Ya. It pisses me the hell right off that they are not used for the Excursion services. Something must be wrong with them and the DD40 because none of them are used.
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@@sebastianfloyd372 a new owner based in Silvis, IL is now restoring the 3985 to operation. It left the UP roundhouse in November 2022, along with multiple other members of the heritage fleet.
Thanks for making this without annoying music and silly narrative. A real railfan doesn't need that nonsense. Just show me the shop and the trains. This was almost better than going there because I could relax in my easy chair and play the parts I missed over again. 👍👍👍
Looks like you were there on the Sunday. I was there on the Saturday when the weather wasn’t nearly as pleasant. But, having made the trip all the way from Australia for this event, I wasn’t going to let a freezing cold, wet miserable day (certainly by Sydney standards) get in the way. Seeing all these iconic UP locomotives up close was a childhood dream come true for me. Hope to make it back again soon to see 4014 in steam rather than in pieces. Thanks for posting this video. It’s a great supplement to my photos.
I understand your predicament. I'm always grateful to those that record videos at a louder level, speak reasonsbly slow and clearly as I have profound hearing loss. A hearing aid helps me, but that's not genuine human hearing.
Great video. Long elaborate and detailed shots of those magnificent locomotives enables one to think how it all fits together. The Galaxy S9 plus on the smooth gimbal does a great job. Looking forward to seeing all those locomotives on the rails again. Thanks for posting.
Union Pacific has a fine collection of old locomotives and cabooses. It is too bad that I am as far as in the Northeast unable to be in the roundhouse. Also, it was nice to see that those locomotives are in pristine condition. Nick, you did a very nice video catch of the inside of Union Pacific, even though several areas were closed to touring.
@@NicksCollectableCreations honey it's not just a pokie channel; it's your love so this is going to be a channel that continues to grow. Keep the train passion.
Last time I was here, I delivered 4 new traction motors for EMD locomotives. Got to have a free lunch their on the 4th of July. A nice young lady served me the best BBQ chicken I have ever had and the tator salad would knock your socks off. UP has some great cooks with their staff.
DD40X 6600 horsepower two 645 V-16 E3 engines on a common under frame, E-9 last built in the early 60's two V-12 567D engines 2400 total horsepower, Challenger 4-6-6-4 3985 soft coal burning originally now burns bio diesel or diesel fuel, 6500 horsepower and finally the Big Boy 4-8-8-4 originally soft coal burning now burns oil exactly like the challenger, 7000 horsepower one of 25 locomotives built and the only one of 8 remaining to be rebuilt to service. The other big boys will remain static displays. When I ran Amtrak trains in the mid 70's we had two ex UP E-9's that were regular power on the Montrealer from New Haven, Connecticut to Montreal, Canada equipped with two 645 engines and the electrical systems were completely rebuilt by the UP still equipped with two ok 2225 steam generators. They were in far batter condition then the other E-8's and a Few E-7's we had. Geared for 117 mph they were great locomotives, approaching Hartford, Ct. One morning had an alarm bell sound off, I went back to see what was wrong and found three of the 4 engines dead, out of fuel. I immediately killed both steam generators then hightailed it to the cab to tell the engineer we had to stop and run for fuel with the engines or we were going to run out. Where he asked? Hartford tower I replied and back through the tunnel into the freight yard then the fuel pad. The last engine died just as we rolled onto the fuel pad at 10 mph. After fueling and refilling both engines with water went back onto the main and went back to our train hooked up turned the steam back on and when we stopped at Hartford station the car department was there with number 50 size propane burners to thaw out the ice from the condensate drains. Having 18 cars it took close to an hour before heat was restored to the entire train. We found out several days later the Central Vermont railroad failed to fuel and water her the night she ran out. We normally arrived at New Haven around 5 AM, that morning we didn't get to New Haven till after 10 AM. It was an interesting and cold night ( -5 below zero ) and the E units heat the cab with steam from the steam heat line. Seeing as the UP now uses 480 volt 3 phase electricity to supply heat light and air conditioning to the train I suspect cab heat is now provided from the low voltage system on the locomotive.
Thought I saw a faded Chicago and Northwestern "Executive" F unit in this clip. I had seen a video of these units being towed in a Union Pacific freight not long after C&NW became part of Union Pacific. Some were scrapped, I think. What a shame. They should've kept them all. Wonder what became of the unit on the lot? Hope it wasn't being cannibalized as a parts engine. Once those classics are gone - they're gone!
Nice job. Seeing some of the greatest locomotives ever built! And in the same roundhouse! DDA40X! 3985! 5511! 838! And E9As 951& 949! Are they restoring 838 and 5511 to run again?!
No they won’t. 838 has been stripped of all usable parts, and 5511 is too big for high-speed operations. I imagine 838 getting scrapped after all usable parts are gone, and 5511 getting donated to some museum.
UP should cosmetically restore CNW 401 and that Rock Island Caboose and send them to the museum in Oelwein IA. Would be better there getting some attention than none at all sitting in the hot Cheyenne Sun
838 is a spare parts source and will not be restored. Too expensive to fabricate parts. 5511 is rumored to be donated to a museum in the future, but they need to find a suitable home and also needs to truck it over. 3985 was retired in January 2020 but is being stored for the future.
Update as of 2022 UP 5511, Challenger 3985, DDA40X 6936 and other equipment will be donated to the Railroading Heritage of Midwest America non profit based in the old NRE shops in Silvis Illinois. Go to the Railroading Heritage of Midwest America’s site to find out more.
super video. thanks for posting your time spent there. So do they do tours every day or only on certain days? I would love to get there and ya that is a full day trip. but I am from Ontario, Canada. so it will be a bit of a drive to get there. any place I can find more information on the tours. days open to public. days they think some of the loco's will be running under their own power?
The steam crew only opens up the shop and roundhouse one weekend a year, usually the third weekend of May. There is also a train show which the local club organizes with layouts and vendors. I've have every tour since 2012 on this channel. I expect next year will be huge since 4014 will be finished by then. The main website for the event is www.cheyennedepotmuseum.org/depot-days
Wait! What if you have big boy 4014 at the front and then behind it would be the dda40x and then the rest of the train and finally the modern loco at the back. Most powerful steam, most powerful diesel behind steam, train, today diesel like past to present
They announced it was retired late last year. When they finally had a chance to get a good look at it, they discovered it was in worse shape than 4014 (before its restoration). Deferred maintenance will do that to any piece of equipment. They also discovered improper boiler patches made with unapproved material. In other words, it shouldn't have even made its final run in 2010.
I have no idea. It has been removed from the roster of locomotives for the heritage fleet. Eds official statement when asked was that 3985 was undergoing it's government mandated boiler inspection but none of my tours of the roundhouse did it ever appear to be in a state of inspection. I go back to 2012 on this channel of touring the steam shop and roundhouse and you can see it is in the same state every year. Looks like dead storage to me. People don't like when I say that and tell me I don't know anything. But then after the Big Boy was put into service, 3985 was removed from the roster and it's tender used for the Big Boy so... I've read over the years before Big Boy was announced or rumored that Ed has stated to people he didn't like 3985 and it would never run again under his management of the program. Whatever the reason is, he stated during the rebuilding of Big Boy that 3985 was slated to undergo a similar rebuild after Big Boy, but that has not happened to my knowledge. Sadly it does not look like they will be opening the 2 buildings to the public this year either so I can't get a look at the state of things.
They’re donating it to a museum, along with the challenger and another locomotive. UP is one of the few railroads left that still runs classic equipment. I think they’ve gone cheap.
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This is why I rather than Museum make the video not the tourist, because the tourist focuses too much on random things without giving any detail, because they can't, while spending as much time filming to keep it as a memory not actually as a documentation. The museum on the other hand has to document everything and keep it short to 10 or 15 minutes, which means that only the most important highlights are going to be talked about, it also means you're not going to get the person use filming focusing on single random areas or focusing on the same area for longer than 15 seconds. This is the problem with somebody's vacation video that they filmed at the Museum, then uploaded on UA-cam and then upload. On UA-cam nobody cares about that shit. They'd rather see the actual videos by the museum then by people walking through it, however the same cannot be said when somebody is riding one of these trains and filming it.
@@davidng2336 That decision was made for him. The steam budget was cut a bit, 3985 needed even more work for restoration than 4014, and they decided they could really only keep two locomotives maintained at the level they want for operation.
Yes, as is the E. They are not equipped with PTC yet so they have just been mothballed. Nothing major wrong with them. But once time and money permits they will be equipped, tested and back on the rails. Without PTC they cant lead a train.
I’m so glad the engines are kept looking shiny and new. History is important to preserve
True
That EMD E9 is absolutely gorgeous. The E series locomotives are my absolute favorite...I had a model railroad as a kid with EMD locos. Beautiful!
Ya. It pisses me the hell right off that they are not used for the Excursion services. Something must be wrong with them and the DD40 because none of them are used.
I grew up next to a Union Pacific train yard but nothing like this. This is Awesome ! Thanks for sharing.
Sharing your video Nick! I have walked around here many times years past! I am truly blessed indeed and thankful for our USA 🇺🇸 and Cheyenne Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 history! WhoootWhooooot! Gold Spike family too ! UP8444 and 4004 was my old play ground set in Cheyenne Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 1960 and 70’s a Cold War
Hopefully the Roundhouse will be open to the public this year so we can see if anything is new!
Nick's Collectible Creations I wonder when will UP 3985 will run again
@@sebastianfloyd372 a new owner based in Silvis, IL is now restoring the 3985 to operation. It left the UP roundhouse in November 2022, along with multiple other members of the heritage fleet.
Thanks for making this without annoying music and silly narrative. A real railfan doesn't need that nonsense. Just show me the shop and the trains. This was almost better than going there because I could relax in my easy chair and play the parts I missed over again. 👍👍👍
Looks like you were there on the Sunday. I was there on the Saturday when the weather wasn’t nearly as pleasant. But, having made the trip all the way from Australia for this event, I wasn’t going to let a freezing cold, wet miserable day (certainly by Sydney standards) get in the way. Seeing all these iconic UP locomotives up close was a childhood dream come true for me. Hope to make it back again soon to see 4014 in steam rather than in pieces. Thanks for posting this video. It’s a great supplement to my photos.
That 949 is a real beauty, and I'm glad they were able to put the steam engines in the building, too!
Wonderful video. You went slow enough,so that someone like me, with low vision, could focus on your wonderful shots. Thanks.
I understand your predicament. I'm always grateful to those that record videos at a louder level, speak reasonsbly slow and clearly as I have profound hearing loss. A hearing aid helps me, but that's not genuine human hearing.
Great video. Long elaborate and detailed shots of those magnificent locomotives enables one to think how it all fits together. The Galaxy S9 plus on the smooth gimbal does a great job. Looking forward to seeing all those locomotives on the rails again. Thanks for posting.
The camera in my LG G-8 really makes this video almost 3-D.UNREAL!.
Excellent video!!.
Fascinating thank you I like the slow moving cam guy very good for pause and zoom
It’s amazing how much the 3985 has rusted since it’s last ride in 2010.
That’s under the boiler jacketing
Union Pacific has a fine collection of old locomotives and cabooses. It is too bad that I am as far as in the Northeast unable to be in the roundhouse. Also, it was nice to see that those locomotives are in pristine condition. Nick, you did a very nice video catch of the inside of Union Pacific, even though several areas were closed to touring.
I like how you take your time with your panning on this video. What a yellow B-E-A-U-T-Y! Looks like the internet train.
Thanks sweetie. Love seeing you stop by my pokie little train channel.
@@NicksCollectableCreations honey it's not just a pokie channel; it's your love so this is going to be a channel that continues to grow. Keep the train passion.
Really enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing.
Last time I was here, I delivered 4 new traction motors for EMD locomotives. Got to have a free lunch their on the 4th of July. A nice young lady served me the best BBQ chicken I have ever had and the tator salad would knock your socks off. UP has some great cooks with their staff.
That sure is interesting to know
DD40X 6600 horsepower two 645 V-16 E3 engines on a common under frame, E-9 last built in the early 60's two V-12 567D engines 2400 total horsepower, Challenger 4-6-6-4 3985 soft coal burning originally now burns bio diesel or diesel fuel, 6500 horsepower and finally the Big Boy 4-8-8-4 originally soft coal burning now burns oil exactly like the challenger, 7000 horsepower one of 25 locomotives built and the only one of 8 remaining to be rebuilt to service. The other big boys will remain static displays.
When I ran Amtrak trains in the mid 70's we had two ex UP E-9's that were regular power on the Montrealer from New Haven, Connecticut to Montreal, Canada equipped with two 645 engines and the electrical systems were completely rebuilt by the UP still equipped with two ok 2225 steam generators. They were in far batter condition then the other E-8's and a Few E-7's we had.
Geared for 117 mph they were great locomotives, approaching Hartford, Ct. One morning had an alarm bell sound off, I went back to see what was wrong and found three of the 4 engines dead, out of fuel. I immediately killed both steam generators then hightailed it to the cab to tell the engineer we had to stop and run for fuel with the engines or we were going to run out. Where he asked? Hartford tower I replied and back through the tunnel into the freight yard then the fuel pad. The last engine died just as we rolled onto the fuel pad at 10 mph. After fueling and refilling both engines with water went back onto the main and went back to our train hooked up turned the steam back on and when we stopped at Hartford station the car department was there with number 50 size propane burners to thaw out the ice from the condensate drains. Having 18 cars it took close to an hour before heat was restored to the entire train. We found out several days later the Central Vermont railroad failed to fuel and water her the night she ran out. We normally arrived at New Haven around 5 AM, that morning we didn't get to New Haven till after 10 AM.
It was an interesting and cold night ( -5 below zero ) and the E units heat the cab with steam from the steam heat line. Seeing as the UP now uses 480 volt 3 phase electricity to supply heat light and air conditioning to the train I suspect cab heat is now provided from the low voltage system on the locomotive.
The Centennial does NOT need wings nor the K3 horn.
My late dad built the DD40 turbos at Allison Gas Turbines in Indianapolis, IN.
Thought I saw a faded Chicago and Northwestern "Executive" F unit in this clip. I had seen a video of these units being towed in a Union Pacific freight not long after C&NW became part of Union Pacific. Some were scrapped, I think. What a shame. They should've kept them all. Wonder what became of the unit on the lot? Hope it wasn't being cannibalized as a parts engine. Once those classics are gone - they're gone!
Yeah that’s pretty cool
Nothing like the Union Pacific color scheme, that's why I chose to model it in HO scale.
Thank you
Optimal Information without stupid narration! Thanks, from Germany
Thanks for your support! I have a lot of videos on the Round House and Steam Shop if you are interested in browsing.
Very nicely done! Hope to visit on my own some day. Thank you.
Nice job. Seeing some of the greatest locomotives ever built! And in the same roundhouse! DDA40X! 3985! 5511! 838! And E9As 951& 949! Are they restoring 838 and 5511 to run again?!
No they won’t. 838 has been stripped of all usable parts, and 5511 is too big for high-speed operations. I imagine 838 getting scrapped after all usable parts are gone, and 5511 getting donated to some museum.
I’ve heard that 5511 is going to the Evanston roundhouse. But I have no idea if that’s true or not
@@pat370 They want to donate 5511 if they can find a suitable location for it.
UP should cosmetically restore CNW 401 and that Rock Island Caboose and send them to the museum in Oelwein IA. Would be better there getting some attention than none at all sitting in the hot Cheyenne Sun
I like That big tanker hook up to that red boxcar does any 1 know,what it is used for.
If you’re talking about the one at 2:54, that’s a fuel tender from one of the old turbine locomotives.
Awesome tour! Please tell em they’re restoring the steam engines.
838 is a spare parts source and will not be restored. Too expensive to fabricate parts. 5511 is rumored to be donated to a museum in the future, but they need to find a suitable home and also needs to truck it over. 3985 was retired in January 2020 but is being stored for the future.
I wonder if Steve ever visits the depot from time to time even in retirement
That turbine locomotive looks good from the outside. The last time I saw the inside it looked like a tornado hit it
Update as of 2022 UP 5511, Challenger 3985, DDA40X 6936 and other equipment will be donated to the Railroading Heritage of Midwest America non profit based in the old NRE shops in Silvis Illinois. Go to the Railroading Heritage of Midwest America’s site to find out more.
Ya. I know. Got that email last Wednesday. I for one am not happy about it.
They need to restore those steamers
Such grace and glory
Hermosas Maquinas, gracias por compartir.
super video. thanks for posting your time spent there.
So do they do tours every day or only on certain days? I would love to get there and ya that is a full day trip. but I am from Ontario, Canada. so it will be a bit of a drive to get there. any place I can find more information on the tours. days open to public. days they think some of the loco's will be running under their own power?
The steam crew only opens up the shop and roundhouse one weekend a year, usually the third weekend of May. There is also a train show which the local club organizes with layouts and vendors. I've have every tour since 2012 on this channel. I expect next year will be huge since 4014 will be finished by then. The main website for the event is www.cheyennedepotmuseum.org/depot-days
Got a question folks can you explain when and why the silver trucks came to be tia?
2:09 is that a GTE tender
UP has another FEF #838 hint to another #844 tipe loco sweet consists?
No she's being used for spare parts
Wait! What if you have big boy 4014 at the front and then behind it would be the dda40x and then the rest of the train and finally the modern loco at the back. Most powerful steam, most powerful diesel behind steam, train, today diesel like past to present
That would be sick!!!!
What a second where was the 844 at the time I didn’t see it in the round house
Do you think the Challenger will get well soon and be back in service now that they got Big Boy restoration finished?
They announced it was retired late last year. When they finally had a chance to get a good look at it, they discovered it was in worse shape than 4014 (before its restoration). Deferred maintenance will do that to any piece of equipment. They also discovered improper boiler patches made with unapproved material. In other words, it shouldn't have even made its final run in 2010.
The 3985 is now in a new home in Silvis, IL.
Nice footage.
The car that is labeled UP 903029. What type of car is it?
That's a tender from the turbine days
The tender was used to carry coal that would be fed into the furnace of the locomotive, also called the steam engine.
Would somebody shut that kid up! Sheesh, take it outside.
Thank you for saying it! People are just dumb...
It's not a private showing. He should be allowed in there.
Kids like trains.. get over it.. you probably sound worse.
why dont they use 6936 more often? parts?
What’s the story with the CNW F7 sitting
Inherited by the UP after the CNW merger
Why does up not run 6936 and the stream liners anymore?
Probably too focused on Big Boy.
Any possibility for the Challenger 3985 to be restored?
It will come back. In a few years the BigBoy will need a rebuild and by then the Challenger will be back.
What's wrong with the dd40x 6936 why aren't they using her?
Been wondering that myself for years, not to mention the E9's.
@@NicksCollectableCreations I hope they get some action soon
Isn't 3985 undergoing maintenance for a cracked boiler? And if so...any ides when it will be back on the rails?
I have no idea. It has been removed from the roster of locomotives for the heritage fleet. Eds official statement when asked was that 3985 was undergoing it's government mandated boiler inspection but none of my tours of the roundhouse did it ever appear to be in a state of inspection. I go back to 2012 on this channel of touring the steam shop and roundhouse and you can see it is in the same state every year. Looks like dead storage to me. People don't like when I say that and tell me I don't know anything. But then after the Big Boy was put into service, 3985 was removed from the roster and it's tender used for the Big Boy so... I've read over the years before Big Boy was announced or rumored that Ed has stated to people he didn't like 3985 and it would never run again under his management of the program. Whatever the reason is, he stated during the rebuilding of Big Boy that 3985 was slated to undergo a similar rebuild after Big Boy, but that has not happened to my knowledge. Sadly it does not look like they will be opening the 2 buildings to the public this year either so I can't get a look at the state of things.
@@NicksCollectableCreations I ask because...well...wouldn't be absolutely fantastic to see 4014 AND 3985 back on the rails...together?????
@@NicksCollectableCreations They retired the 3985 in January 2020. Whatever happens to it is up to the crew.
I have read that 3985 would have to have a complete rebuild like 4014 had and that UP does not want to have to support 3 steam engines.
@@HughJassel76don’t think there’s any steam lovers in the board of directors or major stockholders😔
Wander if the challenger will ever be put back on the rails
Not according to Ed. I don't see any of this equipment being operated by the current steam crew. Even 844 has taken a back seat to the Big Boy.
2:25 why is there a tender connected to a boxcar?
I think that's a water tank car.
@@theshapeexists true but it looks like a tender
That’s a fuel tender from one of the old turbine locomotives.
@@adamburnes3655 interesting
Old Union Station train depot raid the gas plant in is the oooooz the engine still moves today
Will 5511 ever move again?
No, as far as I have been told over the years.
Im sure they at least take care of it. I read once they took it outside for display at some event a long time ago.
I wonder why UP 6936 Centennial hasn't run lately.
They’re donating it to a museum, along with the challenger and another locomotive. UP is one of the few railroads left that still runs classic equipment. I think they’ve gone cheap.
Has UP ever thought of restoring 2-10-2 5511
Not going to happen as the track limits nowadays would prevent such high-speed operations. I really think it should be donated a museum.
5511 had some vital parts destroyed.
the rigidity of 12 drivers would prevent use due to track wear.
5511 will never run again.
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I wish 3985 was running
That tender looks like it came off A gas turbine locomotive
It’s sad to see how 3985 is now :( looks so sad because 4014 stole its parts. 5511 and 838 also should be restored.
Those trains can move their not that old
This is why I rather than Museum make the video not the tourist, because the tourist focuses too much on random things without giving any detail, because they can't, while spending as much time filming to keep it as a memory not actually as a documentation. The museum on the other hand has to document everything and keep it short to 10 or 15 minutes, which means that only the most important highlights are going to be talked about, it also means you're not going to get the person use filming focusing on single random areas or focusing on the same area for longer than 15 seconds.
This is the problem with somebody's vacation video that they filmed at the Museum, then uploaded on UA-cam and then upload. On UA-cam nobody cares about that shit. They'd rather see the actual videos by the museum then by people walking through it, however the same cannot be said when somebody is riding one of these trains and filming it.
Will somebody shut the kid up, or punch his mom. SMH
Up 3most unappreciated steam engines 3985 5511 and 838
Well 3985 will be overhauled in 2020
DD40X 6944 Correct. Maybe even late 2019. 5511 should get donated.
@Union Pacific 3985 Unfortunately Ed has decided to retire 3985.
@@davidng2336 That decision was made for him. The steam budget was cut a bit, 3985 needed even more work for restoration than 4014, and they decided they could really only keep two locomotives maintained at the level they want for operation.
I turned the video off because I didn't want to hear that dam kid no more....
Couldn't figure out that MUTE feature huh?
You must have to leave stores quite often too.
the 3985 will be restored
Good luck with that.
Like train american
this sucks
It’s a tour video. Of course you won’t see anything in action.
Is 6936 still operational?
That has been my question for a few years now, along with the E units. I'm suspecting not but would love to be wrong
@@NicksCollectableCreations I hope it is
Yes, as is the E. They are not equipped with PTC yet so they have just been mothballed. Nothing major wrong with them. But once time and money permits they will be equipped, tested and back on the rails. Without PTC they cant lead a train.
@@FFred-us9tw ah ok