Douglas Fairbanks Jr. Puts the Joan Crawford Rumors to Bed

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  • Are you aware of all the abuse accusations that Joan Crawford's daughter, Christina Crawford, made about her in her tell-all memoir Mommie Dearest? If so, do you think that the allegations made in that book are accurate or do you think they are sensationalized just to sell copies of the book? Let us know in the comments section below.
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    00:00 - Intro
    02:09 - Fairbanks Jr. Portrayed Crawford As Self-Centered
    04:53 - Mommie Dearest
    07:36 - Outro
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    Join FactsVerse as we take a closer look at the rumors and accusations that have been directed towards actress Joan Crawford since her death in 1977. We'll be focusing on what her first husband, Douglas Fairbanks Jr had to say about his late ex-wife before his death in 2000.
    The relationship of Douglas Fairbanks Jr and Joan Crawford was prime fodder for the tabloid publications of the late 20s and early 30s. Douglas Jr was Tinseltown royalty. His father was the famed and beloved actor Douglas Fairbanks and his stepmother was the late-great Mary Pickford. While Jr was known as the Prince of Hollywood and followed in his parent's footsteps by also becoming an actor, it was his wife, Crawford that would ultimately become the huge movie star of the two.
    Crawford made her big break in the 1928 film Our Dancing Daughters. A year later she fell in love with, Douglas Fairbanks Jr on the set of the sequel to Our Dacing Daughters, Our Modern Maidens.
    The romance between Crawford and Fairbanks Jr seemed to be a match made in heaven, but as the years have gone by, we've learned a lot of juicy and shocking details about the two stars relationship that has cast it an entirely light. But more interesting than that is what we've learned about Joan Crawford. Numerous accusations, rumors, and revelations have come to light in the decades since her passing in 1977 that depict her as something more like a monster than a loving mother or cherished film star.
    After divorcing Fairbanks Jr in 1923, Crawford went on to marry three more times. Three of her four marriages ended in divorce. In total, she would adopt five children, one of whom however would later be reclaimed by his birth mother a year after being adopted. Crawford's relationship with her children was one of the biggest reasons why the public lost faith in her. She disinherited her two eldest children, and after her death, Crawford's daughter published a revealing tell-all memoir titled Mommie Dearest that painted the late star as a raging alcoholic who routinely subjected her children to egregious abuses.
    Douglas Fairbanks Jr. Puts the Joan Crawford Rumors to Bed
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  • @EagleRockers
    @EagleRockers 2 роки тому +9

    After divorcing Fairbanks Jr in 1923? Sloppy work here. She married him in 1929, divorcing him in 1933. She wasn't even in Hollywood in '23. And as far as Christina's claims: Hogwash!

  • @whatever-whatever7386
    @whatever-whatever7386 2 роки тому +13

    The year Joan split from Fairbanks was not 1923, but 1933. And the trouble with her children started earlier than 1968. It was well known publicly that Joan and Christina had problems long before that. In 1960, Christina did a Ladies Home Journal interview about it and also spoke on the radio about it.The radio interview is here on UA-cam.

  • @SWSimpson
    @SWSimpson 2 роки тому +32

    Joan left Christina out of the will because she was made aware of the Book Mommie Dearest that Christina had written but not yet published. Christina also gave an interview where she talks about how much Joan had done for her, including paying for college and getting her jobs, but Christina just wanted her mom's fame, her money, her career.... without putting in the work for it. People have revealed things about Christina that are not flattering... she intentionally did things to put her mom in a bad spot. Joan and Al Steele gave Christina a car, but every day Christina would park it across the street facing the wrong direction. Joan and Al got tired of paying the parking tickets and getting out of impound, so they eventually took the car from her. Christina dropped out of college because she just wanted to be an actress, Joan was not pleased so she told her to pay her own bills but eventually got Christina a job in the largest talent agency. Christina quit that job because she wanted to act. Joan got Christina a few jobs. Christina was in a play and had an affair with the director. She was so terrible, didn't know her lines, showed up late, and when they fired her the entire cast was thrilled she was gone. She is a monster.

    • @jenniferlloyd9574
      @jenniferlloyd9574 Рік тому +9

      The play was _Barefoot in the Park_ in which Christina blatantly refused to follow direction. She, also, was argumentive beligirent, unprofessional, downright nasty and constantly disregarded her "spot" (X) on the stage, thereby throwing all the other actors off during showings. She was such a pill and so poisonous during production that the cast all refused to ever work with her again. She reminds me of the type of woman who doesn't shower between men.

    • @CaliChaos99
      @CaliChaos99 Рік тому +1

      Facts, thank you

    • @SunsetBoulevard111
      @SunsetBoulevard111 Рік тому +2

      You just make it up as you go along 🤠

    • @kristopherwilhite
      @kristopherwilhite 11 місяців тому +3

      Monster is a harsh word. I've seen a couple of television show clips of a few of her acting appearances in the very early seventies. She was a hot blonde and seemed to really be a natural. The clips were overdubbed with Christina interviews about her abusive mother because it was a satirical trailer for a new film about Joan and Christina. I wonder why she just walked away from her inherited gift of dramatic acting? As the author of "MOMMIE DEAREST" she became a bestseling author which is ultimately what made her s star in her own right. When she did a *DONAHUE " interview she was asked if she was going to play herself in the upcoming film adaptation that was in
      preproduction. Her flattered but embarrassed response "oh no" made it truly seem like she had no confidence in acting and could not conceive of being in a film.

    • @lynntownsend4457
      @lynntownsend4457 4 місяці тому +2

      Everything said here about Christina is documented and Myrna Loy was in Barefoot in the Park and said Christina was crazy and wanted to be her mother.

  • @corym8358
    @corym8358 4 місяці тому +3

    Christina was rebellious and mentally unstable while Joan was a strict disciplinarian who refused to let her go wild. Christina made up most of the claims and exaggerated others in order to get revenge on Joan and, of course, to sell books. Joan's other children, Cathy and Cindy, refuted the abuse claims.

  • @cordelianoelle3644
    @cordelianoelle3644 2 роки тому +11

    Question: If Joan hated wire hangers, how were they there for Christina to use? I asked that at about 8 years old and still think the question is valid.

    • @elibarajas690
      @elibarajas690 Рік тому +5

      Joan probably had the clothes dry cleaned and when returned they were on wire hangers, it must have been the childrens chore to remove them from the wire hangers and hang them with wooden ones, that was probably her outrage when seeing one in the closet 💁🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @Urm0mz
      @Urm0mz Рік тому +4

      Wire hangers are temporary. They leave creases in expensive clothing.
      As the daughter of a laundress, Joan knew this and also had handmade hangers made by her mother for the children's clothing.
      She told her children to put their clothing away. They didn't.
      She woke them up and made them clean their room and put the clothing away
      Whether or not she used physical punishment....it was not a random attack

    • @cordelianoelle3644
      @cordelianoelle3644 Рік тому +1

      @@Urm0mz But the question remains, If Joan hated them so much, why were they available for Christina to use?

    • @Seabasstien
      @Seabasstien 9 місяців тому

      If I were an abusive mother I would beat you with a wooden hanger. Just sayin.

  • @migue4793
    @migue4793 2 роки тому +33

    Usually in cases like this the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

  • @michaelgalea5148
    @michaelgalea5148 2 роки тому +16

    None of us were there at the time. It is sad to see our Hollywood legends torn down. Still none of us are perfect.

    • @FactsVerse
      @FactsVerse  2 роки тому +1

      We agree! Thank you for sharing your thoughts. What other types of videos would you like to see?

    • @franceskronenwett3539
      @franceskronenwett3539 8 місяців тому +1

      Strange that the book was published after Joan had died and was therefore unable to defend herself. I must admit that I have read the book and was amazed how Christina remembered every bad deed of her mother right down to the tiniest detail. Either she kept a diary in which she recorded everything that happened or she was just exaggerating.

  • @voozoo1606
    @voozoo1606 2 роки тому +8

    Joan, as a VERY young girl, worked in a dry-cleaners where she hanged clothes on WIRE hangers. This is why she hated WIRE hangers!!! The book(s) & movie(s) about her life NEVER explain this!!!🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

  • @amandadean3948
    @amandadean3948 2 роки тому +14

    Douglas Fairbanks had split with Joan by that time so how would he have a clue on what type of mother she was?? With her first 2 kids she was abusing alcohol and probably pills very heavily. The younger adopted kids got the sober, older, more mellow version of Joan so yes…their childhood accounts could be very different from each other.

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +3

      Christina Crawford Lied

    • @helenthorpe1494
      @helenthorpe1494 2 роки тому +3

      He knew her for 50 plus years. I think he had more authority on the sort of person she was than some blind sheep that follow Christina's work of FICTION.

  • @teetarquin7012
    @teetarquin7012 2 роки тому +12

    Respectfully, Douglas Fairbanks Junior was not married to her when she had those children.

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +4

      He knew her throughout her life. Phillip Terry, Crawford's husband when she DID have the children ALSO DENIED the claims - as did Crawford's other children and household staff. Their statements are on my website, along with the actual documents proving her daughter LIED.

  • @theodorenovak3363
    @theodorenovak3363 2 роки тому +9

    Cathy & Cynthia have both since 1978 cried foul and called Christina and out and out liar. The book was written in spite because Christina was left out of the will. These girls were THERE when a lot Christina's claims happened and both have said the situations were blown way out of proportion. Or an out and out lie that NEVER happened. Joan's grandchildren by Cathy and Cynthia have said. Their auntie Christina has never seen them. No Christmas cards, no birthday cards they have never seen nor met Christina ever. Cathy and Cynthia have not seen Christina in decades. In 1978 Cathy and Cynthia were finally interviewed by the Philadelphia daily News where in the end the only thing they had to say was "Chirstina, dearest. We don't remember mommy ever being a monster. Do tell who you are talking about in your book?" BOTH girls have said for years. The book was such a sensation and phenomenon that nobody wanted to hear what the other 2 girls had to say. 40 years later it has been proven that many of the old stars who rallied around Christina were on Christina's payroll.. cheques leave a paper trail . Child psychiatrists who have interviewed Christina doubt any of it ever happened. She changed her stories too many times.. abused children look for closure and move on. Christina is bilking this for ever cent she can get..

    • @kristopherwilhite
      @kristopherwilhite Рік тому

      Child psychiatrists have never interviewed Christina Crawford and have not ever said she was "lying."

  • @4nlover635
    @4nlover635 2 роки тому +6

    I doubt that she was mother of the year, but I honestly do not think she was that bad.

    • @kristopherwilhite
      @kristopherwilhite 11 місяців тому

      You honestly would not know and if you had been in Christina's shoes you probably would personally think she WAS that bad. Probably worse. I remember when it came out my mother said "I'll bet the little girl was a pain in the ass and it probably wouldn't have seemed so severe." WTF?? She was trapped in that house with a famous abusive actress who drank too much. MORE than severe and very much that bad... probably far far worse!

  • @jeffneis553
    @jeffneis553 5 місяців тому +2

    He said he was very close to his stepmom Mary Pickford and said alot of nice things about her, he was a class act!

  • @dextec49
    @dextec49 2 роки тому +7

    I wouldn’t write about my parents to the public, good or bad. Will never know the actual true of went on between them. She is gone, hopefully the daughter is doing well in her life. Sad reminder video of tragic consequences of parents and their children!

    • @kristopherwilhite
      @kristopherwilhite 24 дні тому

      You wouldn't write one because no one would be interested since your parents were not famous stars.

  • @onrycodger
    @onrycodger 2 роки тому +14

    The volume is too low on this vid. Couldn't hear it.😦

    • @psw4763
      @psw4763 2 роки тому +2

      Agree

    • @FactsVerse
      @FactsVerse  2 роки тому +1

      The subtitles will help if the volume is low. We'll check, thank you for letting us know!

  • @robertdragoff6909
    @robertdragoff6909 2 роки тому +9

    Besides the Mommy Dearest movie there was also a sketch on Saturday Night Live with Gilda Radner as the adopted daughter….
    This is one of those stories where it sounds so incredible as to all the things that happened but you have to think it never happened….
    I think Joan passed without coming to tums with her daughter .

    • @jmad627
      @jmad627 2 роки тому +1

      Omg, I forgot about that sketch. It was hilarious!

    • @kristopherwilhite
      @kristopherwilhite 24 дні тому +1

      I remember seeing that skit as a kid and that's how I even was aware of the book. It made me so curious!

  • @telemaco1888
    @telemaco1888 2 роки тому +5

    Maybe she was very strict but I think Mrs. Christiana Crawford should move on with her life and get some therapy and stop adding more page to a book wrote four decades ago. The dead can not speak again

    • @telemaco1888
      @telemaco1888 2 роки тому +1

      Still what’s to be in the limelight for something old

    • @kristopherwilhite
      @kristopherwilhite 24 дні тому

      The book had a huge following and people remain interested for more!

  • @AHMAD-2324
    @AHMAD-2324 2 роки тому +9

    I believe some of Christina claims but definitely not all of them.

  • @MariaFernanda-dr7pv
    @MariaFernanda-dr7pv 6 місяців тому +2

    Joan deserves more videos..She was a icon❤❤❤❤ she is a icon

  • @11Dossier
    @11Dossier 2 роки тому +6

    Who knows what really happened

  • @johnpaulsecond4626
    @johnpaulsecond4626 Рік тому +3

    JC seems to come across on stage and screen and through her own autobio as congruently and consistently believable; the accusations by her daughter just do not seem to add up or be credible, they don't make sense; she certainly was gifted across a spectrum of genres in real life; five adopted children on top of three miscarriages; i would say on the face of the facts presented she had a strong and healthy motherly instinct, was one determined lady, bright, beautiful, athletic, talented; quite possibly she was such a delightful human being certain lesser mortals just couldn't stomach the fact that she had a beautiful heart that radiated so bright. that's what i see and hear come through JC

  • @tanyareynolds9339
    @tanyareynolds9339 2 роки тому +4

    Every picture of her in this video looked different from each other. Weird how her face kept changing looks.

  • @annkirby6637
    @annkirby6637 2 роки тому +4

    Absolutely!

  • @matthewbeumer3168
    @matthewbeumer3168 Місяць тому +1

    Christina was confrontational and drove her mother to her wits end and Joan would lash out. Christopher was diagnosed with some sort of mental disorder I do believe and Joan struggled to deal with it. If you take a balanced view those kids should not have been with Joan but they drove her nuts. Joan had a terrible terrible time as kid and resented the privilege she gave them . The other kids were apparently more docile and could handle Crawford's disciplinarian manner. Miss Crawford should not have adopted them she did her best but failed badly as a Mother to those two!

  • @harrylangdon491
    @harrylangdon491 2 роки тому +5

    How would Doug know how she treated her children?

    • @lydiavisitor1712
      @lydiavisitor1712 2 роки тому +1

      He knew her for over 50 years and knew the type of person she was, which is sure as hell 50 more years than you ever did. You don't know a person for that long without really KNOWING them warts and all.

    • @anferneecephas7161
      @anferneecephas7161 2 роки тому +3

      @@lydiavisitor1712 that means nothing. You can never really know what’s going on behind closed doors. Perha

    • @anferneecephas7161
      @anferneecephas7161 2 роки тому

      @The Barefoot Kid but there were witnesses. So many witnesses. Famous people in the industry. Look it up.

  • @corineusa1454
    @corineusa1454 2 роки тому +9

    I dont believe "mommy dearest" tale. I loved Joan Crawford, she was a great actress (soap opera). Her private life is of no interest to me.

  • @rosemaryfranzese317
    @rosemaryfranzese317 Рік тому +5

    Joan Crawford was not a saint but I don’t believe everything Christina Crawford said. I saw an interview with Christina Crawford and David Letterman. Letterman was brilliant he drew Crawford out artfully and she did not seem to be a very nice person. It should be remembered that Joan Crawford’s other two adopted children contradicted Christina’s account. I just don’t think Joan and Christina were compatible personalities

    • @jenniferlloyd9574
      @jenniferlloyd9574 Рік тому

      Christina was sullen, nasty, argumentive, beligirent, narcissistic, hateful, selfish, arrogant, manipulative, selfish, messy, immature, violent, moody, compulsive liar, dishonest, very ugly and angry.
      One story that sticks in my mind is how Joan would send her to boarding school, after a home visit, with innumerable, beautiful new clothes filing Christina's luggage. By the time Christina arrived by chauffeur at Chadwick's, there would be nothing left but a couple of shabby, beat up and dirty dresses. Where had she dumped the others? Christina would tell the headmistress that these beat up dresses were all her mother would allow her to have... When questioned profusely by Joan, Christina would nonchalantly shrug and say that she'd given all her clothing away to other girls who had "admired" it. What girls?? Christina was very vague regarding to whom she'd given her clothes... See the pattern???

    • @angelacarbon4010
      @angelacarbon4010 Місяць тому

      Christopher, Christina's brother, supports her claims.

    • @Lady.B.ellinor4971
      @Lady.B.ellinor4971 26 днів тому

      ​@@angelacarbon4010she offered him half the royalties from the book to say it, he got barely anything so he came clean and denied Christina's claims.

    • @angelacarbon4010
      @angelacarbon4010 26 днів тому

      @@Lady.B.ellinor4971 I've never heard this. Is this documented somewhere? She also said that many in Hollywood knew about the abuse. Idk how many actually spoke out about it.

    • @Lady.B.ellinor4971
      @Lady.B.ellinor4971 26 днів тому

      @@angelacarbon4010 it is documented because I've read it somewhere he also has never been recorded on interviews promoting the book with her. try searching on you tube for it.

  • @dallasbaiton371
    @dallasbaiton371 2 роки тому +26

    Douglas was not living with her anymore so he never would have known what was going on .

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +7

      Those who WERE living there DENIED Christina's LIES.

    • @helenthorpe1494
      @helenthorpe1494 2 роки тому +2

      Well Philip Terry was there. You think he was wearing efficient earplugs and a blindfold when Joan rampaged through the house on her drunken 'night raids'🙄🙄🙄

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +5

      @@helenthorpe1494 These people always forget about Phillip Terry. He lived in the home during Christina's childhood, and he did not support her claims.

  • @dennisbraulick3727
    @dennisbraulick3727 2 роки тому +4

    To me this is their own affairs

    • @csxanatos653
      @csxanatos653 2 роки тому +1

      And here you are clicking and commenting. Save it.

    • @chiquitafeldberg8512
      @chiquitafeldberg8512 2 роки тому +1

      So your here to watch one of her movies also? Lol

  • @brianfrank7022
    @brianfrank7022 2 роки тому +1

    Joan and doulas divorced in 1933 not 1923. There is always three sides to a store; side A, side B and truth.

  • @MarvinJBush
    @MarvinJBush 2 роки тому +18

    I watch Joan Crawford on-stage and, to me, her actions always seem to thinly disguise an angry, controlling personality. The "revelations" of "Mommie Dearest" came as no surprise to me.

    • @carolynhawley8128
      @carolynhawley8128 2 роки тому +1

      Yes and as the saying goes, you can fool some of the people, some of the time... Joan's ruthlessness, likely honed in cut-throat Hollywood, exudes from her very pores. The real tragedy is that vulnerable children were entrusted to her care.

    • @Garsons-oq4lh
      @Garsons-oq4lh 2 роки тому +5

      @@carolynhawley8128 oh please. Stop making her out to be this gigantic monster that of which is not accurate.

    • @chiquitafeldberg8512
      @chiquitafeldberg8512 2 роки тому

      @@Garsons-oq4lh lol

    • @AuntKimmySez
      @AuntKimmySez Рік тому +3

      The book borders on fiction/sci-fi & comedy (since it's mostly BS).

  • @sblsbl7600
    @sblsbl7600 2 роки тому +6

    So they had a good relationship until 1968 when Christina was 29. How is that possable if the daughter was abused. Christina was trying to sell copies of her book. Christina has admitted the coat hanger scene was made up. I think the whole book was made up. If you look at pictures of Joan and her daughter together they are both glowing.

    • @Garsons-oq4lh
      @Garsons-oq4lh 2 роки тому +3

      I think until 1972 when they stopped speaking altogether after an unpleasant Christmas time telephone call.

    • @chiquitafeldberg8512
      @chiquitafeldberg8512 2 роки тому

      OMFG are you serious? Do you think abusive parents all walk around with chainsaws in their hands? No sweet it's often hidden behind closed doors. Sheesh

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +3

      @@chiquitafeldberg8512 Christina Crawford Lied

    • @kristopherwilhite
      @kristopherwilhite Рік тому

      Christina Crawford has never said the wire hanger incident was made up.

  • @avejoe
    @avejoe 2 роки тому +4

    Very Interesting Facts!

    • @FactsVerse
      @FactsVerse  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for watching! We're so glad you enjoyed this video. What other types of videos would you like to see?

    • @avejoe
      @avejoe 2 роки тому

      @@FactsVerse Christopher Lee

    • @Garsons-oq4lh
      @Garsons-oq4lh 2 роки тому

      @@FactsVerse What kind of Joan video is this anyways? There are more than enough of these on youtube why keep stoking the fire with the perennial question about Joan and Mommie Dearest. Please take it down.
      FYI there is black and white proof in the form of a court ordered under oath deposition when Christina contested Joan’s will; this at the same time she's submitting her book to be published. In other words she's full of malarkey.

    • @kristopherwilhite
      @kristopherwilhite Рік тому

      ​@@FactsVerse a video about Bette Midler.

  • @darwinang3399
    @darwinang3399 2 роки тому +2

    POOR AUDIO

  • @cathy3613
    @cathy3613 2 роки тому +1

    She was only left with 1 million in her will big deal from an actress

    • @Garsons-oq4lh
      @Garsons-oq4lh 2 роки тому

      That was Bette Davis; Joan's was nearly 2 million plus all personal property.

  • @moxiepops8457
    @moxiepops8457 2 роки тому +11

    I think it’s an overblown story that was made to make money for the daughter. All parents have had bad moments, it doesn’t make them abusive.

  • @MariaFernanda-dr7pv
    @MariaFernanda-dr7pv 6 місяців тому

    Talk more about Joan Crawford..She was a icon...Great Actress,a beautiful woman..Cristina lied..

  • @donbrentlinger7617
    @donbrentlinger7617 2 роки тому +1

    He cheated on her...she cheated also...anything to get ahead.....

  • @lesleyscott938
    @lesleyscott938 Місяць тому

    She was 21 not 23 or 24 ....so much is incorrect with this

  • @AndriaBieberDesigns
    @AndriaBieberDesigns 2 роки тому +23

    Oh please people that actually worked with her directly saw her slap and abuse for children

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +6

      That is a total LIE! NAME these "people." I have the statements of those in the home on my website. Christina Crawford LIED

    • @helenthorpe1494
      @helenthorpe1494 2 роки тому +1

      We're WAITING!!

    • @lydiavisitor1712
      @lydiavisitor1712 Рік тому +2

      Still no names? What a surprise🙄🙄🙄

  • @angelaholmes8888
    @angelaholmes8888 2 роки тому

    Yes I do believe Christina and Christopher

  • @jeffbassin630
    @jeffbassin630 2 роки тому +8

    I think that Crawford was far less than an ideal mother. Some, if not all of what Christina has alleged I believe to be true.

  • @beatricecostello7843
    @beatricecostello7843 Рік тому +3

    I believe Christina, Joan mellowed when she got older and treated the twins differently!!

  • @jeffrey7477
    @jeffrey7477 11 місяців тому

    Christina is the only one of the family alive now

  • @gregingram4996
    @gregingram4996 2 роки тому +6

    One public Joan Crawford incident that was documented was her behavior at a White House luncheon. Joan was seated next to one of the young Senators' wives, and began publicly scolding and chastising the young woman (in a loud, vitriolic diatribe) for allegedly using the wrong silverware. Needless to say, the others at the luncheon were shocked, and Joan was never invited back to the White House again!
    If that's how she'd behave toward a perfect stranger, is it really all that incredible that she'd be abusive to her own (albeit adopted) daughter?

    • @Garsons-oq4lh
      @Garsons-oq4lh 2 роки тому +5

      I think you're way off in your recollection. It had to do with Joan correcting the young woman about the correctness of a dessert or finger bowl and a doily that should be underneath. It was probably overblown by the press. Joan related to reporter Shirley Eder that she didn't get up from the table ("for ch----sake").
      But let's talk about this young 23 year old woman just recently married to an old 67 year old male politician (this his second to a young woman). Talk disgusting and apparently there was naturally criticism at the time. Joan’s twin daughters Cathy and Cindy were only a few years younger then this politician's new wife so perhaps something in Joan spilled over.

    • @gregingram4996
      @gregingram4996 2 роки тому

      @@Garsons-oq4lhI assume you're referring to Strom Thurmond's young bride? Remember when they got pelted with marshmallows (Like trying to stick marshmallows into a piggy bank!)?

    • @Garsons-oq4lh
      @Garsons-oq4lh 2 роки тому +2

      @@gregingram4996 The White house incident involved Cathy Douglas, the 23 year old bride of 67 year old Court Justice William Douglas.

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +5

      Your story is not accurate. You are adding details that did not happen, and telling the actual story total WRONG. This is typical by those who try to uphold Christina's lies - always lying to uphold another lie.

    • @gregingram4996
      @gregingram4996 2 роки тому

      @@ChristinaCrawfordLiedI must confess, I wasn't there at the time. I'm simply repeating the story as I read it in Joan's obituary. Or in her case, o-bitch-uary!

  • @freedmm3122
    @freedmm3122 8 місяців тому

    There are holes in Christina’s story i dont believe all of it!

  • @OldMusicFan83
    @OldMusicFan83 2 роки тому +5

    I think she’s been dead for 40+ years and you should let it go.

  • @jeffrey7477
    @jeffrey7477 11 місяців тому

    Christina was almost killed by Joan

  • @dwilloughby13
    @dwilloughby13 2 роки тому +5

    The question is why would she write this book, be it fact or fiction.... it was obviously written to get back at her mother, or for money their private life should have nothing to do with anyone, this was meant to tarnish everything her mother worked for... instead of her mother's amazing body of work, this is what she is known for, so yea, who knows, sounds like revenge to me, maybe she found out she wasn't being left anything so ahe wrote this trash

    • @kristopherwilhite
      @kristopherwilhite 24 дні тому

      This book exposed child abuse for what it is and was influential in legal reform for child abuse.

  • @jeffrey7477
    @jeffrey7477 11 місяців тому

    Joan was a princess to mgm and Warner
    But once she was at home. Look out

  • @chiquitafeldberg8512
    @chiquitafeldberg8512 2 роки тому +2

    Omg she went in to cover for her daughter's role??? WTF that's diabolical ! Joan really hated her to do that, that must have been so humiliating for her daughter.

    • @Garsons-oq4lh
      @Garsons-oq4lh 2 роки тому +4

      Joan did not hate Christina; it was the other way around.

    • @helenthorpe1494
      @helenthorpe1494 2 роки тому

      You with your one-dimensional mind couldn't even begin to fathom Joan's reasons for doing what she did in the Secret Storm so I'm not going to explain them to you. Go back to your worship of your 'saviour' Craptina. It's what you do best.

    • @angelmediumkyle444
      @angelmediumkyle444 2 роки тому +2

      Joan took on the role to help her daughter from losing the role because of Christina being sick.

    • @freedmm3122
      @freedmm3122 8 місяців тому

      She did it to save the part for Christina!

  • @ThePalmermark
    @ThePalmermark 2 роки тому +7

    I think the best was the closing line in the movie Mommie Dearest. Where Christine said the last word could be hers!

  • @dianejohnson5216
    @dianejohnson5216 2 роки тому +1

    I beleave Cristina

  • @patriciadunne3384
    @patriciadunne3384 2 роки тому +18

    Poor Joan was an abusive alcoholic. She also suffered greatly from Her mother and stepfather.

  • @jeffrey7477
    @jeffrey7477 11 місяців тому +1

    Unbelievable all over wire hangers
    Go to the doctor for help joan

  • @refrigerator_mama
    @refrigerator_mama 5 місяців тому

    Christina lied!

  • @sagbrady8414
    @sagbrady8414 2 роки тому +7

    There are 3 sides to the truth...yours, mine and ours...I tend to lean toward Christina

  • @haroldstella1398
    @haroldstella1398 7 місяців тому

    NO ONE BUT GOD, WILL EVER KNOW THE ENTIRE TRUTH!! 🥲🥲

  • @sapphire13579
    @sapphire13579 2 роки тому +5

    If Fairbanks, Jr. was not living with the Crawfords when Joan is said to have abused the older children, then he couldn't possibly know what went on in that house. I wasn't there, either. The book was interesting, as was the movie. Joan has always been one of my favorite actresses. Christina's book is not the only one with ugly tales about Joan. I am inclined to believe there is some truth to them all.

  • @brickbat44
    @brickbat44 2 роки тому

    Deppvs heard

  • @MGTOWPaladin
    @MGTOWPaladin 2 роки тому +4

    According to James MacArthur, the original Danno from Hawaii 5-O, he spent the night with Christina and Christopher and saw first hand the "sleep-safe" device they were strapped to on their beds. After the door was closed, Christopher quickly shed his straps. Years of bongage had turned him into an escape artists.

    • @Garsons-oq4lh
      @Garsons-oq4lh 2 роки тому +6

      MacArthur and you don't anything. Christopher suffered from what we know today as ADHD. He was harnessed in bed for his own safety because he'd wander out at night. Joan spent a considerable on doctors to help Christopher.

    • @MGTOWPaladin
      @MGTOWPaladin 2 роки тому +1

      @@Garsons-oq4lh All I know is Christina states in her book, Mommy Dearest, that they were strapped in their beds every night and James MacArthur verified that fact. I have no idea how the effects of ADHD play into this!

    • @chiquitafeldberg8512
      @chiquitafeldberg8512 2 роки тому

      @@Garsons-oq4lh Blame the victim

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +3

      You're incorrect. (1) ONLY Christopher was harnessed in the bed (he was not strapped down), (2) It was done under Joan's doctor's advice. I have an entire video debunking this nonsense on my channel - complete with statements from Christopher's own daughter. Christina Crawford Lied.

    • @MGTOWPaladin
      @MGTOWPaladin 2 роки тому

      @@ChristinaCrawfordLied All I know was what James MacArthur said he saw as a child. I don't think he was in Christina's bedroom. There was no reason (doctor's excuse) as to why. Why would a doctor instruct a parent to do this...I have no clue! And, don't really care!
      This is a "she said, she said" situation and I don't care a bit about Hollywood, now or then!

  • @marvineblackburn7846
    @marvineblackburn7846 2 роки тому +14

    I believe Christina and her brother too.

  • @Lady.B.ellinor4971
    @Lady.B.ellinor4971 26 днів тому

    Just watch old clips of Christina in any interview to promote the book release she behaves like an evil psychopath, i dont believe a word of her book.

    • @FactsVerse
      @FactsVerse  26 днів тому +1

      Thanks for watching! We're glad to know that you love our video. What other types of video would you like to see on Facts Verse?

    • @Lady.B.ellinor4971
      @Lady.B.ellinor4971 26 днів тому

      @@FactsVerse mae west would be great.

  • @alfredbonnabel7022
    @alfredbonnabel7022 2 роки тому +1

    FACTS FACTS FACTS...

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +3

      The FACTS are on my website. Christina Crawford Lied - NO question.

  • @amahra100
    @amahra100 2 роки тому +3

    Douglas Fairbanks Jr. didn't know THAT Joan, as he point it, because she had no children at the time--making his opinion null and void.

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +4

      The PROOF Christina Crawford LIED is on my website. Including the statements from those who WERE in the home at the time.

    • @helenthorpe1494
      @helenthorpe1494 2 роки тому +2

      Douglas DID know Joan at the point in her life. He knew her for 50 odd years.

  • @nickfanzo
    @nickfanzo Рік тому

    Stupid wire hangers

  • @DH-ve5bl
    @DH-ve5bl 2 роки тому +4

    You called the “Mommie Dearest “ movie “satirical “. I’ve also seen it called “camp”. I see no evidence of either claim in that movie. Crawford’s contemporaries in Hollywood were well aware of her behavior. People who make fun of the movie probably never met a truly psychotic individual.

    • @kristopherwilhite
      @kristopherwilhite Рік тому +1

      The movie was not intended to be satirical at all. It was so over the top and poorly written as well as fictionalized that audiences found it to be funny but that was never intentional. Once this response by audiences occurred the production company began advertising the film as though it was satirical but it was intended to be serious and dramatic.

  • @BrokenneckYgor
    @BrokenneckYgor 2 роки тому +1

    Joan unhappily died and was sadly mourned by mommas boys everywhere

  • @jelsner5077
    @jelsner5077 2 роки тому +1

    Joan Crawford is one of my favorite Old Hollywood actors. That said, I believe Christina and hope she (and Christopher) were able to endure and have some measure of happiness in their lives.

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +8

      Christina Crawford Lied! It's been PROVEN she lied.

    • @jelsner5077
      @jelsner5077 2 роки тому

      @@ChristinaCrawfordLied LOL! OK, crazy.

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +7

      @@jelsner5077 It's not crazy. It's the TRUTH, EDUCATE yourself instead of stuffing your face!

    • @jelsner5077
      @jelsner5077 2 роки тому

      @@ChristinaCrawfordLied Get a life, crazypants. And NO WIRE HANGERS, EVER!

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +2

      @@jelsner5077 You get a life. You're scared the truth has come out. Coward!

  • @sasukeuchiha303
    @sasukeuchiha303 2 роки тому +2

    first

    • @FactsVerse
      @FactsVerse  2 роки тому

      Actually, I think we watched it first 😁

  • @ronaldmiller2740
    @ronaldmiller2740 2 роки тому +1

    I BELIEVE JOAN HAD A PISSY SIDE ON HER ,, SHE DID NOT KNOW IF SHE WAS COMMING OR GOING.. SHE WOULD HIDE THE KIDS FROM THE PRESS AND SOME PEOPLE OR TELL THEM TO SHUT YOUR MOUTH OR YOUR GOING TO GET IT WORST,.. HOME STEAD WHEN THE INSIDE DOORS SHUT GOING IN HELL WOULD START ,,KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AND ACT WITH OUT PISSING OF THE DRUNKING MOMMY..

    • @lydiavisitor1712
      @lydiavisitor1712 2 роки тому

      Joan said all that, did she? Plesse enlighten me. When were you a fly on her wall? If you morons actually took time to do real research instead of swallowing every bit of trash that your eager eyes can devour you might actually have something interesting to say, az it it you're about as interesting paint drying on a wall. Do us a favour and bore off!

  • @morgannaturcotte1843
    @morgannaturcotte1843 2 роки тому +1

    The eyes reveal everything. Watch her eyes in movies and photos old interviews.

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +4

      "The eyes reveal everything" - PLEASE, for the love of humanity - DO NOT ever serve on a jury for someone's innocence. You would overlook the facts for superficial, ridiculous reasons to validate lies. You seem to not realize in those MOVIES Joan was playing a CHARACTER.

    • @morgannaturcotte1843
      @morgannaturcotte1843 2 роки тому

      @@ChristinaCrawfordLied ive been on jury's. Both cases i went with the innocent. I felt both were being railroaded.

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому

      @@morgannaturcotte1843 And did you use a the person's eyes as a means of knowing anything about them?

    • @morgannaturcotte1843
      @morgannaturcotte1843 2 роки тому

      @@ChristinaCrawfordLied yes, as well as body language, testimony and attitude. It all goes together.

    • @lydiavisitor1712
      @lydiavisitor1712 2 роки тому +3

      You obviously haven't looked very hard into Christina's eyes then, have you?

  • @donaanjon
    @donaanjon 2 роки тому +13

    I believe Cristina an her brother.

    • @georgiesinclair6951
      @georgiesinclair6951 2 роки тому +1

      Big deal

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +6

      Christina Crawford LIED. Her brother never said she told the truth. In fact, she CHEATED HIM out of money, and also lied about him.

  • @laceylocket1
    @laceylocket1 2 роки тому +3

    I Never liked Crawford even as a Kid i felt there was something off about her !!!

    • @barbararoca6847
      @barbararoca6847 9 місяців тому +1

      She always gave me the creeps as a kid.

  • @karenmindiola1964
    @karenmindiola1964 2 роки тому +3

    Oh yes abusive alright!

  • @wunderkind-7724
    @wunderkind-7724 2 роки тому +3

    In my opinion, Joan Crawford was a gynecological term beginning with the letter “C”

    • @helenthorpe1494
      @helenthorpe1494 2 роки тому +3

      That 'C' certainly doesn't stand for class where you're concerned. I assume by that comment you're a man so in my opinion you're a male anatomy term beginning with the letter 'P'.

    • @wunderkind-7724
      @wunderkind-7724 2 роки тому

      @@helenthorpe1494 oh your knickers are too tight; get the next bigger size and lighten up

  • @jackiereynolds2888
    @jackiereynolds2888 2 роки тому +1

    I always hated Joan.
    I guess this little kid saw through - into the inside of a veritable self-centered freak.
    Side with goodness, and your 'menu' in life has items which are simply unavailable to you.
    But get in bed with evil -
    and your can have virtually anything you want. 😐

  • @inwardk
    @inwardk 2 роки тому +2

    I believe Christina. Her stories have the ring of truth. Especially since Joan was a severe alcoholic.
    Douglas had no way of knowing what kind of mother Joan was. His perception of Joan as a wife and lover would obviously be totally different of Christinas' perception of Joan as a mother.

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +4

      Her daughter LIED. It's been PROVEN she lied! A "ring of truth"? Ha! The actual documents and witnesses to her lies are on my website!

  • @njkauto2394
    @njkauto2394 2 роки тому +5

    Yes, she was a horrible woman. Those poor children.

    • @ChristinaCrawfordLied
      @ChristinaCrawfordLied 2 роки тому +9

      Her daughter LIED!

    • @AuntKimmySez
      @AuntKimmySez Рік тому

      @NJKAUTO were you there?? Christina is a liar. Did you know, in one interview, she snickered & said that she has tons of wire hangers in her home? Really?? She was allegedly beaten with wire hangers, but was not traumatized enough not to ever want to have them around her again?? Her self-diagnosed "PTSD" would have made that impossible.

    • @j.d.youtube6557
      @j.d.youtube6557 Рік тому +2

      Christina’s book has been contested by more people, including those she named as witnesses, than confirmed. Even Christina herself contradicted her own by under a sworn deposition she provided when she contested her mothers will. And for 50 years Christina has been making money off her bizarre sad victim narrative. Several books on it and a movie. Oh please. She’s 83 year old and is still at it. It’s sad. I pity the woman but don’t believe her.

  • @cathy3613
    @cathy3613 2 роки тому +3

    I believe all evil she was