Derek Barrett part 2
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- In this second chat with fitted furniture maker Derek Barrett at his workshop, he shows me the inner workings of an edgebander, demonstrates how it applies paintable edge banding to mdf, shows me the shaker doors he makes using a stuck on strips method, and more:
board storage carts on wheels
Festool HK 85 saw and it’s ability to cut extra large angles
Undermount drawer runners from Poland that work with 18mm board thickness
Ryobi tools including a battery powered palm router.
Ive been in this type of environment most of my life but its still fascinating to watch how other people do there work, if you had made this twice as long it still wouldn’t have been long enough thanks for the footage and a big thanks to Derek for spending the time to do it with you 👍
I could watch hours of him showing his methods! Great stuff!
Shame there’s no part 3. Brilliant content. 👍👏👏👏.
Derek strikes me as a true gent, Many Thanks for sharing this.
That was a great video, I thought 30 mins might have been quite long but could have watched hours lol. Definately food for thought and great to see experience from large workshops being used. Thanks Sam
You two are amazing, Derek has stripped everything down to its component level and examined every process to save time and money. Using the Kreg was a complete eye opener as I was saving for a Domino or Lamello. No point. You have to follow this up as to what you change in your own new workshop. Only just caught up with this episode and it’s a gem 👍🏻 👌👍🏻 thank you so much and hope you got home okay.
Really impressed by Derek - he knows his business and has thought everything through - top man!
Julian Lindley yes there is lots to learn from him!
Brilliant vid. I hope you go back and visit him again with your camera in hand. I could easily watch another hour of you 2 talking tools and processes. Cheers David
this is why high exp tradies are so important,once you get us yapping we love comparing and sharing what we have learned...thanx so much alistair and derek..i love how you share your mistakes and how you fix them and your method..i hope you know how much we appreciate it...Ty from s.oz
Another great video , love seeing how other people work and use in their workshop . Go back and buy something else of him so we can see part 3 and 4 ... 👍
Omg mate! What a very interesting video, I like many of the people who commented could have watched for hours. He seems like someone you can bounce ideas off and get a good confident answer. Good to see another Grass guy too!
Really appreciate this...Derek is very generous with his work process..thanks so much..
What a cracking guy Derek is 👍👍
Very interesting vid, Derek seems like a cool guy.
Finally got round to watching. Thanks for sharing Alastair and for your content Derek.
Big thanks to you and Derek for sharing.
Great video/ chat . I'm considering an edgebander at the moment so this was very informative . I could listen to you guys chatting all day . brilliant . ( James BH Kitchens)
Absolutely fantastic couple of video's, really enjoyed watching these. So informative. Learned so much from these, thanks for all your time and effort you put into your videos
Thanks for all the great content. Looking forward to the next bid.
Great content Alistair! some great tips on the tools, and Derek. what a nice guy!
Great 2 part vid. Hints, inside knowledge was great to listen to. Be great to see a dedicated hints and tips vid. Thanks for your time guys
Thanks for a great pair of videos which are so rich with info. That's one hell of an edge gander!
Great videos and discussion with Derek! Thanks for sharing!
What a great and no nonsense video wish I was 20 years younger I may have started a cabinet making based business in the strength if this alone. In the meantime with stick with friends and family projects. Will nick some ideas though👍👍👍. John
He's a top bloke. Great video.
Thank you for all the information much appreciated kind regards Wow Interiors Bedford.
Thank you Alistair and Derek great video 👍
I thought this was excellent! So much information shared and processes that have clearly been very well thought out. I like the drawers! And yes, I've started to follow Derek on Instagram.
So informative, brilliant video - thank you!
Nice video, nice chaps, I’ve a blend of dewalt and Ryobi, their brushless tools are very good. 👍
Richard Dunn we are now using the Ryobi cordless router with a ‘badaptor’ convettor for the Dewalt batteries!
Alastair Johnson - Freebird awesome👍 I’ve got a few regular 5 amps for each, been very impressed with Ryobi trim router, 16g finish nailer, which replaced my dewalt one and also Ryobi brushless jig saw. Keep up the great vids, 😀
Great video, still can’t see why anyone with a workshop who does fitted furniture doesn’t have an edgebander, side drilling cnc and a cnc, saves so much time and effort. Pre mill on an edgebander isn’t essential when cut on cnc. Half them tools would be useless with a cnc. It’s just a shame alister that you have chosen a diy cnc rather than an industrial one but hopefully you can learn on that and move on the bigger and better things, edgebander is a must for the new workshop if you can afford one in the future definitely have plans for one in the future if you can. Good luck with it all with the workshop it’s very tough to make money in this game when the overheads are not kept affordable, it is fairly easy when times are good but when you hit harder times then it’s easy to go out of business , on the other hand you can’t build a decent business in what we do without a proper workshop.
RJS Carpenters and Decorators interesting point that the CNC makes some processes redundant. I have actually held back from committing to that CNC, until I see one made and running. I still think it could be worth it for the deal price he is offering me but because we are relocating the business near to our CNC subcontract manufacture I am considering using them a little longer then getting a higher spec CNC machine.
Great video. Love a few of my cheap ryobi tools too... That little trim router he pulled out is cracking. Homebase has them for £45 every now and then. Also like their hot glue gun for £19!
Dave Davison £19? I needed to just get that then!
Yes, "a lot of interesting stuff". Thanks. Cheers, David
Great video, while I have the Rafix (Häfele system) as well as the Domino, the Lamello P2 Zeta Clamex and Tenso are the winner for knockdowns. Confirmat screws are also a great system.
We use a lot of confirmat screws! Now that we have a flatbed CNC we drill the 5mm diameter through-holes through the bookcase sides witht eh cnc, to line up with edge holes drilled using 4mm drills in the Mafell Duo Doweller in the ends of shelves. We also use Cabineo fixings, which are great because the whole joint is prepared as face machining holes on the cnc. However we actually still often find it quicker to use our old method of assembling by hand using our 3D assembly square, direct drilling using the stepped confirmat drill bit, and screwing in place
@@Alastair_Freebird CNC is definitely a plus for all items you listed.
Great insight to how these big guys work and I guess he could have done a part 3 as well😂.
Colin Fleming easily!
Thanks for a great couple of informative videos. IMHO perhaps the only improvement would be to have had Derek with his own microphone,
Rob Bristow I can’t disagree with that, it’s a level of technical preparedness to aspire to! The whole thing was off the cuff, we hadn’t planned it, I just thought it would be a good idea and managed to persuade him to do it just before pointing my iPhone at him! To be honest I was pleased the audio turned out as well as it did.
Really interesting to see/hear the processes and kit. Could be a good idea for a spin off series of videos.. you taking “shop” with other quality makers.
I would love to do more of this, the travel and time involved isn’t something I can commit to right now so instead I will be launching a podcast where I chat with other woodworkers on a video call. 2 episodes are already recorded but I’m not officially launching it til February.
@@Alastair_Freebird I've been hoping you'd do that, can't wait to hear it! 👍🏻
Great video.
Brilliant videos lads
Great insight from Derek and your discussion. Lots to learn from you both. I was curious as to how he uses the hot melt Ryobi tool. Does he use it to apply scribe strips permanently or with another adhesive? Or just for temporary hold of pieces. Would you trust hot melt glue for scribe strips?
john gibson I’m not sure what he likes it for but I’m pretty certain it wouldn’t be for permanent fixing! I know some people use it for creating templates (for an alcove countertop for example) made up of thin strips of hardboard quickly glued together at corners
Can you post the contact for the Unihopper drawer products?
Great conversation sharing ideas, tips and techniques. 👍👍👍 I'm another fan of ryobi tools, after having my Dewalt battery tools get nicked, I switched over to makita those also got nicked. So I dug out my old USA tooling, now the only problem is Ryobi will not do repairs under garentee because I'm a pro user 😔😠😠😠😠
. houtslager is the implication that Ryobi have positioned themselves firmly as a DIY brand, so you’re actually saying the guarantee is void if used professionally?
Yep, ryobi Europe will not do repairs or anything for pro users. 😠But, if you buy as a "private / diyer" then no problem 🙄😒😒😒 ryobi ik might play differently.
. houtslager that’s interesting, because I did have the impression that Ryobi tools weren’t generally considered ‘Pro’ tools - not surprising if they don’t see themselves that way!
@@Alastair_Freebird shame really, because they are quite innovative and make some damn good tools. I love their hydraulic impact drivers, much quieter then the normal mechanical. Their 18g air strike nailer is great too 😊Karl.
👍 what an interesting guy.
great videos
Sion Stephens Derek is a wealth of information!
Yeah he Is has has definitely helped me over the last year! I could have watched another couple of hours!! Good work
Brilliant and interesting , makes me feel very inadequate in terms of knowledge 😂
Phalim Maguire I could have talked all day to Derek and kept on learning!!
This is unbelievably good
Chris Bowers I certainly learned a lot from him!
Anyone know which Grass drawer runners he means? When I've looked in the Hafele catalogue that all appear to be more expensive then the Blum (Movento,) not cheaper.
Isn’t he talking about the ‘grasshopper’ runners by Unihopper - polish I think. Not related to the ‘Grass’ brand from Hafele
@@Alastair_Freebird I've just listened to it again and he definitely says Grass at about 30.27, and goes on to comment about their quality, Like you I've always used Blum but now that I'm doing framed kitchens I need the depth adjusters (inset drawer fronts) as well as the clips, and the price is really mounting up. Hence my interest in this subject :). Cheers John
@@KavanaghGTR ok, I suggest asking hart wholsale in Essex for their comparative prices on each
@@Alastair_Freebird Thanks for the reply Alastair, think I'll stick with the Blum, at least I know where I am with them and the pricing (from LDL) is a lot clearer.
As far as i know the Hk55 only goes to 50degree and the hk85 goes to 60degrees so if buying for understair units doublecheck before buying.
sean duffy thanks
Great video. The hk55 and hkc only go to 50 degrees
Eddy Freddy thanks for that. Is the hkc the battery version of hk55?
@@Alastair_Freebird yes
Grass runners cost like 40 pound in where I live
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Derek Barrett needs to start a youtube i think
He shares a lot on instagram stories and reels! Too busy for youtube video editing I think (like me these days sadly...)
I’m glad I don’t work with Derek. I wouldn’t get any work done. I’d be talking to him for hours.
keith widdows 😂 I am so glad I pressed him to get on camera, he was flat refusing but I managed to persuade him and I’m so glad I did!
Problem with the edge banding machines is the extreme price.
Thanks for sharing - Im impressed 🖒
Thank you for your video amazing! Honestly very helpful but.Dominos connectors are not good please try ! Lamello Zeta P2 as u said this is an amazing system ! U will love it !
We do use the Lamello fixings now!!