do more!!!!!
First off, I love the "Big Kobold" is a dragonborn. Wait till you get your first encounter with kobolds, it's super fun. Yes, use fire when you meet them, trust me, it's more entertaining that way. Just make sure you're standing back when the whole room of drunk Kobolds explodes, ok? Also, I think WotC sorta soft-retconned owlbears into being animals, or at least being animals and monstrosities cause in the Honor Among Thieves movie the Druid could wildshape into an Owlbear. So like, I'd say screw it and just count Owlbears as both in my home games at this point even if there isn't an official errata change for Owlbears yet. Obviously they're "animal" enough to count for wildshape and speak with animals.
So, Thief Rogue gives you an extra Bonus Action to use whenever.
Which really boosts dual welding.
Absolutely would love to see more content like this
2 minutes in and we already know kobold's name is Brian.
Kobold lore intensifies!
Unless Evelyn big brained us and deliberately called you a fake name, but I dont think thats likely
You saying Evelyn ISN'T big brain? You insult us ;)
Repelling blast really put in some work.
This is my ideal way to stream this game….With actually Pros who tackle challenges with cold efficiency with a light teaching touch
I remembered struggling with that last encounter, was running Solo PC with the Barbarian, Fighter and Warlock as backup. Not enough where I needed to Death Roll, but ate through a lot of resources. Was enough that I needed to consider respecing some of my Sorcerers stats to better work around some of his weaknesses
Thanks for playing the game kobold you gave us some really good ideas!!
Absolute S tier video, also, I love Czepeku and have been using their maps every week since COVID sent my group scattering to online 😢
im going to need that spider druid build, thats awesome.
the tips in your vid are very useful. hope to see more of those
Loved this! Please do more!
THIS WAS AMAZING!!!
Baldur's Gate 3. Where Jump is good, and everyone can be Obi-Wan Kenobi ("It's over! I have the high ground!").
When I realized Jump was ritual I was so happy. My ranger is going to have great fun with it especially later on when I multiclass to thief for the extra bonus action and have athlete. Nothing will escape my little forest gnome!
Looked like a lot of fun. Really enjoyed watching.
The Owlbear did warn you not to step out of line, and what's one of the biggest rules when it comes to bear cubs and their babies? Don't approach the babies. But I do find it frustrating as you are right, Owlbears aren't beasts... Still. Free baby owlbear (if you play right).
I am actually considering using some of the rule changes. Things like bonus action shove and +2/-2 for high and low ground is also pretty cool. The solution for Beserker where the exhaustion only lasts for the duration of the rage is also cool.
And you can get an item where you get bonus health when ending rage voluntarily. Which most barbarians would never do, but a berserker might to reset their debuff stacks.
I love Larian studios and have been so excited for Baldur's gate! but I've never played dnd. Its really interesting seeing the little comments about differences between Baldur's gate and dnd 5e.
Good video! Looking forward to more BG3 content.
Do you think melee is just not worth it compared to ranged? Your combats certainly make a case for that.
Would be silly to bring melee fighters with webs everywhere and imagine being the only one...
Their whole strategy revolves around making fun of melee opposition.
If you're planning around a melee focused party, it can be really effective too.
But if you start bringing aoe magic with little care for your melee... It all comes down to what you want to do, but with thought and preparation.
Fireblast the oil barrel to instantly win the fight at 8:00. Classic Divinity OS trick.
This is the video I was waiting for bg3. Tell us all the differences from 5e and let's break the game open boysss
subscribed! this looks like a fun series
So many webs. Meanwhile, I’m just gonna be a GOOlock with the Speak with Animals invocation because that does unlock quite a bit of content, as far as I have heard.
All the tips and pointers in text, in the middle of goofballs going around ruining the world, this is awesome!
good stuff, i feel the game coame at a perfect time where there is not much happening with 5e cause were all waiting for the next edition
in the unlikely case that you get bored of speedrunning BG3, I would really like to see you guys tackle Solasta
that poor owlbear didnt deserve that :( nor did the cub ;-;
make a seriess!!!! i wwouldd like to see more