'Drowning in Sorrow' Someone They Knew with Tamron Hall
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2024
- SOMEONE THEY KNEW w/ Tamron Hall E12 'Drowning in Sorrow' | Mark Richards had been paralyzed in a car accident. His live-in caregiver, Gloria Guzman, had also been his wife. When she called 911 to report that Richards had drowned in his bath, paramedics were suspicious. Did Guzman let Richards drown?
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I was paralyzed from the waist down There would be no way that I could raise my legs like that on my own. She had to put her arm under his knees! Guilty!😅
props to the defense attorneys for being such great advocates. impressive work
Yeah, you don't see that every day.
Never talk to the police NEVER, unless your attorney is present!
Absolutely these days you are guilty off the rip & u have to prove your innocence & like they say what you say can be used against u & they will do that & twist ur words they say if ur not guilty u don't need an attorney bit that's the old days
Correct
Even with your attorney present, it may be safer for anyone- I MEAN ANYONE AND EVERYONE to say absolutely nothing! These corrupt cops will convict you before the jury even gets a chance to hear/see your taped interview!
100% Doesn't matter if you're guilty, not guilty, under arrest, not under arrest, they say we need your statement and then you can go home etc. Whatever it is. Lawyer. I hate when people say " It makes people look guilty asking for a lawyer".
even then... just let your attorney chat with cops .. never ever yo u
Tamron Hall is always so beautiful & such a class act! 💝 Love her commentary & how she allows the stories to unfold naturally. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
It’s disgusting how some DA’s try to throw innocent people in jail for life without thinking twice about it. They just want a win on their scorecard
*DAs
Yep, I find DAs to be more manipulative and dishonest than defense attorneys. They work for the state and government soooo...enough said.
@@January.
OMG, you've changed the world. 🙄
@@danni1993 Thanks for your pithy comment. Your mother must be proud.
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I hate drug addiction but I wouldn't toss the key on someone's life. It was an accident, I really believe that. She took care of him. I believe she loved him.She will forever pay for her mistakes.God bless her and I hope she gets the guidance she needs. RIP to her friend.
I am in recovery. I follow true crime so I know all types of people kill for money and also have killed for a lot less. I can say myself when in active addiction, you can get desperate but I have never crossed that line while others have. Whether it was an accident or intentional, I don't think it had anything to do with her being an addict. It has to do with the mental capacity of a person. But I do think it was an accident and just don't think her using drugs had anything to do with it. It could have happened to anyone who doesn't use drugs.
Negligent homicide. The law doesn't care if you meant to or not
drugs! not hugs
I am so glad of the outcome, and the time she served appears to have done her good, and I do hope she stays clean.
Can you imagine taking care of a man 24/7. 365 days a year. Then they have to get divorced because of the finances. I’d start using drugs too. This couple needed professional help every day.
But she was in that profession before they met. She was very aware of what it took to help him 24/7. But on meth, dealing with anything, plus decision making, is nill.
marriage sucks all the way around.. smfh
I really like the judge on this case! And the defense attorneys.
I can’t imagine how hard it was for her doing all for mark on her own, especially lifting him. I think she cared.
Cop: I have a quick question....
Citizen: Abject silence. Total silence. Not a single word.
Bless her heart and thank God the prosecutors weren’t successful at destroying someone’s life.
if she is stupid enough to tale drugs.....she will destroy her OWN life....
This trial and arrest was ridiculous and a waste of time! We have dangerous murderers on the street and gang members and they prosecute this case!
NEVER talk to the police without an attorney
NEVER talk to the cops without a lawyer, NEVER!
That’s a lot of dodgy police practice. From no Mirandising, interviewing someone with meth still active in their system, interviewing someone still in the midst of their grief, and falsifying key parts of the transcript. Not saying that there wasn’t a degree of accountability on her part, but there was too much reasonable doubt raised on those less than ethical practices. Defense team did a great job here for their client.
Amazing work by the defense attorneys!
I feel so bad for her. After listening to the proof, I don't believe she killed him. She had no reason. She wasn't married to him anymore and if she had wanted, she could have simply left, packed her bags and left. I'm not sure he wanted to leave her.
I adore Tamron Hall is my kind woman when she presents any her program she nails it every time keep them coming, you are awesome Tamron.
SOOOO much easier to watch & listen to than Viveca A. Fox!!
Tamron does such a good job in telling these stories, she is very calm and respectfull to everyone involved regardless of their position..
This a good case. I’m so glad she got freed. We have inept people in police departments doing half-azz police work.
Lol
♥️ Tamron Hall. She delivers the story.
she always does a good job.
Reading off teleprompters is the cushiest job.
@@January. says a poster on youtube
@@elizabethantoine9652 Thanks for your pithy comment. Your mother must be proud.
They read the story they have spent countless days and hours preparing and then it’s uploaded so they are not shuffling through tons of paperwork. It’s the same for News Anchors.
Things happen and it is very hard to care for someone who is physically dependent for all their needs. We may never know but I would err on the side of innocence in this case.
Dirty cops,DA and medical examiner. Great defense attorneys and great outcome.
Wow, what a turn of events!! Amazing work done by the defense. 👏
I really like all the Court TV hosts. In this case, I'm glad Gloria got off without serving any more time than she already had. It's takes a pretty solid person to marry a person so dependent as Mark would be. The drugs were a terrible influence however. But I don't think it was intentional.
Justice was served. It amazes me how certain people are treated in our justice system compared to others. I've seen folks with undeniable evidence of guilt get better treatment than her.
Will we ever admit that the justice system is racist, classist and sexist?
And I've seen people just like her walk free after murdering someone.
Well, they were high on meth, so of course nothing could possibly go wrong .. case closed
Just another case of an innocent person being forced to plead guilty....
She didn’t plead guilty per se.”Guilty by way of Alford” means you’re not pleading guilty but acknowledging a jury might find you guilty. It’s basically “no contest.
@@grammichal6759 Thank you Captain Obvious.... I stand by what I said!
Just another....among about a dozen out of hundreds of thousands lol.
What kind of doctor calls an airway “airwaves”??
I recently heard a doctor say, "irregardless" mmmmmmk. 🙄
😂😂😂😂
Her lawyers did right by her & the judge did right by them both It was a tragedy but nothing she intended…..now maybe she can begin the grieving process. These detectives need to get their priorities straight! Their job is Not to try & see how many cases they can turn criminal or get convictions on, or How many ppl they can have locked up! Now There are some Outstanding Detectives out there & Thank God for em but Far far too few!
Correct verdict, imo.
Sad case.
Can't get enough of your hosting Tamron.
Remember, the Prison system, the courts, law enforcement are ALL CONSIDERED BUSINESSES NOW!!! What does a business NEED? CUSTOMERS!!!! In this " business", the customers are the those who get themselves in trouble AND those the business creates!!!! In this case, I believe she is innocent of murder. Involuntary or otherwise!!!!! But, the prosecution molds everything it can to prove one guilty and have thus... created a convict customer. More money for the system from another broken system.
I am not sure about the drug use having any part in it either, but also think it's possible. Doing man-made drugs or pharmaceuticals isn't good in the first place, but we really do not know if it made the situation. When you're in a panic, as she was, confusion sets in. Time is a blur. 5 minutes can feel like 10, or 2.
This case should have been dismissed as soon as they realized the transcripts were wrong!!! The prosecution should be ashamed. Fire the person that did the transcription!!!! Oh, and... The judge looks like a bum! A slob! WTF? SMH!
@CarleneSmaltz-xj6nd ????
Who's that woman chewing cud behind the defence attorney?!? Disrespectful.
Never ever talk to the police. Get a lawyer and let the police do their job. If they charge you go to court if they don’t charge you go on with your life.
I would not care if I was innocent I would not speak to police after a death or any crime.
He had substantial pain he could build up a tolerance for the medication.
I'm surprised she didn't take out life insurance on him.
I highly doubt he could get life insurance. The life span of a quadriplegic is usually pretty short. Most don’t live longer than 10 years after their injury.
I just loved it, when the Judge had an outburst of anger at the prosecutors: "What planet are you on? This is the United States of America." Costly. Who needs movies, when real life is so rich in details.
That's how cop's do it
I really love this show! I usually listen to each episode on the podcast but once in a while i like to see the ppl that are the subjects!
Thanks for keeping this show going!
Confusing. Avoid
Soaking in the bathtub probably helped him feel more or helped soothed the pain too. I have neuropathy and it helps me by soaking in the bathtub. I think it was an accident and Gloria needed a live in nurse for him. That’s just to much on one person to be a soul caregiver and it’s sad that they had to divorce just to get extra help for him. When I was with my ex husband I got less help with our daughter who had disabilities it’s shameful that we had to not live in the same home together with our children in order to get help with her. Even when he filed taxes once a year the state would take money out of our daughters check all year. He wouldn’t hardly pay the bills because he was a addict if not for our daughters check I wouldn’t have been able to pay bills and keep a roof over our childrens head.
Never heard of anyone overdosing on meth
You can by syringe
How is anything she said admissible if she hadn't been read her rights?? That's borderline corruption. My father was a lawyer and always said never talk to the police without a lawyer, its their job to prove your guilt it's not upto you to prove your innocence and nobody should be questioned when theyre high or drunk. I dont believe she murdered him.for 1 minute and I'm glad she was freed the poor woman will have to live with guilt for life and I hope she can forgive herself. I hope the police department and the DAs office were investigated. They use water as therapy for disabled people they float so they can fully relax because the water takes their weight and they don't feel pain.
Who ever fed the meth to the quadriplegic is guilty
This is why we need defence attorneys. People tend to hate them but i hope people start to appreciate them as they are very important
Cops and the prosecutor's office tanked any chance they had of a murder conviction with that lack of Miranda reading and going cheap with the transcription service used for the recording's transcript.
Still, I think her lawyers did her a disservice by not arguing that the second portion of the interrogation where she allegedly confessed should be inadmissible since it was obtained following the first interrogation that wasn't mirandized. The only reason they insisted she sign the waiver at that point was because of what she'd said prior to being read her right to remain silent. "Fruit of a poisonous tree," as they say.
Also, the one guy was right about a flimsy motive. If the husband was going to leave which would cut off her caretaker stipend, then killing him intentionally literally makes no sense as a motive. Once he's dead, and she's no longer married to him anyway, she's left with no caretaker money and no access to his social security like a legal spouse may be.
The cops and prosecutors made OJ Simpson levels of mistakes here. There's _no way_ I would've voted for conviction if I'm on that jury.
Thank you
The fact he was going to break up with her seals the deal, she did it.
Wish Her Well.
i think she would have won that trial.
They’re both meth addicts 🤦🏻♀️ omfg. That’s insanity. So glad he couldn’t impregnate her.
I’d love to know if he was under the influence when he had the car crash that paralyzed him.
How would she ever have gotten this man in or out of the tub?
Good and very interesting case
Never get out
Couldn't he speak/shout for help... I'm just curious. Tragic case.
Probably not if he was underwater…
@@MamacitaNaturalyes I thought about that but couldn't he tilt his head and shout out... Idk
Good on this judge! 💞
That’s to much on one person to be a soul caregiver, you need help or at least someone coming around to give a break.
Definitely. Caregiver burnout is real.
This mess sounds like the crazy scene in My Cousin Vinnie. "I shot the clerk" That whole "confession" should be thrown out.
Two druggies, they were killing themselves slowly.
Live this channel
At the very least, this woman is guilty of negligence. Doing drugs, helping him do drugs, getting him in the bathtub and leaving him unattended for nearly 20 minutes... And she had a child in the residence to boot.
I understand why she pled guilty but nonetheless this is very sad. I had a problem with her guilt right out the gate. Anyhow good case.
How did he even get in the bathtub? Did she place him there? He couldn't just step into it and lie down?
3:47 in the tub for hours?!
Coercion is NOT the way!
Her niece's parent should be held accountable for allowing the niece to be in the care of obvious drug addicts.
I feel sorry for Gloria, however this guy should have been in prolonged care
And who was going to pay for that?
They both did drugs together so I think it was just what she pleaded guilty for she didn’t know it was going to happen but it did and someone has to be responsible weather she meant to kill or not ,drugs is not excuse maybe she has learned to stop drugs… it could have been a kid she was watching anyone under her care
Its impossible to pick a man up out of a tub.
And to place him there?
I love your videos Tamron! Thank you...
"What planet are you from"?Great judge
There was no money involved, I think she was being careless, it wasn't intentional.
Did I see the judge chewing gum or was I hallucinating?
Between the overzealous cops, and the overzealous prosecutor that girl almost had life in prison
I just want to give Tamron Hall a foot massage, that's it.
That whole "Mirandizing" thing is highly suspect. It is used with people (like we're watching here) who are in horrendous mental, emotional, psychological, and drug/alcohol saturated brains, even MENTAL ILLNESS crisis.....and then they are asked: "Do you understand these rights?" I cry "foul" !!! When these folks either say"yes" or nod the head in the affirmative under such circumstances....they are doing it to "get this over with" in order to get on with whatever's coming next. Probably in a high percentage of cases people aren't even listening to what's being read....they are consumed with the trauma of the moment.
I don't believe that for one second, she did this intentionally. She had no motive to do it.
Is the judge chewing gum & talking at the same time???🤔
Some time the police becoming a criminal.
I think the sentence is fair. Using drugs is a choice and not a reason for a minor sentence. There was a lot going on in her life and him leaving her and by doing so leavingher without an income. She must have been desperate. But does that make you a killer? Only she knows. But by killing him there's also no income anymore.
What I think is weird is that people testifying that because there was nothing to support him in the bath means that she's guilty. Ofcourse she took everything out and emptied the bathtub; how could she've helped him otherwise ?
RIP MARK
😂😂😂👎
What an interesting case...
Old me wanna hug Tamron Hall when she is done and about to move.Who else?
I love Tamron fashion sense, she's so stylish!
@27:25 the autopsy report was definitely questionable, but @ 28:10, notice the Judge outburst, - 'damning' transcript said it all.
How did he get face down in the tub??
You don’t soak in a bathtub very often do you?…
I do and have a "soaking tub", but I don't lie face down. Maybe as a kid.
@@MamacitaNatural No one does that.
That smirk on her face tells me she got away and knows it!
Smirk? All I see is a woman relieved this nightmare is over.
@@DiddlyD-xx2ih you would...bet ur a liberal too huh?
When you’re from another country, don’t know the law or that they even have rights & then there’s also a language barrier. These slime detectives know all this and use it against them by means of pressure and intimidation.
It is every foreigner’s responsibility to learn the language and law of the country they reside in. No excuses! So this type of nonsense won’t happen. Moreso,the ignorant citizens who barely know the laws of the same country.
Who was from another country?
@Josy084 you so called citizens don't know the law too.
How did she lift him on all.other occasions? There had to be more than one occasion than the once before is death where she had trouble lifting him. Why didn't he have some of the most basic equipment that disabled people tend to have in their homes?
2005 we don’t know what was available, if they knew how to access it, if they qualified for things or anything really.
@@lilbitsleepy2574wouldn't they mention that here? I mean she placed him in the tub somehow?
No murder here, just Law Enforcement making something of nothing ... again
Absolutely no way to prove or disprove anything in this case. Therefore no case at all. End of story.
I know that police have a job to do, and they see terrible things. But when the homicide detectives go in assuming that the person is guilty, they have lost their objectivity. They should be looking at people with the assumption that they're innocent, then when evidence to the contrary comes up, they can make a note of it and investigate further. I believe these detectives were wildly overzealous, and assumed she was guilty before she spoke a word. Also, how ethical is it to question someone who is clearly not in their right mind?
My hope is that Gloria stayed clean in jail and stays clean now that she's out. Meth is a horrible drug, and it not only destroys people's lives; it destroys their brains. And the children of drug addicts are more likely to suffer abuse, if not from the parents, from people who are around the parents. I've seen too many people destroy everything when they use it.
This young woman never loved this man. Let's stop kidding ourselves. He was much much older and incapacitated in every way. Why would a 26 yo woman choose that life if she wasn't benefitting somehow? She was getting something out of it. A roof, money, etc. That's why she promptly divorced him to get state benefits. The things ppl do for money, smh. She's still amoral, and lucky she only got time served
That’s a big assumption. I have read of plenty of instances of couples who had to divorce for financial reasons. Single moms get more $ from the state than married couples do and I remember this couple who had to divorce after 60+ years so that she did not get his millions of dollars of medical debt to pay off. That was so sad to watch, it’s stuck with me for ages.
Transcriptionist's, is this what people's lives are on the line for? You have to be kidding me, that's the worst science out there, trying to make out what someone said in a room with no people is difficult sometimes, let alone ambulances, police, your in the back of police car being interrogated by detectives, not regular police, but detectives that practically had to pull her off of him crying her eyes out, really, she's Spanish, there are different dialects and accents, this is awful that juries actually believe this as evidence, this is B.S!
He’s a big man. How’d he roll over
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When these witness (specialist) are paid, they say anything (within reason) that attorneys want them to say! FACT... IT'S A GAME TO THE ATTORNEYS A MATTER OF WINNING...TO US IT IS OUR LIVES!!
She was Lucky to get away with this Sentence. To my Opinion she clearly had enough of him and was High on Meth which does not Help and again very LUCKY111111111111111
If there was no drugs involved, then both was safe!