DF Retro: Resident Evil 2 - Classic Survival Horror - Every Version Analysed!
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Join John Linneman for a look back to the PlayStation classic, Resident Evil 2 - including footage of the canned RE 1.5 running on OG PlayStation hardware, plus detailed analysis of every single version. Oh - and look out for a special, Platinum-level cameo!
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Leon's pimp walk in the GBA demo version caught me off-guard
i lol so HARD when i saw that!
I like how John just says "the models all look and animate completely different than the original". Yeah, not ridiculous, not laughable, just "different". Haha
It's hilarious, but man was that an impressive demo for a GBA.
Looked more like Mr. McMahon’s strut to me.
He looks a bit like robocop to me...
This is one of my favourite channels. Cheers for the great content.
The Gunman jeers for this rusty tailgate
Lol, this is the randomest place i'd think to see a comment from you
Nice cars, bro.
Leon: It’s over
Claire: No. I have to find my brother.
Leon: You’re right. This is just the beginning.
He's probably suffering from short-term memory loss, like the guy in memento.
@@zigmar2 Nope, its girls man. They can do that sort of thing to men
Claire: No. I have to find my brother.
Leon: Oh.................... yeah you do that.
is what we always pretended Leon said when we were kids.
Thanks for the inclusion of Classic REbirth 2 in this episode! And for using properly all my gibberish technical explanation on how the engines work. :D Kudos and great work again on this retrospective.
Indeed, truly the best way to play the original RE2 in today's age, thanks for the hard work.
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Now that I'm aware of it, I'll definitely give it a try. Thanks DF retro for that, and thanks in advance to you for your incredible work !
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Your patch is the best. It has everything. Especially loving 240p mode. Pure pixelated experience.
Greetings from Raylight Games. Thank you for mentioning our work in the video. Appreciated, thanks
Is that the 'farty trumpet' music from the RE:DC Dualshock version I hear during the Tiger port section? Good choice!
the original music of that scene is so better in every way possible.
Clowns farting in the basement, yes.
Ah, the sound of people dying of terminal flatulence with trumpets glued to their arse.
It's called "Mansion Basement". It replaced the phenomenal "Narrow and Close". They also play it one more time for everyone at the end of this video.
Although this video is great, I just want to acknowledge youtuber Lotus Price and his original RE2 comparison video from a few years ago. It mostly deals with the content differences rather than graphics and performance, but it was the first well done RE2 comparison vid I’ve seen.
Yep, shout out to Lotus Prince, he did it first.
John should have won the content creator of the year awards 2018 :P
Who won tho?
@@sebastiangonzales46
Ninja...........
You mean Fortnite streamer of the year? Joking aside, really wish that category had a lot more diversity in terms of content creation.
@Subi_fan wrong
@Subi_fan That's sonixfox not ninja.
It's now time for a Remastered Dino Crisis.
Remake from the ground up...
Somebody please get this across to capcom.
Will891410 dino crisis 2 is the best graphics in ps1, it almost reach ps2 graphics standard,.. Dino crisis 2 showed what can ps1 can do even at the low spec..but at that time ps1 is the most power gaming device, powerful than pc at that time at early years of ps1.. They even market the ps1 as the most powerful console, powerful than the god..hahahaha the most embarrassing and stupid marketing strategy..I think dino crisis 2 release at the last lifecycle of the ps1
@@silentlyquiet8792 Capcom already posted on twitter that the might be interested in considering a DC remake if enough people want it. So there is chance that this will actually happen.
@@MrBenedick14 It was at no time close as powerfull as a good pc.
In 98 i was 16 and boy i was hyped for this game! Today im nearly as mutch hyped for the remake!
Same here!
Same.
I was 14, I remember playing Part 1 before and wasn't aware re2 was out, played it at m friends house and rushed to blockbuster and rented it lol those were the days man.
Was born in 99 but played em growing up on the ps2 through back compat
The amount of research and work that goes into these videos is incredible. Keep it up John! You work is a monument that will stand the test of time
No disrespect for the great work of others at DF, but John's DF retro analysis are my favourites. Great work as usual! 👍
No disrepect for other people's work on internet, but John's work is my favorite thing online.
I wouldn't want only one or the other, but I almost get as excited for DF Retro as for a new Ahoy video.
That N64 port was a masterpiece. The complete opposite of the common modern lazy port
Panic button wants a word.
Yeah.. funny thing is, in my memory it was far better looking than the PS1, except the cutscenes. I played both versions on the same CRT TV, about 5 or 6 months apart and when running the N64 version with expansion pack installed it kinda blew me away how cleaner and sharper the game looked. I guess this video favors the PS1 version due to modern LCDs we are watching this on.. but on my classic 29" CRT tube back in the day, the PS1 was all pixelated as any PS1 game with character meshes morphing all over the place, pixelated backgrounds and the blood splash of zombie bites or gun shots were that huge pixelated mess.. N64 version looked smooth and sharp at the same time.. The blurrier backgrounds only make it look more movie like and smooth in a CRT TV.. the character were incredibly crispy at 480i with better models and more stable without all the morphing. The cutscenes were the only downside that was immediately noticeable but I was happy to see them anyway. The compressed voices were not noticeable unless you compare them like John did here.
@@dariusthefactor i prefer the Dreamcast version over the GameCube one.
@@retroboy-fh1ji but in the end we all know the PC version is the best one
@@mainsmain As so often PC masterrace ponys make general statments why in this case the Dreamcast as well as the Gamecube version are superior to the original PC release. As well as the N64 version content wise, it even had an rng mode.
Can't wait for the remake
This is a very high quality Df retro! Thanks John! Since re2 and dmc5 are coming out soon I think now would be a great time to df retro the original devil may cry! It's still one of my favorite games.
Or just do a Devil May Cry feature only, as in the first game only, and nothing to do with the fact that a silly parody DMC game, DMC5, is on the way.
Yes!
This is crazy. It was my favorite game on N64. I used to run through it a couple of times in a weekend. I remember us running it beside the PS1 version at the time and, and have to say the CRT sure made them look closer haha.
The dev team put an incredible amount of effort into this, and they deserve this praise all these years later. Excellent video as usual!
Easily one of the best games from my childhood along with RE 3 Nemesis.
I agree.Nice to see you here
I was 27 when I first played it, and it doesn't get better than this (and the original RE)
I will always be surprised by the Nintendo 64 version of this game. Can´t wait for the remake on PC.
Also, Alex was a great guest selection for this video... and how did you get Kamiya to make a cameo? Woa!
Nice to see you here, man :) I like to watch your vids even though I have a good PC and PS4 Pro :D
@@elzabbul i feel like this is said on almost every video or comment he has.
@@nerp_47 I mean, I still appreciate it a ton.
On the channel "stop skeletons from fighting" there was a comment made by the developer explaning a bit about dynamic resolution.
Pretty much it is not only per scene but it also how many zombies and what type of zombies are on screen, he even say the reason the item menu is 240p because it did not scale well to 480i.
So yea they did put more effort than we imagened
@LowSpecGamer
Why were you suprised by the Nintendo 64 version ? The console was very Powerful at the Time have You ever seen Perfect Dark or Conkers Bad Fur Day ? These Games looked mindblowing when they just released.
I wish Capcom would remaster the PC Ports of Resident Evil 1, 2 and 3 on Steam. Similar to how Square Enix remastered Final Fantasy 7, 8 and 9.
My money would be on Night Dive Studios to work on the remasters
Yes! I'd buy them in a heartbeat!
Or GOG since they specialize on making older games run on modern hardware. Regardless, I would buy them in a heartbeat.
Capcom are the absolute masters of remasters! how in the world have they still not done so!?
I'd happily get them, even after the release of RE2 remake.
All those games are easily emulated. Also FF7, 8 and 9 "remastered" versions are pretty barebones, basically PSOne ports with worse music... If they gonna do that then no thanks, I don't want any lazy remasters.
Resident Evil 2 holds a special place in my heart. The first ever gaming magazine I bought was basically a walkthrough for the game. I poured over the pages every single day memorising everything. I even visited my friend's house to play the timed demo over and over. Then, I finally got the game Christmas 1998.
It was difficult, it scared me, and I loved it.
Same
My nephew also got the game that Christmas. Good times and frights were had.
Woo! So much new DF retro lately!
I wish they would do a spinoff channel for DF retro. I don't want to sub to the channel because I don't want 10 videos comparing the minute differences of on Xbox one x and ps4 pro every week
i feel you, i do enjoy some of the modern videos but i totally get where you're coming from!
Leon looks like he's gagging to drop a turd in the GBA prototype version! Imagine going through the hell of zombie infested Racoon City while you're touching cloth!
when i saw the way LEON was running at the first shot of the GBA version in this video..
DUDE, I LOLD SOOO HAAARD! hahaha
pure gold!no zombie would respect a guy like that lol! Cherry would BULLY him thats for sure :D
Virgin PS1 walk animation vs Chad GBA stride
Looks like he should sassily be saying, "Haters gonna hate, y'all!"
Great video, as always. Plus, that piece of music from RE Director's Cut with the farting clowns always makes me laugh! Thanks for including it
The fact that they got this onto an N64 cartridge speaks volume on the developers. Modern development could learn a lot from them instead of what we get nowadays.
These videos just get better and better. Excellent to see the work of Chris Hülsbeck highlighted, I'm a great fan of his. Also, I can't wait to play the RE2 remake, it looks like it's going to set a new high water mark for remakes in general.
I knew the N64 port was amazing but 9 people did this?? Mind blowing! thanks for sharing Df retro is the best history show for videogames!
The PlayStation classic that isn't even on the PlayStation Classic console. :/
because it would hurt sales of the remake.
@@karelpipa Fuck I would've gotten both tbh. This a great game.
karelpipa I just bought the GameCube version of re2 and re3.
Just hack the console and download it 😁
I love all of the channels content but I have to say the one series that I absolutely wait for and anticipate is DF retro! So nice after a long week of work to sit down on Sunday morning drink a hot cup of coffee and watch some of my favorite content on UA-cam keep up the great work guys & enjoy the holidays
Possibly my favourite show on UA-cam. Cheers, John, brilliant episode.
John, I wish I could imprison you in a basement somewhere and make you do nothing but videos analyzing ports of retro games. I could watch this shit all day, every day.
Thanks for pointing out the sound as well! Remember creeping downstairs and playing this on a Dolby Pro Logic II setup as a kid in the dark after hours, still gives me goosebumps!
Oh snap finally! been waiting for this one!
DF retro is now my favorite series.
I own every console version of RE2 but I love my Dreamcast version with the VMU life status.
This game was a breakthrough, and this episode got me pumped for the remake. The PS era was amazing, I just couldn't believe you could move around in a 3D environment in a videogame, it felt like a miracle compared to 2D gaming, even if some games were clunky and far from perfect it was just unbelievable. Watching the remake videos and its gorgeous graphics that today we take for granted it's quite impressive how technology and artistic work has evolved in gaming. RE2 graphics blew my mind back then, I think I might get the same feeling with remake, it makes the game more enjoyable when just looking at it puts a smile on your face.
As usual John your work is a complete masterpiece in itself. Cheers for the awesome video
What a video, that's why DF retro is the best series of youtube, RE2 is one of the best games of all time and had a huge mark in my life.
I was in middle school when RE2 came out. I wasn't allowed to play it but I remember talking about it with friends and reading as much about it from magazines. Every time the tv commercial aired my eyes were glued to the tv, "if the suspense doesn't kill you something else will"... I did eventually borrow the game from a friend 6 months after launch and played it at night while my parents were asleep.. good times good times.
Love this channel so much. Great content.
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Cant wait for the remake! My mom got this for me when it first came out when I was still in middle school. Thanks mom!
The love that RE2 keeps getting lately is so great! Always a loved game, I'm glad to see the series back in the limelight!
Ha, the strips mentioned in 10:10. I remember these, there were a ton of bugs in PC ports of PS1 games with prerendered backgrounds (FF7, RE1 etc.) where the 3D accelerator would actually "round down" the pixel count, causing a single vertical line of black pixels between strips when the backgrounds were filtered using hardware under certain configurations.
John Linneman is the best thing to happen in retro gaming, although watching these at 42 makes me feel so old :)
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You are old. Lose the kiddie pic, it's disturbing.
@@nathaniliescu4597 42 ain't old, 72 is. :V But yeah, lose the pic.
47 now
Love me some DF Retro on a Sunday afternoon
I was glued to my monitor the whole video, thanks so much for taking the time to revisit a classic!
When I saw you post work in progress on twitter I was so glad to see a video on this being finally made, seeing as there's been so many ports. I'd like to see more survival horror on DF retro, keep up the great work!
The new 2 will be a technicial showpiece as well. Capcom is really doing things right, love the company.
Fun fact: The N64 port of RE2 cost a Million Dollars to make.
Nonsense. It was undoubtedly more expensive than that.
Is that a lot for the time? Not sure from your statement if you mean it was cheap or expensive
Cheetos Ortiz It's about 4206900 dollars in todays market
@@adamkovacs4732 So cheap then? Still not sure of OP sentiment.
@@cheetosortiz2783 expensive for then
Damn, this video needs more views. Thanks for this Digital Foundry crew.
I play Resident Evil currently and wanted to play RE2 after it before the REmake2 comes out. Never really played RE2 so this video convinced me even more to play it.
Thank you guys for the content you create, please keep it up!
there's this guy who calls himself "Lotus Prince", he did a phenomenal comparison of all the versions. can this video live up to those standards? (Lotus probably spent a year making the video)
Imagine getting a game so packed full of content for $60 today. Two discs with two different characters, survivor mode with tons of secrets. No doubt if this game came out today all of that would be DLC.
The OST is in a special version of the RE Remake. THat pissed me off at first... grrrr.
i will cost me more money to have the true sound track wich is way better than the remake one. I wish this to be a standard thing so people can choose by themselves.
I never touched that RE6 garbage but even I know it had FOUR campaign modes, 2 playable characters across 3 or them and then Ada in her own, totaling 7. Try and make some sense and yes, I do consider RE6, a game from 2012, to be a game that "came out today" because Capcom still adopt the exact same garbage tactics today that they did back then.
Here is a shocker a lot of people might not know like yourself. The RE2 remake features the original game costumes for Leon and Claire............. and they are 100% unlockable in game. ??????????? Capcom must have had a stroke or something.
@@andrewsqual RE6 to me still amazes me on how bad that game is. Capcom mimic Micheal Bay's directing style to a tee.
Image today a company start a development of a game all over again because they are unsure of its quality.
I think if it was made today they be like "put it out as it the rest would be fixed with patches"
Those campaigns were shit and Adas was DLC
this might be the only long game analysis that i didn't hit right arrow key even once, so enjoyable to watch!
I love how much love and work goes into these videos. Thanks guys
if it came out in January 1998, it means they made 2 games in less than 2 years (1.5-version and the final version). compare to today's dev cycles!
Love DF Retro ! The Dreamcast port of Resident Evil 2 and RE3 are my favorites.
Resident ??? Evil??
The thing I love about resident Evil series is the soundtrack and cool characters. The menu music and save game music is so eerie and awesome at the same time.
This was one of the best DF Retro so far. Congrats John. I loved that you brought a guest to the vídeo and it would be great if you could continue with this trend. If possible, a little bit from the developers and a little bit from other fans to tell us a little bit of the impact of that game or some technical aspect interesting pointing out. Great show today.
This episode is OUTSTANDING!
Excellent video, John! Instant favourite like your MGS2 and Soul Reaver videos.And a huge thanks for showing people what Classic REbirth is!
now I can pretend to have known all these things myself.
Indeed! Very informative!
Flawless DF Retro here and the bit at the end was just the cherry on top. We're not worthy!
Hey, it's CVXFreak! His guides got me through many a hard time back in the day :D
... Where did that Kamiya footage came from?
Filmed for this episode. ;)
@@DigitalFoundry And you didn't get banned for being an insect? How?! I only asked him a legit question a year or two ago which he replied to and got banned!
@@DigitalFoundry Truly a man with Platinum excellence.
@@DigitalFoundry Holy shit.
@@Kannamoris Yeah, he can be kind of an ass on Twitter. He can ban you if you ask him monotonous questions he already answered before. But his contributions to the video game industry are why I still respect him to this day.
"Doo-de-doo-de-doo, what a beautiful day! Time to shoot me some zombies!" - Game Boy Advance Leon
I've said it befoeand I'll say it again - DF Retro is easily the best content this channel produces. Hands down.
I have seen twice this video. Excellent work!
Kamiya stated the reason why RE2 wouldn't run on the Sega Saturn. He put “Too Many Zombies”
It wasn't by that. The Saturn had stronger hardware than the PSX, so it isn't antes excuse for that cancellation. The true reason (i suppose) was due to the Dreamcast launch months after that, not hardware issues.
Best technical achievement award goes to the N64 version, hands down.
This, and Half Life 2 for Xbox.
I mean the gba being able to run re2 in its entirety is way to advanced but okay. Thatd your opinion.
Baka Uploads But the GBA couldn’t, it could run a small demo without any FMVs. Cramming that many backgrounds into a GBA cart would be fairly easily achievable, but even with the technology of today the FMVs simply wouldn’t fit. I mean... maybe... if they used the data storage like GBA video carts, it might be possible, but it would take a lot of work and would downgrade the game a lot.
Res evil ds ?
@@retroboy-fh1ji that's not even remotely close to re2 on n64. Xbox didn't have space constraints,on the contrary there was plenty of hdd space if needed, p3 level cpu performance and decent gpu. Like Doom3 ran beautifully on it. But compress about 1200mb data to 24. That's something absolutely next level and that hl2 running on xbox. Nothing compared to that. And yeah, I'm pc and xbox guy and dislike nintendo.
This episode of DF Retro felt like sipping on fine wine. Congratulations on another excellent episode. That being said, RE2 is on my top 5 favorite games of all time and this was such a treat.
This was excellent! Thank you so much for putting the time into producing this. I was such a huge RE2 fan when it released on PS1. ... I love hearing about the software and hardware details even though I really don't understand them. Rockstar West working with Assembly code commented in Japanese! Amazing! ... Looking forward to more DF Retro.
y'all need a netflix contract. DF Retro is top quality!
Please try to make people know these two more games: Parasite Eve 2 and Dino Crisis.
And maybe they can bring them back as remakes or new sagas.
dude...HAVING NO PARASITE EVE in PS2 was a HUGE TURN DOWN for me at that time.
Dino crisis was also a good game back in the day.
@@evilzinabyssranger5695 thats true. But with the sucess of RE 2 Remake already, there's a huge possibilty to bring them back, including RE 3 Nemesis. I hope .
I still play these games ^^
José Henrique parsite eve 2 doesnt hold up
Parasite Eve is the good one 2 sucks
I'm always ecstatic when I see a new episode of DF Retro. Kudos to John for his great work. Now to wait for the next episode.
Chris Hülsbeck the audio magician. He's the Hans Zimmer of video games.
Fantastic video! I was waiting for this one. Well worth it.
Just to point out, the N64 version apparently use full Mpeg (instead of the MJPEG PS1 does) using the power of the RCP coprocesssor to do the decoding job instead of the main CPU.
That allowed em to save a lot of extra space by saving the difference between the frames and motion vectors instead of just the raw frames as it's with the PS1.
The resolution switching between screen changes on the N64 version isn’t an issue with an UltraHDMI modded system. Completely seamless, at least on 2 TV sets I’ve used it on. Although, I think the image does shift very slightly from left to right depending on a 240p image or 480i image. Not noticeable unless you measure the black bars either side with a measuring tape.
Thanks for clarifying that information as I'm getting an ultra hdmi n64 I was worried after this video as Res 2 was one of my favourites on the n64 compared to the playstation
The music of this game still gives me goosebumps to this day.
Excellent video. RE2 was one of my favorite games growing up, thanks for made me think about it again
RE2make hype 🔥🔥🔥
Now my Sunday is complete.
Great vid. Resi 2 was the first horror game I played and loved it. Can't wait for the remake next month!
Been waiting over a year for RE2's DF Retro.
Soooo goood
I think the DreamCast version is the best overall (I love the VMU thing), but the N64 version will always be the one in my heart (and nightmares as a child)
I have no idea where I was or what I was doing on 9/11, but I’ll never forget the first time I played RE2.
Very nice! I remember playing the first and second RE on my PSX, but never finished them. I found them quite difficult :)
I've been waiting forever for this episode haha!! The remake footage is doing a great job of creating visuals on par with my childhood imagination of how the original felt. Super excited.
This is the greatest thing I've seen on UA-cam since Reagan lost the election.
Seriously, outstanding.
So does this mean the N64 version is the first console game to have dynamic resolution?
No, tons of early games used different resolutions for menus.
There's plenty Mega Drive and Super Nintendo games that do it too, mostly just higher resolutions in the menus though.
Yes you can call it that, a developer of the game did say how it calculate what resolution it will run on how many zombies and what type of zombies are on screen but the reason the item menu is 240p because it does not scale well to 480i.
No. The Xbox (2001) because John said that the game The Chronicles of Riddick Escape from Butcher Bay used that technique in-game for the first time in gaming history to free GPU resources and handle better graphics than anything on that consoles of the era. Its present as a fragment of the Wolfenstein 2 Switch version analysis.
First saw RE2 on my friends PS1, I was blown away by the fmv and graphics. I owned an N64 and couldn't imagine playing it on the N64. When it came out, for the N64, I played through it soon as I got it. It was an unforgettable experience, watching the fmv on an N64 was mind blowing.
I keep rewatching this and it's amazing. Re2 was my first real dip into the franchise.
With current data compression tech such as Ogg Vorbis, PNG and H265 the game could be squeezed into even smaller size.
Compression formats aren't a silver-bullet. OGG, PNG and H265 require a chunk of CPU time to decompress, I do not think these would have been a smart choice on something like the N64 (if they were available). I expect the developers went with the best options available to them at that time (which in the N64's case would have been make-your-own-N64-format).
The only reason OGG and PNG are acceptable these days is because we have powerful processors with lots of memory. H265 is a good candidate for modern hardware decoding, so that can even be offloaded these days.
HEVC is passion, HEVC is life. I compressed all my video files into this format. Lost no quality, but gained 2TB of space back. Now i want HEVC 2.0.....
@@eiszapfenderwutendenwinde3233 And you play all those video files on a N64 or very similar spec hardware?
Yeah, but try to decode H265 on the PS1 hardware and you set the thing on fire
Resident evil 2 in my opinion is one of the greatest horror games ever made. Don’t @ me
That is not a controversial opinion
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Fascinating stuff, 40 minutes just flew by watching this! The passion for these games really shows here. Love it.
Love the timing of the logos with the tempo of the music :D Nice touch.
Am I the only one that wants a full remake of Tenchu?
You're definitely not the only one
nice
I also really hope that an MGS3 episode is coming some day
My God I love these DF Retro documentary style videos. The only problem I have is that it was an extremely quick 37 minutes.
I love your passion. Hearing your voice come on with the music is just perfect. Like a guide through history. ❤️
After playing almost every version out there I can easily say the Dreamcast version is the best, closely followed by BioHazard 2 PC modded and on third is the excellent Gamecube version. Aside from those other versions are okayish as well :)
Why did you choose Dreamcast over PC?
IMO The PS1 will always be the best way to play RE2, as all the others seem to be judged by it's standard.
I had no idea that the SourceNext version existed, many thanks for another awesome episode! Many thanks!
I loved Resident Evil 2 on the N64, I must have played the game 12-13 times. Thank you so much for this comparison. I really appreciate the amazing work you do!!